Rokka: Braves of the Six Flowers (light novel)
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kyle8998 said: It's definitely Maura! I've been saying that all along! The way she talks like she's in charge of things always seemed fishy to me when they were first captured by the barrier. Also, out of the three characters introduced when they got to the temple, along with Hans and Chamo, she was the only one that could be it. Hans, cuz he'd be too obvious, and Chamo, cuz she could be more of a pawn at best, and is evidently not a schemer. As for the other characters, they could be ruled out. The story started out mostly from Adlet's perspective. Nashetania trusts Adlet and we were shown she's not evil. Goldof is loyal to her, so he can't be it either. And Fremy isn't much of an schemer, and is more along the lines of Chamo, in which she's straightforward. That leaves Mora. But then again, the actual culprit could still be someone else... |
| The Fog Adlet saw was fake. Making them think the barrier was activated. Then they saw the sword in the Dais. Adlet tried to deactivate with his blood bud didn't work. Then that means..... OMG Nachetania then activated the REAL barrier when she went crazy. No one has a crest that pairs with Nachetania ( Chest) For example: Adlet and Frieme crest are paired up. ( Opposite hands) @Suki: Going to end with the reveal of the seventh. If there is another season ( wishing) it will deal with the Fiends and Demon God |
AnimeFan500Aug 30, 2015 3:13 PM
AnimeFan500 said: The Fog Adlet saw was fake. Making them think the barrier was activated. Then they saw the sword in the Dais. Adlet tried to deactivate with his blood bud didn't work. Then that means..... OMG Nachetania then activated the REAL barrier when she went crazy. No one has a crest that pairs with Nachetania ( Chest) For example: Adlet and Frieme crest are paired up. ( Opposite hands) and none of the other crest pairs up. if anything Nashetania's crest pairs very well with Mora's back, they're at the opposite side of the body. sukiboy711 said: I have not seen an episode of this series but I am going to as it looks up my alley. I'm just wondering do guys think they will wrap up the story in these 12 episodes or will it be a cliff hanger to possibly be continued type of deal? This will wrap up a lot of things but will still ends up with a cliffhanger and to be continued, obviously . They're adapting the first volume , there are 6 out and the story is far from finished at the end of the 6th volume. |
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| I wont spoil anything myself, but i just wanna say: the LN are so godammn good and the plot is ridiculously messed up, so i recommend to everyone to read LNs after anime is finished, cause i have a feeling that anime only watchers will be left at the some big cliffhanger.:D By the way, i started LNs today after watching 9th episode cause i couldnt wait, and yeah...This is so damn good! Also, this episodes was great, and i can assume that studio Passione does very good job with this adaptation. I hope for 2nd season. :) |
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Crono-Cross said: Tylaen said: Wait... If Flamie knows how the barrier around the temple works and where the totem things are located, that means the fiends probably know too. Dang. The fact that no one seemed to remember that the temple barrier is activated when So.. there's your answer. it's not no one remembers, it's no one knows how to activate it. remember? Lauren may have lied to them about how to activate the barrier, and they all heard it from Lauren, so no one knows the true method. |
| [quote=Zefyris] AnimeFan500 said: The Fog Adlet saw was fake. Making them think the barrier was activated. Then they saw the sword in the Dais. Adlet tried to deactivate with his blood bud didn't work. Then that means..... OMG Nachetania then activated the REAL barrier when she went crazy. No one has a crest that pairs with Nachetania ( Chest) For example: Adlet and Frieme crest are paired up. ( Opposite hands) and none of the other crest pairs up. if anything Nashetania's crest pairs very well with Mora's back, they're at the opposite side of the body. Ah that is true then. If what Lauren told them was a lie then. Could " I am the barrier Master" that Nachetaniya recited be the real method of activating the barrier?? |
AnimeFan500Aug 30, 2015 3:44 PM
sukiboy711 said: I have not seen an episode of this series but I am going to as it looks up my alley. I'm just wondering do guys think they will wrap up the story in these 12 episodes or will it be a cliff hanger to possibly be continued type of deal? Oh god. Imagine if they made episode 12 end with a cliffhanger. The amount of rage there would be lol. |
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| It is sad, but it will probably be the case. |
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| Not completely offtopic but how many of the novel volumes are out plus translated in english cause i soo wanna read the novel after this season ends |
| Well, LNs are currently on 7th volume, which means that six of them are out, but i find just 4 volumes online for free on Baka-Tsuki and NanoDesu that are translated (plus 4th volume isnt finished with translation). |
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| Something just occurred to me I don't know if I missed something but how do they all know the entire forest was covered with mist at one moment? They couldn't all have been at every part of the forest to be able to determine that. Maybe the mist just appeared in the areas they all were located and then gradually covered the rest of the forest. Also Nachetanya is still looking hella guilty. Why is it relevant or not whether Hans pretends to know you or not? |
InugirlzAug 30, 2015 5:04 PM
Crono-Cross said: Tylaen said: Wait... If Flamie knows how the barrier around the temple works and where the totem things are located, that means the fiends probably know too. Dang. The fact that no one seemed to remember that the temple barrier is activated when _----._- So.. there's your answer. No one was told that was the method. You can't remember something you haven't been told. |
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| [quote=AnimeFan500] Zefyris said: AnimeFan500 said: The Fog Adlet saw was fake. Making them think the barrier was activated. Then they saw the sword in the Dais. Adlet tried to deactivate with his blood bud didn't work. Then that means..... OMG Nachetania then activated the REAL barrier when she went crazy. No one has a crest that pairs with Nachetania ( Chest) For example: Adlet and Frieme crest are paired up. ( Opposite hands) and none of the other crest pairs up. if anything Nashetania's crest pairs very well with Mora's back, they're at the opposite side of the body. Ah that is true then. If what Lauren told them was a lie then. Could " I am the barrier Master" that Nachetaniya recited be the real method of activating the barrier?? we don't know the true activation method, so it could be. But I don't think so because it would be too obvious. If nashetania is the seventh, she wouldn't do such a obvious move in front of three witnesses |
IronLobster said: Hinya said: I was thinking about that after the episode but why Goldof didn't check his own crest? Maybe he's the fake and he knows it won't appear if he checks his own mark. Or maybe the princess is the fake whose mark doesn't change and she wanted to trick Goldov into thinking no one is dead yet |
| Solid episode once again! Felt really good to see Chamot taken down, hopefully she won't be as annoying from now on. This mystery is getting more complex, feels like they could twist this in so many ways, anyone could be the 7th. Maura getting more suspicious/annoying and Nashetania still a top contender. Goldof probably just blinded by love. Fremy is such an amazing character and her chemistry with Adlet is fantastic, I love their conversations. Hans is also great. |
| I think it's Goldov. He faked being a Brave so he could be at the side of the princess and protect her. He went so far as to get involved with fiends to be able to invoke the fog (fiend's doing) and have it all blamed on someone else. If Adlet was kiled on the spot, Goldov or whoever he's working with could deactivate the barrier. Goldov may subscribed to whatever ideology related to the demon or maybe he just doesn't believe the Braves have a chance of winning, so he set everything up to assure the princess' safety. Just by process of elimination, it's not nashetanya since she's working to prove that Adlet isn't guilty. It's obviously not Adlet or neko guy. Flamie isn't the one either. Chamot is crazy but not the seventh. It's either the head of all saints or Goldov. EDIT: Now that I think about it it could be Nashetanya as well. She destroyed the pillar out of "anger". which seems suspicious. And she almost "faints" right after Flamie has been mostly cleared of suspicion, as if she was affected that Flamie wasn't blamed; very relieved that the a Brave didn't die so early, which would make the purpose of having a everyone in a barrier short-lived. The problem with Goldov being the seventh is that he doesn't seem to be much of an active player. He's quiet most of the time and only does or says something when asked. With Nashetanya, she's been weirdly in the backseat when Flamie was being judged which is understandable if one was to assume no want would want to defend the gunpowder saint. However, she did show mercy to her quite quickly and didn't kill her along with the help of Goldov. Now one can think that she let Flamie alive because of Adlet's will but here comes one of the biggest evidence... When the fiends where outnumbering Adlet & co, it was Nashetanya who ordered Adlet to go ahead in the temple. She didn't split the team in 2, instead she sent only one guy. Could this be because of her strong faith in Adlet? Perhaps but knowing Adlet's arrogance, making such an order would be easy. He is after all the strongest in the world, why wouldn't he hesitate to go alone first. Now that Adlet is the suspect, she's trying to work to prove that he's innocent and instead shifting the blame to Hans. With the help of Goldov, she might create more uncertainty in the group and stall for time before any Brave is killed. This allows the barrier to remain in effect longer before there's a complete bloodbath. She clearly had helped from outside. But how did she maintain communication the the other co-conspirator? |
CyberNTAug 30, 2015 7:29 PM
| Thread Cleaned Spoilers removed. You guys talking about the LN need to stop. Even if some of you aren't spoiling, it's leading others to do so and you should be talking about the anime anyway, not the LN. |
| So sad. So many "theories" in forms of spoilers, I can't keep on reporting those pricks since they are everywhere in this kind of threads. On topic: This episode really followed the LN's pace, from what I recall from the 1st volume, next episode should give the final clues on who's the seventh brave. Discussion may get heated as well on who's the real seventh but I will just lurk around and laugh since most will probably get more confused XD IMO, this episode was a 5/5 Animations weren't top but weren't poor either, Hans & Adlet's fight with Chamo was animated smoothly, and we got to see more of Han's cat sword style (nyaaaah!) They aren't rushing things to make forced cliffhangers, which shows how loyal they are to the LN's pace(Props to you Passione.) |
Kolios said: When the fiends where outnumbering Adlet & co, it was Nashetanya who ordered Adlet to go ahead in the temple. She didn't split the team in 2, instead she sent only one guy. Could this be because of her strong faith in Adlet? Perhaps but knowing Adlet's arrogance, making such an order would be easy. He is after all the strongest in the world, why wouldn't he hesitate to go alone first. if you think of it this way (saw it in a thread few weeks ago), while the warrior (goldof), hunter (fremy), and Mage (nashetania) engage in the battle, it's understandable and quite reasonable to send the sneaky rogue (Adlet) to retrieve the mission scroll (check the temple). |
Kolios said: I think it's Goldov. He faked being a Brave so he could be at the side of the princess and protect her. He went so far as to get involved with fiends to be able to invoke the fog (fiend's doing) and have it all blamed on someone else. If Adlet was kiled on the spot, Goldov or whoever he's working with could deactivate the barrier. Goldov may subscribed to whatever ideology related to the demon or maybe he just doesn't believe the Braves have a chance of winning, so he set everything up to assure the princess' safety. Just by process of elimination, it's not nashetanya since she's working to prove that Adlet isn't guilty. It's obviously not Adlet or neko guy. Flamie isn't the one either. Chamot is crazy but not the seventh. It's either the head of all saints or Goldov. EDIT: Now that I think about it it could be Nashetanya as well. She destroyed the pillar out of "anger". which seems suspicious. And she almost "faints" right after Flamie has been mostly cleared of suspicion, as if she was affected that Flamie wasn't blamed; very relieved that the a Brave didn't die so early, which would make the purpose of having a everyone in a barrier short-lived. The problem with Goldov being the seventh is that he doesn't seem to be much of an active player. He's quiet most of the time and only does or says something when asked. With Nashetanya, she's been weirdly in the backseat when Flamie was being judged which is understandable if one was to assume no want would want to defend the gunpowder saint. However, she did show mercy to her quite quickly and didn't kill her along with the help of Goldov. Now one can think that she let Flamie alive because of Adlet's will but here comes one of the biggest evidence... When the fiends where outnumbering Adlet & co, it was Nashetanya who ordered Adlet to go ahead in the temple. She didn't split the team in 2, instead she sent only one guy. Could this be because of her strong faith in Adlet? Perhaps but knowing Adlet's arrogance, making such an order would be easy. He is after all the strongest in the world, why wouldn't he hesitate to go alone first. Now that Adlet is the suspect, she's trying to work to prove that he's innocent and instead shifting the blame to Hans. With the help of Goldov, she might create more uncertainty in the group and stall for time before any Brave is killed. This allows the barrier to remain in effect longer before there's a complete bloodbath. She clearly had helped from outside. But how did she maintain communication the the other co-conspirator? I agree with this. I'm kinda leaning towards goldov being the 7th. I mean, he does hate adelet since nashetanya is so attached to him...he probably really just wants adelet out of the picture to keep nashetanya from thinking about him....that's also what I think. Maura, I feel like maybe her strong belief that adelet is the fake, along with her actions, is making us think that she's the fake, when she probably isn't. and nashetanya, is indeed also a possible fake. as you've described, her actions make high on the suspect list. And I highly doubt flamie or hans is the fake. |
| I like how the anime makes us suspicious about every main character. We are being placed on the Braves' shoes. But the 7th brave case has been going for so long without any progression whatsoever. And after all this time, even after Adlet's theory in this episode, we are basically back to square one. Kind of annoying. It's weird how Fremy knew about the stakes that buried throughout the forest. That made her like she knew the barrier plan right from the start. And what's weirder was how Maura really sure that Adlet was the 7th one. I think she knows something unknown to us that makes her really sure about it. |
| I like anime. |
| ...not much action but still intense, still waiting for the all-out fight ...at this rate you can't trust anyone |
AnimeFan500 said: If what Lauren told them was a lie then. Could " I am the barrier Master" that Nachetaniya recited be the real method of activating the barrier?? Any of the actions people did in the temple, up to the point where Adlet and Hans check if the barrier is really working, could be the real method of activating the barrier. Sufficiently crazy barrier builders could even make Adlet's barrier deactivation sequence into a barrier activation sequence. Spilling Adlet's blood, getting into a fight, breaking stuff, saying any of the words, opening the door... hell, even one of the Rokka entering the temple! It's magic, after all. Crono-Cross overestimates the significance of two of the actions. |
flannan said: Just as i was saying and that lead that Mora,Fremy,Hans and chamo are real flowers because they wasn't near the altar before Adlet and Hans check the barrier..Any of the actions people did in the temple, up to the point where Adlet and Hans check if the barrier is really working, could be the real method of activating the barrier. Sufficiently crazy barrier builders could even make Adlet's barrier deactivation sequence into a barrier activation sequence. Spilling Adlet's blood, getting into a fight, breaking stuff, saying any of the words, opening the door... hell, even one of the Rokka entering the temple! It's magic, after all. Crono-Cross overestimates the significance of two of the actions. |
| In novel, is pretty interesting to listen seventh's thoughts about situation. "They" are clearly having fun. |
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Tlahuizcapante said: In novel, is pretty interesting to listen seventh's thoughts about situation. "They" are clearly having fun. Yeah, I really love that part. |
darboux said: Well the fake mist+guy at ep 3 lying was discussed alot at ep 6 discussion. If adlet is right it is easy to pinpoint Nashetania as the suspect.The only one that actually did something meaningfull with the altar and the dagger was her. But the problem is the mist.I thought it would be easy to make fog with magic but turns out it isnt.And the chars themselves find it impossible.Also if the fiends had some sort of ability to cover the place with fog like this flammie knows about fiends and how their abilities works so she should know if it was possible or not. But still why is it so impossible.If Chamo can vomit a whole swamp with immortal fiends why is it so hard to believe that there is someone that can fill the whole area with fog. Also looked in wikipedia and there's something called ''flash fog'' ''Fog can form suddenly, and can dissipate just as rapidly, depending whether the temperature is below or above the dew point, respectively. The sudden formation of fog is known as "flash fog".'' The fiends that ''lured'' the braves could have used the bombs to help create the mist??or sth like this.You dont need to spit fog from your mouth to create it just control the temperature...fiends drop bombs make it more warm or they could have used bombs ice type or sth dunno lol to drop the temperature.... Honest if adlet is not right or at least partly right then we back to square one. P.S: Mora is indeed so hung up on getting adlet that its become quite suspicious.Any chance Mora and Nashetania on this together maybe? |
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StrawberryRain said: sukiboy711 said: I have not seen an episode of this series but I am going to as it looks up my alley. I'm just wondering do guys think they will wrap up the story in these 12 episodes or will it be a cliff hanger to possibly be continued type of deal? Oh god. Imagine if they made episode 12 end with a cliffhanger. The amount of rage there would be lol. I will kill myself it that happens, prefer to die instead of waiting. "seriously" |
EBlack said: StrawberryRain said: Oh god. Imagine if they made episode 12 end with a cliffhanger. The amount of rage there would be lol. I will kill myself it that happens, prefer to die instead of waiting. "seriously" Don't kill yourself yet! There is a LN translation! |
| My gosh, 3 episodes left and I'm really itchy to know whose the 7th Brave without spoiling c'mon guys, what episode will they reveal it? |
| The world shall know the truth soon. |
SweetCoconut said: My gosh, 3 episodes left and I'm really itchy to know whose the 7th Brave without spoiling c'mon guys, what episode will they reveal it? As was said somewhere nearby, it will probably happen in the second-to-last episode, maybe on a cliffhanger. |
Bear said: I hope Hans still believe in him though. I still don't suspect Hans even after what Nashetanya said. I noticed the bunny girl and hime thingy, but I don't really think that was a big deal. Go Hans!! And lmfao, Chamo's face was on the floor, but does the swamp-things goes back to her through her mouth or? Ugh. Definitely needing a second season. It's funny that you noticed it, since it never happened. I rewatched episode 4 and 5. It's something that's been bothering me since she said it. Nache says that Hans called her "princess" when he and Maura first arrived but then pretended to forget and called her "bunny girl" later on. The thing is, Hans never called her "princess". He never even spoke with her when he first arrived. Unless she's not recalling correctly, she's deliberately lying to Goldov, who, since he calls her princess all the time anyway, probably wouldn't notice the incongruity. |
| I'm really enjoying this show. Though it is moving a bit slowly. It's really hard to try to figure out the mystery, since many factors about how the world works are not told to us. It seems like Adlet is largely ignorant of them as well, so he's taking the viewer's place in trying to deduce what is going on. |
Irenesharda said: Bear said: I hope Hans still believe in him though. I still don't suspect Hans even after what Nashetanya said. I noticed the bunny girl and hime thingy, but I don't really think that was a big deal. Go Hans!! And lmfao, Chamo's face was on the floor, but does the swamp-things goes back to her through her mouth or? Ugh. Definitely needing a second season. It's funny that you noticed it, since it never happened. I rewatched episode 4 and 5. It's something that's been bothering me since she said it. Nache says that Hans called her "princess" when he and Maura first arrived but then pretended to forget and called her "bunny girl" later on. The thing is, Hans never called her "princess". He never even spoke with her when he first arrived. Unless she's not recalling correctly, she's deliberately lying to Goldov, who, since he calls her princess all the time anyway, probably wouldn't notice the incongruity. I was also thinking that. But I noticed that right after mora and Hans entered the temple, the episode ended with the seven wondering who's the impostor. so perhaps it happened between that episode and the next? |
ttcchen said: Irenesharda said: It's funny that you noticed it, since it never happened. I rewatched episode 4 and 5. It's something that's been bothering me since she said it. Nache says that Hans called her "princess" when he and Maura first arrived but then pretended to forget and called her "bunny girl" later on. The thing is, Hans never called her "princess". He never even spoke with her when he first arrived. Unless she's not recalling correctly, she's deliberately lying to Goldov, who, since he calls her princess all the time anyway, probably wouldn't notice the incongruity. I was also thinking that. But I noticed that right after mora and Hans entered the temple, the episode ended with the seven wondering who's the impostor. so perhaps it happened between that episode and the next? They would have shown us such a moment, since they are using it as a reason to place doubt on Hans. This is a mystery, they are giving us the clues, we just have to watch for them. They wouldn't have had such an important clue shown off screen, especially if they were going to just reference it later on. They're taking advantage of the fact that everyone calls her princess so often that you would think nothing of her observation and immediately place doubt on Hans again. It worked on Goldov, and it worked on the audience. I took her for face value until I decide to check her word. If you were watching this broadcast instead of online, most people would have probably forgotten that scene and wouldn't be able to check. |
| Solid episode again this week. Rokka really has exceeded every expectation I had of it from episode 1, and it just kept getting better. I haven't read the LN, but if I'm not wrong, the seventh should be either In any case, 5/5 for this ep. I can't wait to see how this plays out! |
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OneTrueEmiya said: I didn't think about Goldof until I rewatched Ep4. Chamo said he was "the big guy from before". But iirc, they shouldn't have met before? Goldof has likely met Chamo during his investigation of the Seven Flower Killer. Because that's the only case in which Fremy has failed badly enough to reveal herself, and Goldof knows her name and description. Goldof doesn't strike me as a great detective, but the fact he succeeded at his investigation shows us he's no fool. Irenesharda said: ttcchen said: I was also thinking that. But I noticed that right after mora and Hans entered the temple, the episode ended with the seven wondering who's the impostor. so perhaps it happened between that episode and the next? They would have shown us such a moment, since they are using it as a reason to place doubt on Hans. This is a mystery, they are giving us the clues, we just have to watch for them. They wouldn't have had such an important clue shown off screen, especially if they were going to just reference it later on. They're taking advantage of the fact that everyone calls her princess so often that you would think nothing of her observation and immediately place doubt on Hans again. It worked on Goldov, and it worked on the audience. I took her for face value until I decide to check her word. If you were watching this broadcast instead of online, most people would have probably forgotten that scene and wouldn't be able to check. I've re-checked the chapters 2 and 3 of the novels. There was a time skip (before the moment when Adlet and Hans went checking the barrier) during which Hans could have said it. Yet, the story is too well-crafted to just skip showing such an important clue. |
flannan said: OneTrueEmiya said: I didn't think about Goldof until I rewatched Ep4. Chamo said he was "the big guy from before". But iirc, they shouldn't have met before? Goldof has likely met Chamo during his investigation of the Seven Flower Killer. Because that's the only case in which Fremy has failed badly enough to reveal herself, and Goldof knows her name and description. Goldof doesn't strike me as a great detective, but the fact he succeeded at his investigation shows us he's no fool. Ah, thanks for clearing that up. So that leaves I can't wait to find out who the seventh really is! xD |
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| if you want a good strory, make that princess be the seventh in the last episode just kidding |
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Tlahuizcapante said: In novel, is pretty interesting to listen seventh's thoughts about situation. "They" are clearly having fun. I it's difficult, but it would be cool if something of the sorts happened in the anime. The sevenths shadow or something like it. |
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