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Sep 20, 2015 12:47 PM

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Some stuff was bad... like in the first scene in the tent, the guards standing there in the background like they don't care that some enemies came in just like that, and when they laid fire to escape and everything was ablaze - in the very next shot you see Arslan caring for Elam and talking, having no bit of stress because the tent is same as always and calm as shit. And some bits more like that, some unrealistic stuff and so on...

However, there were also great scenes, the battle was rather good overall and the fight between Daryun and Hermes was just awesome. Just as Falangis walking casually in that arrow filled room. I don't really like the supernatural elements, but that was cool.

I guess that misunderstanding at the end will sink that ship that was ArslanxEtoile. Well, I just hope Gieve turns up next episode.
Sep 20, 2015 12:48 PM

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THIS EPISODE WAS SO GOOD. The series is so hard to rate, 9 or 10. But then i can't rate it as high as Steins;Gate or Sakamichi no Apollon. Its not an intelligent series, but it has got heart. And thats what counts at the end of the day. Brilliant
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Sep 20, 2015 12:49 PM

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Irenesharda said:
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LOL okay this is getting ridiculous. Farangis walks into a room rained of arrows?


Did you not hear? She's protected by the her goddess as priestess.

And this show has been shown to have supernatural elements to it, why are you surprised?


There's supernatural, then there's excessive loads of plot armor, sure.

Honestly Farangis has to be one of the worst characters Maaya Sakamoto has ever voiced.
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Sep 20, 2015 12:55 PM

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Howling_Darkness said:
Great episode. 5/5.
Based on the preview, this anime will get an open ending. Here's to hoping that we will get a second season.
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Well, it's not like he's never experienced fighting females before, such as Farangis and Alfreed, however I can see him just disarming her and having her imprisoned.

At this point, she's wiped out from the battle and emotionally distraught. Arslan's barely fought, and he's a better fighter. He should be able to disarm her pretty quickly.
At that point, Narsus and the others will probably come in. They've got to go and get Daryun too. I think everyone's going to need a rest after all this.


We don't know who's a better fighter yet. But still, like you said, Etoil is completely exhausted from the battle.
And if you see the preview, she really is imprisoned, and judging by her expression, she comes to know that the Count committed suicide.


Well, we've seen her fight on horseback, which was shoddy, and also that this battle was the first time that's she's ever killed someone. Just from that, I can guess that Arslan has more real combat experience than her. He's been in battle more times and he's fought against harsher enemies. Also, he was taught by Vahriz and Daryun, I think those two are probably the best combat teachers in the biz.

And as you said, she's imprisoned in the PV, so I think she and Arslan might get some one on one time. Also, I wonder if he'll tell her that she's the one who's been giving him inspiration all this time?

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Why weren't there any of the Pars soldiers fighting in Hermes side during this battle? Is it just his means to "savour the flavour", by letting this time go and then crush Arslan next time.

I feel bad for Etoile, how her plan to attack the enemy camp led to a much easier assault for Arslan's army, that led to the death of the Count. Though it only quickened it, as Hermes hardly wanted to end it right here.

Can't believe Daryun wasn't the one to stand in that fight.

The two's relationship, I don't see how it would work out unless Etoile gets to actually spend time with Arslan, as a prisoner or something, to see his kindness to the point where she knows Arslan didn't kill the Count.


But there were Parsian soldiers on Hermes side, we saw them all with Sam last episode. However, Hermes is going the waste the Lusitanians before his own men in the final battle.

As for Etoile, it's seen in the PV that she does get captured so we can reason that they'll probably get some one on one time then.
Sep 20, 2015 12:55 PM

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Holy Shit! That Daryun fight scene was next level, just from the animation to the sound my god it was well done. Great Episode!


If there's anything that this show does well, it's the sound effects. The clashing blades, the pounding footsteps, the splashing water... just listening to the Daryun vs. Silvermask fight, even with my crappy earphones, was so gratifying.
Sep 20, 2015 12:56 PM

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And right the moment where he killed himself. Of. Fucking. Course.

Oh, pitiful shadow cloaked in darkness.
Thy actions cause men pain and suffering.
Thy hollow soul drowns in thy sins.
How would you like to see what death is like?
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Sep 20, 2015 12:57 PM
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robis798 said:
As the series nears its conclusion I'm getting more and more disappointed by how hasted and forcefully climactic this is ( if that's the correct way of describing it ). This series doesn't feel even close to its actual completion, there's so much to be explored, yet we are at "the final battle". The series simply abandoned so many side plot lines, like Arslan's mother, the Queen; the dark sorcery; supernatural aspects regarding the Djinns and many more.

Not too fond of how Etoile just stumbled across the scene at that exact moment when Count threw himseft at the dagger than Arslan was holding. And those nuns throwing themselves of the tower was a bit ehhh, I don't know whether I'm dense as fuck, but I just don't see message regarding their religion other than it's pretty hardcore and stupid.


Only thing I will disagree with you is is the nuns suicide being stupid. Even disregarding religion, during that time that is portrayed (What is it, like 300 BC?), women in cities that were captured were often raped and murdered. They had no idea how the Parsans would be, and given the fact the Lusitania were not too kind when they captured Pars, they could have expected revenge. Add the fact that many people were EXTREMELY religious during that time, suicide could have easily happened. I mean even in our time, in the 80's are whatever, there was a mass suicide case in Mexico because of some sect.

Other than that, the story really went down. Like I mentioned before, Kishward just randomly appeared with Arslan, and your points are great too. I really wish this anime was longer, and done by a different studio. The animation is absolutely horrible, yet this still remains my favorite airing anime.
Sep 20, 2015 12:58 PM

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I'm sorry, but the clashing swords sound effect is making ears bleed, it's just not good.
Sep 20, 2015 1:00 PM

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robis798 said:
As the series nears its conclusion I'm getting more and more disappointed by how hasted and forcefully climactic this is ( if that's the correct way of describing it ). This series doesn't feel even close to its actual completion, there's so much to be explored, yet we are at "the final battle". The series simply abandoned so many side plot lines, like Arslan's mother, the Queen; the dark sorcery; supernatural aspects regarding the Djinns and many more.

Not too fond of how Etoile just stumbled across the scene at that exact moment when Count threw himseft at the dagger than Arslan was holding. And those nuns throwing themselves of the tower was a bit ehhh, I don't know whether I'm dense as fuck, but I just don't see message regarding their religion other than it's pretty hardcore and stupid.


Only thing I will disagree with you is is the nuns suicide being stupid. Even disregarding religion, during that time that is portrayed (What is it, like 300 BC?), women in cities that were captured were often raped and murdered. They had no idea how the Parsans would be, and given the fact the Lusitania were not too kind when they captured Pars, they could have expected revenge. Add the fact that many people were EXTREMELY religious during that time, suicide could have easily happened. I mean even in our time, in the 80's are whatever, there was a mass suicide case in Mexico because of some sect.

Other than that, the story really went down. Like I mentioned before, Kishward just randomly appeared with Arslan, and your points are great too. I really wish this anime was longer, and done by a different studio. The animation is absolutely horrible, yet this still remains my favorite airing anime.

Oh, this actually does make sense, I didn't even put my thoughts into this.
Sep 20, 2015 1:08 PM

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Awesome ! Best episode so far by miles imo ! But maaaaaan why WHY did they have to finish the awesome fight between daryun and hermes with the stupid as ever totally cliché shounen clash...
really a shame they implemented the sorcery stuff too imo, would've been so much better without, go away you stupid darkness lurkers
Sep 20, 2015 1:13 PM

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Straw-Hat-Matt said:
Awesome ! Best episode so far by miles imo ! But maaaaaan why WHY did they have to finish the awesome fight between daryun and hermes with the stupid as ever totally cliché shounen clash...
really a shame they implemented the sorcery stuff too imo, would've been so much better without, go away you stupid darkness lurkers


Actually, the sorcerers were the way that the show's writers were able to pull this all back to the status quo of where this takes place in the original material.

This battle wouldn't be nearly as epic without them having changed quite a few things from the novels, however, they needed to get the storyline back on track, and they did that by having the sorcerers do their thing and get characters that weren't even supposed to be in this battle, off the playing field since they'll be important later.
Sep 20, 2015 1:18 PM
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All I can say about this episode is Estelle is the queen of misjudgement.
Sep 20, 2015 1:23 PM

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Irenesharda said:


Actually, the sorcerers were the way that the show's writers were able to pull this all back to the status quo of where this takes place in the original material.

This battle wouldn't be nearly as epic without them having changed quite a few things from the novels, however, they needed to get the storyline back on track, and they did that by having the sorcerers do their thing and get characters that weren't even supposed to be in this battle, off the playing field since they'll be important later.


Well... I did not know that, but that still just sounds to bad writing/convenient plot armor to me tbh,
kinda same thing for the whole farangis scene ; this stuff doesn't have to be spot on realistic, would be boring that way too, but you can also take it too far the other way...
Sep 20, 2015 1:34 PM

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After this anime is finished I'm going to watch the original anime for the godly art then read the LNs so that the godly art of the 90s anime is in my head as I read :3

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Sep 20, 2015 1:44 PM

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Great episode, but there's only one question I have.



WHERE IS GIEVE?!?!?!?!
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Sep 20, 2015 1:47 PM

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Arslan's naive bring harm to his men such as Elam.
Off they go to war and damn was that a epic fight between Daryun and Hermes.
Whenever I look at Daryun, it remind me of Lu Bu haha
Those Lusitanian's believers are so crazy...are way into their religion belief.
I don't want Hermes to be king (he hurt his own people), that can goes for Arslan as well (his naive will bring the fall of Pars).
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i count over 15 counts of bullshittery and "yer right" moments.
Sep 20, 2015 1:53 PM

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lol, are they serious? :D they let his enemy in and even didn't stop her when she tried to kill him, wounding elam instead. What incompetent guards does he have? *facepalm*

First she was alone and then there were suddenly her soldiers? And why didn't they shot her on place, plot armour much? *sigh*

Secret passage my ass, don't tell me they didn't do their job properly when finding a place for secret camp? And what's more, they even let them escape? How very convenient... o_O It's not like they were someone special from their point of view, they should be dead. They really failed hard while doing this.

Also, don't tell me they weren't aware of possible backdoor to their castle, there is no way they would go in *facepalm* What's more, with Arslan going almost undefened in, one good arrow from sidewalk could easily end his life and this madness *double facepalm* Farangis and her "divine" protection shielding her from arrow, what the fuck? *triple facepalm*

I cringed when those enemy guards of Silver Mask staying near Arslan were doing nothing all the time. I actually burst into laughing when Arslan ask to join him in his unending naivety. And when both Daryun and Silver Mask fallen out of window, he was there completely undguarded against skilled enemy *are you fucking kiddin' me?*

"I will not kill you now?" part? Magic again?!! *What shit of script is this?* And Etoile running in just the moment when Arslan was holding the dagger was VEEERYY convinent O_O Her words asking if he is the one who killed him when she saw it with her own eyes were also completely redundant...

All the good action and fighting was totally lost in this horrible nonsense. I expected some kind of failure but this was horrible beyond all limits. Whoever wrote this episode should never ever touch pen again in his life!

1/10
Sep 20, 2015 1:55 PM

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Although Daryun's battle with Hermes and the scenes between Arslan and Etoille were very good, I think that this episode had many ridiculous moments, like Farangis walking to a place infested with arrows without being perfored (I know that she says that she was protected by the djinns and that the series has supernatural elements, but this is too much) or Kishward coming to Arslan side of nowhere, when in the previous episode he was fighting with Sam (this reminds me of Akame ga Kill transition from episode 19 to episode 20).

It's a pity that the series has become so "bad", when in the beginning looks promising. Not only the incursion of this shadow priests allied with Hermes, but the plot armor of the protagonist and Narsus "Deus ex Machina" plans that never fails and it capable of predict everything. And the bad animation of some scenes didn't help either.

Well, it only left an episode. I don't think that the things will end in the last one, so I think that they will leave an open ending.

PS: Did anyone notice the atrocious animation when Daryun rekted those Lusitanian soldiers before fight with Hermes?.
Sep 20, 2015 2:19 PM

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Pff so after the battle between Hermes and Dayum, Hermes just cowardly disappears.. yet again! I was really looking forward to this battle but damn it... when that's said, it was an intense fight for what it's worth.

We're also put in yet another cliffhanger between Etoile and Arslan, why does it have to be like that always. It's not like we're randomly running away, intending to drop every time there is a less intense episode.

It has been a good run, but there are still so many things left unexplained, and i don't see all these things being explained in the last episode. I doubt we'll see a second season, but you never know.
Sep 20, 2015 2:50 PM

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Dang, I was hoping Etoile would be friendly with Arslan. That misunderstanding in the end will probably be hard to explain.
Sep 20, 2015 3:06 PM

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Really disliked the ending of this episode,of course Etoile walks in the moment the Count offs himself and misunderstands.
Sep 20, 2015 3:42 PM

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Man i wanted this episode to be so much better than it was. The Daryun/Silver mask fight was pretty cool until the end i guess.
Sep 20, 2015 4:13 PM

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Looks like someone ran away with his tail between the legs.
Sep 20, 2015 4:28 PM

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Always-Hungry said:
Looks like someone ran away with his tail between the legs.


It's kind of funny that you say that since Hermes technically won that fight. Daryun wasn't getting up any time soon.

However, he did lose the battle, though I'm really beginning to wonder if he was even trying that much. He didn't give any orders, he just let Arslan's men kill all of the Lusitanians. He seemed that his mind was pretty much totally on just facing Arslan himself.
Sep 20, 2015 5:04 PM
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Is there a site anywhere that post summary of the novels or something similar? Really hate to not know what happen after episode 25
Sep 20, 2015 5:28 PM

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CLIMACTIC FINAL BATTLE.





Never forget:




Good episode, besides the shoddy art as usual. At least the fight in the garden looked better. Also, Etoile showing up at the end - terrible timing.
Sep 20, 2015 5:45 PM

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Lol Farangis with that divine plot armour
Around and around the cycle goes.
Sep 20, 2015 5:51 PM

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I think Hermes fleeing his battle with Daryun is a pretty good example of why he would make a poor leader (as if we didn't have enough examples already). I think it's kind of strange as well though, because from the looks of it, he probably could have finished Daryun off at that moment.
After waiting a whole week for the answer to last episode's cliffhanger, we're left with another one.. I wonder how Arslan is going to explain this. I'm also really hoping that Etoile/Estelle doesn't end up locked away at the end of the series (similarly to Slaine in AZ).
Sep 20, 2015 5:54 PM
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zKitsune said:
umm hello? you never told him you were a girl so stop acting all justified.


you do realize that its a perfectly realistic depiction of female logic right?

she thinks he killed the count so he must have killed the count
she didn't know that he was arslan so he must have been playing her the whole time never mind that he didn't know that she was the soldier he met all those years ago when he was helping her when she was spying.
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19Pyro90 said:
Lol Farangis with that divine plot armour
This or the soldiers had the aim of stormtroopers
Sep 20, 2015 6:11 PM

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robis798 said:
As the series nears its conclusion I'm getting more and more disappointed by how hasted and forcefully climactic this is ( if that's the correct way of describing it ). This series doesn't feel even close to its actual completion, there's so much to be explored, yet we are at "the final battle".

Manga is still ongoing (and atm it only got 27 chapters), that's why it looks like this. Anime was made too early, perhaps they should have waited more or just leave it open once they reached most recent chapter to have second season possible.
Sep 20, 2015 6:21 PM

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Phoenix51 said:
Is there a site anywhere that post summary of the novels or something similar? Really hate to not know what happen after episode 25


I'm really hoping there's a second season, but if not, the OVAs from the 90s actually go a quite a bit further from this point. This battle is around OVA 4, and there are 6 in total.
Though, be warned, that even the OVAs leave off on a cliffhanger because there's just that much material to adapt.

Also, the OVAs are much more beholden to the original material, so you'll find events happening a bit differently there than how they were here. However, you will get to see how the rest of the story goes at least up to a point.
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Javera said:
19Pyro90 said:
Lol Farangis with that divine plot armour
This or the soldiers had the aim of stormtroopers


Stormtrooper aim is more or less some variant of plot armor.
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Sep 20, 2015 6:48 PM

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God Arslan is frigging cool now.

This magic element is kind of weird and throwing me off, but otherwise, great episode.
Sep 20, 2015 7:02 PM

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Man what a great episode. That fight at the end was great.
Sep 20, 2015 7:51 PM

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Loved this episode. I am so happy that we got to see more Arslan/Etoile scenes as I ship them so hard. At this point, I don't see them getting together as Etoile is so set on her beliefs and now she thinks Arslan killed Barcacion.

Is it just me or was Narsus fascinated by Alfreed in this episode? I really hope he doesn't end up falling for her as I don't like them together but I guess the chances of it happening are pretty high. I was hoping Elam and Alfreed might end up falling for each other but I guess it won't happen.

Sad that the series is ending next week. It's actually one of the best I've seen in a while. Here is hoping for a second season.
Sep 20, 2015 9:45 PM

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Farangis has a pretty ridiculous amount of plot armour.

Noooo not my ship!
Sep 20, 2015 10:13 PM

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I knew she'd come at that exact moment.
Sep 21, 2015 1:51 AM

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Wasnt kishward doing something in the middle of the sewers or something last episode? How did he just appear back at arslans side?
Sep 21, 2015 1:55 AM

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Always-Hungry said:
Looks like someone ran away with his tail between the legs.


Nah, he only ran away because the plot demands that Daryun shouldn't be killed in that moment. Is as simple as that.

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Wasnt kishward doing something in the middle of the sewers or something last episode? How did he just appear back at arslans side?


You didn't know that the series has magic?, Kishward only use teleportation.
Sep 21, 2015 4:32 AM

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The siege was overall great
Alfreed opening the gates from within was a highlight, also Elam taking a hit to protect Arslan

I can understand Kubard coming in and hold of a platoon backup up with Jaswant,
but Farangis walking in a firing squad dodging arrows like it's "Pulp fiction" is quite absurd
Also Hermes getting away with black magic after a fierce match against Daryun having both heavily injured

On the religious side it was horrible to see the women jumping off the tower when Lustanians are facing defeat
It might also be a great fear of being enslaved and more

The misunderstandings between Etoille and Arslan becomes bigger when her lord decides to take his life as well, but in an angle which blames Arslan for it
Which was quite cheesy
Sep 21, 2015 4:40 AM

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Mich666 said:
----------And when both Daryun and Silver Mask fallen out of window, he was there completely undguarded against skilled enemy *are you fucking kiddin' me?

Yeah, you're uber exaggerating everything but whatever as there's some part of what you say truth.

And you forget that Arslan is pretty skilled in swordsmanship as he's been trained since very young age, plus we have seen him training with Daryun multiple times throughout the series, it's been made more than obvious that Arslan know how to handle a sword. And there were only guards left, I didn't see anyone in particular that could be more skilled than him. Then again he was like 1 v 10 so eh...
Sep 21, 2015 5:28 AM

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OTP </3
Sep 21, 2015 5:36 AM

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Oh great there's going to be such irritating misunderstanding again... why did that old guy have to fall over... Anyway those religious people are crazy...
I hope Arslan won't end up with Etoile.......

Anyway Farangis being badass was cool lol Though if they really aimed at her, they should have reached her even with her divine protection...
Sep 21, 2015 6:18 AM
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looking through the comments, guess people aren't too happy about the plot armour in this show :P you're all entitled to an opinion but it might be a BIT of a stretch to ask for an anime (that has supernatural elements) to be realistic... although it would be nice to see someone from Arslan's group dying, that is very unlikely. Guess we all better start making our own headcanons if we're not happy with how the story is going

And to those complaining about the bad animation (a reasonable complaint), may I please direct you to this twitter post? https://twitter.com/thomasintokyo/status/630561608058585088 I think it's important for viewers to be aware of the current situation in Japanese animation and the conditions that many of the animators are working in for them to earn a living. For those noting the poor animation when Daryun killed the 4 knights prior to Hermes, it was a zoomed out scene wherein it'd be pretty hard to add a lot of detail in - surely it could have been done a lot better but obviously, the studio wanted to invest more in other scenes, particularly in close-ups and in Daryun vs Hermes.

Anyways, just my 2 cents. Personally found the episode action-packed and enjoyable! Best parts were Elam's save, breaching the castle gates, Arslan's speech and Daryun vs Hermes. Looks like we'll be given a cliffhanger / open ending!
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Lustania has the most retarded religion of all time....These people committing suicide makes no fucking sense whatsoever


I know right, like wtf. "Oh we lost but they will spare our lives, better suicide because our religion tells us to do so <.<.


They Invaded pars coz der religon said so in the 1st place
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I'm out of words for this episode. Welp, not really, that mass suicide is dumb af. I loved how the battle between Daryun and Hermes is a classic, but intense normal sword fight. If only these shadow magician aren't around I'd love it more. But I guess those guys were the reason why Hermes is so friggin' powerful. Another cliche moment with Arslan and Etoille (well later revealed it's Estelle) but somehow I just can't hate that lol. Can't wait for this season's last episode.
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robis798 said:
As the series nears its conclusion I'm getting more and more disappointed by how hasted and forcefully climactic this is ( if that's the correct way of describing it ). This series doesn't feel even close to its actual completion, there's so much to be explored, yet we are at "the final battle". The series simply abandoned so many side plot lines, like Arslan's mother, the Queen; the dark sorcery; supernatural aspects regarding the Djinns and many more.

It's not "forcefully climactic", as it's intentionally written to be the climax of the first act. It seems like it'll be getting a few more seasons, too.
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The fight was awesome.
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