Anyone else tired of people treating Japanese voice actors like gods?

I've seen some pretty good English dubs. And I would even go as far as saying that some anime sound better in dub. But I haven't really noticed issues as far as people praising Japanese voice actors. Unless there has been some harassment of some of them that I don't know about.

I once saw someone say that JP seiyuus are quite overpaid compared to the staff that worked animating the show.

This high salary is mostly because they are treated as stars, and the more popular the seiyuu, the more money they get.

I wasn’t the one who said that, I’m just mentioning what I saw someone write once.

I recommend Rec if you wanna learn how hard it is being a VA in Japan is. It’s an extremely competitive industry.

Honestly, no. Maybe i just don't get what you mean by that but an average voice actor in japan is, quite frankly, waaaay better than US or any other dub there is. They do deserve the recognition for their hard work.

I'm tired of the anti-sub bashing conducted by the dub elitists who keep on creating threads like these as their only means to self-validate their preference upon the established conclusion that anime, indeed, sound better in Japanese than English.

Preferring Japanese over English is not a form of worship. It's the result of high quality home product that is basically impossible to replicate from outside the archipelago. There's a reason why anime is so popular globally and it is not just about the story and animation. Sound design and voice acting is also a great asset of anime that brought its success.

Now, dubs aren't always all that bad, but that's not the point here. There is a reason why Japanese seiyuu's performance are considered excellent by many of us. Taking time analyzing certain voice acting performances, there's an impressive amount of effort put into each lines and there are voice pinchs that enhance certain scenes that we aren't used to hear in foreign media. Not to mention certain wordplay and everything extra that get lost in the localization such as keigo and honorific.

Every aspect of an anime is important for the final result. Altering the product with dubs will never turn the anime better. It can only makes it worse or, at the limit, comparable if the dubs is good and faithful enough.

@haerina It means by the way they're looked and that treating them like gods is weird to me.

I'm tired of people basically treating celebrities like extreme simps. Especially female ones, because people tend to devalue the real efforts of female creators by either liking them for their looks or being hyper-fixated on their gender. For example, Nana Ozaki was forced to completely focus her career on the grotesque token lesbian image and business yuri fanservice for several years because after coming out as bisexual, people could no longer perceive her as anything outside of the horny ikemen onna image. Or Aimin, who seems to be the reason Bushi's franchises fandom is overflowing with memelords who can make 5-6 jokes about her harem in one minute.

@RobertBobert pretty much agreed with this, i swear if i hear someone say "rei takahashi is the ONLY REASON why i do x, watch y or play z" again i'll probably go crazy.

I'm tired of the anti-sub bashing conducted by the dub elitists who keep on creating threads like these as their only means to self-validate their preference upon the established conclusion that anime, indeed, sound better in Japanese than English.

Preferring Japanese over English is not a form of worship. It's the result of high quality home product that is basically impossible to replicate from outside the archipelago. There's a reason why anime is so popular globally and it is not just about the story and animation. Sound design and voice acting is also a great asset of anime that brought its success.

Now, dubs aren't always all that bad, but that's not the point here. There is a reason why Japanese seiyuu's performance are considered excellent by many of us. Taking time analyzing certain voice acting performances, there's an impressive amount of effort put into each lines and there are voice pinchs that enhance certain scenes that we aren't used to hear in foreign media. Not to mention certain wordplay and everything extra that get lost in the localization such as keigo and honorific.

Every aspect of an anime is important for the final result. Altering the product with dubs will never turn the anime better. It can only makes it worse or, at the limit, comparable if the dubs is good and faithful enough.

You got any proofs that people worship seiyuus as God? Pic or never happened

That's a nice argument Senator. Why don't you back it up with a source?

I will never understand how the English dub for video games sound very professional while anime English dub more often than not sounds soulless. It's like the voice actors don't get paid enough to do their job. Either that or dubbing companies look for new talents who pay less than, you know, "professionals"?

I'm tired of the act of putting anything on a pedestal. For example, there has been an increase in people telling other people to appreciate animation simply because of the hard work put into it. As if animators are immune to criticism because their work is hard. Now that is putting something on a pedestal.

Tbh I'll never stop laughing at the fact that people act like English VAs are all absolutely shit when like 95% of Japanese VAs also have their own brand of monotonous, cringe ass NPC sound.