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| Why the fuck do you care about others' ratings? You say rating something 10 because someone enjoys it is wrong, then technically you giving dog shit scores is also wrong in someone else's eyes. Also, who are you to decide how many 10's and how many low rated anime should be n your list? No, I don't agree with your point. It's stupid and pointless. |
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| Why do you care about the MAL ratings? You can watch what you like without caring about the ratings. I have rated many of the top rated anime a low score(JJK,MHA) because they weren't as good as their ratings. So I stopped trusting the MAL ratings. People can have as many 10s as they like but a true masterpiece doesn't exist. So I don't like to use the 10/10 score. |
MantronMar 21, 2022 4:25 AM
DeonX said: Why the fuck do you care about others' ratings? You say rating something 10 because someone enjoys it is wrong, then technically you giving dog shit scores is also wrong in someone else's eyes. Also, who are you to decide how many 10's and how many low rated anime should be n your list? No, I don't agree with your point. It's stupid and pointless. Very good opinion. Everyone here uses different rating systems / rates on different criteria too. As long as you're content with your own scoring system, you shouldn't really care about others. :) |
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herofelix77 said: Imo there arent supposed to be more than 3 10s in your list. If you have only watched less than 100 anime then probably yes. 1% is perhaps a fair percentage of "masterpieces". |
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| It's true that scores are inflated due to many reasons, but I like to try to understand these reasons instead of dismissing everything as "scores are random numbers and don't matter". This is not for sheer curiosity, but for better recommendations. For example, an iyashikei anime rated 7.6x and completed by less than 20k users is far more impressive than the latest popular battle shounen rated above 8.5x. Regarding the "correct" amount of 10s, I agree I might have too many of them, but I like to spread out my scores and I think it's fine as long as 10 is your rarest score. |
| Honestly, some people don't even care about rating or trying to critically analyse an anime to rate it fairly. They just want to watch anime and enjoy it, therefore rating it high and there is nothing wrong with that in the slightest. If you think it's inflated, what are you going to do about it. Is is to much to ask to let other people rate and watch anime however they want to?? |
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| Having a ton of highly rated shows from 8 to 10 has other problems. People who rate too many stuff highly don’t have specified tastes and that, they like almost everything they watch which in turn shows that their taste is not specific. That’s the problem. |
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| Complains about other people's scores, gives SnK a 9 and HoTD a 7...seems about right |
| What a coincidence, just had a lesson about behavioural economics and this links closely with certain aspects of that. I guess priming and anchoring is part of it, if a popular show already has a good score, and you also enjoy it, you would be tempted to give it a score around that benchmark cos an idea is automatically put into your head. However if this anime were actually rated much lower, you most likely would’ve been led to giving it a much lower score. I would use examples but I don’t wanna cause any controversy here. |
| Who the hell are you, trying to control my anime list |
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herofelix77 said: Thank you for your opinion. But like.... if you think that, why not adjust your standards? It's not like you're stupid enough to be getting tricked every time by a 6.XX that you expected to be good, right?Im just annoyed how MAL user rate their shows. 5 is supposed to be average but nowdays if a show has a 6.xx infront of it it seems to be dogshit what obviously isnt true. And many user just rate everything they like a 10. There cant be only masterpieces. Imo there arent supposed to be more than 3 10s in your list. Another problem is that popupar shows have automatically better ratings like SAO or Kakegurui even though they suck (well thats my opinion as well). Do you agree with my point? As long as you change your current worldview, I'm sure you can come to terms with this oh so great issue that is MAL's inflated ratings. tldr; bruh just fckin deal with it lmao |
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herofelix77 said: Im just annoyed how MAL user rate their shows. 5 is supposed to be average but nowdays if a show has a 6.xx infront of it it seems to be dogshit what obviously isnt true. And many user just rate everything they like a 10. There cant be only masterpieces. Imo there arent supposed to be more than 3 10s in your list. Another problem is that popupar shows have automatically better ratings like SAO or Kakegurui even though they suck (well thats my opinion as well). Do you agree with my point? Supp, elitist wannabee. Thank you for sharing something that nobody really cares of, but enjoy the temporary attention, anyway. |
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Uji_Gintoki_Bowl said: It's more the other way around. I'm not tricked into thinking that a show rated 8.x is any good. This is in particular true for recent ones, which get a really high hype bonus.herofelix77 said: It's not like you're stupid enough to be getting tricked every time by a 6.XX that you expected to be good, right?Im just annoyed how MAL user rate their shows. 5 is supposed to be average but nowdays if a show has a 6.xx infront of it it seems to be dogshit what obviously isnt true. |
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Nirinbo said: It's true that scores are inflated due to many reasons, but I like to try to understand these reasons instead of dismissing everything as "scores are random numbers and don't matter". This is not for sheer curiosity, but for better recommendations. For example, an iyashikei anime rated 7.6x and completed by less than 20k users is far more impressive than the latest popular battle shounen rated above 8.5x. I agree with your approach and reasoning, and would like to elaborate on how I do it. I use your method on older time periods rather than relatively obscure genres: e.g., a ~7.50 show from the '90s/'80s/older, with <20,000~ish people, will probably be equal to an ~8.20~8.40 for the hottest seasonals/shounens/etc. If I can't change the system, I might as well try to learn how it works. Having said this, I usually pick based on premise and synopsis lol. |
BurningCarnationMar 21, 2022 4:58 AM
| Not much that can be done at this point, use other anime sites for more accurate ratings, like AniDB. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| MAL ratings are deflated and can't be taken seriously. I'm just annoyed at how the MAL userbase rates shows. A number of genuinely good shows get rated at just 7.XX or even lower like 6.XX and such. Meanwhile, stuff gets high-rated just because it's popular or it's hip to rate a thing high and so everyone just bandwagons onto saying it's oh-so-great, aside from the times when it's popular to hate on stuff and those shows get rating-bombed instead. Do you agree with my point? [/imitation of OP] Okay, serious answer: don't take the rating to be some sort of measure of the quality of a show. It really is just a popularity contest and not much else. |
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| Yet your mean score is +6; you don't have the right to talk. FurySlasher said: What a coincidence, just had a lesson about behavioural economics and this links closely with certain aspects of that. I guess priming and anchoring is part of it, if a popular show already has a good score, and you also enjoy it, you would be tempted to give it a score around that benchmark cos an idea is automatically put into your head. However if this anime were actually rated much lower, you most likely would’ve been led to giving it a much lower score. I would use examples but I don’t wanna cause any controversy here. Sounds like "peer pressure". LostSpectre said: Not much that can be done at this point, use other anime sites for more accurate ratings, like AniDB. Agree. I recommened AniDB for recommendations. Not only because scores, but because of tags and similar anime system which incorporates user voting/downvoiting. |
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| Back when I actually used the normal rating system, I actually did use 7 as good, because it is kind of wild to say that an anime is not good with the professional level of skill that is put into each and every one of them. I used to rate absolutely rather than "this was better than that so this gets a higher score" |
BurningCarnation said: Nirinbo said: It's true that scores are inflated due to many reasons, but I like to try to understand these reasons instead of dismissing everything as "scores are random numbers and don't matter". This is not for sheer curiosity, but for better recommendations. For example, an iyashikei anime rated 7.6x and completed by less than 20k users is far more impressive than the latest popular battle shounen rated above 8.5x. I agree with your approach and reasoning, and would like to elaborate on how I do it. I use your method on older time periods rather than relatively obscure genres: e.g., a ~7.50 show from the '90s/'80s/older, with <20,000~ish people, will probably be equal to an ~8.20~8.40 for the hottest seasonals/shounens/etc. If I can't change the system, I might as well try to learn how it works. Having said this, I usually pick based on premise and synopsis lol. Being old and/or unpopular are indeed the most common causes that lower the score of anime on MAL. It makes sense that newcomers (who rate everything higher because they are more easily impressed) are more likely to watch recent and popular stuff, thus inflating the scores. There are also other reasons, like controversies = score down (especially when it's about sexuality) or being a sequel = score up (since those who liked the previous seasons are more likely to watch the next). |
| Meanwhile OP has a 6.55 mean score lmao. nice troll. |
Nirinbo said: BurningCarnation said: I agree with your approach and reasoning, and would like to elaborate on how I do it. I use your method on older time periods rather than relatively obscure genres: e.g., a ~7.50 show from the '90s/'80s/older, with <20,000~ish people, will probably be equal to an ~8.20~8.40 for the hottest seasonals/shounens/etc. If I can't change the system, I might as well try to learn how it works. Having said this, I usually pick based on premise and synopsis lol. Being old and/or unpopular are indeed the most common causes that lower the score of anime on MAL. It makes sense that newcomers (who rate everything higher because they are more easily impressed) are more likely to watch recent and popular stuff, thus inflating the scores. There are also other reasons, like controversies = score down (especially when it's about sexuality) or being a sequel = score up (since those who liked the previous seasons are more likely to watch the next). I agree with literally everything you say. Just want to add that, for me, if sequels' scores are about the same as their prequels, that's already a cause for caution: if their scores go significantly lower (~>0.6), then something went horribly wrong. Like, 'the fans want to deny the sequels ever existed' level of wrong. |
BurningCarnationMar 21, 2022 6:36 AM
| will there ever be someone on this website that isnt entitled...(no) the fact that you care this much about how OTHERS rate their anime is already enough for me to stop reading. let people do what they want, theyre not here to please you herofelix77. if looking at a score bothers you this much then dont look |
| SAOs and Kakegurui's ratings aren't even that high though...They used to be higher. If you're going to make a point about popular anime being rated too high, at least choose examples of shows that haven't been beaten to death by massive hate boners. I do agree how its kinda dumb that people assume anything rated lower than a 7 is complete shit when a lot of people don't even bother using the full rating scale though. |
| You're getting so much hate on this thread, but I 100% agree with you. Sure people have the right to rate stuff whatever they want, but it's used completely wrong and it's fine to voice your opinion on it. Anyways, what's the point of having an out of 10 rating system if people only ever use 6-10? |
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| Well, that's why you don't take any ratings seriously other than your own. For me though, they serve their purpose as I usually tend to like the more highly shows here. They're nothing more than a recommendation system to me. This is how I pick shows here: Below 6: Probably Garbage 6-7: Probably Mid 7-8: Probably decent/ good 8-9.5: Probably Great/ Most likely good at least. It's different from my own rating system, but it helps and works most of the time for me. You should maybe also consider taking this approach. |
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| Personally, I don't agree with you. People can rate a show whatever they feel like. |
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| No more than 3 anime with 10/10 score? What sad list you have. I guess you got me since I replied. You got me. You got me good. |
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| It doesn't matter, if all the scores are inflated it doesn't impact the meaningfulness of any individual score in relation to all the other scores. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| What OP is saying is true, but it doesn't really matter. 7 is average here and you're not going to be able to change it. Selection bias is going to impact that to an extent (people are going to watch the shows they think they like) and also the users of this site aren't, on the whole, terribly critical. You're just going to have to adjust what a MAL rating means in the overall. Acknowledge that 7 is average and adjust internally from there. |
inim said: Well I don't blame you, I suppose. But I think my point still holds, right? If you're aware of the fact that a lot of 8.XXs aren't up to par, why not just expect that? I guess it's annoying that it might vary so much (with "good" 8.1s being hidden among "not so good" ones), but I'd just play it off as the nature of the beast and move on. Uji_Gintoki_Bowl said: It's more the other way around. I'm not tricked into thinking that a show rated 8.x is any good. This is in particular true for recent ones, which get a really high hype bonus.It's not like you're stupid enough to be getting tricked every time by a 6.XX that you expected to be good, right? But just to confirm, I do somewhat resonate with the sentiment that it's so hard to predict whether or not a show will be good just from its rating on MAL. Demographics and fan dynamics make large room for MAL score variation for any given show is all. |
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| 5-6 is average and always has been. And that thing is relatable to not only anime but also all of stuff which has ratings such as games and movies or anything else which exists with such ratings, it is just reality and you need to deal with it. Especially that everyone has different taste and differently will look at something, for someone title such as idk maybe FLCL will be a great masterpiece when for someone else it will be a bullshit crap, so in that case who's rating is right? So as the guy above said, the fact that one title has 5-6 score doesn't mean that it is a total shit, but you shouldn't be surprised that most of it will be generic or something of a lower quality, as same as it goes for titles which has ratings belows 5 or above 6. Especially that ratings are changing based on trends, for today for example Isekai is the best shows ever and everyone will rate it higher and for tommorow the best shows will be Ecchi, who knows most of ratings are also based on it, not on quality of the show, it is how it is. (obviously it is not one-day lenght but it is for example) |
| It's called supporting a series you like, that's why some people do it. It's not that deep. |
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| if you already found out that 7 is average how does that actually change anything |
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FurySlasher said: The one reason I have my scores quite inflated is that if I didn't I'd hurt the rating of the shows I liked, compared to the shows I didn't watch, because I don't think I'd like them.What a coincidence, just had a lesson about behavioural economics and this links closely with certain aspects of that. I guess priming and anchoring is part of it, if a popular show already has a good score, and you also enjoy it, you would be tempted to give it a score around that benchmark cos an idea is automatically put into your head. However if this anime were actually rated much lower, you most likely would’ve been led to giving it a much lower score. I would use examples but I don’t wanna cause any controversy here. I want to watch good shows, an educated opinion why a popular show is bad isn't worth the time it takes to watch it. |
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