Hunter x Hunter (2011) Episode 116 Discussion

tsudecimo said:
I don't think it wise to derail this thread with manga spoilers and it's something I promised myself not to do if I read a manga ahead of the anime since it's a dick move. So here

parfaited said:


I'm probably in the wrong for liking this emotional yelling deathmatch rather than the actual fights but I do.

tsudecimo said:

No, you are not actually. Considering that this episode is better than literally all the future fights.

just my opinion tho :o

insan3Spectre said:
You know, I cannot state enough how heartbreaking and gripping it is to see Gon just lose it this episode. Megumi Han produced one hell of a performance here and his lashing out at Killlua was tough stuff to see. Also, it was pretty fascinating how Killua deduced the situation.

But, what really stuck out for me this time is Pitou describing Komugi as "someone important to someone important to me" and then saying "She is the reason the King is who he is. If she dies then the King will cease to be who he is. She's that important." I said before that it felt to me as though Pitou was the one who most supported the King in relation to his changes, she was the one who also said he should pick a name he thinks is best and is now trying to save this girl so he can keep his identity.

Then you have Pouf who, on the surface would probably come across as the most loyal. But, he does not want the King to change, he sees him with Komugi and he hates it. He went to the wrong location knowing where the King was really at because he was so in denial and didn't want to acknowledge what he knows is true: this human girl is an important person to his leader.

Kind of makes me wonder which of the two is really the loyal one here.

PremiumCascade said:
This episode was just horrible.
You don't make me wait 30 or so episodes for an epic fight and then turn around and call it off.
I was waiting for Gon to massacre her in the most gruesome, dark and epic way possible.
It's shit like this that cause a series decline, there are some parts where cold inhumane decisions are necessary which lead to the annihilation of the enemy not a choice that will most likely lead to a happy and an emotional reunion of someone who already died.
Naruto already fucked up majorly by bringing all mains who died back to life(the pain arc), hunter x hunter please dont follow in naruto's foot steps.

Killua you sicken me "spits"

I want to see a darker, colder, blood thirsty Gon with Pitch black aura. Mabe make Killlua die, im not majorly fussed about him at the moment.

PremiumCascade said:
This episode was just horrible.
You don't make me wait 30 or so episodes for an epic fight and then turn around and call it off.
I was waiting for Gon to massacre her in the most gruesome, dark and epic way possible.
It's shit like this that cause a series decline, there are some parts where cold inhumane decisions are necessary which lead to the annihilation of the enemy not a choice that will most likely lead to a happy and an emotional reunion of someone who already died.
Naruto already fucked up majorly by bringing all mains who died back to life(the pain arc), hunter x hunter please dont follow in naruto's foot steps.

Killua you sicken me "spits"

I want to see a darker, colder, blood thirsty Gon with Pitch black aura. Mabe make Killlua die, im not majorly fussed about him at the moment.

Sapewloth said:
Gon, how dare you take out your anger on your best friend like that? You have no right!
There, you made him ragequit. Good fucking job, mang.

This episode was stellar, really. The voice acting was spot on and I got the chills all the way through. I felt terrible for Killua who had to sit through Gon's emotional outbursts while keeping his calm and making sure nothing he said would cause him to completely lose it.

I've read quite a few comments of people remaining skeptical about Gon's sudden and supposedly OOC rage, while for my part I do believe it was perfectly in line with what we've seen of his character so far.
I mean, if you think about it, all the rage he kept inside him prior to this second encounter with Pitou and why it just exploded the way it did had much less to do with Kite's fate than it had to do with Gon himself.

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tl;dr : fantastic episode.

insan3Spectre said:
I love how your posts can be funny as hell (just imagine Gon speaking like that in this episode, lol) but also really good at analyzing the situation. So, yeah, I liked this post. I think the notion that Gon's anger is so much more than because of Kite's death is completely on the nose. One of my favorite parts of this arc is that it fully realizes some of Gon's worst traits like his selfishness and his headstrong nature.

I know this isn't from this episode, but I disagree with you about Welfin. I like that guy. Like a lot.

judals said:

If you don't mind, I'll use your Gon monologue for my sig.

Sapewloth said:
Haha, I guess we'll never agree on Welfin then. His whole existence feels shoe-horned to me.

GalekC said:

ValeBreck said:
Inb4 haters saying "omggg wtf is this shit where is the fight i want the fights" incoming


Lol, I watched it on a Justin Tv channel which streams live anime

Sapewloth said:
Gon, how dare you take out your anger on your best friend like that? You have no right!
There, you made him ragequit. Good ****ing job, mang.

This episode was stellar, really. The voice acting was spot on and I got the chills all the way through. I felt terrible for Killua who had to sit through Gon's emotional outbursts while keeping his calm and making sure nothing he said would cause him to completely lose it.

I've read quite a few comments of people remaining skeptical about Gon's sudden and supposedly OOC rage, while for my part I do believe it was perfectly in line with what we've seen of his character so far.
I mean, if you think about it, all the rage he kept inside him prior to this second encounter with Pitou and why it just exploded the way it did had much less to do with Kite's fate than it had to do with Gon himself.

____________wall of text incoming____________


tl;dr : fantastic episode.

Sapewloth said:
Gon, how dare you take out your anger on your best friend like that? You have no right!
There, you made him ragequit. Good fucking job, mang.

This episode was stellar, really. The voice acting was spot on and I got the chills all the way through. I felt terrible for Killua who had to sit through Gon's emotional outbursts while keeping his calm and making sure nothing he said would cause him to completely lose it.

I've read quite a few comments of people remaining skeptical about Gon's sudden and supposedly OOC rage, while for my part I do believe it was perfectly in line with what we've seen of his character so far.
I mean, if you think about it, all the rage he kept inside him prior to this second encounter with Pitou and why it just exploded the way it did had much less to do with Kite's fate than it had to do with Gon himself.

____________wall of text incoming____________


tl;dr : fantastic episode.

VanishingKira said:
Basically covered everything that needed to be said.

MrAM said:
The sheer brilliance of this episode is astounding. So much emotional depth...I'd take this over a fight any day.

Gon was like another person here. Gone (pun not intended) is the cheerful, happy kid we saw in the beginning of the series. Gon has become something of a monster, from totally human emotions.

The role reversal here is incredible: instead of the conventional evil villain threatening the hero, we have the 'villain' in a helpless state and begging the hero to let her save someone, and the hero being the one who desires violence. The role reversal extends to the beginning of this arc as well: Pitou started off as the alien, inhumane monster, slaughtering Kite mercilessly and scaring Gon and Killua out of their minds. Now Pitou is the human one; she wants nothing more than to save a life for the sake of someone she cares about, while Gon is the one who looks like a monstrous psycho. Brilliant.

Look at the part when Pitou tells Gon she's trying to save Komugi. He keeps repeating her words over and over, with dead eyes. He can't comprehend it, can't grasp the idea that the person who he harbors so much hate for, that he thinks is a terrible killer, is trying to save a life. He can't understand Pitou; his whole world view is shattered. This is no simple situation, and Gon tends to looks at things simply. The purity of his personality is a bug factor as to why he reacts the way he does. In Gon's mind, if he likes you, and you've done nothing bad to him and his friends, you are good. Otherwise, you are evil. Pitou fits in the latter category, and now he discovers that she's trying to do something honorable, something noble. If he kills her now, he'd be the real villain.

It drives him insane. His suppressed emotions have no outlet, and the small, rational side of him knows he can't attack Pitou now. As he says, it isn't fair. Look at the way he lashes out at Killua- he tells him that it most be nice to be so composed because this has nothing to do with him. It's a childish attack, really, born out of a desperation to let out his feelings in some way. Despite his rage, Gon is very much a kid. That's what makes him so dangerous.

All of HunterxHunter has been about this, has been building up to this; Gon's loss of innocence. He was the sole main character who hadn't suffered any major loss, before all this took place. Leorio's friend died when he was a kid, Kurapika lost his clan as a kid, and Killua was raised an assassin. They all experienced something traumatic that forced them to grow up- all except Gon. It's his turn now. This whole series is a coming of age story, but it's a twisted one. Instead of the usual story of a character growing up to become a brave, great man or woman, this is about the transition from childhood to adulthood, and the most important aspect of that transition: a loss of innocence. Throughout his journey, the grim reality of the world that Gon lives in became clear to him. It's not a coincidence that all of his opponents are always adults, that adults are always the ones behind the greatest evils in the HxH world.

The parallel in this arc becomes obvious when you think about it. The King, the one who is supposed to be the Big Bad, has become more human, while Gon, the supposedly cheerful, optimistic hero, has become more inhumane. It's not only a fantastic twisting of shonen tropes, but also an excellent tie-in into the arc's overall theme of the nature of humanity.

Great episode.

tingy said:
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dekopinn said:


Exactly. Brilliant post and brilliant episode.

Aozure said:
Mmmhhmm excellent episode! This was really tense, I wasn't sure of what Gon was gonna do...it was scary. But I never really liked Gon all that much, this just made me not like him even more, way overreacting, he should be thankful Pitou brought Kite back to life in one way or another. This just shows that he really is just a kid, emotionally selfish he would let Kogumi die to have his revenge.