| Ehh, not happy about the staff, but since the VN is so good, even if they f*ck up, it'll still be good (unless they change up the writing). |
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| I'm just waiting for the episode count. Trailer looks fine, glad they got the same VAs and music. I personally don't mind if the deviate from the VN like in Little Busters!, which somehow was able to top Clannad as my favourite drama/Key show. The script writers are weird choices, even if they consulted the original creators. Expectations are moderate currently until I hear the episode count, which I hope is Clannad or Little Busters! length. |
TheLittleRedHero said: Also one question. Are people really THAT Pessimistic about the anime? Sure it's understandable that people have worries, like for example they want the episode count and the amount of content to add, however I think based off of the interviews that we got from different forums (if the VN readers followed the interviews from Rewrite anime for Kazamatsuri and MAL) I would think there's a higher expectation, but me personally I still keep myself low on it. Also, having the designs and art and animation quite decent or production being low gives more liberty about the moments in the anime, Common Route in the anime as far as I'm concerned was done well with the animation, it helps a lot. Besides Romeo Tanaka would be in charge of stuff in the works, helping the staff with the anime, so maybe, just maybe, the chances of the anime being at least decent or technically good would be a bit high. It's because people are still bent about what happened to Grisaia (I would be too though, don't get me wrong). However Rewrite's adaptation has a lot more resources for it's adaptation than Grisaia's did. As for my expectations? Cautious optimism. Also, we only saw stuff from the first couple episodes most likely. I'm sure the more intense/serious scenes will be handled with more care as far as the art/animation goes. Of course the comical scenes will be less pretty. It was also stated that Romeo was the one who wrote all the original content; so it's better that it's him rather than some random guy we don't know about. A Key adaptation has never had the writers working this closely in the production. As I said before, I'm anxiously excited for what they're going to do as far as new content in the plot. |
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| I like the trailer, except for the colors and the moe style of it... I was expecting something more along the 2nd Opening.... oh well I still have my expectation low. Also VN reader how do you think the comedy will fare with those people? I don't tend to look at who is making the anime so I have no idea how the comedy will look like. |
sanata50lbsb said: It's because people are still bent about what happened to Grisaia (I would be too though, don't get me wrong). However Rewrite's adaptation has a lot more resources for it's adaptation than Grisaia's did. As for my expectations? Cautious optimism. Grisaia is only half of the problem for me. The other half is that there is no conceivable way to make the vastly different routes work together in Rewrite without basically an entirely new route. But that's the issue, there is no reason to start making new scenarios if they are gonna adapt just 1 route (Akane or Lucia's would be best Imao). Then why are they saying there will be some kind of original scenario? Most likely reason is that they want to combine elements of the routes. This has a far higher chance of making the anime worse if we have learned anything about anime adaptations. While everything I said could turn out to not be the case, it is still VERY worrying that they said that. The history of VN adaptations has been to cram the routes together, and with Rewrite, even doing that a bit is a disaster. Its completely reasonable to be concerned. |
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| If it's 3 cours it will be above average. Otherwise it will be garbage. It's simply too much to fit into 1 or even 2 cours. It will have to follow the same formula as Clannad in the cours , and also omnibus like Amagami (I highly doubt a single route will be any good). |
Zyzyoro said: With that said, I've read the VN and I'm going to enjoy it regardless of what happens. I wish I could say the same thing, but some of my favorite VN of all time are Grisaia, Umineko, Tsukihime, and Majikoi so I just have no hope left. |
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| THEY'RE MOVING! At long last we get to see some animation and it looks okay so far, some scenes look a little low budget though. Overall pretty good. Looks like we'll get some good animation too, despite the color quality. |
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Xenocrisi said: No way in hell would Key make 'em destroy this VN lol. It's one of their best VNs.LOOOOL. THIS ANIME IS DEAD. The director directed Grisaia no Rakuen too, so there's still hope. |
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Tyrel said: Xenocrisi said: No way in hell would Key make 'em destroy this VN lol. It's one of their best VNs.LOOOOL. THIS ANIME IS DEAD. The director directed Grisaia no Rakuen too, so there's still hope. Exactly.. No one wants to think logically here except for a select few |
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| Why do the good VN adaptations have to go to the studios that can't do them right? It's Little Busters all over again. |
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| Ah geez 8bit huh,well all i can say as a newcomer to Rewrite it might turn out decent? if we can the quality of Both second seasons like LB and Grisaia however it goes the path of the first seasons it's all over lol. nonetheless i'll do what i did with those two and read along the VN while it's airing |
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| Well, even if it's a trainwreck like Charlotte, it will still be fun. Cause reading all them Charlotte episode discussions and slowly watching everyone's hopes die out was a fun a watching a well done anime. =3 |
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TheLittleRedHero said: Hoppy said: Why do the good VN adaptations have to go to the studios that can't do them right? It's Little Busters all over again. I thought Little Busters was adapted properly tbh. Finally someone who shares my minority opinion |
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| [sarcasm] Yeah,we all know 8bit is great at changing stuff to fit the screen time when adapting VNs right?right? [flashback]Michiru touches poop[/flashback] [flashback]piss,piss and more piss[/flashback] [flashback]Yumiko fakes death[/flashback] [flashback]Fireworks and even more piss action[/flashback] yup...It will be great...Especially for Rewrite which needs HEAVY changes to adapt into anime format...I expect a Comet Lucifer quality...[/sarcasm] And do not even try to defend 8bit telling me about Grisaia no Rakuen being a good anime...Grisaia no Rakuen was NOT an anime adaptation,8bit simply animated the already existing storyboard without any changes |
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Xenocrisi said: LOOOOL. THIS ANIME IS DEAD. The director directed Grisaia no Rakuen too, so there's still hope. Go read Meikyuu and Rakuen and you'll understand why both of those are good adapations whereas Kajitsu got totally butchered. I'm not gonna say anything but whether how bad this will go will have to depend on the original scenario they worked else it's doomed to fail from the start cos of the nature of how the routes are written. |
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LoneWizard said: [sarcasm] And do not even try to defend 8bit telling me about Grisaia no Rakuen being a good anime...Grisaia no Rakuen was NOT an anime adaptation,8bit simply animated the already existing storyboard without any changes Lol please. Grisaia no Rakuen was absolutely perfect, and the adaptation was almost perfect too (or at least, I've heard so). "It's not an anime adaptation" LOL. If it's not an anime adaptation what is it? A manga? |
Xenocrisi said: bruh,when i said Rakuen was bad?I simply said 8bit was not the reason Rakuen turn out to be good,Rakuen was already easiest thing to turn into an anime...it was not an adaptation,they didnt "adapt" anything:LoneWizard said: [sarcasm] And do not even try to defend 8bit telling me about Grisaia no Rakuen being a good anime...Grisaia no Rakuen was NOT an anime adaptation,8bit simply animated the already existing storyboard without any changes Lol please. Grisaia no Rakuen was absolutely perfect, and the adaptation was almost perfect too (or at least, I've heard so). "It's not an anime adaptation" LOL. If it's not an anime adaptation what is it? A manga? adapt-dictionary-definition said: verb (used with object) to make suitable to requirements or conditions; adjust or modify fittingly: The VN was already short enough so they only animated it without much difference... 8bit is not bad at making anime,8bit is not bad with their artstyle,8bit is not bad at animation...They fail when it comes to "adjusting and modifying fittingly".8bit is bad at "adapting/adjusting/changing/writing", every scene/anime written by 8bit sucks hard,few examples?_? : -Comet Lucifer -Grisaia no Kajitsu episodes 4-10 -IS 2 -and probably many other stuff but i either didnt watch them or dont remember now... |
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LoneWizard said: Xenocrisi said: bruh,when i said Rakuen was bad?I simply said 8bit was not the reason Rakuen turn out to be good,Rakuen was already easiest thing to turn into an anime...it was not an adaptation,they didnt "adapt" anything:Lol please. Grisaia no Rakuen was absolutely perfect, and the adaptation was almost perfect too (or at least, I've heard so). "It's not an anime adaptation" LOL. If it's not an anime adaptation what is it? A manga? adapt-dictionary-definition said: verb (used with object) to make suitable to requirements or conditions; adjust or modify fittingly: The VN was already short enough so they only animated it without much difference... 8bit is not bad at making anime,8bit is not bad with their artstyle,8bit is not bad at animation...They fail when it comes to "adjusting and modifying fittingly".8bit is bad at "adapting/adjusting/changing/writing", every scene/anime written by 8bit sucks hard,few examples?_? : -Comet Lucifer -Grisaia no Kajitsu episodes 4-10 -IS 2 -and probably many other stuff but i either didnt watch them or dont remember now... well I agree but the scriptwriters that are working on Rewrite haven't worked with 8-Bit before (except Tatsuya Takahashi who wrote the script for Grisaia no Meikyuu and Grisaia no Rakuen, he is also an experienced VN writer) |
zaydgh123 said: I still have no reason to trust 8bit for this,especially since everyone who played Rewrite says Rewrite is one of the hardest VNs to work as an anime...Inb4:1 cour adaptation...well I agree but the scriptwriters that are working on Rewrite haven't worked with 8-Bit before (except Tatsuya Takahashi who wrote the script for Grisaia no Meikyuu and Grisaia no Rakuen, he is also an experienced VN writer) |
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LoneWizard said: It's hard, but far from as hard as some make it out to be, they can go down the same path as Higurashi with an omnibus format and it would be easy to do it. Hell some of the "original scenario" might actually be connected to an omnibus format in a way.zaydgh123 said: I still have no reason to trust 8bit for this,especially since everyone who played Rewrite says Rewrite is one of the hardest VNs to work as an anime...Inb4:1 cour adaptation...well I agree but the scriptwriters that are working on Rewrite haven't worked with 8-Bit before (except Tatsuya Takahashi who wrote the script for Grisaia no Meikyuu and Grisaia no Rakuen, he is also an experienced VN writer) |
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Thai777 said: I like the trailer, except for the colors and the moe style of it... I was expecting something more along the 2nd Opening.... oh well I still have my expectation low. Also VN reader how do you think the comedy will fare with those people? I don't tend to look at who is making the anime so I have no idea how the comedy will look like. I was also expecting something more along 2nd OP, that is why I wanted WhiteFox for this... LoneWizard said: I still have no reason to trust 8bit for this,especially since everyone who played Rewrite says Rewrite is one of the hardest VNs to work as an anime...Inb4:1 cour adaptation... Each route differents ALOT from the others, like characters that were alive in one route, maybe dead in another, that sorta of stuff. The side you side up with also changes from each route. That is why the only way to adapt this well, would be omnibus format, which would also work with the context of Rewrite, since Moon's route is all about the proof we have experienced all those different routes and different developments to Kotarou's persona. TheLittleRedHero said: Hoppy said: Why do the good VN adaptations have to go to the studios that can't do them right? It's Little Busters all over again. I thought Little Busters was adapted properly tbh. The moment they took of the romance from each heroine, stopped making it a good adaptation. Refrain was a good adaptation thought. |
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TheLittleRedHero said: Playcool said: I was also expecting something more along 2nd OP, that is why I wanted WhiteFox for this... Each route differents ALOT from the others, like characters that were alive in one route, maybe dead in another, that sorta of stuff. The side you side up with also changes from each route. That is why the only way to adapt this well, would be omnibus format, which would also work with the context of Rewrite, since Moon's route is all about the proof we have experienced all those different routes and different developments to Kotarou's persona. The moment they took of the romance from each heroine, stopped making it a good adaptation. Refrain was a good adaptation thought. Does it really matter to have romance in this series though? I mean I haven't read the VN... but from many people, they said that it was faithful or close to it, they just took somethings out which were minor. If you're referring to Rewrite, then yes. The routes can't work without it. They'd shift into a completely different direction if the romance is removed. |
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TheLittleRedHero said: sanata50lbsb said: If you're referring to Rewrite, then yes. The routes can't work without it. They'd shift into a completely different direction if the romance is removed. I meant Little Busters XDDD With the romance removed in LB, they kept it as close as the original as possible. I could compare it to how Clannad's heroine routes were adapated; but that's a different discussion. As for your question, it's debatable whether the romance mattered or not. In my own opinion, it was yes and no. But I'd rather not get into it on this thread. |
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TheLittleRedHero said: sanata50lbsb said: With the romance removed in LB, they kept it as close as the original as possible. I could compare it to how Clannad's heroine routes were adapated; but that's a different discussion. As for your question, it's debatable whether the romance mattered or not. In my own opinion, it was yes and no. But I'd rather not get into it on this thread. Makes sense, also good point on trying to not bring LB on a Rewrite thread xD if we're speaking about Rewrite. Of course for me I heard that the anime stayed close a lot, and people ham on J.C Staff a lot so... I dont see the point on bashing a series for that. Maybe it would go for the same way maybe with Rewrite... when people go and say "KyoAni should have done it" *facewall* There were changes indeed, but it wasn't anything major the points of the routes and Refrain still got across (Refrain was great). I expect Rewrite to do something similar; with all this talk from Romeo about 'original development' We've discussed for a few years actually (believe it or not) why KyoAni shouldn't do Rewrite. I personally wouldn't want to see Terra spoiler in KyoAni style |
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TheLittleRedHero said: The art doesn't look that bad. It actually fits for the comedy scenes, but I'm worried how it would go for the intense ones. They kind of kept the OST which was nice. Not gonna lie, KOTAROU MY BABY IN ANIME ITS TOO CUTE. Though I have to say the designs are a little moe-esque but its considered fine I suppose. Kotori is mah baby <3 gotta love her tho she's so cutee |
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Does it really matter to have romance in this series though? I mean I haven't read the VN... but from many people, they said that it was faithful or close to it, they just took somethings out which were minor.[/quote] For the true route goal, the romance in the other heroine routes wasnt that needed, but trust me when I say, if you played LB VN, there are some romantic plots you gonna want to see adapted for sure, and those made sentence in the context so taking them from it, makes some adapted scenes seeming to be missing something. All the more for Rewrite! Where all the goodness and huge development from Lucia's route cames from the romantic plotline! You cant adapt her route, and take off the romance it would fuck everything up. Chihaya's, wasnt that needed but stuff like Shizuru's, which ending of the route is pretty definitive, like catastrofic, cataclistic stuff, you gotta have the omnibus format, so you can give proper development to shizuru, and if you are going to do that, you need the romance also. Kotori's isnt that much needed, but Akane's is also needed, alot of stuff cant be explained with friendship, it just cant. Each route is greatly set appart from eachother, there is no bridge. After all |
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| This discussion about some alteration to story is stupid, as many have pointed already. Even Clannad has been altered a lot in order to make the route system works in anime, and people simply didn't complain because many people didn't have the access to the original material back then. Little Busters! indeed has a much lower budget compared to fans expectation, and it was handled amateurishly at times (especially in the beginning). However, I don't think the problem lies in scriptwriter (the screenwriter did a brilliant job in making the overall adaptation works as a linear story even though it's a very hard task to accomplish), and even the director is slowly getting better and made a pretty good Refrain adaptation in the end. Nobody would be able to salvage a Kajitsu with 13 eps restriction, so it's more like a production committee fault. |
zeroyuki92 said: This discussion about some alteration to story is stupid, as many have pointed already. Even Clannad has been altered a lot in order to make the route system works in anime, and people simply didn't complain because many people didn't have the access to the original material back then. Little Busters! indeed has a much lower budget compared to fans expectation, and it was handled amateurishly at times (especially in the beginning). However, I don't think the problem lies in scriptwriter (the screenwriter did a brilliant job in making the overall adaptation works as a linear story even though it's a very hard task to accomplish), and even the director is slowly getting better and made a pretty good Refrain adaptation in the end. Nobody would be able to salvage a Kajitsu with 13 eps restriction, so it's more like a production committee fault. Give this man a cookie! |
zaydgh123 said: zeroyuki92 said: This discussion about some alteration to story is stupid, as many have pointed already. Even Clannad has been altered a lot in order to make the route system works in anime, and people simply didn't complain because many people didn't have the access to the original material back then. Little Busters! indeed has a much lower budget compared to fans expectation, and it was handled amateurishly at times (especially in the beginning). However, I don't think the problem lies in scriptwriter (the screenwriter did a brilliant job in making the overall adaptation works as a linear story even though it's a very hard task to accomplish), and even the director is slowly getting better and made a pretty good Refrain adaptation in the end. Nobody would be able to salvage a Kajitsu with 13 eps restriction, so it's more like a production committee fault. Give this man a cookie! No, give this man an all access pass to the premiere of Rewrite episode 1!! |
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Simplo said: Grisaia was horrible, so I bet this will be bad as well. Same studio, same director. I will be more annoyed if Rewrite is done well when GnK was butchered, since GnK is the better VN. thepath said: LOL !! Grisaia OVA and 2nd season are both rated above 8 in MAL, so majority people do not agree with you Doesn't matter when the best VN (Kajitsu) was butchered. Meikyuu and Rakuen are just for wish fulfillment and turning the crazy up to 11. GnK was the masterpiece. Also, Meikyuu was not an OVA it was a special that aired on TV. And while it was an awesome adaptation, (better than the VN itself) people who dropped the first season wouldn't watch beyond that point and as such and as with all sequels the rating is artificially inflated. Just look at Gintama. GoldenDevilGamer said: Ehh, not happy about the staff, but since the VN is so good, even if they f*ck up, it'll still be good Oh you poor spring flower, you have no idea |
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Ginosore said: Most of the routes barely even count as romance... Especially Kotori's so it wont really matter in the adaptation Then we're not playing the same game. Probably you're too much focused on the action. |
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