My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, As I Expected (light novel)
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arzor_blades26 said: Ah, you got it right, we should be able to work in a group, true. But well, the problem is actually on the way how they do it, not why. I might say that they worked in the wrong way, but hey, people have their own opinions about something so I gladly accept your opinion about it. I'd still call it pathologizing, because it's only accepting one side of the coin.. They're not only working together in wrong way.. Yeah, they make mistakes, but that's part of the process.. Also what Hachiman and Yukino do in the end - instead of fixing things, and learning how to work together better - they decide that they rather not work together at all.. And Haruno encourages it, saying that Hachiman should only watch from the side, support from the side.. That's all very questionable, to be honest.. |
| Though once they figure out the situation, I trust that Yukino will realise that Hachiman with Yui won’t work and that Yui won’t hold it against her. |
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| Rip Hikki 'lost' the battle There is a lot of meaning in this episode that I would have missed if I didn't watch carefully wow! |
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| I’m a bit confused about what’s going on but fine, let’s see xD |
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| Yukino is right, Yui is cute. Boring episode, I liked the beach stuff and the fact that Shizuka-sensei invited Hikki to ramen. You all know what that means, first it's ramen, then a cold beer, then dinner, then bam!!! Sensei gets a piece of Hikki in her apartment. Please tell me we're going to have this |
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yushuf said: For me, this show is less and less enjoyable because Hachiman is trying to be too nice rather than just deciding on what he likes. It’s painful to see everyone ignore all the obvious cues and Hachiman letting Yukino take responsibility for ending the love triangle than doing it himself. It’s really annoying and completely different from the first season where he didn’t give a crap about being hated but did what he felt was right. Also if this is the “point”, then the series is going about it in such a circuitous manner. Verbose writing doesn’t mean good writing. And Oregairu is an anime that thinks it’s rly doing something different just because it uses fancier language like codepedency and nihilistic characters. Being different doesn’t mean being good. I'm mostly an anime only guy, but I did end up reading vol14. While subtle, the motivations are at display in the anime. Hachiman being different from S1 is at the core of this story. Over the seasons he has changed. You are right, in S1, he didn't give a crap and did things he thought were right. But we see the repercussions of that in S2. That was one of the biggest themes in that season, Hachiman realizing how his methods were just wrong and not helping anyone but feed his own selfishness. We see that with what happened with Tobe, Rumi and Isshiki. His whole speech about wanting something genuine comes from his realization that his methods were and are wrong. Hachiman has had trouble expressing his feelings. We see that about him throughout the entire series. He's genuinely scared to do it. He has not yet come to terms with how he feels and how to express it. That is one of the most important growth we should get to see in the coming episodes. Him agreeing to grant Yukino's wish to grant Yui's wish was what he agreed upon in S1, and so he must follow through with it. He isn't trying to be nice. At this point in time, both we and Hachiman know that Yukino is haunted by codependency. And while not at full display according to LN readers, we see hints of Yukino thinking Yui is a better choice for him. We see the symbolic "letting him go" during the penguin scene. Hachiman at this point knows that if he were to confess, she would reject him. |
| I've just rewatched the episode now. Didn't have time last week to post here because I just got out of quarantine. With this episode, it's definitely the beginning of the end. We're entering the last arc of OreGairu. I can't believe we're already so near the end... I'm sad... Just when I think I finally understand how things look, Haruno is there to turn the entire table on its head. She always throws in thoughts that put my entire view of the situation in doubt. I guess that is Haruno for you. Hachiman's strategies never cease to amaze, even if they're not conventional and not what people would always consider 'good'. I might've misunderstood, but he did use the fact that he was victim of the accident caused by Yukinoshita's car to his advantage in convincing Yukino's mother right? And again, I thought I understood what was going on, especially from that opening scene with Hachiman explaining to Hayato why he was doing this. But once Yukino said that in the end, she still relied on him, I was presented with yet another way to see it, and something that's more correct I think. In the end, she still relied on him and had faith that he would solve it. In the end, she was still dependent on him. And now their relationship is at an end and she wants Hachiman to grant Yui's wish. But now I'm honestly confused, what is Yui's wish in this regard? From the PV for next episode, what I'm thinking currently is preserving the relationship for her. She gets Hachiman, and she maintains her friendship with Yukino? But she also wants the relationship of all three of them to remain intact. Is that what Yukino intends to do as well? The end game is finally here... |
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Shikkakku said: I've just rewatched the episode now. Didn't have time last week to post here because I just got out of quarantine. With this episode, it's definitely the beginning of the end. We're entering the last arc of OreGairu. I can't believe we're already so near the end... I'm sad... Just when I think I finally understand how things look, Haruno is there to turn the entire table on its head. She always throws in thoughts that put my entire view of the situation in doubt. I guess that is Haruno for you. Hachiman's strategies never cease to amaze, even if they're not conventional and not what people would always consider 'good'. I might've misunderstood, but he did use the fact that he was victim of the accident caused by Yukinoshita's car to his advantage in convincing Yukino's mother right? And again, I thought I understood what was going on, especially from that opening scene with Hachiman explaining to Hayato why he was doing this. But once Yukino said that in the end, she still relied on him, I was presented with yet another way to see it, and something that's more correct I think. In the end, she still relied on him and had faith that he would solve it. In the end, she was still dependent on him. And now their relationship is at an end and she wants Hachiman to grant Yui's wish. But now I'm honestly confused, what is Yui's wish in this regard? From the PV for next episode, what I'm thinking currently is preserving the relationship for her. She gets Hachiman, and she maintains her friendship with Yukino? But she also wants the relationship of all three of them to remain intact. Is that what Yukino intends to do as well? The end game is finally here... Yukino wants this to end. Her true wish is to be with Hachiman, but that would mean hurting Yui, her only friend. She is also high on "codependency" and wishes to remove herself from them so she can be independent. However, once they go their separate ways, given their personalities, they are unlikely to go back to how they were. Yui's wish is to still have everything- date Hachiman and keep Yukino as her friend. And yes, he did use the accident to his advantage. But from the smugness from her, it's safe to assume she's just going along with it for entertainment. |
| "We're in the endgame now" -Dr. Strange I feel like Haruno threw gasoline into the already burning flames. They could have solved it all without adult intervention but Haruno apparently has nothing better to do but butt into her sister's friendship circle/high schoolers. It's all about perspective. Hachiman wanted to "help" without directly helping. Yukino could have seen it from the other perspective but because of Haruno's intervening, she had to see it super cut-dry. Adding to this, Haruno was correct that Yui has to be the mature one. Basically, Yui is the main glue keeping the crew together. That broke Yui again :( I like how Hayama sounds like he's concern for Hachiman but it seems he's just more concern about Yukino. The meeting with Yukino's mom was actually super well-thought out by Hachiman. He knew he had a trump card so he can use a possible "favor" owed to him by the Yukinoshita's. Yukimom even saw through Hachiman's initial plan but still ended up giving Hachiman what he wanted. I feel like there was meeting at the PTO cut out for time but idk since I have not read the LN. On another note, Hachiman got seriously upset that Yukino went the route that she did considering Hachiman tried his best to satisfy everyone's wishes: keep the group going and prove the codependency wrong. However, it's sounds like Yukino just gave up her win to Yui directly. I want to know what Yui's wish is, if it is what I think it is. I just want to say, I'm not sure why Yukino is so freaking upset. She used to be independent and she was "fine." She found out she can rely on others and even happy because she was able to enjoy things she never thought she could, but then all of a sudden she can't be independent anymore cause she became so "codependent." There's a really good middle ground and that's all she needs to be happy. Beach episode lmao. So this is what Wataru was talking about when he said "there will be a fan-service episode" lmao. We got to see old characters like Ebina and Yumiko (had to look up the name again cause it's been a minute). This really is starting to feel like the end. Also, it feels like Iroha's overarching arc ended as well. |
zeron824Sep 3, 2020 11:37 AM
Knight said: Shikkakku said: I've just rewatched the episode now. Didn't have time last week to post here because I just got out of quarantine. With this episode, it's definitely the beginning of the end. We're entering the last arc of OreGairu. I can't believe we're already so near the end... I'm sad... Just when I think I finally understand how things look, Haruno is there to turn the entire table on its head. She always throws in thoughts that put my entire view of the situation in doubt. I guess that is Haruno for you. Hachiman's strategies never cease to amaze, even if they're not conventional and not what people would always consider 'good'. I might've misunderstood, but he did use the fact that he was victim of the accident caused by Yukinoshita's car to his advantage in convincing Yukino's mother right? And again, I thought I understood what was going on, especially from that opening scene with Hachiman explaining to Hayato why he was doing this. But once Yukino said that in the end, she still relied on him, I was presented with yet another way to see it, and something that's more correct I think. In the end, she still relied on him and had faith that he would solve it. In the end, she was still dependent on him. And now their relationship is at an end and she wants Hachiman to grant Yui's wish. But now I'm honestly confused, what is Yui's wish in this regard? From the PV for next episode, what I'm thinking currently is preserving the relationship for her. She gets Hachiman, and she maintains her friendship with Yukino? But she also wants the relationship of all three of them to remain intact. Is that what Yukino intends to do as well? The end game is finally here... Yukino wants this to end. Her true wish is to be with Hachiman, but that would mean hurting Yui, her only friend. She is also high on "codependency" and wishes to remove herself from them so she can be independent. However, once they go their separate ways, given their personalities, they are unlikely to go back to how they were. Yui's wish is to still have everything- date Hachiman and keep Yukino as her friend. And yes, he did use the accident to his advantage. But from the smugness from her, it's safe to assume she's just going along with it for entertainment. Ah, I understand. It seems I did get the gist of it after all. On Yukino's mom, I definitely think so too. I think it unlikely that Yukino's mom out of all people could be as easily guilt-tripped or manipulated like that. She definitely went along with it for her own pleasure. |
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| Man they are so bad in conveying their feelings especially our boy Hachiman he priotitizing mostly others now instead of himself,like you rather sacrifice yourself and what you really wants for the betterment of others. I kinda see myself to her its easy to say just reach your feelings to others but in real life its really hard when you always thinking and afraid of the outcome. Imagine being invited by pretty sensei what a lucky boy Hachiman! Also notice that they focusing more on Yui feelings and monologue than Yukino and even to Hachiman we as watcher should know what they really feels not just Yui. |
SOP-IISep 3, 2020 5:46 PM
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| Yukino told 8man won and also to grant Yui's wish...but at the end of the line it's gonna be MC's decision after all huh... oh man that tears of Yukino...HHNNNGGG! lolz 5/5. the overdramatic goes on! |
matias067Sep 3, 2020 7:44 PM
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Wonton90 said: I thought I understood his character but this season threw my off. Is he still as dense as he was in season one (not noticing Yui basically throwing herself at him) or does he know they're both interested and he's distancing himself on purpose? He knows. We've seen him reject Yui's advances throughout the series. We also get to see how uncomfortable he is with all of this. And yes, you are right. He is using her as a distraction, she's just a convenient excuse. |
Wonton90 said: Tsuukaku-Zanryuu said: Man they are so bad in conveying their feelings especially our boy Hachiman he priotitizing mostly others now instead of himself,like you rather sacrifice yourself and what you really wants for the betterment of others. I kinda see myself to her its easy to say just reach your feelings to others but in real life its really hard when you always thinking and afraid of the outcome. I thought I understood his character but this season threw my off. Is he still as dense as he was in season one (not noticing Yui basically throwing herself at him) or does he know they're both interested and he's distancing himself on purpose? Even from the start of the series he dont like cheerful girls like Yui and look how uncomfortable 8man to her compared to Yukinon. Also he knows it its just the anime didnt blatantly showing it to the viewers especially to non novel readers they want them to guess his true feelings. |
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| Away with this codependency bullshit! They are teenagers ffs, they should act spontaneously based on their emotions, not to ponder over literally everything thousand times before the act. Honestly, I'm torn with this episode. One one hand it was interesting battle of minds effectively bringing means to the end while still leading to stalemate, but on the other hand it was artificial shit with high-school characters speaking like they were chess figures carefully planning each of their coming moves. This series almost feels like old-school RPG when you have to go through all challenges, clear all the stages and defeat all bosses to get to the one and only possible end. But this is not how real life works. Good for Hachiman that he found a way through Yukinoshita mother defenses (I completely forgot about that car accident in the beginning) but with Haruno's meddling and Yukino x Hachiman conversation later I can't help myself but facepalm. It almost feels like they are doing the exact opposite of what they want and I literally struggle to find any sense in their in-series decisions. The moreso when it effectively lead nowhere as a) Hachiman helped her anyway, b] she didn't grow at all. tl;dr: whole this arc was meaningless as it try to prove they should stop their unhealthy relationship yet effectively this all leads to them all being unhappy. In fact, Yui is probably the only normal character in this gordic knot. Yet I can't see her happy either as if her wish is to be granted they will be all together again. Meanwhile Iroha became almost completely irelevant in this season, sigh. Interesting part about Hayama being literally the one who is responsible for Haruno today. But again, all of this are just devices for plot to work and more than real life it feel like social puzzle all characters have to navigate. Have to say Yukino is the least likeable at this point. She really should seek psychiatrist as what she's doing all the time is really unhealthy. Honestly, at this point, I would say their relationship is beyond saving as everything is so convoluted I can't picture them having healthy relationship anytime in the future, so their splitting from each other is probably the only good choice. The preview was really promising, hinting Hiki and Yui date (he keeps blushing near to her if that's to mean anything, he just can have fun with Yukino at all). But as with tons of similiar romance dramas, we all know the girl that gets to the spotlight before the end is actually the one that lose and I honestly hate it as throughout all the series there was very little that would provide any room for romantic development between Hachiman and Yukino, in fact, such scenes were pretty much non-existent so it seems they would be forcing things in the end. |
| I am honestly quiet unsatisfied by how fast the end game had been launched up for them, really, i had a bad taste on my mouth with whatever happened on this one! However, i might take some positivity, the end should be launched. 4 episodes left. It seems the real deal of their competition ended up being a misleading again, as expected, their youth life was wrong. So, with Yukino's last word finally been released, and my boy Hachiman just aggreed with it, its over for me. The rest was their truth conclusion, until its last seconds of chance. Well, i am bit trippy again. But what could i do to prevent it? Its just how Oregairu resolved their plot into some unconvinient condition. Shit. Its too heavy! Lets see how they respond in the next episode! Tldr: The first scene conversation absolutely increased my mood. But, Hachiman denied it. Yukino sister, once again, solidified the reason again. Once again, everyone just ignored it. However, Yui need more explanations, but ended up in more confussion for her. Ah, Yukino sister really love to play around. Nice mention, Hayato. Tldr 2: The beach scenes were nice. Ebina had an appearance again which was too good to be true. And her words for Hachiman, indeed a true blessings for me! Ah, if only she had more screen time. But, to hell with her. Its about Hachiman with her duo angel correlations! The finalization somehow ended up too fast. I am a bit unsatisfied. However, the real deal against Yukino mother surely gave me such an intensed feeling. Damn, Hachiman. I never expected you to used your past as your Ace Card. But, somehow its just resonated very well with Yukino's mother intentions. Yeah, they both reach a deal. The climax of their prom problems finally reach its end. Thank you very much! After that, yes, its the final deal of Yukino. No. I don't want it to be a final. They must teased so hard into thinking she just surrender like that. So, i shall skipped it to see what the fuck was goin on in the next episode! However, Hachiman must be knewing the real intentions of her. And he must be satisfied me, once again, at their final seconds! Lets see the next episode first, then! I am too much comment the nonsense again. Forgive me! |
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| ok so prom is approved, and it finally looks like things will progress with both the prom and the love triangle. I guess these final 4 episodes will be great. |
| White Album 2 once again , but with happy end this time? |
| I hate everyone equally |
| Hachiman words in the beginning about his "determination of man" tho..... :D and.. beach photoshoot yeay.., nice to see some old faces like Ebina & Yumiko, and somehow Hayato once again kinda annoying on insisting about the 3 codependency, especaily when he likes Yukino i assume ?... it seems, 8man "won" the battle because of his plan succeed on making Yukino's prom get accepted. still.. in the end the rollercoaster feeling came again from Yukino this time... she asked 8man to fullfill Yui wishes her expression was beautiful yet sad and the same time... Can't wait to see 8man resolve on this... |
r16fourarmSep 26, 2020 8:02 PM
| Yes more leg screentime..that was an amazing episode, still Yukino was not happy about it and they had an amazing friendship Yukino wanted to grant Yui's wish that was truly depressing..ahhh can't wait to watch it tomorrow. |
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| Endgame flag. Sheeesh. |
| His plan really so extreme but in the end he lost and help Yukinon again. 8man is still have a strong self-confidence. |
| The part when Hikigaya was talking to Yukino's mom was by far the best this episode. |
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| I guess that was... pretty touching actually. |
  NYANPASU  whiskey tango foxtrot |
| This is rly strange. Yukino knows the wish of Yui that she would want to be girlfriend of Hikki, but she doesn't know that her other wish is three of them keep spending time together? Then I bet that Hikki doesn't know any of the girls wishes. So how can he just walk away and go try to grant Yui wish if he doesn't get it? Not to mention that Yui knows also that Yukino likes Hikigaya. Only no one knows that Yukino doesn't know what she want ;] |
| (づ￣ ³￣)づ ちゅっ ちゅっ キス (´｡✪ω✪｡｀) I hate it when anime/manga that I enjoyed ends, especially when there could be much longer plot and when I love main heroine :P I wish I had magic glasses that let me see real world in anime colors ;) |
| That ended fast what just happened,I either missed that car accident or they just never showed it, and if Yukinoshita's mother persuade them can she make them accept the prom in the first place? this drama I hope it ends in a good way. |
NakolHira said: Raizel said: car accident was shown in the first season, Remember what led to Hachiman saying "I hate nice girls"? It was THIS accident. (S1 ep4-5)That ended fast what just happened,I either missed that car accident or they just never showed it, and if Yukinoshita's mother persuade them can she make them accept the prom in the first place? this drama I hope it ends in a good way. You sure are fast, I guess just shows how much you love the series, anyway thanks for the info. |
| Hachiman lost but at least the prom arc is close to an end. I fucking hate Yukino's mom. |
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| Well I'm quite nervous about how this going to end, but I felt that something is missing. Like why more of Yukino's family is in the part of the story rather than Yui's family. |
| I think only Hachiman's cat hasn't cried yet. |
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