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All of those schemes are unrealistic to some extent, but this last one was unbelievable stupid. If you think the resolution (fake building on an island) was well done okay, but then you lack critical reflection. Kimurah said: The filmaker from the first arc had actual passion for his job creating movies despite his drugdealing sidebusiness, even Edamura managed to understand his creativity (even if it was all part of making him fall for the scheme) The art critic from the third arc had a good eye for art and skills for people like Thomas (even though also he claimed that he was using Thomas just for that, forgeries, but it can be taken as him just lying to get rid of Thomas afterwards) Lastly the sheik from the 2nd arc is probably the weakest in likeness, but still in my books he's not some despicable shonen villian that murders his enemies in cold blood like the chinese mobsters. I would still not call them likeable. Just because someone got passion or "good eyes" doesn't make them likeable at all. I agree that they are not shōnen villains type of bad guys, but still far away from being likeable. I know the makers of GP want to connect the first schemes with this one and its fits all so perfectly even if it was ridiculous. Kimurah said: Back to the thread, you still dodged the question. Do you seriously believe that any piece of media with an open ending is made purpousely for a possible sequel? Do you think something like even great movies Your Name for instance, needs a sequel? that the audience is that dense that can't fill in the gaps? Comparing a movie with a TV/anime show is always problematic, because the specific situation is very different. So no, open ending must not automatically mean that they had a sequel in mind. But this is still business after all, if the makers of GP sees that they could make more money with a (possible) sequel they're going to do it (which i assume here, that's why the last two episodes feels weird). Kimurah said: Again, you missed the motif of the series. The original crew was formed by Dorothy where even Laurent was originally used as an accesory. Their first contact could had gone completely wrong if the guy she was scamming would had pulled a real weapon to deal with both of them. The risk was always a factor that made their escapades thrilling. All I'm saying is that there's the posibility taking into account Dorothy's love for dangerous situations and relatively young age for bad judgement. It's called bad writing. The schemes worked/didn't work because the writers wrote those cases like that. Enjoyable yes, realistic? No. I say it again, this show is not as "deep" as you think it is. Yes there is a motif for Laurent doing those schemes and for Edamura to get back at Laurent, but because of the writing especially in this last case, it feels too unnatural (at least for me). That's why Dorothy "coming back from the dead" feels like an ass pull. |
| Ego = 1 / Knowledge | "More the Knowledge Lesser the Ego, Lesser the Knowledge More the Ego." Albert Einstein My ratings:  |
| At first, I thought it was straightforward, but in the end, it was exciting. Each of the characters was fascinating, and their pasts were carefully portrayed, and I could relate to them. I liked the way the story was put together. The process of becoming a trusted partner has been a wonderful one. I was a fan of the screenwriter's work, and it's as good as it gets. I hope for a sequel. |
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| ASLDKJLSKFD I USED to be of the "IF YOU'RE DEAD THEN STAY DEAD" Clan until very recent changes in belief within my life. So if I watched this any sooner, then I might have said, "I usually don't like people coming back from the "dead", but..." But actually we're so used to people "coming back to life" in this anime that it's no biggie. BUT what I thought was a death flag was actually a non-death flag the entire time. She kissed her ring and said "protect me" and in the end, it did. I'm actually pretty fine with this and kinda even thought to myself, "Hmm, what if Dorothy washes up on an island somewhere alive". I'm actually pretty glad. I did have a lot of fun with this series. Heck, it made me stop what I was supposed to be doing and now I have to change my whole schedule around, ha hah! I was always thinking, "Uh oh. This is the one that's going to go wrong" and thankfully things would fix themselves. In the end, it yanks you around but still manages to make you feel okay and good in the end. To be honest... just to be completely honest... like really really honest, aside from like Nadia, I hardly get to see black girls as an important love interest so that alone kinda caught my heart off guard. ;__; Thank you. I did like the characters in general, really. The designs were fine, the backstories were fine, and I generally like what they did with them. There were some things that I wasn't fond of. For example, I kinda thought it was a little crappy of Laurent to drag Makoto into things when he didn't want to (as far as we knew). Like considering Dorothy's "death" you would think he'd leave it be if someone wanted out of that life, right? But also, it's just kinda cruddy in general to drag people into scams when they want to live a lawful life. Like it wasn't even Laurent convincing him, it was more like Makoto would find himself already too deep in it before he'd realize that he was a part of it. Like dang, Laurent, leave the dude alone.;; And then ya know I guess some things were a liiiittle too convenient, BUT I took it in Lupin III-esque stride. I can't sit here and say, "MMMMMM I can't suspend belief" when I'm already a Lupin fan. Like who would I even be, ha hah! Overall though, it's no biggie. Additionally, I get to list this as my 1,000th anime. Eyy! I'm honored to do so. |
| I dont know why people ship Edamura with Abby. Edamura is hopeless virgin who spent 2 (I think) years in prison, while Abby "traveled" the world. They’re totally incompatible. Why the fuck they are in the good terms with Sam, Coleman and that first guy. It doesn’t make any sense. Honestly villains in this anime were retards. Yakuza could just google if arabian princess was kidnapped or something. What would happened if not Edamura but somebody from chairmans people shot his dad. What if they checked weapon and they would find out that was fake? Dorothy is miraculously alive and in Taiwan. WTF? How could she survive it? How? She didn’t float to the surface, because she was unconscious, she even lost her memory. I was hoping that Edamura would pop off, but nothing like that happened. First 3 arcs 9, last arc 4. Too many illogical inconsistencies. |
| Finally finished the show. It was great. Wish more anime originals like this would come out. In my opinion this is the best show Wit has done so far. Felt very refreshing and it is definitely the highlight of the year. Love how everything came together in its place and got wrapped up in the end. |
| They really ruined everything with this ending, didn't they ? The worst in all this is that they had a good one ! The "fake ending" of the previous episode.... God I'm so disappointed, they even became "budy" with the previous antoganists ffs It was not a very serious and realistic show to begin with, but with this episode they really went to far... |
imperator69Oct 20, 2020 7:09 AM
| Tachikoma saves the day !!! |
| Does anyone know the name of the song at the end of the episode? When they are showing their lives after the arc? |
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| Wtf... I thought iit would be better... so they are friends now with those 3 they scammed? that's so stupid, that it's beyond me... One was kingpin that got aspiring actresses addicted to drugs, slaved them and discard them. The art guy and the race guy were crooks, so why ''befriend'' them? The last villian was just so underwhelming too. Well at least it was a fun and different ride, might as well give it an 8. |
| This anime have more asspulls than a shonen. Even after I tried to just turn my brain off it just doesn´t work. There is so much bullshit that none of it makes sense. Like, it´s so dumb how the series just tries to use huge shock values to tell the audience "Look, this is all amazing, even if none of it makes a lick of sense". The last arc is just terrible. The show becomes more and more predictable by the end, because yes, if no one died, was caught, even identified or just betrayed for the last 20 episodes, why would it happen in the last one? Of course Dorothy was going to be alive, as everyone else. Making the "bad" dudes all reunite was also nonsensical, because yeah, no one is going to make a demand of anything of the sort if they are robbed millions of dollars by a group of people that can do anything, always have ways around any place, and what bother me the most is that they always use their names, always look the same, and no one seem to know them. Finally, how come Liu and Suzuka fell for a plan that was identical to the one made years ago? (also another thing, you would never put someone who just came out of nowhere to be your translator or right hand, companies don´t work like that, even if they are for shady business). The first arc was good (even if the ending is BS) but is the only one where you feel tense, because you don´t know they are going to reuse the same cliches 5 more times, the Cynthia one was also cool, and felt the most grounded, but everything else is just non sensical and full of ass pulls. 4/10. Great visuals though. |
| Just a quick question, if they managed to put to sleep both of the leaders and their subordinates and bring all of them to this island while they were still asleep, why not steal their money directly while they're asleep then fly away without doing this whole scene with betrayal, fake weapons etc ? It doesn't make any logical sense apart from being cool, which I enjoy, but still a stain on this serie's writing. This, alongside Dorothy being alive, will have a really negative impact upon the GP re-watchibility, now that we know everything was staged for this arc and the first 3 cases were just for Makotos training AND their "villains" are now good guys, watching them again will just feel boring and make us feel we lost all the emotional value. That's why even if it's a bold move, I 100% bet on a sequel, Wit Studio gave up on SNK, they have no plan for second season of either Vinland Saga or Magus Bride as for now. Production I.G is still busy doing several Haikyuu seasons and some other things but they don't have a lot of big projects planned apart from FGO movie so it would not be hyper-theoritical to think about a second season also knowing Netflix producing the show. (Their lineup already being announced with a lot of new anime originals, manga adaptations and sequels is a clue in that direction, a second season would more likely be out in a year or 2 than tomorrow) Also this last call from Laurent was too much of a tease for nothing to happen, he straight up calls Makoto for another heist revolving around US elections or some shit, he clearly haven't given up on the con-artist way and even if the epilogue suggest the others did, it is clearly blurry, Abby's just climbing some hills, Cynthia takes care of one of the child and Makoto is just in a café to chill. Laurent could bring the squad back or just act in a duo with Makoto and new pals anyway. Second season, OAV, movie or nothing, time will tell. |
| Masterpiece. Thats it thats my review |
| i applaud at the Great Pretender for being so great Wow, an anime where one mistake could lead to your death but nonone died, no-one freaking enjoyed Wizard of the East, it was a nice ark........ SAyonara Laurent, Abby,Cynthia & Edamone .. |
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| Wrapped up pretty nicely. The whole explanation about how they schemed those two boss were done great I think. Overall this anime is entertaining. |
| The flashback from another perspective was funny. They did a good job making us notice the anomalies throughout the episodes, so that we wouldn't feel like the show treated us like idiots when they revealed the actual story. Wow, all of the scums in this series were friends the whole time. ahaha I keep shipping Makoto and Laurent. Anyway, Laurent threw his ex's lucky charm, and held onto Makoto's, so I am going to take it to mean he has moved on and now loves his Edamame. The scene at the end felt really unnecessary. Still, I will interpret it as Dorothy getting a chance to restart a new life, and not as a potential sequel. The ending was good. This doesn't need to be continued. I had watched this anime because of two reasons only. 1) The art was nice 2) I got a crush on Makoto after seeing him. I never thought this anime would be so entertaining. I was half expecting that I'd end up dropping it. The score was pretty bad at first. |
| This anime had some good ideas, some cool moments, some interesting backstories. But poor storytelling prevented it from becoming a memorable work. High production value is a plus point at least. |
| The backgrounds in this were so ugly. random colors? who thought that was a good idea? but it was good overall. |
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| Fuck. This anime was a masterpiece. Although the post credit scene was unnecessary, I still find the ending to be god tier and one I didn't see coming at all. |
| That last arc was so shit it convinced me to rate this show from an 8 to a 7. How disappointing. Sometimes LESS is MORE. 1st arc and 3rd arc were god tier though. |
DhaarokNov 23, 2020 6:14 AM
Sonalisa said: The last case was a bit cringe-worthy. Really wanted Edamura to betray them at the end, THAT would be a real twist ! Also I don't know why they bothered to bring back the people they scammed, and the fact that they are totally okay with helping people who scammed them is beyond me and what's the point of killing a person if they're just going to bring her back 🤦 well, all in all it kept me interested Edamura killing Laurent and his dad would have been really good. But this is Japanese written so of course it was going to be dogshit. |
| My brain turned to mush after this case, too many dots to connect for my only braincell Great ending, and while I sniff sum' season 2 scent, as it is, I don't think it needs one, it rounded everything up really nicely with some mystery sprinkled But yeah the 3 scammed dudes showing up like good ol' pals reuniting after graduation for some beer? Nah, that felt too off |
degandaganNov 25, 2020 5:38 PM
   Skibbidy skib skib skaa say "NO" to fanservice |
| Honestly, loved it. Came in for something chill came out with feels. 9/10, marathoned on the last 9 episodes this afternoon. Unrealistic? Whatever, I had fun and aaaaahhhhh yes the feels. Lots of feels. Still having feels right this moment. S2 or movie iduncare after that ending w/ Dorothy, can’t just end it like that. |
"ドSではない。迢ドSだ." - 蘇芳先生、月華撩乱 Romance |
| Binged the final arc now that is came to US Netflix, and it was a fun ride overall, but man that final scene had me rolling my eyes. Not only was she alive (when the last arc was more or less about avenging her), but somehow a fish ate that pendant, the old couple that took her in caught the fish, found it in its stomach, and gave it to her? Come onnnnnn bro. Lol no way |
| *Mourning the disappointment of The Promised Neverland season 2.* |
| I have to admit, I found Dorothy being alive at the end a huge cop-out. I mean come on, she was shot in the chest by a real gun and drowned. This made no sense. Also I think if Makoto's going berserk at the end was real, it would have been a more gutsy move. However, I can't see him siding with child traffickers. That yakuza bitch needed a bullet in the head. |
| I'm really mad and disappointed that they made up and became friends with the 3 scumbags from previous arcs, other than that it was an amazing ride |
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| damn. i wanna see a season 2 but i don't know if it's actually needed |
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| I didn’t like the last case much but it was still good. I got double baited in the end, I would’ve been more surprised if one of them actually killed the other and someone in the main cast didn’t make it out alive. I really liked the first 3 cases and the last one was alright, so I’m giving 8/10 to Great Pretender. |
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FYI, came to seek confirmation on the President. Those who are wondering about that little bit: The actor in the bad action movie is 100% meant to be a portrayal/caricature of the actor Steven Seagal. If you listen to the english dub the VA even impersonates Seagal's voice.  I think it is a way to goof on Trump without actually doing so. Seagal is widely known for being an action actor in some old pretty bad movies, reality tv star, and is full of himself; and is a fan of Trump. |
gr33nm4n101 said: FYI, came to seek confirmation on the President. Those who are wondering about that little bit: The actor in the bad action movie is 100% meant to be a portrayal/caricature of the actor Steven Seagal. If you listen to the english dub the VA even impersonates Seagal's voice. I think it is a way to goof on Trump without actually doing so. Seagal is widely known for being an action actor in some old pretty bad movies, reality tv star, and is full of himself; and is a fan of Trump. It's a parody... and Seagal is considered on of the best action actors of his time as well as most of his movies in action genre. And why do you Americans bring politics to everything good god, there's tons of other movie references could it be that Ralph Macchio is a Trump/Biden supporter too? |
Snaita said: gr33nm4n101 said: FYI, came to seek confirmation on the President. Those who are wondering about that little bit: The actor in the bad action movie is 100% meant to be a portrayal/caricature of the actor Steven Seagal. If you listen to the english dub the VA even impersonates Seagal's voice. I think it is a way to goof on Trump without actually doing so. Seagal is widely known for being an action actor in some old pretty bad movies, reality tv star, and is full of himself; and is a fan of Trump. It's a parody... and Seagal is considered on of the best action actors of his time as well as most of his movies in action genre. And why do you Americans bring politics to everything good god, there's tons of other movie references could it be that Ralph Macchio is a Trump/Biden supporter too? Lol. Hard disagree on him being even in the top 15 action actors. Among critics, his movies are considered trash. Also, I didn't write the episode, man, obviously it's political, Laurent was at a U.S. Presidential inauguration, lol. Not political. I thought it was a very obvious but subtle dig at Trump. Maybe not, but considering he's the only U.S. president that has been a reality TV star, and most people see both seagal and him as jokes...well, it isn't hard to connect the dots |
| My biggest wish, if this show gets a second season, is for Makoto and Abbie to end up together. They have such great chemistry! I liked that she only sent him the picture - she's trying in her own way. |
| Expect the unexpected 9/10 |
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