86--EIGHTY-SIX (light novel)
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| The life of the 86ers is ruthlessly tough with many deaths unaccounted for by the Republic of San Magnolia, yet Undertaker leader Shin manages to hold everything together, now with their 6th Handler Major Vladilena. The real glimpse of what the 86ers, or the Spearhead Squadron are facing with their enemy forces called the Legion from the neighbouring Kingdom of Giad, many enemy types to thwart but Shin and Co. work tirelessly around them with their Juggernauts, with SawanoHiroyuki's OST backing it up for the immersive effect. A-1 Pictures have always put out S-tier animation in regards to the action, and 86 is no different from the pedigree of insane visuals, even down to the CG. Vladilena, as much as her words pierce hard towards the new recruits, the amount of humanity discrimination and hate around the people of the 86 labelled as "colossial pigs" of a failed experiment, she vows to change the perception of thinking, and this is just the start. Still a good show with a deep sense of lore. |
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| So that’s the route they went for to convey some of the exposition. I like it ngl. Another amazing episode. LN reader satisfied here. Hype for next episode. |
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| Another Great Episode.It really hits your emotions. Also that Anime original part where Lena was lecturing really fits well.Looking forward to the next episode. |
Arjuna777Apr 17, 2021 11:24 AM
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| I can't believe how faithful this adaptation is! At this rate, this season may only cover volume 1, and season 2 maycover volume 2 and 3. However, don't see volume 1 needing anything more than 8-9 episodes honestly. Maybe we might get some anime-original scenes on how... EDIT: Though looking back at the LN, this season might still be able to cover up to volume 2. 7 episodes for the first volume and 4 episodes for the second volume seems doable. Especially since the second volume is quite shorter than the first volume. |
GoldenDevilGamerApr 17, 2021 1:46 PM
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Plotva741 said: Chris_Concept said: Damn I feel bad for the life of an 86 Also I probably missed this but why do they have 2 years to end the war? The Legion have limited timespan. Oh right! She did mention that undertaker has 1 year left |
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| I really enjoy watching the 86 interact, they are a fun group... See the title of the next episode... GOD DAMMIT! I see that as usual, the characters voiced by Saori Hayami are waifu, please be safe Anju. Speaking of her, it looks like the blonde guy wants another kind of cake from her lol. So if you don't have silver hair and eyes, you are a humanoid pig that failed to evolve and have no rights? Ugh. Lena has quite a difficult battle there. Fights are amazing. |
| Pretty good battle scene, the op and ed is wonderful, and kidda Esdeath ~ Lenna ? |
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| Who read the original LN or the manga adaptation? How much potential does this title have? I really liked the first episode and premise because it fits my tastes very well, so I wonder how much my expectations are too high. |
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| great episode!! That scene where Lena was in the classroom was perfect. |
| It's weird to see CG in anime that's actually good and doesn't cheapen the feel of the rest of the animation. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| We have the real unlimited budget works here, seriously! |
| Decent episode, I'm not too big of a fan of anime-original content but it fit I guess. From the pacing I assume it will only cover the first LN in the first cour, which would be great. I still have time to read the 2nd volume and try to get the others. |
| that's some nazi shit right there... someone made a comment about it being similar to attack on titan and I'm kinda starting to see it now, especially undertaker reminds me a lot of levi besides another great episode, I hope the score will get past 8.0 once it's over cause it really deserves it if it keeps going that way |
Yuvensius said: ShikishimaKrile said: I don't know why Shinei reminds me a bit of Sukasuka protagonist, though it has ayanokouji voice I can see that they have similar appearance, but some part of the personality is different though. Willem is more carefree and can actually make a funny joke sometimes, while Shin is already lost that side of personality (war and discrimination can change people personality). Yea thats right but I think its because the time. Willem suffered the lost of a person/or in plural long time ago so he was able to recover a bit and is able to be more carefree meanwhile Shin is losing people right now. I havent read 86 novel so I dont know how much character develompent he has but in the sukasuka novel I'm not really saying that they are equal or something, just that he resembles him a bit, when willem is in the serious moments, they can be similar, but true enough Willem show more his emotions. |
| We get to see the 86ers in action this episode. Unfortunate that the Undertaker didn't write any reports though, but who can really blame him? 😂 Lena was pretty brave for standing up for the lives of the 86ers in that lecture. However, I don't see it coming without any repercussions, realistically. |
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Sb98 said: RobertBobert said: The LN is great, I assure you. And you've only seen the tip of the iceberg till now in the anime.Who read the original LN or the manga adaptation? How much potential does this title have? I really liked the first episode and premise because it fits my tastes very well, so I wonder how much my expectations are too high. So, will all characters except the main pair also receive development? I love dramas that really make me feel and empathize with the characters. |
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| The animation and music were amazing. Mirize wanted them to learn the real history but they obviously didn't believe her. She has to try harder. |
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| Lena giving real ass history lessons and the prof just like "oh God, please stop" lmao. In other nations security would be on her along with a summon to military court. I enjoy this thoroughly so far. Usually not a LN reader, but this might be one of the series to change that. Have the feeling the next few episodes are going to be dark and there will be a reality check for Lena. |
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| Holy crappppp This is going to make for a really good series, I love the animation, it's great as expected from A-1. I must say that Milize is definitely looking like a top 3 girl of this spring season so far, and 86 looks like it'll be a top 5 anime for the season. |
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| Wow the scenes with the juggernauts were fantastic good episode as expected |
| This week's episode CGI was GREAT! A lot better than last week's. I enjoyed this episode, I think the pacing they're going at is good. There was something really sad about Shin's smile and the overall atmosphere, but I like how despite everything, the 86 district soldiers still want to "enjoy" life. |
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| Really solid anime so far. Two good episodes in a row! |
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| Amazing ED song. The CGI was pretty good. |
| Nice pack ep. but for me, this whole war looks artificial? Legion has a numebers and technical advantage, but AI is stupid and unable to reach its full potential. And I'm not getting something. If all 86 are people who didn't meet some set of genetic standards and have been thrown outside the walls. So why are they actually fighting? I wonder if they are additionally controlled. I do not know. Some kind of bomb in the skull? The end of the episode shows that if they live to the end of their contract, they (maybe) will regain their rights and will be able to live within the walls again. But who's gonna let them in? Now they are not even recognized as human. On the other hand, if the war would actually end in two years, a large group of people would remain outside the walls. An armed group of people with actual combat experience. Srl... It all reminds me of some kind of experiment. |
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JanPri said: How come the war started just *9* years ago and after just 9 years they've started to believe everybody who doesn't have silver hair is "a humanoid pig that failed to evolve"??? I would understand if it was 90 years ago, but 9 years ago? I just don't get it. Didn't anybody have any contact with these "humanoid pigs" in the past 10 years? Before the war started? Didn't they see and communicate with them like with normal humans??? Read some world history. A crisis in the country (for example a war), a few years of hardcore propaganda and before you know it a whole group of the population are dehumanized and then usually killed. Well known examples. The Bolsheviks in Russia, the Nazis in Germany, the communists in Kabodja. |
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Saygram said: Nice pack ep. but for me, this whole war looks artificial? Legion has a numebers and technical advantage, but AI is stupid and unable to reach its full potential. And I'm not getting something. If all 86 are people who didn't meet some set of genetic standards and have been thrown outside the walls. So why are they actually fighting? I wonder if they are additionally controlled. I do not know. Some kind of bomb in the skull? The end of the episode shows that if they live to the end of their contract, they (maybe) will regain their rights and will be able to live within the walls again. But who's gonna let them in? Now they are not even recognized as human. On the other hand, if the war would actually end in two years, a large group of people would remain outside the walls. An armed group of people with actual combat experience. Srl... It all reminds me of some kind of experiment. All these questions will be answered in this season. The studio is taking the time to drop infodumps quite slowly without burning the anime-only watcher The adptation is *VERY* slow paced... and that's a good thing. It will probably be only 3 volumes for the entire 2 cours. |
AdrianRubinskyApr 17, 2021 3:07 PM
| We get to see a little bit more action on the front lines and the OST from the battle scene was really good. It was very bold of Lena to tell the new recruits about the truth of the Republic war effort, but I feel like its going to fall on deaf ears because they were taught that the people of 86 were pigs who fail to evolve. It seems that she is trying to bring awareness about the Republic War, but she doesn't have the proper platform to get it out there despite having a very notable position within the military. Not to mention that she only been to the front lines once, but never seen any real combat. Even Spearhead doesn't take her seriously even though she trying to connect with them. It's going to be very difficult for her to fight against the fascist/racist propaganda the Republic keeps spewing out. She needs more allies within the military to turn things around. |
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| So the people referred to as 86 are just people kicked out of society because they have different features, smh. |
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| 1. Ok, the battle was fun...some absurd moments in it (like dodging projectiles and cutting metal with metal) but really fun. Apart from the "rule of the cool" I didn't get the gemming part - if the radio frequencies are blocked and the laser communication can give up your position. How "directional laser-based transition" differs from "verbal communication"? In other words how this Para-RAID thing works and why it can't be gemmed? 2. The infodump cleared some of the mysteries...but: - A segregation which happened overnight? Something doesn't match. Maybe the colourless guys were cooking that for years and just used the crisis as an excuse? - The MP guy should've arrested Lena despite her having backup from a higher place. It's his job to prevent or stop scenes like that. Her being released later is issue for another day. - The theory that the war will end after two years is pretty naive or a propaganda lie. They have no idea if there aren't other bots on storage which just wait to be activated or maybe there could be some automatic factories which repair and recharge kill-bots. Not to mention there are different models, some of which can be more durable than others. - Yeah, they don't call them drones, so some people here should stop too. 3. Oh, so those guys have some technical support on site...which makes possible some tinkering with the junk they find, cobbling some useful bots and even achieving more complex technical goals. 4. The 86-ers sounded a bit too cheery for canon fodders send to be killed by relentless robot army. I don't buy the explanation "They behave like this to distract themselves.". Like there should be some sings of PSD or whatnot. |
alshuApr 17, 2021 3:45 PM
| Wow at Lena spelling some truths.....it's extremely weird she wasn't shot on the spot considering the society she lives in but I guess that uncle protection is really strong then. The action was excellent, I dare say the CG was Ghost in the Shell levels good. Everything is shaping up greatly so far. |
| The dialogue with old man Audreht was quite close. I think they cut out their bit about reports so Lena's scene and the epilogue would have more impact. 03:43 Kujo being added to the box of names No Latin Bible line. 03:51 The backgrounds and scenery look really nice. Exposition about the legion was integrated into character dialogue so I don't really see a problem. I like the artistic contrast to the Juggernaut's appearance. 09:48 The slow-mo projectile and the Juggernaut action sequence look so good. We get two perspectives of when Lena gives the same order to Shin; Shin's at 08:41 and Lena's at 11:17 11:45 In an anime-original scene, the light novel's exposition is framed in a lecture, with Vladilena Milizé invited to speak as an experienced Handler. 16:20 You can't spell angel without Lena. We got a pouty face Lena and then an elevated heartrate when she talks about Undertaker, so adorable. The ending is a real banger: 20:17 Anju's misunderstanding of Daiyu cracks me up 20:50 Shin is a true badass. 22:10 Kaie's reaction to Shin's signal. 22:42 You can see that Kurena doesn't take kindly to Lena communicating with them. 23:24 Shin's smile |
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| I think someone already mentioned this in the thread, but it's highly likely that the ED visuals will change with every episode. Aniplex's upload of the ED titled it as the "Episode 2 ED Video", so we'll probably see the visuals changing. That being said, I would rather have a proper ED because it's kinda weird seeing an ED with only two still-shots as it's visuals, lol. |
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| So the 86 people are differentiated due to their hair color? If that's so, why is Anju aka Snow Witch in the 86? |
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