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phantomfandom said: Tsarko said: Vinland Saga started in a shounen magazine before switching to seinen one half a year later. That might explain, it's a little bit sad that author's creativity is controled by demographic target of publisher. It happens everywhere around the world but the clash between author and editor is more prominent in Japan where all entertainment form is in business systematic. To be fair it works in both ways, Cell saga from Dragon Ball was editor idea if not we could have only Android 20 and 19. |
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| Thorfinn is a secret Naruto fan. Askeladd trolling the creepy general was hilarious. |
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| so now we get to the adapting of the first chapter or something...okay then let's see how it goes |
| Don't believe the hype. |
| Another great episode. I liked the POV where thorfinn is cutting down soldiers. |
| Wow, i didnt know vikings used to do naruto running. Wasnt aware just how old that series was. |
| This adaptation keeps delivering on every front. I even kind of liked some of the CGI scenes, as crazy as that sounds. |
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| Something was weird about this episode... It felt more 'outlandish' than the rest, is probably how I would describe it. I know this show threw out any notions of realism long ago (and that's fine), but this episode took it to a new level with that cartoonish, caricature of a lord/general, Thorfinn Naruto running, Thorfinn soloing like fifteen men, and the boat carrying scene. I wouldn't say I disliked this episode, but it was probably the one I liked the least. |
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Daemon said: Something was weird about this episode... It felt more 'outlandish' than the rest, is probably how I would describe it. I know this show threw out any notions of realism long ago (and that's fine), but this episode took it to a new level with that cartoonish, caricature of a lord/general, Thorfinn Naruto running, Thorfinn soloing like fifteen men, and the boat carrying scene. I wouldn't say I disliked this episode, but it was probably the one I liked the least. As much as this was already pointed out multiple times in this thread, I'll point it out anyways. The manga starts out as Shonen, then changes to Seinen later on. Since this covers chapter 1, it's no surprise that it would be different. |
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| Excellent episode just stick with the source material, hopefully they will keep it this way... |
| Thorfinn just did the Naruto run so i guess he too will storm area 51 |
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| Askeladd is becoming my favorite character...at least for now |
| Pretty great episode, Askeladd and Thorfinn some GOATs lmaoooo |
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| great episode 10/10 |
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| Great episode. Thorfinn is badass and Askellad is hilarious. Overall its a nice setup for upcoming arc. To the next episode |
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Elucid said: Daemon said: ... As much as this was already pointed out multiple times in this thread, I'll point it out anyways. The manga starts out as Shonen, then changes to Seinen later on. Since this covers chapter 1, it's no surprise that it would be different. Were the parts with Thors doing funny stuff from the shounen period too? |
| This episode was kinda refreshing after last weeks, had some good laughs here n there too. I get why it seemed shounen-y considering that it was like the first(?) chapter in the series or something before it switched to seinen but I thought it did well with what it had. |
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Pig_on_the_knee said: Elucid said: As much as this was already pointed out multiple times in this thread, I'll point it out anyways. The manga starts out as Shonen, then changes to Seinen later on. Since this covers chapter 1, it's no surprise that it would be different. Were the parts with Thors doing funny stuff from the shounen period too? Most likely, that was from one of the first volumes. |
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ziad1419 said: Farabeuf said: Finally chapter one gets it adaptation. We get to see Thorfinn in his badass glory. A shame that the CGI with the ships looked so poor at the end. Ep was so good I don't know why you don't like it Did you read what I wrote? Please point out to me where I wrote I didn't like the episode? I just wrote that the CGI with the ship scenes looked poor. |
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Farabeuf said: Did you read what I wrote? Please point out to me where I wrote I didn't like the episode? I just wrote that the CGI with the ship scenes looked poor. Oh, were you referring to when after Askeladd's gang went past the pass? |
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| I didn't really notice it the last time, but the animation quality's definitely taken a dip this week. I can't fucking stand huge, faceless CGI armies in neutral daytime lighting. It's objectively the least interesting thing in the world to stare at. The first person shots looked pretty good though. Askeladd is still the best character, the absolute madladd. I'm gonna miss Thorfinn's old voice actor, but I guess the new guy will grow on me eventually. |
| Okay, after reading the rest of this thread, now I kinda get why this episode looked so shite compared to the last ones, cause they're adapting it out of order, so bits of it are gonna be switching between Shounen-Vinland Saga and Seinen-Vinland Saga, and this episode was Shounen chapter 1. That's why they did a slow reveal of Thorfinn as if we'd never seen him before, despite knowing exactly what he looks like, and that's why the French army was lead by a fucking frog. Were the guys at Wit not allowed to make any changes when adapting this? If it were me I would have re-wrote that whole chapter to blend better with what they'd already made. That's the beauty of an adaptation, you can change shit you don't like! Unless... they weren't allowed to, I guess? |
| This just keeps getting better and better. Thorfinn destroying the battlefield as a child is one of my favourite things; it'll be sad to see people just treat him as a monster as an adult rather than a monster that's also a child xD |
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| Really don't get the complaints about the animation (besides the CGI since that's historically something most people don't like). I think this is still one of the best looking shows of the year so far. |
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| Mmh it was an OK episode. Too much CGI for my likings tho and the drop in animation quality was even more noticeable this episode. It felt quite weird in comparison to the other episodes. I miss the atmosphere of the first 4/5 episodes Gotta drop my score to 8 |
XenocrisiAug 19, 2019 2:23 AM
| Damn Im loving this |
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| Chapter 1: Going back to the beginning of the new Shounen in its infancy! With how Wit Studio and the staff giving it a new life, I'd say it's still an impressive episode. It's funny thinking that Thorfinn wanted someone who can speak Norse, but the anime just translated the same EXACT words (with translation) on the background. Obviously Norse language will be a doozy to speak for the VAs and I appreciate the thought of excluding it for the sake of people. Like come on, would anyone be good to pull off speaking Norse language in the modern day. A head with a helmet, that's Thorfinn's target. No doubt in mind. The Frank fatass commander is just too useless, while Askeladd reaped the rewards. Not forgetting Thorfinn, whose revenge still stands after his actions, but due to the circumstances, I'd say I had a good laugh after another postponement. Askeladd sure know when to create rifts, cunning, scammer yet humorous general. |
KANLen09Aug 19, 2019 3:06 AM
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| I feel bad for those armies inside the fort. But ofcourse old Thorfinn looks cool, and I'm starting to like Askellad here. And that Naruto run, I love it. |
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thekillfra said:  take the first 4 episodes, and compare them with the last two, if this had been the first episode (as it should have been), there would not be all these people defending the technical part. And they also changed dialogues, that quote on "all those people I killed in these years bla bla bla" is stupid because this is not their first duel. Thorfinn is timid in the anime compared to manga - he's pretty scary and always on egde there. |
Pig_on_the_knee said: Elucid said: As much as this was already pointed out multiple times in this thread, I'll point it out anyways. The manga starts out as Shonen, then changes to Seinen later on. Since this covers chapter 1, it's no surprise that it would be different. Were the parts with Thors doing funny stuff from the shounen period too? The humour dont leave the series when it becomes seinen, but there wont be much humour in the prologue arc(what the anime will cover),and the manga wasnt published as a shounen for too long, it switched right after thorfinn orin story flashback. Last week's episode was the first seinen chapter if i remenber correctly. |
Tougen said: The humour dont leave the series when it becomes seinen, but there wont be much humour in the prologue arc(what the anime will cover),and the manga wasnt published as a shounen for too long, it switched right after thorfinn orin story flashback. Last week's episode was the first seinen chapter if i remenber correctly. By "funny" I meant the dumb superhero stuff he does. As in people are dismissing the ridiculous stuff from this episode with "Oh, this is the shounen part", but the series has been like that from the beginning. Excuse me. |
Pig_on_the_kneeAug 19, 2019 3:49 AM
| So now we're where it should've started. Wish this had been the first episode, things would've been more interesting that way imo. That guy in the red cloak looked like someone out of a Ghibli movie with his big mouth. Also nice Naruto run Throrfinn, you've trained well in the ninja arts i see. |
Edylson said: Rowan_F said: Okay, after reading the rest of this thread, now I kinda get why this episode looked so shite compared to the last ones, cause they're adapting it out of order, so bits of it are gonna be switching between Shounen-Vinland Saga and Seinen-Vinland Saga, and this episode was Shounen chapter 1. That's why they did a slow reveal of Thorfinn as if we'd never seen him before, despite knowing exactly what he looks like, and that's why the French army was lead by a fucking frog. Were the guys at Wit not allowed to make any changes when adapting this? If it were me I would have re-wrote that whole chapter to blend better with what they'd already made. That's the beauty of an adaptation, you can change shit you don't like! Unless... they weren't allowed to, I guess? That has nothing to do with anything, if the manga started in a chronological order people wouldn't complain, aside from the CG the animation has been good, this is the exact same thing that happened with Promised Neverland and Aot, Manga readers don't want adaptations, they want copy/paste!! Its the classic "this wasn't like in the manga, therefore its bad and i won't accept it", thank god im an anime only I didn't mean that making changes in an adaptation is a bad thing. I actually agree with you in that I hate the attitude of "this wasn't like in the manga, therefore its bad and i won't accept it". I'm worried that the anime didn't change enough. I'm an anime-only guy as well, so I've been getting all my info off what other people have already said in this thread. My biggest problem seems to come from the tone difference between the shounen part of the story and the seinen, leading to the anime staff not making the changes they probably should have that would've made the adaptation flow a lot better. |
| Great episode as usual Wit Studio CGI still bugs me a little sometimes but it's quite good and is, by far, the best this season (alongside with Mo Dao Zu Shi 2's) I like how the anime used the same trick as vikings really did (carrying the ships over the land to reach another water spot) IRL in a battle against the Franks The only con of this episode was the Frank leader, who was really annoying and felt totally out of place Vinland Saga is a really serious anime so I don't like that much seeing a burlesque - comic relief in it, I hope it'll be the only one |
| People asking where Vinland Saga changed style, and for me is not when the publication goes to seinen magazine. The story change drasticaly after chapter 1, I think that the first chapter (that was adapted in this episode) was like a bait for shounen fans. Animation quality is pretty consistent, but in some moments CGI seems weird (mainly when showing the soldiers from above). Probably they used more CGI because the art of the first manga chapter were more simple. |
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| I think I prefer shallow fun Vinland Saga though. |
| Are the wars based on real wars? because I think I have read before about something like this. not sure which part though XD |
She should not be shocked at this point lol
deafnote said: askeladd coming through on a flying ship is the coolest thing i've seen this decade i swear, this episode seemed to last five minutes. that's the usual case though i thought the action scenes were very stylish as well, but i get why there are some complaints so far, this show has gotten so many things right that it's earned a few passes from me counting down the seconds until next week's episode I also loved the boat charge scene although I find it utterly ridiculous and completely bullshit. Oh Anime, never change. |
| This episode had more of a shounen feel to it, but it still worked really well. There was plenty of moments that did make me laugh quite a bit, too. =) Part of that laughter was down to the short French general, who looked like a human version of Jabba the Hut. Whenever he complained or laughed, he would open up his mouth so wide that you could stuff an entire human in there. XD The other memorable moments was Askeladd's crew charging into battle.......while carrying their boats. They're so crazy, but I couldn't help but laugh and enjoy their crazy antics like that. Thorfinn was a badass, though. Aside from his Naruto-style running early on in the episode, his battle style is already really lethal and he was ballsy enough to use his twin daggers on latch onto the enemy wall and climbed up them with no issues at all. What a mad lad! The biggest laugh came when Askeladd's crew took all the treasure and when the french general complained, Askeladd's crew turned up to show their stolen treasure with some VERY smug grins. Then they high-tailed it down the river and the waterfall, full-on YOLO style that also had me laughing again. Even Askeladd was laughing and cheering like a kid through it all! ^_^ So, aside from some CG use being half good and half bad, this episode was great. It was a lot more amusing than I thought it would be, but I wouldn't be surprised if the next episode got back to being more serious again. |
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