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| And with the five episodes left this is pretty damn obviously gonna go into anime original finale(hopefully because not only the last arc is a mess its nigh impossible to do in five episodes without making it into even BIGGER mess). Still waiting for dat Velvet and for Berseria to be relevant. Kind of hoping now Zestiria ends its limp-along with announcement of Berseria adaptation. I would watch the hell out of that. |
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| To be fair, I found this change to be more interesting than the game story, despite being more contrived and Rose not as fleshed out. At least I get something different for once. If I liked the game story more I would probably hate this direction but to be honest, the game's story progression and plot resolution wasn't that great. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| Alisha was cold as ice even after her father got killed/butchered in front of her LOL. Actually, I see A LOT of lapses from the scene director on how to properly cook up a drama/action intense scene. Even the suicide of the fat dude looked so damn bland. The dragon scene is okay though. Funny that I didn't even see a single civilian getting rekt or running due to panic etc. EMPTY CITY. What's happening with ufotable though? I'm getting disappointed with the adaptation this time. Season 1 was way better than this Season 2. |
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| I don't know if i forgot/missed something or mb it was rushed, but the first half felt so stupid and random. Well putting aside that they just ran straight to the king yelling not to kill and Maltran saying that it's right, Alisha sees her father "enveloped" in malevolence and i assume the reason is because he betrayed/went against her (still don't know the reason, but simple guess that he is old and got easily deceived). And then Bartlow jumped for some/no reason ... And don't think that the purification part was that cool, and if 1st season was mb decent then this one is just complete dissapointment. |
allenjkeFeb 27, 2017 5:37 AM
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| Just a random observation: This Dragon appears to be the same Dragon from Episode 0 --- the one that killed the little girl and Alisha's comrades! |
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| Ohh boii there is a chance to purify Eizen ! In the first moment when Sorey said it is dragon in tornado I just stand in front of my TV screaming because i thought it was First Mate but ... i was wrong. Besides that ost was really good and my overall grade raise up to 6/10 because there is so much hints to Eizen history. |
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Kamiyan3991 said: Honestly, I'm surprised it took people this long to realize that the current Ufotable is a "pretty" mediocre studio. They arguably haven't produced anything that's worthwhile after Fate/Zero and KnK and the last KnK movie came out 4 years ago. If it weren't for Type Moon and Aniplex, I wouldn't be surprised that nobody would even care about them.arganthos said: i dont get all this hate for the game. i havent played previous installments of the tales series, and compared to berseria its "bad", but i dont dislike tales of zestiria. i'm disappointed that they made it possible to purify dragons :/ still, good episode There was nothing wrong with the game. Actually, it has better battle system than Berseria (way more challenging). But, overall, Berseria is far better due to story, characters etc. Basically, Ufoshit could fix some flaws in this adaptation... Contrary to our hopes, they just made it shit. Welp, it also proves that Ufoshit is all about animation. They don't have good directors etc. And that's probably the reason why Type-Moon chose another studio for Grand Order. Sure, they can give us some flashy battles and colorful environmental shots here and there but when it comes to the important things such as the pacing, dialogue, direction and execution, it's a real mess. As someone who was thoroughly unimpressed with Zestiria the game, this still somehow manages to be laughably worse, not to mention that it's also boring. |
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| I thought Bartlow would turn to be a Hellion. Yet he didn't put up much of a fight The King sacrifice seem pretty lame as well |
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| 2nd season has been garbage its like they decided to drop all the good parts of Zesteria and make it generic as shit. Purifying the dragon was the last straw dropped |
Fayt89Feb 27, 2017 9:03 PM
| Man I feel sad...I was loving the adaptation in the first season and even defending the second season for the slow pacing and trying to give some inner struggles to Rose. Tbh, my disappointment started to grow after Rose's mini arc conclusion. I wasn't ok with how it ended. They set up the whole stage for the "to kill, or not to kill" dilemma and them left it unsolved. Sorey said "killing is wrong" and just with that Rose became super existencial, she didn't even argued or asked him to explain his ideals, all because of "muh shepherd powers". This episode whoever had big execution problems. Oh, her father dies protecting her? *shouts "father" two times then imediatelly gets over it like nothing ever happened* *Evil political guy trying to protect the king don't even bat an eye to his own accidental doing* Oh, evil guy is going to kill himself? *No hesitation, no madman speech, no crazy expressions, no crazy laughter, no music, no sound effects, no slow motion, no "anything that gives scenes like this the impact they must have" Many thing in this episode happened in such a awkward manner. About the dragon business: It didn't had enough build up and both the time and place for it to accur were inappropriate for such a accomplishment . Sorey reasoning for believing he could do it came out of nowhere too. Also, not enough struggle to purify the dragon. I would be perfectly fine if Sorey almost died in the process as it would've made things feel like a more urgent matter and the success way more satisfying. |
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Fayt89 said: 2nd season has been garbage its like they decided to drop all the good parts of Zesteria and make it generic as shit. Purifying the dragon was the last straw dropped Its funny because for a lot of people those parts and pretty much entirety of the endgame was the biggest negative point of Zestiria. The endgame was just a senseless trainwreck. If this leads to some different outcome than I am all for it. |
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Fai said: coz they didn't do any kind of effort to even try to think about purifying dragon, it's just too sudden and thoughtless.. actually this applies to every single sidequest or sub-plot (maltran, lunarre, symonne). they just say 'fuck you' and kill them all. if anime sorey is pacifist purist, in game sorey is vigilante mass murderer.Fayt89 said: 2nd season has been garbage its like they decided to drop all the good parts of Zesteria and make it generic as shit. Purifying the dragon was the last straw dropped Its funny because for a lot of people those parts and pretty much entirety of the endgame was the biggest negative point of Zestiria. The endgame was just a senseless trainwreck. If this leads to some different outcome than I am all for it. i dont care if this anime is just pure fanservice, but I hope eizen get purified |
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deVacto said: WTF are you doing ufosht this is not zestiria anymore, or with "the X" mean on the title its like other timeline for zestiria? give me your reason im really putting high expectation for this adaptaion but not like this Its in an essence a "remake" of Zestiria's plot. In some interviews this was called "true" Zestiria plot. The X in title is cross, which stands for "cross over". Hence connections to Berseria and Berseria flashbacks. |
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| I haven't played Zestiria, so i don't know how good or bad its story was, but i really dread when this mess of an anime is called an "improvement". This episode's story content was absolute crap. Is it just me or are you guys setting the par really low? |
astroprogs said: game plot is all over the place and a giant pile of huge messI haven't played Zestiria, so i don't know how good or bad its story was, but i really dread when this mess of an anime is called an "improvement". This episode's story content was absolute crap. Is it just me or are you guys setting the par really low? anime plot is nonexistent, they basically remove any kind of plot here, every single on of them so, yeah it's an improvement |
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astroprogs said: I haven't played Zestiria, so i don't know how good or bad its story was, but i really dread when this mess of an anime is called an "improvement". This episode's story content was absolute crap. Is it just me or are you guys setting the par really low? The source is way worse and nigh incomprehensible. There's lots of pointless padding, plotlines that go nowhere, character decisions that make no sense, Rose being mary sue, plot that contradicts itself, etc. Not to mention majority of characters literally having zero development or personality(ex: Sorey is the cookie cutter hero who loooooves adventures, Rose is edgy thief who just happens to be important and good at literally everything, Alisha is that random princess character who disappears one third into the game, etc). It literally feels thrown together at last possible minute(Which makes sense considering game's troubled development and the game devs feud with Alisha's VA which led to Rose) and only leaves you with "what the hell even was this?" kind of impression after completing it. And to make matters worse it was marred by stupid gameplay decisions and bugs. The anime simply skipped a bunch of filler plotlined, altered how some events go and altered some things that made no goddamn sense in the game. While at the same time adding Berseria stuff here and there, as well as toning down Rose and adding actual Alisha content. With this episode and with what they did with the dragon this is set to go to a completely different direction from games ending storyline too because No matter how much you polish a piece of coal you won't turn it into gold. Zestiria is most hated tales title for a reason. It never would have been good. And with the production staff handling their non-existent cinematography the way they do the visual medium is not going to elevate that. Even with all of that in mind its still somewhat better than the game. The only purpose zestiria anime has overall tbh is hopefully to lead to announcement of Berseria adaptation. Hopefully with better production staff. |
AhenshihaelFeb 28, 2017 7:37 AM
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| I don't get why so many of you find Alisha's detached reaction to her father's death so strange. Royal families, especially very large ones, tend to have colder relationships the farther you are in the successor line. Alisha is almost insignificant, in the Royal Family, she's extremely far in the line and probably has never spent more than a few hours with her father in all her life. She surely respected him because of his role, but I really doubt she has ever established a real bond with him. That's why his death wasn't really a huge shock to her. |
RomoresFeb 28, 2017 1:12 PM
| Alisha and her father weren't close at all. They mustn't have seen each other in years. You don't say "you're starting to look like your mother" to someone you've seen recently. Alisha's reactions could have been done better. She moves on pretty quickly though. Her comrades died in Episode 0 and a whole town got destroyed. Episode 1, she was already "exploring" that ruin nearby. She had more visual expression when that random "grape" kid died than when her friends (knights) died to the tornado. |
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| What the hell was that ? They purified a Dragon ? WTF! :| Ok .Good fight , good focus on alisha . So We Will see eizen get purify ?! O_o A Different ending we will see ha ! for a gamer its a disappointment But i think we have to wait. maybe it worth it that they change the story line. |
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| @Stark700 I am not sure whether you know this by now but .. The Anime uses the games OSTs which are already released .. That Dragon Purication OST is called Rising up .. Go check it out.. Though my Fav. will always be Zaveids OST from previous episode .. The full version was AMAZING.. (Perhaps due to the games Nostalgia) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCkaq1GsK_s |
astroprogs said: I haven't played Zestiria, so i don't know how good or bad its story was, but i really dread when this mess of an anime is called an "improvement". This episode's story content was absolute crap. Is it just me or are you guys setting the par really low? I think Season 1 was somehow an improvement on the story side and alisha's character, but S2 messed up characterization, dragged out stuff, didn't improve anything, and just disregarded big plot points (trials, identity of heldalf, etc...) |
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| And now Alisha's operation in the capital begins. It was cool how they managed to ford the river and then scale the wall without being detected. Seems Lord Bartlow's men are too busy scouring the area outside of the capital to notice the obvious threat. Too bad that the guards in the capital were more observant than you give them credit for though. Still Alisha's knowledge of the hidden routes in the capital sure are useful. But man the enemy even predicting that she would take this route. I just hope that Alisha's men isn't killed to the last and that she can hold out until Sorey gets here. Ian is sure one hell of an archer though and she and Ian make a good team. These two are Alisha's best soldiers. Its nice to see Alisha fight so well though. So it seems that Bartlow had anticipated that Alisha would try to infiltrate the capital eh. He's both evil and cunning eh. Using Alisha's mentor as bait though how evil of Bartlow though. Seeing the fox demon try to profit out of this arc seems strange but then again he feasts off negative feelings so he's bound to be around for something like this. Meanwhile the tornado of malevolence gets ever closer to the capital city with Sorey and co pursuing it. Things look like its coming to the head in the capital then. Its nice that even under these conditions Maltran can still remain so calm. As expected of a veteran knight and Alisha's mentor. To always act rationally and purpose eh. Alisha sure must be hurting to be not be able to save her mentor without facing other knights though but its nice that she remembers her mentors words. Its funny watching Bartlow realize that he's been outwitted by the person that he always had no respect for though. Every human being would have feelings that they want to suppress which in turn is the cause of the malevolence. But to think that a person can have that many within them though. Thats quite scary really as even one of them can create a hellion. So the more Malevolence there is the more shapes it can take the form as eh. Dragons seems to be pretty popular at the moment. Its nice to see how much Sorey actually has changed and matured over the series though. Even Lailah seems to think so. So Alisha used a two pronged assault on the palace eh. Smart thinking actually. Alisha's relationship with her father seems to be a rather distant one on his part i think. Though it looks like he's at least making an attempt to get to know her daughter better now that he's at that age. Its sad that Alisha and her farther never did get the chance to reconcile though. Damm you Bartlow. Though feeling a lot of grief at that point its nice to see Alisha not fall for Bartlow's bait and try to attack him though. Doing so would only make it like she was the one responsible. Even till the end Bartlow still believes that he was right. But its surprising that Alisha had planned this by allowing the knights to bear witness to what had happened and hear with their own ears just what Bartlow actually is. Its over Bartlow even your followers have seen what you really are now. To think that he will take his own life though but then again i never expected him to just surrender really. And now the tornado has reached the city. Now that everyone is here i guess the grand battle with the tornado can begin. Man thats a lot of malevolence though. The sky's literally swarming with them. Though numbers won't help when you're fighting seraphs though. As ever the combat scenes are amazing as always. While purifying a dead dragon is one thing but purifying a live one will be very different. I hope that Sorey is able to do though. But its nice to see that all the seraphs have faith in him though having seen his growth. The insert song that played during the battle was actually really appropriate for it. The purification of the dragon though was really something. Rose's determination is really something though despite the amount of pain that she has to ensure. But now with both of Sorey's squires here things should come to an end soon. Its nice watching everyone work together to purify this dragon and protect the capital though especially Rose and Alisha who actually were enemies at first when they met. And at last they are successful but man that was a hard fight. Sorey really is a most impressive and powerful Shepard though. Its nice to see that Sorey remembers his promise to Edna about his brother though. With this victory purifying her brother is possible now. And now the main threat appears. An excellent episode as always and a great end to Alisha's story arc. The fight against the dragon and its purification was pretty well done. I actually found Alisha's story arc to be quite interesting as Barlow was a pretty good villain and we also got to see a little of Alisha's father as well. Within the source material that the anime is loosely based on Alisha isn't given much of a role which i always found to be rather silly as she's such a great character and a important one as well. The anime changed this and it was nice to see Alisha given more of a major role. Its nice that in the end Alisha managed to stop Barlow and restore order to the kingdom though too late in saving her father. Its also important to note that any anime would have to have sub plots that go alongside the main plot in order to stay interesting and Alisha's arc was certainly that as it enabled us to see just how far her character was developed. She's braver than she was in the 1st season and is more motivated and determined to protect her country and its people. Her skill with the spear has also increased. |
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Kamiyan3991 said: arganthos said: And that's probably the reason why Type-Moon chose another studio for Grand Order.i dont get all this hate for the game. i havent played previous installments of the tales series, and compared to berseria its "bad", but i dont dislike tales of zestiria. i'm disappointed that they made it possible to purify dragons :/ still, good episode You sure about that? |
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astroprogs said: I haven't played Zestiria, so i don't know how good or bad its story was, but i really dread when this mess of an anime is called an "improvement". This episode's story content was absolute crap. Is it just me or are you guys setting the par really low? It's seen as an "improvement" by who hated the game, so I recommend watching walkthroughs of the game if you feel like you have any interest at all and form your own opinion. There are some areas the anime does better than the game, but the same holds true for the opposite. To me, the anime is more like supplemental material rather than a true adaptation. Fai said: No matter how much you polish a piece of coal you won't turn it into gold. Zestiria is most hated tales title for a reason. It never would have been good. And with the production staff handling their non-existent cinematography the way they do the visual medium is not going to elevate that. Even with all of that in mind its still somewhat better than the game. I love how you take your hatred for the game and act like it's the universal truth. Zestiria is not only not the "most" hated Tales title (Tempest and Symphonia 2 say hi), but it did have potential. How much is subjective, of course, but it's pretty obvious you have massive hate boner for the game that literally nothing would have made you like it. |
| first of all, i love tales of zestiria and i actually havent watch tales of berseria.. but in the second season, well it actually a good eps!! XDD but kinda hope for more in the purification act to be more.. berserk? naah and for those who say bad things about this anime just.. limit the words that you guys use... its not like you can make something better since some of you maybe just spectators and dont even understand how to make movie or such |
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GangsterCat said: pretty good episode, can't wait for sorey to bring back our first mate!!!!! they better ask eizen his past story so we can get ToB anime for real We already know his past in Berseria. |
KiraYoshikage said: and we already know Zestiria story in ZestiriaGangsterCat said: pretty good episode, can't wait for sorey to bring back our first mate!!!!! they better ask eizen his past story so we can get ToB anime for real We already know his past in Berseria. |
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| Cool well done episode! Sorey purified the dragon with the help of Rosa & Alisha! But it seems like the despair is just starting, that girl from S1 ep 1... 5/5. |
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| How did they get the soldiers to listen in the first place is what I'm wondering. Kind of crappy that he got away with killing himself. My only concern at this point is how they're going to fit Beseria into this plus beating the final boss in only 4 episodes. It just can't be done. I've enjoyed watching this for the past few months, I'd hate to see it end cheaply. |
| That animation O.O, Ufotable is still the best to create stunning animations. The purification scene with the OST was EPIC. I really need to download all these OSTs. I hope Alisha will talk a little more about her father because even if she is strong and aware of the danger, she must be sad. |
| Return of the greats episodes!!! Alisha go to "visit" the King, and finally find the truth (bad, very bad plot), but the best was Sorey, with the help of everyone of his friends purifies a dragon!!!! |
| Fantastic episode! Really looking forward to see what's next. |
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| I'm willing to accept that they made it possible for Sorey to purify a dragon here. In the Tales combat system it was physically impossible for him to do it because he never had 2 Squires with him at the same time to help purify it (it was always Sorey and 1 other human at most), so he never found the way. Although I'm wondering where the Seraph that the purified dragon should have turned back into went... Always love it when Sorey armatizes with Luzrov Rulay~ That was my favorite one in the game, both in style and combat. And typical Symonne dropping in there at the end to spoil the good mood The entire Regicide scene was well done. The king being full of Malevolence was a surprise though. Was that the force that was slowly killing him? Would be good symbolism: the Malevolence of his city and citizens literally choking out the life of the head of the kingdom. |
| I was hoping Baltrow would've died in a way that befitted his horrible nature. |
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| They defeat dragon. |
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| This episode was fucking stupid. The king's death was completely unnecessary and how does purifying the dragon change it from day to night (unless the night was just caused by the clouds and no one was questioning it). |
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| Rip the king. The dragon was purified nice! |
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| R.I.P Alisha's father. The purification scene was really cool. Well done, Sorey, Rose, and Alisha! Nice cliffhanger. The Lord of Calamity is up to no good. |
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| They really went overboard with making Sorey a Gary Stu in this. For anyone unaware, [Spoilers for the Game] He literally just said, Impossible? No, it's just that no one's ever tried hard enough and instantly succeeded. There was no build-up for that. We only have Lailah tell him he has gotten so much wiser for no reason. Which he hasn't in this btw., he is literally the same he was a few episodes ago, aside from the PLOT POWER-UP. How long has he even been a shepherd at this point? A few weeks at best I'd say. And he is already better than all the shepherds of the last millennium, which makes them look like incompetent idiots. The first half of the episode was pretty alright, although it was highly convenient that Alishia had to trip when opposed by an old man, when we have seen her perform super-human feats before. And for her group to likely somehow convince his soldiers to watch the fight. They don't seem like the kind that would take hostages, so I guess they wanted to see by their own choice? |
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