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| 5/5 How much pathos, we felt the feeling that in this episode, he played the fate of the anime series. If you manage to be "convincing" the words with deeds, will be a masterpiece. For now, everything seems to run smoothly. A tad tricky storytelling, but it was not boring. A large slice of the history of the game has been revealed, but many questions now arise! Of course that Shiro has spent time playing! ASD Drawings not great, only flaw of this series. |
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| Losing memory after death... Um... doesn't that make PVP extremely dangerous in a way you probably don't remember who killed you XD |
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| the way regan explains it I cant really tell if they are in a game or they got transported to somewhere real >.> |
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ju2c0c0 said: dobinz said: u guys see what i see???? omgomgomgomg ep 14 ep 11 ep 11 edit : lol fuck this bb code. im really bad at this OMG he's turning into a NPC... I don't think he is turning into one but IS one. My guess is that he is some NPC who wanted to become an Adventurer... or a spy from People of the Land. |
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Nayrael said: That helps to explain why he's so hammy. He based his personality off what he thought adventurers were like, because he always wanted to be one. He's role playing as a role player. But if Rudy is a Lander and can join a party with adventurers, that means other Landers can join too. Like a certain lazy princess...ju2c0c0 said: dobinz said: u guys see what i see???? omgomgomgomg ep 14 ep 11 ep 11 edit : lol fuck this bb code. im really bad at this OMG he's turning into a NPC... I don't think he is turning into one but IS one. My guess is that he is some NPC who wanted to become an Adventurer... or a spy from People of the Land. I hope Shiroe is just taking a little time to ruminate over what Regan told him. I'd like to see him reveal his knowledge to the full Council so that everyone can hear it (and so he only has to explain it once, lol) |
PaleBlueJan 5, 2014 10:36 AM
Nayrael said: ju2c0c0 said: dobinz said: u guys see what i see???? omgomgomgomg ep 14 ep 11 ep 11 edit : lol fuck this bb code. im really bad at this OMG he's turning into a NPC... I don't think he is turning into one but IS one. My guess is that he is some NPC who wanted to become an Adventurer... or a spy from People of the Land. Interesting theory. Are you referring to the similarities of their HP bar? If so I wonder how did he managed to change his class. The NPC were all "大地人" which means "Landers" while Rudy's class is "妖術師“ which direct translates to "Demon sorcerer". |
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Benphyre said: The NPC were all "大地人" which means "Landers" while Rudy's class is "妖術師“ which direct translates to "Demon sorcerer". If this help a bit, for NPC's their title/occupation is 'their way of life'. So them being a Lander would mean they're someone who lives with the land, so just a normal everyday person. |
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PaleBlue said: Nayrael said: That helps to explain why he's so hammy. He based his personality off what he thought adventurers were like, because he always wanted to be one. He's role playing as a role player. But if Rudy is a Lander and can join a party with adventurers, that means other Landers can join too. Like a certain lazy princess...ju2c0c0 said: dobinz said: u guys see what i see???? omgomgomgomg ep 14 ep 11 ep 11 edit : lol fuck this bb code. im really bad at this OMG he's turning into a NPC... I don't think he is turning into one but IS one. My guess is that he is some NPC who wanted to become an Adventurer... or a spy from People of the Land. I hope Shiroe is just taking a little time to ruminate over what Regan told him. I'd like to see him reveal his knowledge to the full Council so that everyone can hear it (and so he only has to explain it once, lol) wonder if shiroe notice that? sorcerer instead of adventurer.. |
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| sigh, pacing has really gone to hell and next episode will be just the same... |
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| Amazing wordlbuilding, I never imagined it would integrate gameplay elements into the world itself and have a whole history like that. I'm having high expectations for the rest of the show. |
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Catastrophic said: sigh, pacing has really gone to hell and next episode will be just the same... This has always been Mamare Tounos style. He favors world and character building to quick scene transitions that leave people to piece the puzzle together themselves. He lays the cards out freely and allows the audience ample time to digest the info. Then he proceeds to get to the climax and gives your adrenal glands their badly deserved shot. If you want a brisker pacing then I assure you this series (nor any series that comes from Mamare Touno) is not for you. |
| I love the music through out this series. Both the intro and the outro music is fantastic! And I love the ambience music that flowed throughout some of the story as well! |
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| That was a lot of informations... Hella deep... I wonder if that mage is good or bad... |
| Words aren't the only way to tell someone how you feel.- Tifa lockhart Which is it? A memory or us? -Tifa lockhart |
NettoAzure said: Tying experience loss to literal loss of experience (aka Memories) is quite a twist, and brings up some interesting questions. Hm... so memory is analagous to experience points... quite logical, now that you mention it. SkyTate said: Finally it's gonna be time for Minori to slap some sense into the guys and clear that dungeon. Not before she literally slapped some sense into herself. xD Good start Minori. ^^ About Rundel Haus: NettoAzure said: Also anyone noticed how Rudy was a "Sorcerer" using the Lander Userbar while Isuzu was an "Adventurer?" ;) http://i.imgur.com/bs6dcFu.png DenjaX said: Why is Isuzu an Adventurer while Rundel Haus is a Sorcerer on their game info? Shouldn't be Isuzu a Bard? There's something weird here. Here's the image: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/s5cf.png/ I notice 3 anomalies with this screenshot: 1. Rudy's status box is green, like a Lander's. Adventurers have purple status boxes. 2. Rudy has "Sorcerer" after the slash, instead of "People of the Land" or "Adventurer", like everyone else we've seen so far. 3. Isuzu's status box is blue. We've already seen that Adventurers have purple, Landers have green, and Monsters have red. Is Isuzu something else, or is the blue colour just to indicate an Adventurer in the same party? Maybe Rundel Haus is a Lander, but he's not any ordinary Lander. Maybe he's a Precursor? He seems to fit Shiroe's description of a Precursor, except that he doesn't appear to be a "legendary hero". O.o? Ineptia said: IWBFHTYML said: So basically 0 world spell: Creation of the game 1st World Spell Monsters are added in the creation op class in the game removed lol 2nd World Spell Open beta 3rd World Spell Apocalypse Yeah, I actually lol'd reading that. And I'm tempted to believe Precursors were alpha testers or characters the developers played with. Didn't Shiro say Precursors were powerful NPCs? Hm... So the 2nd World Fraction (arrival of Adventurers) in Elder Tale coincides with the release of the Elder Tale open beta on Earth. Is the 1st World Fraction supposed to correspond to an Earth event? Perhaps the start of game development? Works out as 5 years to develop the game to open beta stage, which seems like an upper limit for development time of a good game. Then again, how realistic is it to start developing an MMORPG in 1993? dobinz said: Quite sure he's practicing shooting around corners.Isuzu should tell that noob Rudy that hitting defenseless trees wont give him any exp |
| I really liked the history of Elder Tale. Regan doesn't seem to be a bad person but I don't think he's trustworthy (for the Adventurers, at least). And Rudy's really funny. |
| Man getting dumped with that much info made me 1. Barely be able to pay attention to it 2. Make the episode very boring. I wish they would have split it up a bit somehow. Hopefully next episode will be a bit better. |
| “News travels fast in places where nothing much ever happens.” ― Charles Bukowski |
| Delicious! xD This episode ended way too quickly, felt like it was only 5 minutes long ;_; I'm guessing it's b/c it was full of information and not much happened. |
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| Ok seriously, dungeoning is NOT that hard. TANK - HEALER - DPS. Tank goes in, dps very slowly, wait for proper aggro, then dps very hard and very fast |
LazyLuong said: That reminds me, do they follow the same logic from Star Ocean 3 where if your character have no HP "OR" MP, your character dies. Or am I thinking of a different RPG game. That's Fire Emblem. Except the MP part. |
Catastrophic said: sigh, pacing has really gone to hell and next episode will be just the same... If it helps, this arc was written in two volumes. The first volume of the arc ends in episode 15, from 11 to 15 it was just a big build up. From 16 to 20 we'll get to see something actually happening other than infodumping. |
| After watching the bit between Regan and Shiroe, how many of you made this face: http://i.imgur.com/aacnDQu.png |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
xchee said: After watching the bit between Regan and Shiroe, how many of you made this face: http://i.imgur.com/aacnDQu.png I wish I could... But I can't. I'm not that cute........ |
| my head hurts. In a good way. |
My DeviantArt and Pixiv and still waiting patiently for a 3rd season of Spice & Wolf :'| |
| "This is still so much better than SAO can ever hope to be. And it keeps getting more and more entertaining to watch." You forgot the "in my opinion". In my opinion (see, not hard) it's the complete opposite. Compared to SAO, LH is boring as hell. I will continue watching because i am already more than half way through and i need to watch something until the second season of SAO. But seriously i am sick of meetings, a nerd with glasses acting all high and mighty, 1930920 explanations, Akatsuki calling him "lord" is not funny anymore, all that shit about NPCs. Seriously... |
| Yup and to me SAO is the biggest overhyped piece of rubbish ever made, forced crappy drama, time skipping all over the place awful characters ETC. |
| So glad Minori is finally stepping up and saying what needs to be said! The stuff about the World Fraction is really interesting, sometimes I forget they've actually been pulled into a game. |
Newhopes said: Yup and to me SAO is the biggest overhyped piece of rubbish ever made, forced crappy drama, time skipping all over the place awful characters ETC. Piece of rubbish? The animation and music are top of the line, the characters are nice, the time skipping was to fit in 25 episodes. If they knew the success would be so high they would have waited for more progression in light novels. But it doesn't matter, with New Aincrad we will be seeing all floors and areas, this time without rushing. Crappy drama? Maybe if you don't get it. I know SAO is not perfect but if anyone calls it rubbish or even gives it less than a 7/10 they simply can't comprehend it. |
N1ghtShadow said: Newhopes said: Yup and to me SAO is the biggest overhyped piece of rubbish ever made, forced crappy drama, time skipping all over the place awful characters ETC. Piece of rubbish? The animation and music are top of the line, the characters are nice, the time skipping was to fit in 25 episodes. If they knew the success would be so high they would have waited for more progression in light novels. But it doesn't matter, with New Aincrad we will be seeing all floors and areas, this time without rushing. Crappy drama? Maybe if you don't get it. I know SAO is not perfect but if anyone calls it rubbish or even gives it less than a 7/10 they simply can't comprehend it. Let me clarify some things first chaps. And before anything else I'm a fan of both SAO and LH kay. For the time skipping in SAO this is because the novel it was adapted from (Volume 1 of the published novel volumes) was actually originally intended to be a contest piece for a one-shot novel competition w/ a VERY specific word count. It was virtually impossible for it to be that detailed just like w/ one shot mangas. Kawahara sensei didn't actually expect it to be that popular but he continued to update the story in the web version because of the encouragement of some fans. The problem was when it was finally taken up to be published they decided to go w/ the original one-shot instead of a revamp like w/ most serialized mangas or novels. Thus the time skips and awkward pacing. Sword Art Online: Progressive aims to correct that by detailing the events that took place over the 2 year period they spent in Aincrad such as the Laughing Coffin purge campaign. W/ that said let me just throw in my opinions as well. SAO and LH may have nearly similar themes (online gaming) but the execution of the plot are worlds apart. SAO only uses the theme loosely while focusing more on Kirito and companies escapades. It may be blatantly obvious as a shounen series w/ an OP self insert main but the writing (for me) more than makes up for it. Not how creative Kawahara is but how he delivers the narrative. Plus Kiritos monologues and tsukkomis are amusing specially in later novels. LH however comes from the great Mamare Touno. An absolutely phenomenal writer (in my opinion) when it comes to character and world building. Anyone who digs the socio-political and economic aspects as well as a meticulously painted world/setting will be in heaven. And I dig it my friends. I dig. Also LH conforms more w/ the old school MMO gaming template because it WAS based on them. Ever heard of Everquest? LH is not a VRMMO. It doesn't invent any new rules for game play except for a few things (adjustment from playing w/ a regular keyboard to being the one to actually fight and using voice command instead of hot keys for skills). Remember Elder Tales is a really old game (beta started way back in 98) that received constant updates to keep it popular and relatively fresh content-wise. Thus it hits all the retro buttons for us online gamers and makes us relive our glory days. SAO and .hack don't exactly evoke that sort of feeling cuz they try to introduce a new and unfamiliar play style (VRMMO gaming) w/c we can't get completely cuz we still haven't played any VR games yet. I wont criticize you guys being hardliners for your respective series. But let's not turn this thread into a flame war if we can help it kay. |
swordstriker21Jan 8, 2014 12:01 AM
N1ghtShadow said: Newhopes said: Yup and to me SAO is the biggest overhyped piece of rubbish ever made, forced crappy drama, time skipping all over the place awful characters ETC. Piece of rubbish? The animation and music are top of the line, the characters are nice, the time skipping was to fit in 25 episodes. If they knew the success would be so high they would have waited for more progression in light novels. But it doesn't matter, with New Aincrad we will be seeing all floors and areas, this time without rushing. Crappy drama? Maybe if you don't get it. I know SAO is not perfect but if anyone calls it rubbish or even gives it less than a 7/10 they simply can't comprehend it. Like what swordstriker said, LH and SAO share the same themes (online game + fantasy) but that's where the similarities end. These two are completely different series which shouldn't even be compared. Apples and oranges you know. Let's just try to expand our anime taste and get along yes? |
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xchee said: Like what swordstriker said, LH and SAO share the same themes (online game + fantasy) but that's where the similarities end. These two are completely different series which shouldn't even be compared. Apples and oranges you know. Let's just try to expand our anime taste and get along yes? If only we could downvote on the reccomendations segment of the anime page. That said, I haven't seen SAO, so I wouldn't be downvoting the reccomendation myself. |
| Regan really dropped an info bomb here starting with the mage types, history of the world then the classes and psyche/anima It was really captivating and interesting So Minori is finally going to step up and lead the party inside the dungeon |
| The plot's going to deep points.Interesting .. It gets better than better. |
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| how come some people are still asking how they're playing Elder Tale where as they're watching this anime since episode 1. Naotsugu has clearly repeated it a lot of times in the early episodes how certainly it is hard to fight yourself than when just seeing your character in the monitor, where as you can't apprehend size, breath or smell in the monitor my gad, how come they call what they're doing "watching anime" sorry for the nagging but its really irritating to see others not paying attention to detail where as the anime is already bluntly telling you one anyway, great episode, LH never ceases to establish itself TAKE THAT SAO ANIME!!! you really need to learn the know-how from LH's director. |
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N1ghtShadow said: the characters are nice Stopped reading right there. Joking aside, I don't really get why everybody has to bring up SAO. They are fundamentally different in themes and focus. LH feels more like a transported in an another fantasy world (which has MMORPG rules) more than stuck in a video game and trying to get out (or trying to get your girlfriend back). |
minescopeJan 8, 2014 12:29 PM
| Really interesting episode, the penalty for dying seems great. This show is so much better than SAO, I just... Anyways, the whole Rudy thing is interesting, but I don't think they lost the memory of him saying that. Maybe... Everyone has a death quota? I dunno, just the scene of Rudy dying during the OP always keeps me guessing. Rudy's hilarious XD Either, can't wait for the next episode >_<' |
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