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| Serious plot holes in this episode. I mean cmon you spent your fortune on reuilding a frickn boat that you were on before (not to mention almost died on it) just to invite 11 other people and have them killed? If Ned was the hunting dog all along, why would he play the victim at first and later claim he is the hunting dog? Why the hell did Julie not narrow the suspects down to blonde haired males instead if she wanted revenge (the exception would be Maurice)? Seriously she killed 7 people. Why would Ned board the ship and act ad the hunting dog when he's the frigging victim with no one ordering him around to stir confusion with the hares? How'd he know that a tennis ball placed under armpit would stop his pulse? Did he plan it? On second thought, I think it showed him being the same person as the one ten years ago doing the same tennis ball trick. If he did then he must have been faking being a victim but if that were true then Julie and him would hav to b working together to arrange such a plan. |
RezurrektFeb 15, 2011 10:15 PM
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DesolateOne said: Serious plot holes in this episode. I mean cmon you spent your fortune on reuilding a frickn boat that you were on before (not to mention almost died on it) just to invite 11 other people and have them killed? If Ned was the hunting dog all along, why would he play the victim at first and later claim he is the hunting dog? Why the hell did Julie not narrow the suspects down to blonde haired males instead if she wanted revenge (the exception would be Maurice)? Seriously she killed 7 people. Why would Ned board the ship and act ad the hunting dog when he's the frigging victim with no one ordering him around to stir confusion with the hares? How'd he know that a tennis ball placed under armpit would stop his pulse? Did he plan it? If he did then he must have been faking being a victim but if that were true then Julie and him would hav to b working together to arrange such a plan. you're not watching hard enough my friend. the only plot hole you can see here should be the expanded explanation unto the recreation of the box. other than that it's all simple. ^^ so Julie recreated the box using the money "they" gave the hares to get revenge. (being killed by the same system you use and with the money you produced) she sent letters to all those responsible (including Ned), but unexpectedly, Roxane is dead, and Victorica and Kujo takes her place. (that's why Julie is looking out for them because they're not supposed to be there). So basically one died of a trap, 6 escaped ang got eaten by the sea, but before they died, Julie made it clear that this is the box "Queen Berry" with her wall scribbles. So basically we have 2 persons responsible left, Ned who is not stupid enough to throw himself at the raging sea and Maurice who Ned stopped because he's the one Ned is the closest to (based on the flashback) Maurice told the story of the Queen Berry (with lies of course, but the fact that the Queen Berry have children murdered each other on board is a fact). Maurice is killed by Julie herself because she lose to insanity with the fact that he's afraid because one of them, Julie and Ned(he couldn't recognized Ned as Huey because of how much he changed as well as Julie) could be the hares that survived and set them up in that replica Queen Berry to get revenge. Well all we have left is Ned, now the fact that the secret of the Queen Berry has been put in mind of the people who are not suppose to know, he resume his acts as a Hunting Dog, to put them to rest and to prevent the secret of the Queen Berry from leaking. With the use of his act, he tried to take them down surprisingly, but unexpectedly, Victorica found out that it was a trick because of the tennis ball he was playing with ( try it it's real ^^) with that plan failed, he just rampaged through them and the main reason why he's so much focused unto the Victorica is because she have shown intelligence (in episode 2 as well as discovering his trick with the tennis ball) that could crack the real secrets of the Queen Berry and he does not recognized Julie as one of the hares either because she just threw her out in the deck instead of killing her first) and thus, Julie managed to kill the last person responsible on the deck, Huey. ^^ |
AmberFebruaryFeb 15, 2011 10:41 PM
| Simplistic beauty can't be appreciated by someone who looks for something grand in everything he watch. |
Stringed said: It's a shame yuri fans aren't half as overactive as yaoi fans. There would be Julie/Lee art if they had been guys =<. and that's exactly why everyone HATES yaoi fangirls... Anyways, I thought it was an interesting arc, but I am hoping for a better mystery next time |
AmberFebruary said: DesolateOne said: Serious plot holes in this episode. I mean cmon you spent your fortune on reuilding a frickn boat that you were on before (not to mention almost died on it) just to invite 11 other people and have them killed? If Ned was the hunting dog all along, why would he play the victim at first and later claim he is the hunting dog? Why the hell did Julie not narrow the suspects down to blonde haired males instead if she wanted revenge (the exception would be Maurice)? Seriously she killed 7 people. Why would Ned board the ship and act ad the hunting dog when he's the frigging victim with no one ordering him around to stir confusion with the hares? How'd he know that a tennis ball placed under armpit would stop his pulse? Did he plan it? If he did then he must have been faking being a victim but if that were true then Julie and him would hav to b working together to arrange such a plan. you're not watching hard enough my friend. the only plot hole you can see here should be the expanded explanation unto the recreation of the box. other than that it's all simple. ^^ so Julie recreated the box using the money "they" gave the hares to get revenge. (being killed by the same system you use and with the money you produced) she sent letters to all those responsible (including Ned), but unexpectedly, Roxane is dead, and Victorica and Kujo takes her place. (that's why Julie is looking out for them because they're not supposed to be there). So basically one died of a trap, 6 escaped ang got eaten by the sea, but before they died, Julie made it clear that this is the box "Queen Berry" with her wall scribbles. So basically we have 2 persons responsible left, Ned who is not stupid enough to throw himself at the raging sea and Maurice who Ned stopped because he's the one Ned is the closest to (based on the flashback) Maurice told the story of the Queen Berry (with lies of course, but the fact that the Queen Berry have children murdered each other on board is a fact). Maurice is killed by Julie herself because she lose to insanity with the fact that he's afraid because one of them, Julie and Ned(he couldn't recognized Ned as Huey because of how much he changed as well as Julie) could be the hares that survived and set them up in that replica Queen Berry to get revenge. Well all we have left is Ned, now the fact that the secret of the Queen Berry has been put in mind of the people who are not suppose to know, he resume his acts as a Hunting Dog, to put them to rest and to prevent the secret of the Queen Berry from leaking. With the use of his act, he tried to take them down surprisingly, but unexpectedly, Victorica found out that it was a trick because of the tennis ball he was playing with ( try it it's real ^^) with that plan failed, he just rampaged through them and the main reason why he's so much focused unto the Victorica is because she have shown intelligence (in episode 2 as well as discovering his trick with the tennis ball) that could crack the real secrets of the Queen Berry and he does not recognized Julie as one of the hares either because she just threw her out in the deck instead of killing her first) and thus, Julie managed to kill the last person responsible on the deck, Huey. ^^ thanks for the summary. Made it much more clear for me ^^ |
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| Oh, WWII. ^_^; Lol at adding in thjat extra country. But God, this show is so sexist... "she's a girl"? .___. |
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heidurzo said: Anybody else notice that Kujo looked for a pulse wrong, your supposed to do it with a finger not a thumb. When people checked my pulse, they always did it with a thumb o_o |
ThatFreak said: heidurzo said: Anybody else notice that Kujo looked for a pulse wrong, your supposed to do it with a finger not a thumb. When people checked my pulse, they always did it with a thumb o_o Then they did it wrong too. But it was discussed earlier. |
Mockman said: Baw. The whole human race that knows me was wrong. Maybe there's multiple ways of doing it? |
| Guess I will stop my opinion about she being a human incarnation of Shinku( just like Pinokio case) Anyway, return to Gosick. Pretty much to respect from Kujo. My silly brain keep thinking of romance possibility throughout the episode so far. Now it's getting clear that every of her acts were done intentionally. |
| There is like 2 weeks delay in my recent reading list I randomly bought discount/second hand manga with cute/mysterious cover.  Use Personal Blacklist extension in Chrome if you just want to Google for a series synopsis, without google slapping MAL score in it. 3/1 |
| Love this anime. |
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
| Liking it so far, nice to see something decent finally. Although I must say, all "mysteries" so far were utterly trivial, at least the general outlining. I've thought about the maid the second they showed that fortuneteller was shot sitting right opposite the door and it was pretty much obvious that the green haired lady was leading everyone in to something. But than again, maybe Deathnote spoiled me. Apart from that, nice to see a male character who does not bleed all the time from unnatural places and not a wimp as a bonus. Also Vici looks kinda retarded with the water pipe. And she is still Shinku every single moment she keeps her mouth shut. |
| The plot about killing each other reminds me of battle royale.. I see so many reference in this anime "D |
heidurzo said: Anybody else notice that Kujo looked for a pulse wrong, your supposed to do it with a finger not a thumb. Yea. |
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| That's refreshing a main who looks weak but isn't weak, at last. I'm still a bit confused, so Julie was the culprit so why did she kill Ned? I mean weren't they together in that? ~Or she was trying to get revenge on him too? |
K-ShuunJul 17, 2011 6:32 PM
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| Wow I got 999 vibes from watching this arc. Makes me wanna complete the game a second time around. |
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| victoria is probably one of my new fav characters now. its kinda sad though how she being held up like a cative princess, maybe thats what the story will focus on later, kujo vs the duke. |
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SeventhMist said: Wow I got 999 vibes from watching this arc. Makes me wanna complete the game a second time around. Glad someone thinking the same thing~ That's it. Kujo is a wimp, talking about pride being the 3rd son of an imperial soldier and what not really pissed me off. He kinda reminded me of Emiya Shirou from Fate/Stay Night due to their behavior to state obvious things. "People died if they're killed" -- Worst line ever =X |
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| victorique.. is 1/4 tsundere and 3/4 cool & honest.. ;D i like her.. she kinda reminds me of shinkuu of rosen maiden and beatrice of umineko.. yappari, the girl in red dress is the culprit, but i didn't think that the guy was too.. soshite, nice last lines~ :D |
inn0centdem0nDec 13, 2011 10:52 AM
| Aw, Kujo's awesome. I was expecting the girl to be the culprit but the guy kinda surprised me. Um, I know that no one cares about this stuff but some things that bothered me xD They didn't name all the Allies. They missed 2 (well, 3, but people always ignore Montenegro for some reason) If they were getting kids to represent each nation involved in WWI, what exactly was up with the Arabic girl? Why is Victorique wearing those kinds of outfits? It's 1924.. :/ I'm used to historical inaccuracy in anime, but still |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
| I love lolis and this doesn't help remedy that "problem", if some of you address it that way. |
| Well that woman was suspicious all along but the explanations were well done. |
| Though Julie was the culprit, she was really pretty though, and really nice. She even helped Victorique get her necklace before. Victorique, well done. Certified detective xD Too many Kujo x Victorique moments~ <3 |
| I knew it! I guessed it was Julie from the start. And I guessed the maid was the girl from ten years before when Lee gave the necklace to Julie. Hahahahahaha. Even if they are 'criminals' now, I think they are both pretty awesome. The original Queen Berry organizers are idiots. Shame on them. |
| These faces are so cute that I might just leave them here (#`Д´)´∀`)･ω･) ﾟДﾟ)ﾟ∀ﾟ)･∀･)￣ｰ￣)´_ゝ`) |
| i am really starting to like this, another great episode. |
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| Meh. Dropped. |
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| hahahaha! Kujo's face was all scraped up! |
| So the Inspector was her brother huh? Nice episode. |
| "If you can eliminate all the other choices, the remaining choice, no matter how improbable, it is the answer."- Sherlock Holmes |
| Victorique is so cute. The romance between the two is the best part. The mysteries are...okay so far. The punches where well animated |
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| I am now officially in love with this show ! ^ ^ I'm so glad I dropped that drivel Date-a-Live to randomly stumble upon this. |
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| I liked this episode. There was a lot going on. Cute moments between the characters, fights and stuff like that. I liked the end and all the cheesy and cute stuff that happened like Julie throwing the necklace to her friend and Victorique falling asleep. |
| I like the art and animation so far, they're fitting the theme of the show and I also liked the brawl scene, it was quite amazing and the bruises on Kuujo's face were hilarious. But I don't like the flow that the relationship between them has, too rushed. I also didn't like this mistery, it felt unoriginal and unrealistic. It is true that you can shut the pulse on your wrist by play with a tennis ball? I don't think that's true.. And then how could he be sure that those guys would have not double-checked elsewhere, or simply turn him up? Again, there were too much things that could throw all the plan in the trash, but yet due to plot conveniences it all went magically. Mm, I hope this will improve on this side. Victorique is so cute, it's not the Tsundere she wants to make us believe. |
| It seems to be a really good show. I'm really enjoying it. Thanks God, there is no stupid humour in this series. Very nice main characters, I like them both (it is really very rare for me). Victorique is damn cute. |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| So I was right after all. The woman in red is the culprit. |
"I have been wielding a blade since before your were swimming around your father's scrotum." - Kurou |
| I normally hate tsundere type characters... but my goodness Victorique is ADORABLE. She's only got some of the elements of the tsundere while retaining features that make her... normal. Like "falling asleep" on Kujo at the end of the episode. A REAL TSUN WOULDN'T DO THAT. This is an awesome series so far. |
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| Well, it didn't go exactly as I thought but the girl was indeed the culprit. Too much thing was leading to her. It was funny when Victorique got out of her character when she saw Kujo xD She had some cute moment :3 It was a nice use of the environment from Kujo when he waited for a direct punch at his face to evade it. Slammed his fist right onto the hard floor :) That was so smooth at the end too. Careful Kujo, you'll wet the lady (if you could stop talking with an eleven years old voice...). |
| «Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.» - Kurisu Makise a.k.a. The Zombie |
| ahhh the conspiracy |
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| I highly doubt that I'll be able to finish something as horrible as this |
| A good episode. Kujo really is fighting to be better |
| I love everyone and everything in this |
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| I love the ED. Thought the girl was too obvious, but it was still nice to watch. Brass knuckles ftw. |
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| OK episode, but still...... If you knew he was faking his pulse, why don't you just call him out or bash him right there before he can try anything instead of running, trapping yourself in a room, waiting for him to catch up to you with an axe? And the lady should have been able to tell easily, having seen him do the exact same thing 10 years prior in the exact same way, and knowing that he survived and that he was from England and about the same age as her, she should have at least theorized that they were the same person. Basically all he did was change his name from Huey to Ned. How did the guy get out of the room after being barricaded in? He would have to smash the door with enough force to snap the axe which was used to lock the door, yet it was perfectly fine when he returned. |
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