THE LEGEND OF THE STRONGEST, KUROSAWA!
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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- That was amazing, surprisingly the pacing wasn't an issue like most of Fukumoto's other manga and Kurosawa's such a fantastic character as well, sad how he ended up but then again I don't think it could have ended any better. 9/10 |
saintcross said: That was amazing, surprisingly the pacing wasn't an issue like most of Fukumoto's other manga and Kurosawa's such a fantastic character as well, sad how he ended up but then again I don't think it could have ended any better. 9/10 Eh, I never saw Fukumoto's pacing as an issue. I saw it more as a means to create suspense and tension. Kurosawa didn't need suspense or tension; It was, quite simply, a beautiful story. I read this some time back... It truly was a great experience. I loved the ending, though it was somewhat hard to deal with. |
| Interesting ending but seriously the entire manga could have been way better. |
| That was quite sad. Well at least he ended his life with a bang. |
AlexSadist-sama said: Interesting ending but seriously the entire manga could have been way better. I agree, I was going to give this a 7/10 but the final arc bumped it up for an 8/10 |
| T_T This manga was amazing. Beautiful ending, and I'm glad Kurosawa died, it would've been so cliche if he had miraculously came back to life. Besides, if he had been left alive, there would've been no closer on his character since he hasn't fixed his life at all. He's pretty much been fighting for others for most of the series. |
| Nooo the shit tosser has died :( |
| I actually dropped 3 tears for this ending Goodbye Kurosawa, you fought well, now you can take a break from this battlefield life is. I will never forget you. |
| That was really brilliant, that analogy with the ant was simply superb. 9/10 Unexpected ending, but perfect. Fukumoto is a god among us .. Wait I take it back He's just more human than us. |
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| This was simply amazing...now I'm sad |
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| That ending was fantastic, but it left me feeling so emotional, my god, why did it have to be so sad. But either way, this was brilliant, Kurosawa is definitely going on my list of favorite characters, this was a great story and I'll probably start reading more of Fukumoto's works. I'm glad I read this manga, it really changed my perspectives on a lot of things. 9/10 |
| Loved it. Long live Kurosawa! |
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| The ending was superb and bumped the score up a bit for me. A ver uplifting tale about the human spirit. Kurosawa came a long way from the first chapter. Character development done right. It would have been silly to suddenly see him become successful or score with women with the limitations he had. But the way he went, that fit his personality well. |
FarabeufNov 18, 2014 7:41 AM
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| Well, it was an enjoyable experience, makes you think about how you spend your life and look at your past carefully. Overall it was great, but it lacked variety, the things seemed to repeat too much. Also, need to mention that there is a continuation for this manga: Shin Kurosawa(The New Kurosawa) - we find out that Kurosawa was actually in coma, not dead and so his adventures continue - looking forward to see how it turns out. In my opinion it's still below the Ten/Akagi in quality, but it's nice to see that author isn't only stuck in mahjong and can actually support multiple manga's at same time. |
| Amazing ending Since there is a continuation I suppose Kuro didn't die |
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| Read this while it was slow on the job and my co-workers asked me if I was ok... This ending hit me like a truck. 9/10 I definitely have to agree that if it ended any other way, it would have been too cheesy. |
| What a GLORIOUS fucking ride this was. Excellent writing, character development and some evergreen lessons about (the not so bright side of) life. Kurosawa is easily Fukumoto's best character and also one of the greatest I've ever "met" in any anime/manga. Loses a point because of the retarded "Detective Conan" part around chapter 50 (and I also had a few minor gripes about some not so lifelike situations in the early chapters), but aside from these, it was a worthwile read. 9/10 (And no, I don't need Shin Kurosawa...) |
JunchiMar 5, 2016 10:32 AM
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| holy shit this is so good, i'm still jealous of that lucky son of a bitch nakane though lol |
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GangsterCat said: Of the manga characters that haven't been in an anime, Nakane's one of my favourites (because Kurosawa technically has been in an anime).holy shit this is so good, i'm still jealous of that lucky son of a bitch nakane though lol |
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| Words aren´t enough to express how this succeeded to be one of the most emotional manga I ever witnessed. Word. |
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MikeBison said: Kaiji. Kurosawa has a cameo in the second opening, aha.Wiziliz said: Of the manga characters that haven't been in an anime, Nakane's one of my favourites (because Kurosawa technically has been in an anime). What anime are you talking about? |
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| Definitely one of the best manga I've ever read. |
| Oh man, you would not believe how hard I cried when I finished this chapter yesterday evening. That was a sad, but very beautiful way to end this legend of the strongest man, the one and only Kurosawa. The last chapter or two really summarized the central message very well, and his story is way too relatable. The metaphore with the ants was really fitting, and it really conveys the struggles he went through. And in the end, we will all celebrate the one ant who managed to hit the critical blow, even if it cost its life! As longs as we fight and we struggle and we give it our best, it will all be worth it! Because at the very least going out with a bang is all we can hope for. Success or defeat, it doesn't matter. Ah, I'm tearing up again. This manga certainly had some slower parts or one's that were pretty weird, but its charm never wore off and it never overstayed its welcome. For now I'll give it a 9/10. Kurosawa has earned his way in my favorites! |
| This story was too damn moving. Like Devilman: Crybaby it touched my heart as a story of how to live in an cruel, unfair, nihilistic world. Neither hide what life is like in idealism, things don't always work out for the better. No one is perfect. It may be weird to compare the two but the way they tell their story and the way they end are just so perfect at getting their message across. For Kurosawa's life to end after fighting a battle that could be seen as meaningless from afar for one single old lady he just met is perfection. If it ended in grandeur it would go against everything Kurosawa stood for. He didn't turn into a symbolic dragon during a fierce battle, he didn't even get to take part in the victory, he solely tried his hardest and inspired his allies. He didn't become a demon or a dragon, he became an ant. I've seen the ant panel constantly and I always assumed he would run into ants being crushed as if they were nothing and hold one up and ask, "am I as insignificant as an ant" and with that preconception, it made what it actually stood for far more moving. Through Kurosawa's life he learned to face reality and fight, to make sacrifices and live, and by doing so he ended up relating more with the admirable ant who makes a critical hit in a hopeless battle over his younger self. We are all ants in this world, there's no promise it will have a glorious ending. No promise we will succeed in anyway. And the only way we can hope to get by this cruel existence is by trying our darn hardest and fighting! If we do that we can at the very least go out doing all we could have done to win. We should respect everything fighting through life. That ant is darn admirable and if I can die an ant I'll be happy too. I'm amazed by this manga. It is so hard for me because I went back and forth on it. I found the beginning somewhat boring, I loved the Nakane arc more than anything, then I went back and forth constantly as we hit the Pro Wrestler, Attackers, and Hobo arc. Like Kurosawa said his life had no coherent plot, its messy narratively and Kurosawa was growing in ways he probably didn't even understand. But despite each individual part being harder to adore by itself like something such as Kaiji, as a whole the story of a man's misfortune leading to a rebirth, going from surviving to living and learning what to fight for is wonderful. Kurosawa was awesome and so human he was hard to get a read on but always absolutely relatable, rash, and unique. He was like the essence of his ideals but with huge human flaws what made him nearly leave these homeless for his own safety moments before their fight. He has slip ups constantly. On the flip side, Nakane and Ono are morally gray brothers for life, one's a sadistic and idealistic brat who nonetheless is fighting in his own way, the other is a angry brute, both which idealize Kurosawa's samurai nature. Asai was adorable and him chasing after Kurosawa will forever be one of my favorite manga moments, Sakaguchi was an everyday reliable badass with subdued respect for Kurosawa, and Akane was adorable. This whole cast may be centered around Kurosawa more than standing out on their own but I think they all did a good job. Even though I would argue the peaks were the rebirth of Kurosawa and the hobo war we just read, I would say the rest was awesome for making this manga feel as real as it did. It flowed, and it had constant lows and struggles. This is definitely a manga that embodies the whole is greater than the sum of its parts for me. As a reflection on how we ought to live through this existence and have meaningful lives, well I'd say only this and Crybaby touch it and both tackle very different but oddly similar aspects on my reading of them, especially empathy. Lastly, I want to note that I had predicted Kurosawa would see a montage of his good memories but Fukumoto would never be that cliche. NO HE MAKES ME SEE AN ANTS ADMIRABLE BATTLE. I wanted to give this an 8/10 but now I feel it may be a 9/10 and regardless I have to sit on it for awhile. If it stays in my mind and life influencing me it'll be a 9 for sure. My singular serious problem was how out of character Kurosawa's quick thinking intellect came from, especially in his battle of Okehazama. Edit: I wanted to update this post to say over time this series has impacted my life in such a meaningful way that I've rated this 10/10. I can't separate what it means to be alive from what this text suggests anymore and it's measurably made my life better. Even though I had small qualms with it on my first read, they are water drops in the ocean now. |
gfsdfgsdgsdfgsNov 28, 2019 7:55 AM
| Initially was going to give this a 5/10 as i did not find Kurosawa to be relatable character, but this final arc bumped it to 7/10 - it was touching and somewhat inspiring. |
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| Hands down greatest manga I've ever read. It was so fun and sad at the same time. Ending was fantastic. Well done Kurosawa. |
| Years later and the ending is still beyond fantastic |
| That was extremely emotional, I'm not disappointed at all, Fukumoto's writing is really excellent to the point that it's clearly one of the best things I've read and I can say the same with his other works, I should have expected this kind of ending but damn, this is so sad, masterpiece overall. |
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Amazing ending
Since there is a continuation I suppose Kuro didn't die
Since there is a continuation I suppose Kuro didn't die
Tanma said: Since there is a continuation I suppose Kuro didn't die At first I thought it was a prequel story of Kurosawa's life, but it looks like he was actually alive and after the battle he was knocked into a coma for 8 years. Knowing that ruined my enjoyment of this ending a little bit to be honest. |
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