Monogatari Series: First Season
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| Background art is a total garbage here. It looks like very old video game from the beginning of (real) 3D shooter era. It was hard to watch in some scenes. But in the other hand, character animation was great. That fight scene at stadium was just epic. Anyway, nice prologue to the whole Monogatari series. 8/10 for this part. 2nd was the best for me. And here, I need to commend the Shaft. They made a perfect decision with not adopting Kizumono as first series. Seeing it AFTER all previous events makes this series a lot more 'complete'. Ps, Loli Shinobu > Older Shinobu all the way. But it doesn't change the fact that Hanekawa > all. |
rsc-plJul 18, 2017 3:36 AM
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
DarknessSerpent said: Been my favorite arc in the series since I readed it.This actually might be my favorite arc in the monogatari series. There is just no match, it is the origin, the foundation of their bound, the most unique and amazing thing in the monogatari series, and godammit Shaft... you did a hell of a job here! I wasnt expection an adaptation that match the LN, but this did indeed stand toe to toe with it. The problem with reading something, and then seeing an adaptation, is that in most cases what you imagine while reading, beats hands down what you end up seeing. But that was not the case here, Shaft gave our wildest imaginations LIFE!! The respect and care here put, worth 4 years of waiting! 9.8/10, the third time I gave such a score to an anime, an movie, that was just not worthy of less! In fact I have been saving my 10 for the 3rd movie, and it more than deserves it. I could go on rambling, but I already did long ago, instead I m just going to share this awesome pic:  And I hope to find myself some more art for these movies. Shinobu FOR LIFE! |
PlaycoolJul 17, 2017 5:28 PM
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| This was a great watch. The part with Arararagi trying to feel up on Hanekawa was great. The fight between him and Kissshot felt a bit too comical but was still pretty enjoyable. Several animated bits looked pretty low quality, not unique, just low quality. A bit disappointed they didn't show off the beginning of Bakemonogatari when Senjougahara falling or something at the end, in movie quality, that would have been a nice send off point. |
PaulJul 17, 2017 6:19 PM
rsc-pl said: Background art is a total garbage here. It looks like very old video game from the beginning of (real) 3D shooter era. Maybe it's just me but it looked the same as the other films. rsc-pl said: Ps, Loli Shinobu > Old Shinobu all the way. Shinobu's Kizu design is sooo great indeed. Playcool said: I could go on rambling, but I already did long ago, instead I m just going to share this awesome pic: Lowkey wanna know if that's an official pic or fan made. Looks really good. Paul said: This was a great watch. The part with Arararagi trying to feel up on Hanekawa was great. Completely agree. If only his thoughts during that moment were actually real lol. |
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| this is honestly one of the best anime movies Ive ever seen... And its the first anime i've given a 10/10 since steins gate |
| That whole gym scene is why i fucking love Araragi. |
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| So this is the story all about how Araragi's life got flipped, turned upside down, and I'd like to take a moment, just sit right there, and tell you all about he became the pseudo-human of Bel-Air somewhere in Japan. "CatSoul, please delete your account." Okay, okay, I'll talk about the movie instead of shitposting. That was pretty great. Visually, it was nothing short of a masterpiece. Just the difference in shading/lighting and the little bit of extra budget Shaft likely had for a full-length movie made this an absolute treat for the eyes. I really wish I could've seen this in a theater, but I'm really glad I watched it in 1080p on my grandmother's large Mac screen instead of on a 720 kbps Plex stream at home. My expression during the scene where Araragi's head regenerates while sucking the life out of Kiss-shot was basically the same as Hanekawa's. My god, that was visually one of the greatest, most disturbing things I've ever seen. How did Japan hand wave this with a PG-12 rating? Not only do we get slow-motion decapitations and buckets of gore, this was erotic as hell. The scene where Araragi forces Hanekawa to moan about how much she wants her breasts fondled seemed to have been deliberately set up like hentai, just to tease/depress me about the fact that Shaft will never do a full-blown hentai. Not to mention the fact that Hanekawa then proceeded to tell Araragi after he chickened out that he could've gone further. Poor guy. Araragi's heroic flaw of being too damn selfless was explored here, and for the first time we saw him decide to do something he wanted. Making Shinobu live is pretty selfish, yet at the same time I'm proud of him for doing it. I've been on a break from Monogatari, but after watching this I definitely want to watch the rest of what I haven't seen yet. Reminded me of how good the series can get. |
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Deknijff said: more or less as boring as the first two movies for me but now that've gotten the whole picture of the Trilogy Ive decided to lower the score of the first two from 5s to 4s so that all of them have the same score You shouldn't have watched these movies first. |
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Kittens-kun said: I didn't watch them first though Deknijff said: You shouldn't have watched these movies first.more or less as boring as the first two movies for me but now that've gotten the whole picture of the Trilogy Ive decided to lower the score of the first two from 5s to 4s so that all of them have the same score at the time before the third movie I had watched 9 episodes of Bake years ago and dropped it but watched episodes 10-15 a few weeks after the second movie I should of watched these movies before Bake though in retrospect |
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Deknijff said: Kittens-kun said: I didn't watch them first though You shouldn't have watched these movies first. at the time before the third movie I had watched 9 episodes of Bake years ago and dropped it but watched episodes 10-15 a few weeks after the second movie I should of watched these movies before Bake though in retrospect No, you should have watched the movies AFTER everything else in the series. |
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Kittens-kun said: but that wouldn't have been in chronological order so I couldn't have done thatDeknijff said: No, you should have watched the movies AFTER everything else in the series.I didn't watch them first though at the time before the third movie I had watched 9 episodes of Bake years ago and dropped it but watched episodes 10-15 a few weeks after the second movie I should of watched these movies before Bake though in retrospect |
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Deknijff said: Kittens-kun said: but that wouldn't have been in chronological order so I couldn't have done thatNo, you should have watched the movies AFTER everything else in the series. That's not the way you're supposed to watch it though. They adapted the series in the order they did for a reason. Broadcast order is the correct way to watch it. |
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Kittens-kun said: yeah I don't really give a fuck how they intended it as doing it like that feels stupid to me honestlyDeknijff said: That's not the way you're supposed to watch it though. They adapted the series in the order they did for a reason. Broadcast order is the correct way to watch it.but that wouldn't have been in chronological order so I couldn't have done that I prefer to do things in a chronological way |
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Deknijff said: Kittens-kun said: yeah I don't really give a fuck how they intended it as doing it like that feels stupid to me honestlyThat's not the way you're supposed to watch it though. They adapted the series in the order they did for a reason. Broadcast order is the correct way to watch it. I prefer to do things in a chronological way Just saying you probably would have gotten more out of the movies if you had watched them last. Plus, why do you think it's stupid? Any reasoning besides "chronological always"? |
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Kittens-kun said: I don't really think I would of gotten anything from doing so Deknijff said: Just saying you probably would have gotten more out of the movies if you had watched them last. Plus, why do you think it's stupid? Any reasoning besides "chronological always"?yeah I don't really give a fuck how they intended it as doing it like that feels stupid to me honestly I prefer to do things in a chronological way hmmm hard to say why stupid other than that. But I'm not a fan of such things as its feel that I'm being with held information which I don't like honestly. Im a person who prefers to know everything that has transpired before hand |
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CatSoul said: So this is the story all about how Araragi's life got flipped, turned upside down, and I'd like to take a moment, just sit right there, and tell you all about he became the pseudo-human of Bel-Air somewhere in Japan. "CatSoul, please delete your account." Okay, okay, I'll talk about the movie instead of shitposting. That was pretty great. Visually, it was nothing short of a masterpiece. Just the difference in shading/lighting and the little bit of extra budget Shaft likely had for a full-length movie made this an absolute treat for the eyes. I really wish I could've seen this in a theater, but I'm really glad I watched it in 1080p on my grandmother's large Mac screen instead of on a 720 kbps Plex stream at home. My expression during the scene where Araragi's head regenerates while sucking the life out of Kiss-shot was basically the same as Hanekawa's. My god, that was visually one of the greatest, most disturbing things I've ever seen. How did Japan hand wave this with a PG-12 rating? Not only do we get slow-motion decapitations and buckets of gore, this was erotic as hell. The scene where Araragi forces Hanekawa to moan about how much she wants her breasts fondled seemed to have been deliberately set up like hentai, just to tease/depress me about the fact that Shaft will never do a full-blown hentai. Not to mention the fact that Hanekawa then proceeded to tell Araragi after he chickened out that he could've gone further. Poor guy. Araragi's heroic flaw of being too damn selfless was explored here, and for the first time we saw him decide to do something he wanted. Making Shinobu live is pretty selfish, yet at the same time I'm proud of him for doing it. I've been on a break from Monogatari, but after watching this I definitely want to watch the rest of what I haven't seen yet. Reminded me of how good the series can get. I was soo angry they didnt show her nipples in that breast fondle scene lol. And yeah Kizumonogatari has cemented its place in my top 5 most visually stunning animes next to the likes of REDLINE and Garden of words |
Deknijff said: Kittens-kun said: yeah I don't really give a fuck how they intended it as doing it like that feels stupid to me honestlyThat's not the way you're supposed to watch it though. They adapted the series in the order they did for a reason. Broadcast order is the correct way to watch it. I prefer to do things in a chronological way Im with you on wanting to watch it in chrono. I'm actually waiting for all the series to drop before I start watching..So far all ive seen is the KIZU trilogy and Bakemonogatari.... I dont mind waiting a couple years to marathon it all |
| So we got 4 forms for Kiss-shot plus one final with Shinobu. Her adult apparence is totally stunning. Can understand Araragi was shocked when he saw her way of eating. But he decide to kill her a little too quickly. Well his choice at the end was really cruel and selfish in my opinion. The part with Hanekawa was quite exciting and hilarious. Was expecting him to not do anything in the end since he was pushing his luck too much. In conclusion a great trilogy who did a excellent job to introduce the universe and the relation between the characters. Now must rewatch Nekomonogatari so i remember why he didn't choose her. |
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| R.I.P. Guillotinecutter, I felt the same way as Araragi as soon as I watched that scene... As always, the conversations between characters in the MONOGATARI shows are deep as heck that makes me enjoy the media more! I like the progression/character development of Shinobu/ Kiss-shot Acerola-orion Heart-under-blade (she enjoyed her short time that she spent with Araragi and was perfectly illustrated in that roof scene in contrast to the despair she had because she wanted to die for Araragi is what makes this so relatable because we see emotion that are rarely conveyed in anime)now that you put the pieces together especially after she grows into her own after Bakemonogatari. Kiss-shot and all her forms delish! Now to wait for Owarimonogatari part II On a side note: Can’t forget... Hanekawa she was delish too! |
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| just finnished watching, so this is how they end up together. in this whole situation, I have a new vision of Hanekawa. she maybe 2nd best girl, after Kiss-Shot. but she also the one who cause all the condition for Araragi. but the good thing about that is, because Araragi is too dumb to find a solution, and Hanekawa comes with a good one. what I still want to know is, how Kiss shot got cut 4 limbs in the same time when she met armored guy? there's no one in there, it could be illusion she sees. and how she comes to ate Guillotine-Cutter. |
| finally get to watch the conclusion of kizu was really great to see was a really good movie now its off to the owari s2 woop woop |
OpTicPyramid said: Nope, there wouldn't be any more movie for the moment. You can check the rest of the series if you liked them, though.Anybody know if there will be a 4th movie? Really one of the best Anime I have ever seen I hope it continues. |
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Deknijff said: so you watch something out of the intention of the director than wonder why u didnt like it lmfao. wonderful Kittens-kun said: I don't really think I would of gotten anything from doing so Just saying you probably would have gotten more out of the movies if you had watched them last. Plus, why do you think it's stupid? Any reasoning besides "chronological always"? hmmm hard to say why stupid other than that. But I'm not a fan of such things as its feel that I'm being with held information which I don't like honestly. Im a person who prefers to know everything that has transpired before hand |
moodie said: wait what do you mean by I wonder exactly?Deknijff said: so you watch something out of the intention of the director then wonder why u didn't like it lmfao. wonderful I don't really think I would of gotten anything from doing so hmmm hard to say why stupid other than that. But I'm not a fan of such things as its feel that I'm being with held information which I don't like honestly. Im a person who prefers to know everything that has transpired before hand |
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Deknijff said: i too read books out of order to follow chronology moodie said: wait what do you mean by I wonder exactly?so you watch something out of the intention of the director then wonder why u didn't like it lmfao. wonderful |
| What about Maaya-san? What a goddess she's been in this movie, picked up few scenes of the movies just to re-hear Shinobu rage at Hanekawa. Outplay or not, i only remember Kiss-shot's scenes, she completely outshines everyone here, it's her arc after all. xD Also, 500 yrs Shinobu > loli shinobu. So classy, so noble, such radiating beauty <3 |
flo7Jul 23, 2017 2:35 PM
| My only issue is Araragi's internal monologue; or rather, the lack thereof in the first two movies. It's like the director realized halfway through "shit, this isn't working, gotta have narration". Read the book ahead of the movies, love this trilogy. Equipment shed scene turned out to be way funnier when animated :) |
| That was pretty fun. Loved the dialogues as expected especially between Kiss-shot and Araragi. My favorite moments was during the fight scene in the latter half of the movie as it felt really violent but also unique in the sense that both characters were struggling from the inside. Overall, definitely a memorable trilogy. |
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| So I've been letting this simmer for a while, I've seen it a few times and just finished watching them all together, and I can't help but be disappointed, with Reiketsu specifically. I just feel that part 3 was the weakest of the bunch in almost every way. This one had worse cinematography, soundtrack, animation, just worse direction overall than the other two. It's really bugging me for reasons that should be obvious, but I also wanted to rate it all as one thing, and I thought it was gonna be a 10 based on how great the first two were but right now it's wavering to a 9. A 9 is still fantastic, but I was expecting a masterpiece from Oishi, and there are just too many small annoyances (in all the movies, not just this one) for me to call it that. |
YouniverSoul said: Deknijff said: yeah I don't really give a fuck how they intended it as doing it like that feels stupid to me honestly I prefer to do things in a chronological way Im with you on wanting to watch it in chrono. I'm actually waiting for all the series to drop before I start watching..So far all ive seen is the KIZU trilogy and Bakemonogatari.... I dont mind waiting a couple years to marathon it all You can already start watching it, the order is: Kizumonogatari -> Nekomonogatari (kuro) -> bakemonogatari -> nisemonogatari -> second season -> owarimonogatari S1 -> tsukimonogatari -> koyomimonogatari -> owarimonogatari S2 (to be released next month) -> zokuowarimonogatari (tba) -> hanamonogatari But i really recommend watching it in airing order (best way to enjoy the series) and then rewatching it in chronological order. PD: here is a picture to better understand the chronological order http://imgur.com/ClB3pwg (might contain spoilers) |
GoldNautilus said: So I've been letting this simmer for a while, I've seen it a few times and just finished watching them all together, and I can't help but be disappointed, with Reiketsu specifically. I just feel that part 3 was the weakest of the bunch in almost every way. This one had worse cinematography, soundtrack, animation, just worse direction overall than the other two. It's really bugging me for reasons that should be obvious, but I also wanted to rate it all as one thing, and I thought it was gonna be a 10 based on how great the first two were but right now it's wavering to a 9. A 9 is still fantastic, but I was expecting a masterpiece from Oishi, and there are just too many small annoyances (in all the movies, not just this one) for me to call it that. what didn't you like about the visuals?? the final fight was jaw-dropping |
DeathSquad said: YouniverSoul said: Im with you on wanting to watch it in chrono. I'm actually waiting for all the series to drop before I start watching..So far all ive seen is the KIZU trilogy and Bakemonogatari.... I dont mind waiting a couple years to marathon it all You can already start watching it, the order is: Kizumonogatari -> Nekomonogatari (kuro) -> bakemonogatari -> nisemonogatari -> second season -> owarimonogatari S1 -> tsukimonogatari -> koyomimonogatari -> owarimonogatari S2 (to be released next month) -> zokuowarimonogatari (tba) -> hanamonogatari But i really recommend watching it in airing order (best way to enjoy the series) and then rewatching it in chronological order. PD: here is a picture to better understand the chronological order http://imgur.com/ClB3pwg (might contain spoilers) thanks!! didnt know almost all the seasons have already aired |
YouniverSoul said: GoldNautilus said: So I've been letting this simmer for a while, I've seen it a few times and just finished watching them all together, and I can't help but be disappointed, with Reiketsu specifically. I just feel that part 3 was the weakest of the bunch in almost every way. This one had worse cinematography, soundtrack, animation, just worse direction overall than the other two. It's really bugging me for reasons that should be obvious, but I also wanted to rate it all as one thing, and I thought it was gonna be a 10 based on how great the first two were but right now it's wavering to a 9. A 9 is still fantastic, but I was expecting a masterpiece from Oishi, and there are just too many small annoyances (in all the movies, not just this one) for me to call it that. what didn't you like about the visuals?? the final fight was jaw-dropping Well, I'm sure people will disagree with me, but I think that some of that Kou Yoshinari cut in a final battle (the fiery one where the style changes abruptly) feels really off. Like the movements look really stiff and janky at points, which is totally jarring in a film series that has had such beautifully detailed action and character animation. And I love Kou's mind-blowing cuts in Tekketsu. And it isn't even like I think the whole sequence is bad at all. Like I said, it's about the difference between a 9 and a 10, and a lot of small annoyances can pile up and become harder to ignore. I could make a detailed list of stuff but I would have to watch it again and take notes, and I'm not gonna go through all that for a MAL post. And I'm not gonna bother to tell y'all about that fucking cg head. |
GoldNautilus said: YouniverSoul said: what didn't you like about the visuals?? the final fight was jaw-dropping Well, I'm sure people will disagree with me, but I think that some of that Kou Yoshinari cut in a final battle (the fiery one where the style changes abruptly) feels really off. Like the movements look really stiff and janky at points, which is totally jarring in a film series that has had such beautifully detailed action and character animation. And I love Kou's mind-blowing cuts in Tekketsu. And it isn't even like I think the whole sequence is bad at all. Like I said, it's about the difference between a 9 and a 10, and a lot of small annoyances can pile up and become harder to ignore. I could make a detailed list of stuff but I would have to watch it again and take notes, and I'm not gonna go through all that for a MAL post. And I'm not gonna bother to tell y'all about that fucking cg head. lol because im a verrry observant guy, I did notice some iffy CGI(loved the cgi head tho!) once or twice but the rest of the visual presentation was soo good that it made it up for me. While there were a few small visual hiccups in part 3, I feel like it had higher "highs" in the visual department than the other 2 movies. I absolutely LOVED the unorthodox fire scene and I think it was intentionally done....But overall I can understand why ppl wouldn't like it...I'm a sucker for that type of creativity haha. Overall, I respect yours and anyone else's opinion..I just had to give part 3 a 10/10...crazy visuals plus an emotional closure to a well told story arc. I don't give out 10s easily either lol..this is the first show since Steins Gate that gave me feelings on this lvl! |
YouniverSoulJul 26, 2017 1:51 AM
| I really enjoyed it but I thought that scene in the middle with Hanekawa was toothbrush scene level of ridiculous and unnecessary. Maybe it was my own fault for not being in the mood for a giant thunderwank at the time of watching |
| Definitely the best of the three films and the only one that honestly reached my expectations for Kizu after all the years of waiting. Only thing I can really say I disliked was Araragi's boob fondling fantasy which drag on and on,when it was so obvious he wouldn't do a thing. 8/10. |
VanishingKiraJul 26, 2017 7:28 AM
YouniverSoul said: GoldNautilus said: Well, I'm sure people will disagree with me, but I think that some of that Kou Yoshinari cut in a final battle (the fiery one where the style changes abruptly) feels really off. Like the movements look really stiff and janky at points, which is totally jarring in a film series that has had such beautifully detailed action and character animation. And I love Kou's mind-blowing cuts in Tekketsu. And it isn't even like I think the whole sequence is bad at all. Like I said, it's about the difference between a 9 and a 10, and a lot of small annoyances can pile up and become harder to ignore. I could make a detailed list of stuff but I would have to watch it again and take notes, and I'm not gonna go through all that for a MAL post. And I'm not gonna bother to tell y'all about that fucking cg head. lol because im a verrry observant guy, I did notice some iffy CGI(loved the cgi head tho!) once or twice but the rest of the visual presentation was soo good that it made it up for me. While there were a few small visual hiccups in part 3, I feel like it had higher "highs" in the visual department than the other 2 movies. I absolutely LOVED the unorthodox fire scene and I think it was intentionally done....But overall I can understand why ppl wouldn't like it...I'm a sucker for that type of creativity haha. Overall, I respect yours and anyone else's opinion..I just had to give part 3 a 10/10...crazy visuals plus an emotional closure to a well told story arc. I don't give out 10s easily either lol..this is the first show since Steins Gate that gave me feelings on this lvl! I just don't understand the cg head, they animated way more complex and brutal shit than that... and it goes to 2d again in the same scene! But no, it definitely was intentional, my issue is with the execution of it. Agree to disagree I suppose. And idk, I think Tekketsu is gorgeous, and the most consistently good looking and well directed, with Nekketsu not far behind. Maybe I just need to sit on it for a while... |
| I'm pretty disappointed. The movie was not as what I expected it to be. I feel like I'm on the minority here but the animation was... not really good? Idk, just my opinion. Still a good watch tho. 7/10 Araragi x Hanekawa ftw |
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| That was absolutely marvelous. By far the best movie trilogy ever. I hope this wins every Oscar. |
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D-ohnuts said: That was absolutely marvelous. By far the best movie trilogy ever. I hope this wins every Oscar. I agree. I haven't seen the movies yet but I agree with you. ;) |
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Raito_Lawliet said: Ive heard you can do that on the DVD but my english teacher wouldn't activate that function when we watched the movie in class sadly Deknijff said: I guess that when you watch Memento you start at the end of the movie and play it backwards?yeah I don't really give a fuck how they intended it as doing it like that feels stupid to me honestly I prefer to do things in a chronological way |
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| these movies were the first thing i watched in the monotagari series and while i liked the first two i just can help but really dislike this one. there were so many logical flaws i didnt care for anything in the end. the fucking gym scene was just painfull to watch and when this stupid pussy mc didnt even fondled her fucking boobs i almost threw my headset away. then pussy mc didnt even kill vampire lady and makes his own loli pet i mean for real? and wtf were these random over dramatic light effects i just dont get it. in the end this makes absolutely no sense to me and i will stay away from any monotagari stuff i guess |
bigpoppaJul 27, 2017 6:04 PM
| Good lord that long ass fanservice scene just got to me. Had to immediately fap after the movie. I lost all control. Solid movie tho. 8/10 |
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| This was my last monogatari I will ever watch, because I am tired of these characters as they are not interesting and their storyline's. But to comment on the movie it was better than other monogatari series, the fight between Kisshot & Araragi was brutal and bizarre a kind that I loved. The reveal in the end that she wanted to die in order to turn Araragi into human again was not that impressive for me. |
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