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Aug 3, 2013 8:36 AM

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The bro-mance is ruined :(
Genocider Sho face is epic lmao
Aug 3, 2013 9:52 AM

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silverheart99 said:
And once again Danganronpa proves that it's mysteries are impossible to solve on your own. In the last trial, the only piece of evidence that could actually have lead you to the answer on your own was the message. The rest of the evidence told you only how it happened with no clues to the killer. (no, i'm not counting the cuff and glass ball. You can make nothing of that on your own.)

In this trial, there wasn't ANY evidence that could legitimately lead you to the right culprit. Sure, you could probably figure out the whole switch rooms thing (they made the only no lending rule extremely obvious), but that could only help you narrow it down to half.


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BloodyNightsky said:
Oh but what Mondo and Ishimaru were doing late at the same very night of the murder ?


The murder occured 2-3 days after their "battle" in the sauna.

I don't even understand how can people believe this, both meet up the next morning with the rest of the student and show them that they're bro.


@Both: That doesn't change the fact that they were in the sauna and Mondo had his clothes & everything on his person - his ID - with him. In the game it's actually the piece of evidence that destroys Mondo because swapping with Leon puts him at the night of the murder since we never see him changed in his other clothes anyway. And Asahina/Sakura/Celes/Chihiro made it fairly clear in the previous episode that those rooms were changing rooms even if you missed it.

It was more clear in the game because the IDs were actually used as evidence and Monobear said the IDs have only one way of being destroyed (from that you could deduce prolonged heat exposure). But you could still make an educated guess from what happens in the anime.
Aug 3, 2013 9:57 AM

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Chanaynay said:

@Both: That doesn't change the fact that they were in the sauna and Mondo had his clothes & everything on his person - his ID - with him. In the game it's actually the piece of evidence that destroys Mondo because swapping with Leon puts him at the night of the murder since we never see him changed in his other clothes anyway. And Asahina/Sakura/Celes/Chihiro made it fairly clear in the previous episode that those rooms were changing rooms even if you missed it.

It was more clear in the game because the IDs were actually used as evidence and Monobear said the IDs have only one way of being destroyed (from that you could deduce prolonged heat exposure). But you could still make an educated guess from what happens in the anime.


The way Mondo refers to Chihiro is also a big giveaway and it was completely cut from the anime.
Aug 3, 2013 10:09 AM

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Mittee said:
The way Mondo refers to Chihiro is also a big giveaway and it was completely cut from the anime.


Yeah, that annoyed me. But it just makes it harder to deduce in the anime which is a given already since we all know the anime is going to be rushed and more sudden than DR. And the way he refers to Chihiro doesn't really change the whole ID as a piece of evidence; it just throws more suspicion his way. Actually I'm not really sure why people are complaining about this case being too hard or impossible to solve. If they were playing the game it'd be another story but if you're just watching something you can just let the surprises come naturally. If you're watching DR not to be surprised at all that basically kills half of the beauty of it.
Aug 3, 2013 10:13 AM

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Chanaynay said:
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I know that, I played the game. I just answered him.
Aug 3, 2013 10:28 AM
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Nice to see Genocider Syo, as expected from the spoilers.

R.I.P to Mondo, next will be that super duper prefect.
Aug 3, 2013 11:02 AM

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Loool... I guessed 3 suspects before.. and one of them is Mondo :D
And I was right to suspect him... Poor him and Fujisaki.. He's already want to change but Mondo envied him and killed him.
Aug 3, 2013 11:19 AM

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i feel like i'm the only one who can't stand genocider syo/touko.i started watching dr expecting to like her but she's just so ugghh im getting tired of her T_T

(i do respect her taste in men though--togami is a total babe <3)

aww and i feel bad for ishimaru, mondo and chihoro. chiro bc she was killed, mondo bc obviously he has some issues and ishimaru bc his buddy died. poor bby ;_;

also, i have a feeling junko is going to come back. her death seemed to early and i think that there were some hints to her return at the end huhuhu
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Aug 3, 2013 12:02 PM

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Oh, Chihiro is a trap. Woops. Oh well, still adorable.
Aug 3, 2013 12:02 PM

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Rushed like the rest of the eps but it wasnt horrible. The lack of Togami's explanation really bothered me though. Loved seeing Syo finally animated. Awesome voice acting. Great to see Syo break Togami's "cool" attitude. Looking forward to seeing chapter 3's events unfold! Even though I'm sure it'll be rushed beyond belief. Who are they kidding with 13 episodes. If they do the second game, it better be 25.
Aug 3, 2013 12:07 PM

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I don't know if anyone pointed this out yet but



Same director btw.
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Aug 3, 2013 12:16 PM

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Really good episode
Aug 3, 2013 12:48 PM
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His reasoning for killing her was the most asinine thing I've heard. Also what was the point of him crucifying her?
Aug 3, 2013 1:54 PM

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skudoops said:
His reasoning for killing her was the most asinine thing I've heard.

Because you didn't play the game.
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Also what was the point of him crucifying her?

He didn't. Togami crucified him to make the trial more interesting seeing as he saw the culprit leaving the crime scene.
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Oh Monobear, you are so distracting sometimes xD


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His reasoning for killing her was the most asinine thing I've heard. Also what was the point of him crucifying her?


The evening before the murder, Fukawa entrusted Togami her dark secret and he "promised to keep it secret". I don't think it was told in the anime, but he must have seen Mondo sneaking around at night and became suspicious, he then discovered the body in the girls dressing room (he used a female id card like Mondo did). Togami made a copycat crime scene and crucified Chihiro in order to test the other students' investigation skills and to force Genocider Shou out. He also proved how easily the students are lead astray when presented with red herrings. Only Naigi and Kirigiri seem to be smart enough to see through it, the others are just idiots. It's pretty much his way of telling the others to get their shit together, or else he can't win the game.
Aug 3, 2013 2:39 PM

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just watched the sub version..
hmm I see touka has a different personality XD damn she look so fucking badass XD

hmm,, so it is true if the programmer is a guy? -_- never thought about it.. my friend had know it since long time -_-
Aug 3, 2013 3:01 PM

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lol this anime is way too over-the-top.
Aug 3, 2013 3:23 PM

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Mittee said:

So a mystery that contains twists and is not completely obvious is a bad mystery? In the game there was plenty of evidence pointing to Mondo, if you had played it you would have known.

Don't worry though, if all you want is easy mode obvious tier mysteries, you'll get your wish next episode.

When a person reads a mystery book they are expecting to be able to see all the clues and be able to guess at the answer themselves. The same thing applies to a mystery Anime. What I want is a mystery tht is possible to solve, even if we can't figure it out itself, not one that makes it impossible to answer before the trial. I'm sure in the game their is plenty of evidence. I said this once and I will again, I AM NOT JUDGING THE GAME. I am in the anime forums, posting my opinion of the anime. Nothing more. Whether the game has more evidence is irrelevant since we're not discussing the game. The point is, the anime doesn't have more evidence. As I also said before, I would love to know what additional evidence the game contained that the anime left out.
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I'm sorry but no evidence ?
Oh but what Mondo and Ishimaru were doing late at the same very night of the murder ?
Seriously if you judge by the fact that the objects used and the manner done was bad compared to it's original it eliminates Genocider Syo from being the culprit and anyone else but Ishimaru and Mondo......
And , yes , the pattern will change . Unfortunately I cant guess from what episode.....maybe 10?

I was somewhat confused when you first posted this, as Mondo and Ishimaru did not in fact do anything together late at light the night of the murder. You were talking about the sauna, right?
I will admit that the sauna could have been a very nice clue, however any value of this I think was destroyed by the fact that there was no real way for us to know that Mondo's handbook was destroyed. If none of the other students were able to figure out that you can destroy the handbook in the sauna, they shouldn't expect the viewers to (we can assume the other students couldn't figure that out since otherwise it would destroy that piece of evidence anyway). There was literally no mention of handbooks being broken in the case and so there was no way for us to figure that out. Also, eliminating Genocider Sho wouldn't help us at all, as there is no way to figure out who Geoncider Sho is. In fact, since Genocider Sho's a girl, eliminating her wouldn't help us even if we knew it was her, since we have supposedly already eliminated all the girls. Thank you for the reassurance that the anime should break that cycle at some point though, although not until the very end. The means I have at least a few episodes that arean't the same thing with different characters and evidence to look forward to.
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silverheart99 said:
And once again Danganronpa proves that it's mysteries are impossible to solve on your own. In the last trial, the only piece of evidence that could actually have lead you to the answer on your own was the message. The rest of the evidence told you only how it happened with no clues to the killer. (no, i'm not counting the cuff and glass ball. You can make nothing of that on your own.)

In this trial, there wasn't ANY evidence that could legitimately lead you to the right culprit. Sure, you could probably figure out the whole switch rooms thing (they made the only no lending rule extremely obvious), but that could only help you narrow it down to half.


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BloodyNightsky said:
Oh but what Mondo and Ishimaru were doing late at the same very night of the murder ?


The murder occured 2-3 days after their "battle" in the sauna.

I don't even understand how can people believe this, both meet up the next morning with the rest of the student and show them that they're bro.


@Both: That doesn't change the fact that they were in the sauna and Mondo had his clothes & everything on his person - his ID - with him. In the game it's actually the piece of evidence that destroys Mondo because swapping with Leon puts him at the night of the murder since we never see him changed in his other clothes anyway. And Asahina/Sakura/Celes/Chihiro made it fairly clear in the previous episode that those rooms were changing rooms even if you missed it.

It was more clear in the game because the IDs were actually used as evidence and Monobear said the IDs have only one way of being destroyed (from that you could deduce prolonged heat exposure). But you could still make an educated guess from what happens in the anime.

I'm not sure what you mean by switching with Leon. Leon's dead, isn't he? Could you elaborate somewhat on your top statement?

As for the bottom statement, please see the two responses I gave above.
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Aug 3, 2013 3:33 PM

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I'm a bit sad they removed such crucial things that were a part of Chihiro's story and would have made everything come together in a more whole, clear way, but I'm satisfied. Ishimaru's whole breakdown was extremely heartbreaking and I completely felt for him, even more so than I did while playing the game!

Just.... Chihi. ;___;

also monokuma calling chihiro a trap could you not you stupid bear
Aug 3, 2013 3:43 PM

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silverheart99 said:
I'm not sure what you mean by switching with Leon. Leon's dead, isn't he? Could you elaborate somewhat on your top statement?


Mondo's ID broke when he went into the sauna with Ishimaru. He swapped his ID with Leon's so it looked like Leon's ID was broken even though it was fully functional and on his person all along. Kirigiri explained it at the end, but you still could have guessed it was Mondo because the broken ID was presented as evidence in the previous episode.
Aug 3, 2013 3:46 PM

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silverheart99 said:

When a person reads a mystery book they are expecting to be able to see all the clues and be able to guess at the answer themselves. The same thing applies to a mystery Anime. What I want is a mystery tht is possible to solve, even if we can't figure it out itself, not one that makes it impossible to answer before the trial. I'm sure in the game their is plenty of evidence. I said this once and I will again, I AM NOT JUDGING THE GAME. I am in the anime forums, posting my opinion of the anime. Nothing more. Whether the game has more evidence is irrelevant since we're not discussing the game. The point is, the anime doesn't have more evidence. As I also said before, I would love to know what additional evidence the game contained that the anime left out.

Leon's id, which he took from the entrance hall and the way he referred to Chihiro after the murder. It's subtle but it does give him away.

If you want to be able to solve the cases yourself, why are you even watching this? The game is 6 chapters plus a prologue and epilogue. It's episode 5 and we're only up to the end of chapter 2. They're going to keep leaving important scenes on the cutting room floor and you're only spoiling a great game for yourself by watching this.
Aug 3, 2013 3:49 PM

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ps



couldn't have picked a more ironic time to pause
Aug 3, 2013 3:50 PM

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I think the last 2 episodes were very weak. I hope the next episodes will be better ^^
Aug 3, 2013 4:04 PM

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Did monobear eat those pancakes with that Mondo butter? o.O
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Aug 3, 2013 4:20 PM

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They managed to animate the second class trial abit better than expected, although it seemed kinda rushed for some reason. Well considering this series is only 12 episodes they cant really explain everything from the game. Look forward to the next episodes.





Aug 3, 2013 4:50 PM

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Pretty meh tbh, I might just drop this but I'll at least try the next episode.
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Aug 3, 2013 5:08 PM

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I'm quite enjoying the show, its at least different from the usual anime... I know some people complain about it being rushed and all, but i think it is doing a decent job... not a masterpiece but quite enjoyable....
Anyway did i catched a soul eater reference at this episode or am i crazy ?
Aug 3, 2013 5:11 PM

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Mittee said:
silverheart99 said:

When a person reads a mystery book they are expecting to be able to see all the clues and be able to guess at the answer themselves. The same thing applies to a mystery Anime. What I want is a mystery tht is possible to solve, even if we can't figure it out itself, not one that makes it impossible to answer before the trial. I'm sure in the game their is plenty of evidence. I said this once and I will again, I AM NOT JUDGING THE GAME. I am in the anime forums, posting my opinion of the anime. Nothing more. Whether the game has more evidence is irrelevant since we're not discussing the game. The point is, the anime doesn't have more evidence. As I also said before, I would love to know what additional evidence the game contained that the anime left out.

Leon's id, which he took from the entrance hall and the way he referred to Chihiro after the murder. It's subtle but it does give him away.

If you want to be able to solve the cases yourself, why are you even watching this? The game is 6 chapters plus a prologue and epilogue. It's episode 5 and we're only up to the end of chapter 2. They're going to keep leaving important scenes on the cutting room floor and you're only spoiling a great game for yourself by watching this.

If what you say about the ID was indeed in there, I apologize. I do not remember seeing the ID at any point in there, but I could easily have missed it. Again, sorry if this is the case for if it was there I didn't notice it upon one watch through and the anime doesn't mean enough to me to watch the episode again.

Anyway, the reason I don't play the game is primarily because I don't own the console to play it on and don't want to figure out emulators. I wouldn't be against playing the game, but pressing though 6 chapters that are, by definition, primarily text doesn't sound the most appealing to me.
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Aug 3, 2013 5:47 PM

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This show is incredibly mediocre
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MasterMeNL said:
Pretty meh tbh, I might just drop this but I'll at least try the next episode.
you should go play the game or read the lp if you want something that isnt shit

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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MasterMeNL said:
Pretty meh tbh, I might just drop this but I'll at least try the next episode.


Yeah...no. If any of the chapters of Danganronpa were to be labeled "SHIT STORM" Chapter 3 would be it (assuming Chapter 6 will be more unpacked compared to what we've seen given its importance). If I had to put my faith into a following episode it'd be Chapter 4. It's one of my favorite chapters and I think it's short enough to be depicted slightly well by this adaptation. So if I were you I'd wait around until Chapter 4, not 3!
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Mittee said:
skudoops said:
His reasoning for killing her was the most asinine thing I've heard.

Because you didn't play the game.
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Also what was the point of him crucifying her?

He didn't. Togami crucified him to make the trial more interesting seeing as he saw the culprit leaving the crime scene.


First part isn't my fault, second part still makes no sense. Again what we would be the point of doing that? To expose the murderer girl?
Aug 3, 2013 6:38 PM

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These trial episodes are so shitty, then again so is this whole adaptation.
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The evening before the murder, Fukawa entrusted Togami her dark secret and he "promised to keep it secret". I don't think it was told in the anime, but he must have seen Mondo sneaking around at night and became suspicious, he then discovered the body in the girls dressing room (he used a female id card like Mondo did). Togami made a copycat crime scene and crucified Chihiro in order to test the other students' investigation skills and to force Genocider Shou out. He also proved how easily the students are lead astray when presented with red herrings. Only Naigi and Kirigiri seem to be smart enough to see through it, the others are just idiots. It's pretty much his way of telling the others to get their shit together, or else he can't win the game.


I suppose, but wouldn't it have been easier for him to just commit a murder and get away with it rather than go through all that crap?
Aug 3, 2013 7:18 PM

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Whaaa, Genocider Shou! :O What a sick tongue!

Good episode. The punishmet at the end was totally awesome. Nicely animated!
Aug 3, 2013 7:22 PM

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skudoops said:
Mittee said:
skudoops said:
Also what was the point of him crucifying her?

He didn't. Togami crucified him to make the trial more interesting seeing as he saw the culprit leaving the crime scene.


second part still makes no sense. Again what we would be the point of doing that? To expose the murderer girl?


Yeah, he wanted to expose Genocider. He mostly wanted to make the trial interesting though. And you're right, it doesn't make sense. He crucified Chihiro because he's an emotionally inept elitist douchebag who thought desecrating his classmate's dead body for the sake of mentally challenging his other classmates in a life-or-death situation would be a good idea.

(PS: I don't mind Togami. I actually even like him a little. He's not that high up there on my list, but he's alright. It's just that at this point in the game I HATED him passionately.)
Aug 3, 2013 9:33 PM

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Ahahahah, I laughted so much xD
Aug 3, 2013 10:32 PM

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Another incredibly mediocre episode. For someone who haven't played the game, things are going too fast (and I understand it, since it's just one cour, but still...)
Hopefully things will get better.
Aug 3, 2013 10:34 PM

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sweetdrops said:

Hopefully things will get better.
trust me on this, they will not get better but rather worse. chapter 1 and 2 were the shortest chapters in the game and chapter 5 and 6 in particular take a up a large chunk of the game with a shit ton of details flying around

I can guarantee you it wont get better

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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I like how trap they set up by saying blue sweater, but I feel like no1 would really fall for that... I liked the episode, but I dont like how its pretty much impossible to figure out who the killer is, which is how most murder mystery shows are anyway but I like to have a chance at figuring them out, but Id rather it be like this than be too obvious. Maybe its just me. I still like the show tho and will continue watching
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That was ridiculous. Terrible decision to have this as 1 cour. Now trials are just getting blitzed through with no suspense or impact. They're gonna cock up the last chapter at this rate.

Still Ishimaru's breakdown was pretty sweet.
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I like how trap they set up by saying blue sweater, but I feel like no1 would really fall for that... I liked the episode, but I dont like how its pretty much impossible to figure out who the killer is, which is how most murder mystery shows are anyway but I like to have a chance at figuring them out, but Id rather it be like this than be too obvious. Maybe its just me. I still like the show tho and will continue watching

It was actually possible from the game's perspective even before the Class Trial. I rather not say what it was as it is something of a "Doh! How did I not notice that?!" kind of feeling. The anime decided to not include that part, and that was what it was that made it impossible... not to mention that the anime made it feel more like an ass pull than it ever was from the game. :(

Just remember that this finding-the-culprit thing is done by majority vote. So your job isn't so much as to find the culprit as it is to find the most suspicious person who could have done it. This sort of thinking could backfire but should only be done as a last resort. In other words, it's not like Ace Attorney and it's guilty until proven innocent shenanigans.

If you want to know what that "How did I not notice that?!" thing, continue to watch after the 1:05:00 minute mark. If you plan on watching more of the walkthrough, do be careful of spoilers from the comment section and the thumbnails of some particular videos!

The following spoiler tag contains a video of Dangan Ronpa's Chapter 2 Class Trial:
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Well if he can answer any question except his three sizes, and who the sixteenth high schooler was couldn't be answered, it's one of Monobear's parts?

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^LOL xD

haha, hearing Sawashiro for this crazy character. o.o her tongue. . .
The only thing I really dislike about this series is the lead character.

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Playing the game, I realized Danganronpa the Animaton is rushed as hell. Some part of the trial is done differently, I expect changes but still there are things that are better off not be changed. They removed Togami and his rape face during the comic flashback, its not really important but I like that part. Oh and the part whee Fujisaki's gender is revealed is much better in the game with Sakura checking the corpse and noticed its a man.

Genocider Sho shows up, she's the one that make Fukawa worth talking to.

Monokuma is one f*cked up character and his punishment is always over the top crazy. But its still a funny bear with interesting perspective of the world.
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silverheart99 said:
Mittee said:
silverheart99 said:

When a person reads a mystery book they are expecting to be able to see all the clues and be able to guess at the answer themselves. The same thing applies to a mystery Anime. What I want is a mystery tht is possible to solve, even if we can't figure it out itself, not one that makes it impossible to answer before the trial. I'm sure in the game their is plenty of evidence. I said this once and I will again, I AM NOT JUDGING THE GAME. I am in the anime forums, posting my opinion of the anime. Nothing more. Whether the game has more evidence is irrelevant since we're not discussing the game. The point is, the anime doesn't have more evidence. As I also said before, I would love to know what additional evidence the game contained that the anime left out.

Leon's id, which he took from the entrance hall and the way he referred to Chihiro after the murder. It's subtle but it does give him away.

If you want to be able to solve the cases yourself, why are you even watching this? The game is 6 chapters plus a prologue and epilogue. It's episode 5 and we're only up to the end of chapter 2. They're going to keep leaving important scenes on the cutting room floor and you're only spoiling a great game for yourself by watching this.

If what you say about the ID was indeed in there, I apologize. I do not remember seeing the ID at any point in there, but I could easily have missed it. Again, sorry if this is the case for if it was there I didn't notice it upon one watch through and the anime doesn't mean enough to me to watch the episode again.

Anyway, the reason I don't play the game is primarily because I don't own the console to play it on and don't want to figure out emulators. I wouldn't be against playing the game, but pressing though 6 chapters that are, by definition, primarily text doesn't sound the most appealing to me.

The anime kind of glosses over it. I'm going to have to watch the episode again because I can't remember whether they mentioned it but basically, Mondo broke his id in the sauna battle with Ishimaru and switched it with Leon's id from the entrance hall. In the end, they expose him by getting him to show his id but in the anime they finger him using only his slip of the tongue regarding the track suit.

What they definitely didn't show though is how Mondo subconsciously refers to girls as chicks and boys as kids. After the murder he starts calling Chihiro kid, which Kirigiri picks up on.

If you don't want to play the game, you can always read the Let's Play although I'm pretty sure the new version of PPSSPP runs the game flawlessly. As it stands, you're only getting half the story by watching this anime.
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Monobear, three sizes? Smells like a female mastermind.
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They did this trail in only one episode?
I can see it being awfully rushed, might watch it latter.

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Mittee said:
silverheart99 said:

When a person reads a mystery book they are expecting to be able to see all the clues and be able to guess at the answer themselves. The same thing applies to a mystery Anime. What I want is a mystery tht is possible to solve, even if we can't figure it out itself, not one that makes it impossible to answer before the trial. I'm sure in the game their is plenty of evidence. I said this once and I will again, I AM NOT JUDGING THE GAME. I am in the anime forums, posting my opinion of the anime. Nothing more. Whether the game has more evidence is irrelevant since we're not discussing the game. The point is, the anime doesn't have more evidence. As I also said before, I would love to know what additional evidence the game contained that the anime left out.

Leon's id, which he took from the entrance hall and the way he referred to Chihiro after the murder. It's subtle but it does give him away.

If you want to be able to solve the cases yourself, why are you even watching this? The game is 6 chapters plus a prologue and epilogue. It's episode 5 and we're only up to the end of chapter 2. They're going to keep leaving important scenes on the cutting room floor and you're only spoiling a great game for yourself by watching this.

If what you say about the ID was indeed in there, I apologize. I do not remember seeing the ID at any point in there, but I could easily have missed it. Again, sorry if this is the case for if it was there I didn't notice it upon one watch through and the anime doesn't mean enough to me to watch the episode again.

Anyway, the reason I don't play the game is primarily because I don't own the console to play it on and don't want to figure out emulators. I wouldn't be against playing the game, but pressing though 6 chapters that are, by definition, primarily text doesn't sound the most appealing to me.

If you are interested in solving the murders the game is quite enjoyable.
Though I guess you could read a list of evidence somewhere before each trial in the anime? but the anime skip a lot of things, not only some evidence but comments from characters that give you some theories.
Aug 4, 2013 11:09 AM

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Yeah, this ep has made me finally cave into downloading the vn.
I'm disappointed that it's only 13 episodes. I've not actually played the game yet, but from what I know/have heard, it just can't be done so quickly.

Anyway, gosh, I already miss Chihiro. Such a cutie. Again, I'd already accidentally spoiled myself so I knew that she was killed by Oowada. Gotta stop doing that.
And the whole Chihiro gender thing is getting on my nerves. I totally wish it'd been handled better.
Aug 4, 2013 5:58 PM

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There is a spy hidden? And they are the "16th member"? Interesting
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Aug 4, 2013 7:16 PM

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Me: 'Oh wow, this was really rushed and felt kinda asspull--
-that ending Monobear scene-

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