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Dec 11, 2021 3:34 PM
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I have only been following seasonal anime for a few years now, so don't have much info/knowledge about yesteryears, but we all know just how ridiculous, possibly even pathetic, the releases have been for this anime.

I can't even remember exactly all the delays/recaps/specials this anime has had so far, there has been so many.... A special commentary episode, a recap episode and is it 2 or 3 delays now? I honestly can't remember... Yes, there's the December 11 Japan Day, the only excuse that's good IMO. Though why doesn't it affect other anime that air the same day? Different channels? VERY convenient IMO....

And if you do you know another anime release that's been more crazy than this, please say it, would be interesting to know the details...

And now, a three month wait until the final two episodes drop lol.. oh dear.
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Dec 11, 2021 3:43 PM
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Well, it has only been delayed one day, this week was already scheduled to not air an episode for something to do with Japan or something (not sure). So no, it's not a bad release
Dec 11, 2021 3:47 PM
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Worth it though, sure it's annoying but the episodes are quality.
Dec 11, 2021 3:56 PM
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I don't remember the exact details, but Girls und Panzer had to delay the air date of its final few episodes by three months, and they also experienced other troubles before that
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Dec 11, 2021 5:10 PM
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IIRC, Darling in the FranXX aslo had quite a few weeks where they'd release not an Episode, but rather a re-cap or commentary episode.


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Dec 11, 2021 5:30 PM
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From what I remember, Full Metal Panic! Invisible Victory had 2 delays and the final 2 episodes combined air like weeks after the previous episode that aired then? It's only a 1 cour season, visuals got a lot worse in the later episodes and the Xebec studio is shut down now. It's a fucking great season for me but man was that such a chaotic experience, fitting for a sequel that returned 13 years after its previous entry out of absolutely nowhere.

There's probably way worse but this is the one that comes to mind for me since I started watching seasonals. I know Beatless had a hell schedule too with many delays and the final few episodes airing many months later, but that's a 2 cour series.
Dec 11, 2021 5:31 PM
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It is a bit annoying, but I don't mind waiting for new episodes. Honestly didn't expect multiple delays though. Don't know of many shows that have had multiple delays, so it could possibly be the most chaotic release.
Dec 11, 2021 5:34 PM
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As annoying as it may be, no. I remember having to suddenly wait months for Babylon to continue, only for the rest of it to take a nosedive.
Dec 11, 2021 5:41 PM
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As somebody else said, I think Full Metal Panic! Invisible Victory takes the cake for chaotic releases.
Dec 11, 2021 5:51 PM
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I feel like it only could be seen as "most chaotic ever" by fairly new anime watchers. 86-watchers are deep in their feelings about waiting an extra day or extra week, while others have waited months or years and still managing to assume positive intent.
Dec 11, 2021 5:53 PM

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imagine_aincrad7 said:
World's End Harem got 3 month delay after its first episode

But none cares about it except Hentai lovers
Dec 11, 2021 5:58 PM

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I don’t mind these delays if the quality they deliver is still amazing . This is the last delay after this we will be going to get some amazing 4eps . Have some patience.
Dec 11, 2021 6:04 PM

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Beatless comes to mind. I think that one had also 3 if not 4 recaps.

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Dec 11, 2021 6:20 PM

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samthestan said:
Worth it though, sure it's annoying but the episodes are quality.


Yeah, at least it's not a Wonder Egg Priority
Dec 11, 2021 6:28 PM

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One thing I do wonder amongst all the delays, is that when and how is the finale of this cour going to air? Since if I recall, My Dress-Up Darling shares the same timeslot and main channel (sorry if I mess details up, not too familiar with details here) that 86 has and it would start on Jan 9th at 12 am in JST, same time for 86's finale for cour 2 if no more delays happen.

Would there be some rescheduling on the same day? Or would 86 have a couple episodes combine into one and have a 1 hour special for the sake of time-management? Or the worst choice is potential postponement for a few months. I have no idea how this works so I'm curious.
Dec 11, 2021 6:31 PM
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Waran-Ess said:
I don't remember the exact details, but Girls und Panzer had to delay the air date of its final few episodes by three months, and they also experienced other troubles before that
The fact that someone knows about the Girls Und Panzer delay is crazy, but imagine having to wait every 2 years for a part of the finale to drop.
Dec 11, 2021 6:34 PM
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We don't know what's going on in there and they give us top notch animation, music and voice acting every episode anyway. So well, it's sad, but I'll wait.
Dec 11, 2021 6:37 PM

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I find it funny how more people voted Yes here, when Beatless and Regalia Sacred Stars were a thing. Also, I think the Fate/Extra finale was supposed to be originally one and the same with the main one back in Winter 2018. Magia Record S2 and Magia Record Final Season were definitely supposed to be one and the same entry as well, too, but Aniplex said otherwise plus Shaft tends to have a bad habit with getting stuff done on time. Oh yea, Full Metal Panic Invisible Victory also had a wild broadcasting case as well.

Keep in mind that Aniplex initially wanted this series to premiere back in Fall 2020, so its already quite a crunch scheduling-wise. If there are any shows airing in the same date and same time as the finale on Jan 8th-9th, then I'm pretty sure there will be an alternative way for them to stream that or the other show in question. I dunno for sure, though, cause I'm no expert on what goes on behind the scenes. A back-to-back episode option IS possible, but they announce that much sooner than later if it's possible.
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Dec 11, 2021 7:13 PM

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No. This one isn't so bad as there were only two delays. When Sailor Moon Crystal was airing, they would only air two episodes a month for its run, which was also 12 episode anime. While I'm not a massive fan of 86, this came out great in the end.
Dec 11, 2021 7:18 PM

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I remember when God Eater was released and the 4 last episodes were delayed for 6 months because of its peculiar animation
Dec 11, 2021 7:30 PM
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All of love live for delayed for the olympics
Dec 11, 2021 7:49 PM
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Wow 55 said yes and 55 said no.
Dec 11, 2021 8:17 PM

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The only one I can talk about is WEP. It had to delay an episode because of production issues. Which made it so it lost the TV time slot for the last episode. And they had to air the last episode 3 months later despite it still having production issues.
The end result was a disappointment to the surprise of no one who read the obvious clues.
Dec 11, 2021 8:32 PM

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Honestly, I'm fine with these episodes taking longer than expected to be released. I'd prefer the quality of the show to stay the same, then for it to amount to shit because it was rushed. Overall, just remember what the studio and staff are going through and the reasons for the delays. And, I mean we all have seen shows or series where it was rushed and it's turn out.

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Dec 11, 2021 11:38 PM
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Not 12 episodes nor TV but Strike The Blood IV was releasing 2 episodes every three months

Dec 11, 2021 11:43 PM
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2 weeks of unintended production issues
1 week intended break

versus

Series with even worse delays

and

Series like Mushoku Tensei etc, delayed 3 months or longer for the same reasons


Anyone voting yes is clearly out of their mind.

Of course a delay is worse than no delay, but the way some of the people here and elsewhere chalk it up like a bad thing seems quite stupid (and shows how short-sighted some are)
Dec 12, 2021 1:17 AM

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Waran-Ess said:
I don't remember the exact details, but Girls und Panzer had to delay the air date of its final few episodes by three months, and they also experienced other troubles before that


What!? I’ve seen all of Girls und Panzer and never knew about this. I assume you’re talking about the series and not the plethora of movies (how the fuck does Girls und Panzer have 4 movies with 3 more coming out soon) and OVA’s the show has. Do you know the reason it was delayed for so long. It just strikes me as odd.
Dec 12, 2021 2:32 AM

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God Eater from Ufotable, got many delays between the week releases and the final 4 episode took months to air.
Dec 12, 2021 2:51 AM
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I'm kinda fine with it tho, as long as the quality i get is top notch.
Dec 12, 2021 3:02 AM

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I find it a bit funny how OP comes off as entitled and arrogant in his post. Do you even know how much of a pressure it is for these people at work? Working conditions aren’t the best for animators in Japan, unfortunately. So you can afford to be a bit more understanding for something like this. It’s not like you have nothing else to do but watch anime in your life.
Dec 12, 2021 3:47 AM
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Hatena illusion delayed its final episode for a couple of months due to COVID-19.
Dec 12, 2021 4:19 AM
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Magia Record is another example. They went with 8 episode season, of which last 4 episodes were complete mess, with last episode being delayed. The final season was supposed to start airing December, but there has been no news so far.
Dec 12, 2021 4:27 AM
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If they are delaying it is because they don't want the quality of the show to drop. I wish every studio was like this instead of overworking their animators to death so that they can deliver the bare minimum of quality on time just because of the horrible scheduling that they were given by the big industry dogs... Btw there is no such thing as a "simple 12 episode anime", producing 12 good episodes takes fuck tons of work.
Dec 12, 2021 4:38 AM

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Beatless exists so yeah, can't be more chaotic than that, imagine having 20 episodes and 4 recaps in between only to get the last 4 after a few months
Dec 12, 2021 6:26 AM

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Simple 12 episodes? Pathetic?.......

The entire lack of knowledge and pathetic entitlement of the OP are why certain anime fans are hated.

If they need two weeks for every episode so the staff don't work themselves to death and can get the quality they have worked so hard for then good.
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Dec 12, 2021 6:46 AM

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Madoka Magica's last 2 episodes were delayed indefinitely because of the Tōhoku earthquake in 2011. While yeah, a vis maior at that caliber can't really be mentioned at the same page as mere production difficulties, it was scary to hear that even the staff had no idea when they will be able to air the remaining episodes.
Having one week scheduled delays are nothing.
Dec 12, 2021 8:53 AM
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Ohh no. God please help. GakutoDeathGlare started making threads here :"(
Dec 12, 2021 9:13 AM
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Sb98 said:
Ohh no. God please help. GakutoDeathGlare started making threads here :"(


Not his first topic around here, I remember there was 1 where he complained about Frederica.
Dec 12, 2021 9:52 AM
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a frustrating delay doesn't make you hate the entire show right?
Dec 12, 2021 11:06 AM
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sinjurai said:
a frustrating delay doesn't make you hate the entire show right?


One frustrating delay doesn't make you hate a show, but we're on what now... three? Or was it four? And who knows if there will be even more before they actually manage to finish the thing? And once they lose their time slot with the new season that could turn into months more of a delay before they're able to air the last episodes unless they just say fuck it and release everything online to get it over with.

I'm definitely starting to hate this show and everyone associated with it
Dec 12, 2021 11:14 AM
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menpe said:
Madoka Magica's last 2 episodes were delayed indefinitely because of the Tōhoku earthquake in 2011. While yeah, a vis maior at that caliber can't really be mentioned at the same page as mere production difficulties, it was scary to hear that even the staff had no idea when they will be able to air the remaining episodes.
Having one week scheduled delays are nothing.


That's a major fucking difference though. Madoka's last episodes weren't delayed because the studio was constantly behind schedule, their finale took place during a natural disaster that flooded the entire city and they decided it would be in bad taste to air that right after an earthquake and subsequent tsunami left thousands of people dead. They delayed the finale to put distance between it and the events and essentially redo large chunks of it to remove the flooded city from the scenes.
Dec 12, 2021 11:14 AM

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Seriously, back in 2003/2004 there was airing an anime called Wolf's Rain. It aired pretty much okay till episode 15, then episodes 15-18 (four eps) are simply recapitulation episodes with no new content. I don't remember exactly, but I think it may be mix of eartquake/SARS outbreak/budget problems combined. The story ended as planned 26-episodes, so next year they released 4 OVA episodes to end the story (which was disturbed). So you know. Better not aired than recaps aired as regular episodes.
Dec 12, 2021 11:18 AM
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tensai95 said:


Series like Mushoku Tensei etc, delayed 3 months or longer for the same reasons



Mushoku Tensei took a cour off in between seasons, that kind of "delay" is entirely normal in the industry these days. This show ALSO took a cour off and yet still ended up being barely able to push out an episode every other week at this rate.
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mburneracc1 said:
menpe said:
Madoka Magica's last 2 episodes were delayed indefinitely because of the Tōhoku earthquake in 2011. While yeah, a vis maior at that caliber can't really be mentioned at the same page as mere production difficulties, it was scary to hear that even the staff had no idea when they will be able to air the remaining episodes.
Having one week scheduled delays are nothing.


That's a major fucking difference though. Madoka's last episodes weren't delayed because the studio was constantly behind schedule, their finale took place during a natural disaster that flooded the entire city and they decided it would be in bad taste to air that right after an earthquake and subsequent tsunami left thousands of people dead. They delayed the finale to put distance between it and the events and essentially redo large chunks of it to remove the flooded city from the scenes.


I didn't want to write a novel, anybody who's even remotely interested in the topic could've read the backstory. Read the last sentence too, calling a week of delay or two the most chaotic release too is just ridiculous.
Many mentioned WEP as an example but 'scheduling errors' and 'having no fcking clue how to write an actual ending but we have to bs our way out either way' are not remotely the same either.
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mburneracc1 said:
tensai95 said:


Series like Mushoku Tensei etc, delayed 3 months or longer for the same reasons



Mushoku Tensei took a cour off in between seasons, that kind of "delay" is entirely normal in the industry these days. This show ALSO took a cour off and yet still ended up being barely able to push out an episode every other week at this rate.


https://mushokutensei.jp/news/210519-02/

- Mushoku aired during winter season, was originally due to air in summer for part 2 but pushed back to fall

- 86 aired in spring, part 2 in fall

Please check the info, mushoku ended up being a 2-cour gap instead of a single.

Edit: To briefly explain since you didn't seem to get the gist of it, I only referenced series which announced delays for production or whatsoever reason, not even about industry 1-cour gaps, even then your argument doesn't make any sense when you try to compare both.
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You ever watch Haruhi's Endless Eight? Literally lasted 8 episodes that were almost 100% identical until the last one because one of the arcs that was slated for that season got selected for a movie adaptation adaptation instead.
Dec 13, 2021 6:59 AM
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Not in the slightest. I recall covid messing literally every show and manga release up. Same with the Kyoani arson attack.
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tensai95 said:

- Mushoku aired during winter season, was originally due to air in summer for part 2 but pushed back to fall

- 86 aired in spring, part 2 in fall

Please check the info, mushoku ended up being a 2-cour gap instead of a single.


Even if Mushoku took two cours off they knew they weren't going to be able to produce the episodes on a consistent schedule and just took the extra cour off, they didn't just go "Fuck it, we can probably do it" make it half way through their second season and then have to take a break every other week just to finish each episode.

I'd rather have a series take an extra cour off to get things right than take a single cour and then still fail to release on time over and over and over.
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mburneracc1 said:
tensai95 said:

- Mushoku aired during winter season, was originally due to air in summer for part 2 but pushed back to fall

- 86 aired in spring, part 2 in fall

Please check the info, mushoku ended up being a 2-cour gap instead of a single.


Even if Mushoku took two cours off they knew they weren't going to be able to produce the episodes on a consistent schedule and just took the extra cour off, they didn't just go "Fuck it, we can probably do it" make it half way through their second season and then have to take a break every other week just to finish each episode.

I'd rather have a series take an extra cour off to get things right than take a single cour and then still fail to release on time over and over and over.


You would have gotten the same outcome had the MT product been released out back in July.

At the end of the day the episodes will still be released no matter what your argument is. Not like it got axed

The problem with like, quite a bit of people is that they need this weekly release just to satisfy their short attention span. If delays are such a concern to you perhaps binge watching is a much preferable alternative
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I hate waiting but for this anime? Heck no i'll rather wait 1 month than to see shitty cgi that was rushed and just of bad quality than see delayed but good animations
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