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Apr 3, 2017 8:35 AM

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I'm so thankful for Akatsuki. He's a little treasure :)

BLESS THIS ANIME! IDIOK DIED!!!! People shouldn't be led by idioks.

Oh and thank you Ride. For erasing that fat scum

Also, Yamagi's ponytail is hot.
InugirlzApr 3, 2017 8:40 AM
Apr 3, 2017 8:43 AM

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IOK IS DEAD THANK JESUS YAMATOE OUR ANIMA LORD AND SAVIOR!

I loved the ending so I bring it from a 7 to an 8. My Gaelio x Julietta ship is sailing smoothly, but Gaelio x Ein is still my OTP. <3

8/10
RolokoApr 3, 2017 8:49 AM
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD"
Apr 3, 2017 10:12 AM
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yuriski said:
While I respect that alot of people seem to like this season, there really isn't a way to not make me think of it as the biggest disappointment in Gundam history (yes, more then DESTINY).

Anyway, I was actually surprised Nadi survived and got a happy end. I was convinced he would die.
You know why Destiny wasn't a disappointment?

Because you can't disappoint when you don't have any expectations to live up to. :D
Apr 3, 2017 10:25 AM

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Monukai said:
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she didnt even kill mika, he died of bloodloss not even from her attacks.


Timestamps may be a bit different, but I went ahead and rewatched it just to be sure:

(Context: Mikazuki makes his last charge and stops right in front of Julietta)

11:54> Julietta: "He's already unconscious..."
12:15> Julietta stabs her lance through Barbatos, spraying blood everywhere
12:18> A large stream of blood gushes down Mikazuki's arm immediately after
12:43> Julietta presenting Barbatos head: "Here, under the authority of the Arianrhod Fleet commander, Rustal Elion, the devil has been *defeated*"

Even if you want to argue to me that he was already dead (which I disagree with), she literally just stated that he was unconscious, so yeah, she knowingly stabbed someone she thought to be unconscious.

inb4 I get screwed by differing subs
there was no blood splatter from julietta attack, she attacked his head unit as a show that the battle was over, she and gaelio were the only 2 antagonists that showed genuine sympathy and remorse over tekkadan. Mikazuki died from the dainslefs. Julietta was a masively innocent character cause unlike the members of tekkadan she had no where else to go, the reason tekkadan saw such a brutal end was cause orga and co. kept pursuing power even after they had already found their place by the start of this season, they gave into mcgillis' temptations and got involved in a fight they never would of gotten involved in then payed the price for it. Members of tekkadan could leave at any moment and in the case of takaki they did, Mika even laments in his final moments that they had already found the place they belong. Julietta was an orphan no one rescued by rustal however she never got her place to belong other than rustals gun and it wasnt until almost dying to mikazuki that she even found a reason to live for her own thanks to gaelio's mentoring. To add onto it she also didnt fight dirty even once and criticized iok when he did, payed respect to mikazuki in his final moments, and fought selflessly to protect her own.

Gaelio, takaki, julietta, and generally just about every survivor in the show barring rustal were the most morally upright characters in the show hence why they survived. None of them were evil save for some throwaway villains in S1 and jasley, but none of them were exactly the voice of who was right, this is one of the most morally gray gundams out there.
JizzyHitlerApr 3, 2017 10:34 AM

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Apr 3, 2017 11:07 AM

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mr_sam21 said:
Hate how Hush ,who had so much potential ,became a human wheelchair for Mika and died without doing shit.


If he made it out alive he would no longer be able to pilot a mobile suit but I see your point. If he did make it out the only way he would get in a suit would be to go and get revenge with ride which would have been a good opportunity.





Apr 3, 2017 11:10 AM

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I said to myself whoever kills Iok will be added to my favourites. Now I shall for the rest of my life watch iok get crushed on youtube again and again.

death of iok made this a 10/10

i would love to see a sequel where ride gets revenge on rustal.
Apr 3, 2017 11:49 AM

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Monukai said:
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that never happened, she went for the gundam's head, not for the cockpit

besides he was pretty much dead already


See below for some follow up observations I made, perhaps I'm wrong but I'm seeing things from a differing perspective (also if you see the first screenshot I post below, it shows her rather large lance piercing through Barbatos' upper chest into it's neck)

JizzyHitler said:
there was no blood splatter from julietta attack, she attacked his head unit as a show that the battle was over, she and gaelio were the only 2 antagonists that showed genuine sympathy and remorse over tekkadan. Mikazuki died from the dainslefs. Julietta was a masively innocent character cause unlike the members of tekkadan she had no where else to go, the reason tekkadan saw such a brutal end was cause orga and co. kept pursuing power even after they had already found their place by the start of this season, they gave into mcgillis' temptations and got involved in a fight they never would of gotten involved in then payed the price for it. Members of tekkadan could leave at any moment and in the case of takaki they did, Mika even laments in his final moments that they had already found the place they belong. Julietta was an orphan no one rescued by rustal however she never got her place to belong other than rustals gun and it wasnt until almost dying to mikazuki that she even found a reason to live for her own thanks to gaelio's mentoring. To add onto it she also didnt fight dirty even once and criticized iok when he did, payed respect to mikazuki in his final moments, and fought selflessly to protect her own.

Gaelio, takaki, julietta, and generally just about every survivor in the show barring rustal were the most morally upright characters in the show hence why they survived. None of them were evil save for some throwaway villains in S1 and jasley, but none of them were exactly the voice of who was right, this is one of the most morally gray gundams out there.


http://i.imgur.com/z1pDBtq.jpg

I'm genuinely asking here, does Barbatos have some kind of fluid that is supposed to look like blood? That certainly looks like blood to me so my assumption was that it was Mikazuki's blood, even though it was an awful lot from such a small guy. It doesn't seem to be anything else I can think of, it doesn't appear to be a spark or some other kind of effect, so unless it's some kind of fluid used by Barbatos that I don't know about (which is plausible, I guess), it seems to be blood.

I also uploaded the picture of his arm. In a one second difference it goes from: http://i.imgur.com/dbuBrew.jpg to http://i.imgur.com/L3r5AHR.jpg and the color of his blood is very similar in color to some of the splotches in the first screenshot I posted.
the barbatos and all the mechs in the show has oil which is what your seeing, the cockpit isnt anywhere near where her sword is hitting, its in the chest area below her sword, and you really think mika has anywhere near that much blood in his body especially given at this point hed already passed out from bloodloss cause remember the barbatos is as tall as some buildings. Even in the pictures your linking the oil and blood have different tones, the oil is blatantly brown while mika is in a dark red

besides all this is irrelevant to how innocent julietta is as a character, again unlike most of the cast she actually had no where to go nor fought dirty, thats the whole point im making, she fought fair to protect her own nor for any personal gain. Each member of tekkadan had an out and orga himself led them to their demise in the hopes of personal gain.
JizzyHitlerApr 3, 2017 11:57 AM

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Apr 3, 2017 12:21 PM
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JizzyHitler said:
Monukai said:


See below for some follow up observations I made, perhaps I'm wrong but I'm seeing things from a differing perspective (also if you see the first screenshot I post below, it shows her rather large lance piercing through Barbatos' upper chest into it's neck)



http://i.imgur.com/z1pDBtq.jpg

I'm genuinely asking here, does Barbatos have some kind of fluid that is supposed to look like blood? That certainly looks like blood to me so my assumption was that it was Mikazuki's blood, even though it was an awful lot from such a small guy. It doesn't seem to be anything else I can think of, it doesn't appear to be a spark or some other kind of effect, so unless it's some kind of fluid used by Barbatos that I don't know about (which is plausible, I guess), it seems to be blood.

I also uploaded the picture of his arm. In a one second difference it goes from: http://i.imgur.com/dbuBrew.jpg to http://i.imgur.com/L3r5AHR.jpg and the color of his blood is very similar in color to some of the splotches in the first screenshot I posted.
the barbatos and all the mechs in the show has oil which is what your seeing, the cockpit isnt anywhere near where her sword is hitting, its in the chest area below her sword, and you really think mika has anywhere near that much blood in his body especially given at this point hed already passed out from bloodloss cause remember the barbatos is as tall as some buildings. Even in the pictures your linking the oil and blood have different tones, the oil is blatantly brown while mika is in a dark red

besides all this is irrelevant to how innocent julietta is as a character, again unlike most of the cast she actually had no where to go nor fought dirty, thats the whole point im making, she fought fair to protect her own nor for any personal gain. Each member of tekkadan had an out and orga himself led them to their demise in the hopes of personal gain.

Guys are either too stupid to see the whole picture or, if they do, their values are that twisted that they go opposing the whole meaning behind the tragic-happy ending and simply go as far as labeling everyone as "good" or "bad" based on the fact that most perspective was given from the Tekkadan's side. But I am starting to feel even more and more that locals just want to be directors and scenarists, even with their cheap views on fantasy and lacking views on common reality.
Oh and list what you found "wrong" or questionable with the series, if any, if you would.
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Apr 3, 2017 1:49 PM
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Where`s Hush`s name in the Tekkadan`s grave? I don`t see it.

Sorry, my English is so bad xD .
Apr 3, 2017 2:11 PM

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SpadeAce said:
not sure if anyone mentioned this yet but i can honestly see a movie sequel to this occurring lol
akatsuki (mika's son) could become a pilot and his gundam would have mika's conscience like what happened with Galios gundam. also the villain could be some god like mobile armour since they weren't really explored imo

Gaileo's gundam had a special system using Ein's brain so what you said is impossible.
Apr 3, 2017 2:20 PM

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The dainsleifs are lazy and cheap. They shouldn't have ever been introduced.
It makes me question the importance of the gundams against the mobile armors. They could just spam dainsleifs all day and easily defeat the mobile armors.

I liked the finally over all, but the writing in the last few episodes is of questionable quality.
Apr 3, 2017 2:59 PM
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yuriski said:
While I respect that alot of people seem to like this season, there really isn't a way to not make me think of it as the biggest disappointment in Gundam history (yes, more then DESTINY).

Anyway, I was actually surprised Nadi survived and got a happy end. I was convinced he would die.


How is that possible? Destiny had Jesus Yamato survive a core reactor explosion point-blank solely bc the main writers had a hard-on for him, even going as far as to replace Shinn as protagonist. IBO has plenty of flaws, but labeling it as worse than Destiny just comes off as pointless bashing
Apr 3, 2017 3:03 PM
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The dainsleifs are lazy and cheap. They shouldn't have ever been introduced.
It makes me question the importance of the gundams against the mobile armors. They could just spam dainsleifs all day and easily defeat the mobile armors.

I liked the finally over all, but the writing in the last few episodes is of questionable quality.


Dainsleifs are pretty much a death sentence for large or unmoving targets. When Hashmal was uncovered, there were dozens of Dainsleif rods sticking out of the vicinity, so they were used to fight MAs... except, as Hashmal demonstrated, they likely never hit their targets due to them being so freaking agile
Apr 3, 2017 3:12 PM

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I'm not 100% happy with the ending, but I'm still satisfied. I think one of my biggest problems with this season is it was hard to care for McGillis' part of the story. There was just nothing interesting about it other than him vs Gaelio (mostly due to Gaelio himself) and his death. That was it for me.

Akihiro, Mikazuki, Orga, and Shino's deaths didn't surprise me at all, although the feelings were still there. Towards the end I just knew most of the original, older, members would die. Eugene did well to make it to the end to carry things through.

And adult Atra with baby Akatsuki ;^; So precious. The one thing I really wanted. Besides Iok dead.
Apr 3, 2017 3:18 PM

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rocket_chameleon said:
AnimeSoap said:
The dainsleifs are lazy and cheap. They shouldn't have ever been introduced.
It makes me question the importance of the gundams against the mobile armors. They could just spam dainsleifs all day and easily defeat the mobile armors.

I liked the finally over all, but the writing in the last few episodes is of questionable quality.


Dainsleifs are pretty much a death sentence for large or unmoving targets. When Hashmal was uncovered, there were dozens of Dainsleif rods sticking out of the vicinity, so they were used to fight MAs... except, as Hashmal demonstrated, they likely never hit their targets due to them being so freaking agile

They pretty much killed Mika and Akihiro. I at least expected Mika to dodge them though. If they can easily trivalize Gundams, I expect a similar result against MAs.
BS plot convenience weapon.
Apr 3, 2017 3:33 PM
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What a finale IBO anyways its so satisfying to see Iok to be crushed to death by Akihiro.
Overall a a good series for me.

Seeing this Barbatos-sama T^T.


He finally got crushed though in the end I didnt hated him as much, I hated Nobliss Gordon and I punched the table when he got killed "YES"!!!!

That pic T_T

While I do share some of the people opinions here, let me point that what many are hating isnt really badly wrote plot, I think the plot was fine and the ending sadly was realistic, but if fitted the series, Mika dying, Akihito... powerfull scenes, freaking Rustal turned how to be better than I thought, and I like to think that this whole Mcgills and Tekkandan uprising had impact on him, and left a mark on the world, an ideal to follow, IMO it paved the way to the peace that was achieved, so in the end their sacrificies were not meaningless.
I wanted a happier ending, were Orga lived and along with Mika realished their dreams, along with the rest of the crew, but just because I didnt have that, I m not going to hate it.
It was better for me than Season 1, the real flaws where the whole Atra suddently making babies with Mika when she is so young, and just like that, it was completly retarded (but they child was cute), also how S2 shittied on Kudelia, which was my favorite ship for Mika, thank god I realized this and killed the ship myself, but still they wasted her character on S2.
Iok was annoying 90% of the time, and MgGillis breakdown at the end was just not fitting (still that moment with Gaelio was great), and I still dont like that Rustol won, he didnt deserved it, but story is written by the winners, at least it was good to see Kudelia on her new position with Eugeneo and some more Tekkandan crew, also again Nobliss Gordon and Iok died!


And so I end my first Gundam series, it was a great ride, quite fitting for my first entry on the series.


RIP!

Apr 3, 2017 5:13 PM
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Cyborg_Dragon said:
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Hate how Hush ,who had so much potential ,became a human wheelchair for Mika and died without doing shit.


If he made it out alive he would no longer be able to pilot a mobile suit but I see your point. If he did make it out the only way he would get in a suit would be to go and get revenge with ride which would have been a good opportunity.

I don't think u understood anything from what I said. I meant that since the introduction of Hush's character , he had a lot of potential as a character and as a future great mobile suit pilot. Instead of that the only thing that was developed for his character was from an angry teen to a human wheelchair for Mika. He fought only weak Gjallarhorn soldiers and didn't contribute anything to do story. And the way he died was also stupid because he was handicapped with a suit which cannot fight. So I hope u now understand my point. It didn't matter whether he liver or died , the things he did before that mattered.
Apr 3, 2017 5:24 PM

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oh lame, gundam protagonist Mikazuki was killed...same with Akihiro but all others lived a happy life
at least Nobliss Gordon was assassinated by Ride. Good Thing.
I feel like that kid is a Mikazuki reincarnate.
4/5.
8/10.


Apr 3, 2017 5:50 PM
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zeroj said:
I really wanna cuss right now but I will keep my sanity deep down. Really hated this ending, how the main cast got their dreams and objectives busted down because at the end, they lost three of the main pillars of his family. Ride killing Gordon at the end wasn't satisfying, I would have preferred him to kill the son of a bitch Rustal Elion because he got away with everything he planned, being the freaking antagonist of the show.

Things were already going the way of the antagonists when Lafter died, and how mister idealist blonde got totally blocked by believing in something that only got himself and Tekkadan in an useless fight.

Julieta, what a joke of a character. How the hell is she not dead, why is only Iok dead? She gets to celebrate in front of a deceased Mikazuki and shove it up in the future with Gaelio, whom should be dead too. I cannot stand Julieta's existence. She should have freaking died when Mikazuki fought against her in space, but instead she survives and gets to kill Shino and THE MAIN CHARACTER? Jesus christ, I hate Okada so much right now.

I really expected another ending, but at the end, my expectations meet reality. Very frustrated, but at the same time the closure it gave to the series was related to the title. I have seen very few Gundam shows with the main Gundam being a melee robot, and I have to say that I have loved every fighting scene with Barbatos and his melee weapons. That and the soundtrack are my highlights of the show.

Second season wasn't all that interesting, but the deaths were something that kept me watching, alongside the whole politics side of the show. But that ending...

I can't just give a 7 to a show with this ending. And I am pretty sure Okada will get another Gundam show to write. Disgusting

6/10


Geez. Way to go overboard. I don't mind the score you give it and why, but to bash on Okada just because you didn't get your most preferred ending, various characters you liked have died, various characters you disliked have survived, and the antagonist won against the protagonists in a way (though in a way, they both won and lost, and both sides ultimately gained the peace and goals they've desired)....
Apr 3, 2017 7:17 PM

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Thank god Iok died in the most painful and slow death!!! But kinda mad that Rustal gets away... But if he died right now then the world balance might crumble so who knows.... So in the end Mika didnt survive... it is a bittersweat ending.. And c'mon lets face it this gundam series is one on the grey area where the villains and protagonist is not 100% evil or innocent.
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THIS IS JUST NOT RIGHT... THIS IS HOW IT REALLY ENDS HERE.

THEY LOST. HE WON.

I would gave that smug bastard Rustal elion a big FUCK YOU for this. He's an evil mastermind after all.

using dainsleifs from orbit against Mikazuki & Akihiro??? The utter disrespect. Like come one they constantly had a ridiculous numbers/equipment advantage, so atleast have the decency to kill the last 2 in a "fair" way.

Damn that smug bastard for fighting dirty even when having ridiculous advantage to being with.

Sigh if only Shino had gotten that one shot in...
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Apr 3, 2017 9:46 PM

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Yamagi is so fucking beautiful. He has the Ryusei-go eye logo on his back... Fuck. It hurts.

Also, I guess the voice actors for Yamagi and Shino went out for drinks for their characters.



Saito (Yamagi) and Murata (Shino) having their promised drinks

Source: https://twitter.com/matsukazest/status/845593588494811139

So either Chad is dating Yamagi or has a one-sided crush on him.

Either way, I guess I’m happy for them but I think it would’ve made more sense for it to be Eugene.



There was tons of scenes of Eugene and Yamagi and they were both close to Shino.

Chad just kind of seems to be a random cast of the die.

Anyway, I’m just going to believe that Shino is still alive somewhere out there and that his body was recovered before the explosion and he’ll show up someday to swoop Yamagi off his feet.





Man, seeing Mika and Akihiro, the two biggest badasses in the anime finally go down tore me up inside. At least Iok died but in the end, that didn't seem like enough.

Ride is now a FUCKING BADASS. I'm glad he got revenge for Orga but at the same time, it makes me really sad because Orga wanted a world where he didn't have to fight anymore but now that's all he knows. It'd be awesome to have another season with him as the main character. ALSO, HE'S WEARING ORGA'S OLD BANDANNA AROUND HIS NECK.

Seeing everyone all grown up just had me crying buckets of tears.

I am beyond pissed that Rustal is painted as the "good guy" and that everything Tekkadan did seems pointless now because everything would have turned out all right in the end if they had just stayed out of it. That's probably the one thing that rubs me the wrong way with this end.

I love this anime so much and it really does feel like I lost my family. RIP, Tekkadan. Thank you for everything. 'Don't you ever stop!'
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Well I have just read something interesting about Mika's death from a facebook post.

"Mika's death is probably based off the Viking at Stamford Bridge. One lone warrior, guarding a pass and buying time for his comrades to flee, and doing pretty well till he got unglamorously taken down by a sneak spear attack. Considering the strong Nordic/Viking themes of the show (dainsleif, Vidar, Gjallerjorn, Teiwarz etc), it's quite fitting an end."
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/stamfordbridge.html


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JizzyHitler said:
Monukai said:


Timestamps may be a bit different, but I went ahead and rewatched it just to be sure:

(Context: Mikazuki makes his last charge and stops right in front of Julietta)

11:54> Julietta: "He's already unconscious..."
12:15> Julietta stabs her lance through Barbatos, spraying blood everywhere
12:18> A large stream of blood gushes down Mikazuki's arm immediately after
12:43> Julietta presenting Barbatos head: "Here, under the authority of the Arianrhod Fleet commander, Rustal Elion, the devil has been *defeated*"

Even if you want to argue to me that he was already dead (which I disagree with), she literally just stated that he was unconscious, so yeah, she knowingly stabbed someone she thought to be unconscious.

inb4 I get screwed by differing subs
there was no blood splatter from julietta attack, she attacked his head unit as a show that the battle was over, she and gaelio were the only 2 antagonists that showed genuine sympathy and remorse over tekkadan. Mikazuki died from the dainslefs. Julietta was a masively innocent character cause unlike the members of tekkadan she had no where else to go, the reason tekkadan saw such a brutal end was cause orga and co. kept pursuing power even after they had already found their place by the start of this season, they gave into mcgillis' temptations and got involved in a fight they never would of gotten involved in then payed the price for it. Members of tekkadan could leave at any moment and in the case of takaki they did, Mika even laments in his final moments that they had already found the place they belong. Julietta was an orphan no one rescued by rustal however she never got her place to belong other than rustals gun and it wasnt until almost dying to mikazuki that she even found a reason to live for her own thanks to gaelio's mentoring. To add onto it she also didnt fight dirty even once and criticized iok when he did, payed respect to mikazuki in his final moments, and fought selflessly to protect her own.

Gaelio, takaki, julietta, and generally just about every survivor in the show barring rustal were the most morally upright characters in the show hence why they survived. None of them were evil save for some throwaway villains in S1 and jasley, but none of them were exactly the voice of who was right, this is one of the most morally gray gundams out there.


You are either stretching it too far or you haven't noticed the lengthy monologue about Tekkatan's place being on the battlefield as the show's ending.
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JizzyHitler said:
Monukai said:


Timestamps may be a bit different, but I went ahead and rewatched it just to be sure:

(Context: Mikazuki makes his last charge and stops right in front of Julietta)

11:54> Julietta: "He's already unconscious..."
12:15> Julietta stabs her lance through Barbatos, spraying blood everywhere
12:18> A large stream of blood gushes down Mikazuki's arm immediately after
12:43> Julietta presenting Barbatos head: "Here, under the authority of the Arianrhod Fleet commander, Rustal Elion, the devil has been *defeated*"

Even if you want to argue to me that he was already dead (which I disagree with), she literally just stated that he was unconscious, so yeah, she knowingly stabbed someone she thought to be unconscious.

inb4 I get screwed by differing subs
there was no blood splatter from julietta attack, she attacked his head unit as a show that the battle was over, she and gaelio were the only 2 antagonists that showed genuine sympathy and remorse over tekkadan. Mikazuki died from the dainslefs. Julietta was a masively innocent character cause unlike the members of tekkadan she had no where else to go, the reason tekkadan saw such a brutal end was cause orga and co. kept pursuing power even after they had already found their place by the start of this season, they gave into mcgillis' temptations and got involved in a fight they never would of gotten involved in then payed the price for it. Members of tekkadan could leave at any moment and in the case of takaki they did, Mika even laments in his final moments that they had already found the place they belong. Julietta was an orphan no one rescued by rustal however she never got her place to belong other than rustals gun and it wasnt until almost dying to mikazuki that she even found a reason to live for her own thanks to gaelio's mentoring. To add onto it she also didnt fight dirty even once and criticized iok when he did, payed respect to mikazuki in his final moments, and fought selflessly to protect her own.

Gaelio, takaki, julietta, and generally just about every survivor in the show barring rustal were the most morally upright characters in the show hence why they survived. None of them were evil save for some throwaway villains in S1 and jasley, but none of them were exactly the voice of who was right, this is one of the most morally gray gundams out there.

While you are correct in regards to them finding their place, you are missing the point for why they wished for more power. The reason they pursued power was to change how things are handled on mars in regards to "human debris".
I shall know no fear as I am fear incarnated
Apr 4, 2017 6:43 AM

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I really like the ending and how the writers had the balls to kill off characters. Iok died which was great, and Atra is truly best girl like I thought. The only thing that bothered me was Julietta, who was just a mindless puppet of Rustal with no thoughts of her own but she gets all the glory in the end for barely winning against an armless Barbatos. From what I can see, Rustal will still cause more corruption with her leading the way so if we could have a S3 with Ride as the main character that would be great.
Apr 4, 2017 8:20 AM
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the full story of ibo had a realy nice scenario "a nice drama action serie " but i was realy deceived with this last episode ... at first i hated that kid (ride) but in the last episode i think he was the one who impressed me the most with a nice killing intent ...ps they also forgot to show mcgillis's little wife's future ...
Apr 4, 2017 8:44 AM

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Iok getting crushed to death feels so satisfying. However, I feel like a sadistic asshole for enjoying it. It doesn't make me feel proud of myself for having these feelings for some useless fictional character that annoyed me. It's strange how Carta is just as ridiculous as Iok but I wasn't satisfied with her death. I actually felt bad. The problem with Iok is that no one cared about him. No one did. People hated him for screwing over turbines and overall being an annoying Nat.
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Apr 4, 2017 9:04 AM
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Dangerr said:
Fabienne said:
Well when Rustal and Julietta are decent persons, this anime did a truly bad job at portraying their characters and showing us their view on things clearly enough.

I like this show because it's not beating you over the head with the morality of what's going on. The show isn't excusing Rustal for all of the shady shit he's done - he's pragmatic with his power and politics, and will ultimately go with the flow. McGillis, ironically, achieved the goal of his coup in death by exposing the corrupt hereditary-based rule of Gjallarhorn. I do think Julieta is a decent person, though.

This show deals in shades of grey, and stuck to having a very grey ending. There's good and bad on both sides in almost equal measure. The only truly evil prick was Gordon Nobliss, and he got his deserts in the end. That being said, yes, Rustal himself is not what I would consider a Good Guy. He's a typical powerful politician.

Well said, well said.
Apr 4, 2017 10:13 AM

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I'm glad Sunrise didn't chicken out and went through with this ending which made the most sense ~ whether that's to our liking or not, it's better given the direction the story took. Mika & Akihiro's deaths were damn good, fighting like beasts 'till the end and Akihiro in particular doing what no1 else could do : piece Iok's plot armor, and take him out in style too.

The world will become a better place in the end huh...yea I guess, for a while at least, something will always go wrong, and some people will always get the short end of the stick. The other big satisfying point of the ep for me besides Akirio & Mika going out with style and Iok's death were Ride taking out Nobliss Gordon, w/e his name was, that had Orga assassinated. I wouldn't mind seeing another series in this universe with Ride as one of the main characters.

As for the things I regret most, it's the loss of people like Orga & Naze. Naze really did a lot of good things for people that needed it the most and people like him ain't all that common. Orga made a lot of bad decisions sure, but with Naze alive, he'd learn. The other thing is Akihiro & Lafter not only didn't hook up, but bought the dust. At least Akihiro got a good death, while Lafter just got assassinated ~ but the show didn't suffer for it,and kept a realistic tone, props to that.

9/10
Apr 4, 2017 2:23 PM

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7/10 because Iok and Nobliss Gordon finally got REKT!
Would've rated hit higher if Rustal Elion paid in some way for killing off Tekkadan. Signing the Human Debris Act doesn't make up for it.
Apr 4, 2017 2:55 PM

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I swear, I was considering rating this a 1/10 if Iok made it out alive. But anyway I've got to say that the writers must have been trying hard to justify Julietta fighting Barbatos and making it out alive. Overall I really liked the ending. I love how Ride was able to get some revenge. Overall I'd say it was an 8/10. It ended in a way I figured it would but it was still really fun to watch. I can see myself rewatching this season soon.
Apr 4, 2017 3:02 PM

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call me an M or whatever but this is the ideal ending for someone like me.. Salute to Ride! he is the real MVP for killing that old man.. though Rustal wins in the end, Julieta ugly as fuck! and we found out kudelia never have Mika's child (cause i thought she admits that she loved him and somehow mika is okay having a child with another girl, and atra seems okay too).. but... thats not happen well i'm fine with it..
10/10
Apr 4, 2017 4:04 PM
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Terrible "realistic" ending. I watch muh anime for "teh realism" right guys? Literally only redeemable character left was Ride, everyone else are either traitors or insane (*ahem* being in love with a dead man). Season 2 was a mistake.
Apr 5, 2017 9:04 AM
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An episode that words can't describe! Great isn't enough to explain anything

The satisfying moment of iok's death. damn that was awesome.
kind of hating julietta, but when i see gaelioxjulietta, i might reconsider that.
ride slowly become a gundam meister under the guidance of setsuna f. seiei.
akatsuki looks adorable and atra looks beautiful through the time skip.
i'm hoping that mika is alive but it seems impossible, but the 3 wristband akatsuki wore gives me a little hope, but maybe not. i don't know.

the ending is not that satisfying tho. i demand the death of rustal immediately.

9/10 for this final episode.
Apr 5, 2017 12:30 PM

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loved first run 10/10 - 8/10 for this. this season felt stretched out with repeated themes from the first season, entire episodes devoid of action and spans where the major characters are completely ignored - this alone may have dramatically effected the impact of character deaths, that should have really hit home, but instead just didn't. 8/10 is generous, but i really did like the few high points of this season - and i did like this last episode. i thought it was respectful
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Disappointed Ending...

But... IOK and NOBLISS GORDON YEEESSSS F**K Y** DIE DIE DIEEEE !!!! GO TO HELL !!!


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Apr 6, 2017 2:23 AM
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A strong controversial end. I didn't like how Rustal motive was hidden till last few minutes, not enough to just flip a villain into a 'hero'. Using evil methods as questionable as McGillis, but latter at least explains his beliefs & backstory.
Epic last man standing fights. Akihiro squeezing pliers on Iok awesome. Sad he gone too, wanted him happier after Lafter...
Ride takes out Gordon, yay finally. Like to see Ride's assassin future. Rare realistic end that emphasize not everything is done deal, various goals live on, as Orga says never stop walking forward.
Merribit family. Atra & Kudelia mature look both gorgeous. lol Akatsuki, at least good end to a few new families.
Gaelio x Julieta kinda cute. I don't hate em, they had empathy for em kids, & realized S2 is all about diversity: of motives, shades, morality & 'shadiness'.
Mika expected, more desuflags than Orga. But just wanted to believe, that redhead engineer repaired Barbatos cut, that maybe Mika's became a bot like Eins.
Overall had some meaningful dialogue, gar fights & very depressing plot.
Apr 6, 2017 4:02 AM
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A strong controversial end. I didn't like how Rustal motive was hidden till last few minutes, not enough to just flip a villain into a 'hero'. Using evil methods as questionable as McGillis, but latter at least explains his beliefs & backstory.
Epic last man standing fights. Akihiro squeezing pliers on Iok awesome. Sad he gone too, wanted him happier after Lafter...
Ride takes out Gordon, yay finally. Like to see Ride's assassin future. Rare realistic end that emphasize not everything is done deal, various goals live on, as Orga says never stop walking forward.
Merribit family. Atra & Kudelia mature look both gorgeous. lol Akatsuki, at least good end to a few new families.
Gaelio x Julieta kinda cute. I don't hate em, they had empathy for em kids, & realized S2 is all about diversity: of motives, shades, morality & 'shadiness'.
Mika expected, more desuflags than Orga. But just wanted to believe, that redhead engineer repaired Barbatos cut, that maybe Mika's became a bot like Eins.
Overall had some meaningful dialogue, gar fights & very depressing plot.

The repaired Gundam was Kimaris, and they put it where Bael was slumbering before, making Kimaris-Ein new legend of the Gjallarhorn. Though it could go on as a speculation, I believe the Ein is still inside the frame.
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Daniel_Naumov said:
gophercg said:
A strong controversial end. I didn't like how Rustal motive was hidden till last few minutes, not enough to just flip a villain into a 'hero'. Using evil methods as questionable as McGillis, but latter at least explains his beliefs & backstory.
Epic last man standing fights. Akihiro squeezing pliers on Iok awesome. Sad he gone too, wanted him happier after Lafter...
Ride takes out Gordon, yay finally. Like to see Ride's assassin future. Rare realistic end that emphasize not everything is done deal, various goals live on, as Orga says never stop walking forward.
Merribit family. Atra & Kudelia mature look both gorgeous. lol Akatsuki, at least good end to a few new families.
Gaelio x Julieta kinda cute. I don't hate em, they had empathy for em kids, & realized S2 is all about diversity: of motives, shades, morality & 'shadiness'.
Mika expected, more desuflags than Orga. But just wanted to believe, that redhead engineer repaired Barbatos cut, that maybe Mika's became a bot like Eins.
Overall had some meaningful dialogue, gar fights & very depressing plot.

The repaired Gundam was Kimaris, and they put it where Bael was slumbering before, making Kimaris-Ein new legend of the Gjallarhorn. Though it could go on as a speculation, I believe the Ein is still inside the frame.

Ic now it's Bael, their torsos have similar shape. Barbatos has 3 gold vent flaps, Bael 2. Also Bael's shoulder red decal same as on an older Barbatos model. And (gjalla)horn decal still there. There's no kimaris in that room tho.
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I really enjoyed the ending, if i had not looked at the staff probably i would have thought that the director was Tomino.
Classic bittersweet ending for a Gundam show, i expected something like this after the death of Biscuit.

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Daniel_Naumov said:

The repaired Gundam was Kimaris, and they put it where Bael was slumbering before, making Kimaris-Ein new legend of the Gjallarhorn. Though it could go on as a speculation, I believe the Ein is still inside the frame.

Ic now it's Bael, their torsos have similar shape. Barbatos has 3 gold vent flaps, Bael 2. Also Bael's shoulder red decal same as on an older Barbatos model. And (gjalla)horn decal still there. There's no kimaris in that room tho.
Yeah forgive my wishful thinking, I spent an hour looking over details and I confirm the Bael is back to it's resting place.
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Apr 6, 2017 8:48 AM
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All and all it was a good run. My favorite moment is when Ride shoot the bastard, Nobliss Gordon. I never liked that guy
Apr 6, 2017 10:57 AM
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All and all it was a good run. My favorite moment is when Ride shoot the bastard, Nobliss Gordon. I never liked that guy

You would be a social outcast if you did.
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We got the good ending

Apparently the director wanted to kill every single person associated with Tekkadan (including kudelia and atra) because he though they were all evil horrible people and should be punished for killing people throughout the series hahaha

Okada said hell no and they decided on this ending

Which ending would you guys have preferred?

I'm happy Okada said no to that ending. Imagine the shit storm that would have produced.
Apr 6, 2017 6:03 PM
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As i thought.. this is pretty bad for my 1st gundam series, even tough im 90's kids XD
Apr 6, 2017 6:19 PM

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I enjoyed the ending, Mikazuki at the end was so badass and even though I am disappointed that he died throughout the whole series Mikazuki always said he only new how to fight, his death was inevitable.
Apr 6, 2017 7:25 PM

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Final eps managed to make this possibly worst most retarded anime I've ever had the displeasure of completing. What an infuriating waste of time. 1/10. Appalling is the only description it deserves. Its like it suddenly had a new writer or they're bipolar..
Apr 6, 2017 8:34 PM

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The main cast was great but I can't say the same for the supporting cast
There were great moments but I can't say the same for the series as a whole

One thing they nailed was the style of IBO. It was consistent throughout the series.
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That was really bad, I can accept the fact that the corrupt guys wins at the end, but they had to portrait as if everything was fine, with all survivors having happy endings, who cares. Since the episode in which McGillis and the tekkadan lost in the big space battle this series went to sh*t. I wouldn't have minded if everyone died fighting, but not, they were convinced that they would find their place by running, throwing away all the little development and the ambitions they had as a group.

Overall the first season was way better, the mecha animation was amazing, but the 2 main characters were badly written, finally, the ending of the series just taught us that, if you are corrupt you will win in life.

6/10
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