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Mar 28, 2020 6:34 AM
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My mean average is around 6 but I don't think that I m a harsh scorer bcoz most of anime are shit
Mar 28, 2020 6:38 AM
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Way too generous.
I love my trash, but I still acknowledge what it is. I just don't rate it accordingly.

My mean score is also pretty damn high, at 6.2...
Mar 28, 2020 6:38 AM

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Very generous. When I enjoy an anime at least to some extent, I will simply give it a 6 or more often a 7. Even if an anime has blatant flaws. lol
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Mar 28, 2020 6:42 AM
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Meira_Eve said:
My mean score is 8.53

You can conclude it yourself.. ._. XD

I also fall under this category. I am really generous to anime... But harsh towards trash anime like - recently watched show Kill la Kill got 9 for its non-stop maniac fighting. Again Inu x Boku SS got only 6. Inu x Boku SS is really superbly overrated by my judgment.

So I am generally generous.
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Mar 28, 2020 6:42 AM

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Well, my mean score is at 7.99 so I guess I'm pretty generous (on the other hand I don't hesitate to rate harshly shows I dislike, but I just pick carefully what I watch so far)
Mar 28, 2020 6:43 AM

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I would consider myself as fair in most cases.

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Mar 28, 2020 6:45 AM

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Generosity is an illusion, because each time the average is changed as well. You can simply normalize your ratings by determining the median, and define it as a 5.0. That holds for all ratings ever cast, and this is precisely how anidb.net normalizes their official ratings for display. So my approach from the start is to spread out my rating around 5/10, because that way after normalization the deltas remain maxed. And that is what really matters then, deltas between two rated items. If you rate everything high, that will be mercilessly made mediocre by normalization, and you shot your own foot.

The psychological problem of numerical rating systems is that you create "value" out of thin air, and that makes people think they can be "generous" at no cost. That's a mathematical illusion only.
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Mar 28, 2020 6:56 AM

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simonitro said:
Personally, I can be really generous with my scores. I have plenty of shows that are 7 and up and very rarely I give out shows below 5.

I can still bring scores down depending on my enjoyability. For example, "Hamelin no Violin Hiki" started out as a 7 but as I kept on watching, I brought it down to 5. On the flip-side, "Koisuru Asteroid" started as a 7 and then pushed it up to 8 and same goes for "22/7".

Personally, I do let a lot fly depending on how much I enjoy particular show. In regards of Death Note, I'm not really fond of the last couple of episodes of the Anime but still, it scored high 8.

The only thing that I've ever given "1" was Neon Genesis Evangelion: End of Evangelion.

So, where do you stand? Are you generous or are you harsh depending on you average score?


Dude you triggered me, why giving a 1 to that solid anime movie ? DIDNt you watch the series ?


Yes, I did watch the show and even given the series a solid 8. You could say, I did prefer the series' ending more than the movie.

In the movie, Shinji couldn't get more annoying throughout. The series' ending kinda made him a bit more respectable but the movie, he was so deplorable that it got me frustrated to no end. There wasn't an Anime series or movie that got me so pissed off. The whole mish-mash of abstract stuff that was happening, it got way to overblown. So, anywho... yeah, I didn't like the movie unlike the series.

So, it is what it is.
Mar 28, 2020 7:01 AM

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I'm extremely harsh, as my ratings and mean score show it.
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simonitro said:
Personally, I can be really generous with my scores. I have plenty of shows that are 7 and up and very rarely I give out shows below 5.

I can still bring scores down depending on my enjoyability. For example, "Hamelin no Violin Hiki" started out as a 7 but as I kept on watching, I brought it down to 5. On the flip-side, "Koisuru Asteroid" started as a 7 and then pushed it up to 8 and same goes for "22/7".

Personally, I do let a lot fly depending on how much I enjoy particular show. In regards of Death Note, I'm not really fond of the last couple of episodes of the Anime but still, it scored high 8.

The only thing that I've ever given "1" was Neon Genesis Evangelion: End of Evangelion.

So, where do you stand? Are you generous or are you harsh depending on you average score?
I don't even give a score until I'm done watching something and enough time has passed after that for my opinion to coalesce into something simple.

And it all depends on enjoyability/appreciability, but for me I think I'm relatively generous about it. If I've bothered to watch all of it, it's probably something I enjoyed anyway.

But, like you, I hated End of Evangelion.
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Mar 28, 2020 7:07 AM
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Yah pretty generous considering my mean score is 7.sonething
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Mar 28, 2020 7:08 AM

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My main score is 8.41. If I like an anime, I rate 7 or more

Mar 28, 2020 7:24 AM
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My mean score has gone down a lot and it's still on 8.06, so I guess I'm a generous scorer
Mar 28, 2020 7:25 AM

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I think how harsh on rates is hard to tell from their scores because it's more about what those scores mean to them and their actual attitude to the score.

For instance, as you can see from my sig, I gave BOFURI a 4/10. But I don't hate it or think it's bad. The girls are really cute and the production quality is very good. But my raw enjoyment was very low after the first few episodes and I didn't really get any other value about of the show like emotional highs, comedy, iyashikei, or thematic depth. So I gave it a 4 which on my scale is a show which only just avoided totally boring me. I rate 99% o stuff from 3-10 where 3 is bored and the amount of enjoyment goes up. I don't consider anything on my list from 3-10 as "bad", just more or less enjoyable. I keep the 1-2 scores open for stuff that I feel genuine animosity towards.

So, even if someone might see my score for BOFURI as harsh, it really isn't. But to someone else, a score of 4 might mean they really hate a show.

To answer the question, I don't think I'm especially generous or harsh. In fact I don't think the concepts really apply. I have a system and I rate by that. When a ruler measures something it isn't being generous or harsh, is it?
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Mar 28, 2020 7:26 AM

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Bit of both. As a whole, I think I'm fairly generous, in that it's pretty easy to get at least a score of 6-7 from me. But I'm nitpicky too. I can love a show to pieces, but still recognize that it has issues, so I've never used the 10 rating.

On the other hand, I can be pretty harsh to shows that annoy me. I used to de-score shows I dropped after just an episode or two because I didn't want to affect the rating for people who might actually like them (and just in case they'd improve later on). But I recently found out that your score doesn't count unless you've seen 1/5 of the episodes, so I went back and re-rated the ones I still had strong opinions on. That was only 3-4 shows, but it brought my mean score down from 6.83 to 6.78, lol.
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Mar 28, 2020 7:30 AM
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Generous I give a lot of higher scores than you'd think
Mar 28, 2020 7:32 AM

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If I watched more anime than I do currently, my average score would likely plummet to a 4 on average given how picky I am!

Like, I think I've only watched at best 5 total anime per year for a long while and I barely touch anything that I don't like at a glance. Low-tier anime like the regular seasonal shit would normally just get between 5-3 scores with me, so i think I'm fairly harsh despite my average score being a little above 6.
Mar 28, 2020 7:33 AM
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inim said:
Generosity is an illusion, because each time the average is changed as well. You can simply normalize your ratings by determining the median, and define it as a 5.0. That holds for all ratings ever cast, and this is precisely how anidb.net normalizes their official ratings for display. So my approach from the start is to spread out my rating around 5/10, because that way after normalization the deltas remain maxed. And that is what really matters then, deltas between two rated items. If you rate everything high, that will be mercilessly made mediocre by normalization, and you shot your own foot.

The psychological problem of numerical rating systems is that you create "value" out of thin air, and that makes people think they can be "generous" at no cost. That's a mathematical illusion only.

I mean yeah, but what does your heart say?

Seriously, from a human standpoint, sitting through a lot of shows you find mediocre doesn't make sense. What makes more sense is that you mostly start and finish anime you are already interested in, or you could enjoy in some ways.
And most times I don't score it, if I haven't finished it or think I've seen enough of it.

Watching and finishing everything just for the sake of it, sounds like a very unhealthy and completely time-wasting habit to me.
I tried another rating system, but got back to me old one, because the shows I could have given a 5 aren't average in my eyes. They got redeeming qualities, both in story-aspects and also art, animation and sound. That's why I kept watching some anime, even if they never became some of my favorites.

Looking at your own list and actually thinking that most you have seen falls between bad and mediocre, sounds just ... sad to me.
Even if many of these may have only 12 episodes, you wasted 4 hours on every anime, where you couldn't even think that it deserves a 6 and it's fine like it is. Or that it is "just fine".
Mar 28, 2020 7:41 AM

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I'm very GENEROUS with scoring a show, as long as I enjoy what I'm watching I can give it 1+ 2+ more in score then it really deserves.

A good example woud be No Game No Life and Overlord, they are far from a 10/10 show. But as I enjoy them as much as I did, I rated them 10/10.

But, I'm very harash with the rating too.


Might be hard to see, but this shows, is a huge disappointment, they might be worth a bit of a higher raiting. Then what I have been scoring them, but as it feels like studios is just wasting money, time and more time to create this pieces of shit. I just get angry and slam on a low score. It's shows that shoud never shoud have been created. And thanks to this feeling the scoring of the shows becomes very harsh.

My meanscore have gone down from 5.90 to 5,87 in less then 3 days, and thats all thanks to how much shit each season is releasing. And how it impact my feelings of rating shows.

Mar 28, 2020 8:07 AM

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There's no reason not to score "harshly." Quit permeating garbage or shit that's not worth it. Instead, forward what you think is actually good as much as possible.

A 2/10 to me is prestigious. Shows I don't like or care for don't deserve anything more than a 1/10.

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Mar 28, 2020 8:38 AM

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Generous, even if I hated something I try to look at all the things that I DID like about it. For example, elfen lied would be lower than a 3 if I didn’t find the concept of the Diclonius cool. I’m not afraid to rate lower than a 5, but normally it’s a 6-7 if I can find at least a few good things about it.
Mar 28, 2020 8:52 AM

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Mmmm, I don't know. Generous maybe...
Mar 28, 2020 8:54 AM

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There's no reason not to score "harshly." Quit permeating garbage or shit that's not worth it. Instead, forward what you think is actually good as much as possible.

A 2/10 to me is prestigious. Shows I don't like or care for don't deserve anything more than a 1/10.
Sir, you got my respect for having a lower mean score than mine
Mar 28, 2020 8:58 AM

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Edocchi said:
karkki_ said:
There's no reason not to score "harshly." Quit permeating garbage or shit that's not worth it. Instead, forward what you think is actually good as much as possible.

A 2/10 to me is prestigious. Shows I don't like or care for don't deserve anything more than a 1/10.
Sir, you got my respect for having a lower mean score than mine


Pfft, casual. Better step your game up. I'll spare you because you have Aikatsu in your favorites.

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Mar 28, 2020 9:03 AM

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I use MAL scoring pretty literally so a 7 is "good" and a 6 is "fine". Most anime I watch fall into either a 6 or 7. I think that's being pretty generous because there are some people whos mean scores are like a 5.5 or something compared to my 6.8.
Mar 28, 2020 9:04 AM
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An honest scorer, which would be considered "harsh" by the standards of most users.
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yes but only generous to anime i like
Mar 28, 2020 9:05 AM

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I stopped scoring Anime. It made me not enjoy things as much cause I was too busy thinking critically about it. I removed all my scores as well so completely blank.
Mar 28, 2020 9:09 AM

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ogle's at 4.34 mean score Yeah I'm quite the generous one.


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Mar 28, 2020 9:13 AM

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inim said:
Generosity is an illusion, because each time the average is changed as well. (...) The psychological problem of numerical rating systems is that you create "value" out of thin air, and that makes people think they can be "generous" at no cost.
I mean yeah, but what does your heart say?
My heart says that my ratings, plus minus some taste related variations, are very close to anidb.net's normalized ratings. Which means they are on average about 2 points below MAL's ratings. Which is perfectly fine, I maintain my list for myself and not to counterweight what I consider a broken rating algorithm on MAL. anidb.net displays both, rating and not normalized numerical averages, and MAL long term has no option to do the same. Otherwise, eternal rating arms race and inflation renders the scores completely meaningless.

You can use the two of us as examples. We have > 70% affinity, on over 220+ shared items, with an absolute rating difference of 1.9 over our shared set. If you look at the affinity formula, you'll see that it also has that calculation of the average and adapting absolute scores relative to your personal average before comparing. It basically compares the deltas of your ratings to your average rating and not the raw numbers. That means our lists are pretty similar, except for the fact they are shifted by 2 in absolute terms. You are free to use 7 as "average", but I personally prefer to use 5. And that's pretty much the only difference we have :)

As for bad shows, I don't really watch too many bad TV shows because like you say they take long. But I love trashy 20th century OVAs, and rating range 1 to 3 is pretty much where they are. MALGraph has a good plot in which you can see how much watchtime you spend in each of your rating classes. Me too spent most absolute time in 7s, disproportional much time in 8+s (because longer shows tend to get higher ratings from me), and very little time in my 1-3s. But I have many 1-3s because most are shorts and OVAs. Again, this makes perfect sense to me.

And a 6 is not "just fine". Only 326 of 798 (40.8%) anime on my list have a rating of 6 or better. On your list 706 of 1002 (70.2%) have ratings of 7 or better. Which means my 6 is "worth" more than your 7, relatively. And after normalization, only relative difference matters. Maybe I'm cursed because I have a college degree in science and not psychology, but to me that all feels very natural :)

I export my ratings to anilist and anidb, so I don't work around the lousy MAL formula. I deliver very good raw data in the sense that it is well distributed, and leave it to the servers to make the best of it. Some do better, some do worse - but why would I care?
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Neither,I guess.I rate/score shows according to the MAL scoring system where 5 is average.So I should be in between of a generous scorer and a harsh scorer.
Mar 28, 2020 9:16 AM
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First of all I use 1-10 scale unlike many pple... I have given 1 score to around 10 shows while the worthy of 10/10 are only two franchise...with around 15 shows to 9 score & both 5 & 7 score to 100+ shows each.. I have watched 370+ shows with mean score being 6.05...So, You can I'm neither harsh nor genorous.....
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I wouldn't consider myself generous regardless that I mostly score what I watch pretty decently. I just simply score depending on how much I enjoyed a show and think nothing else of it.
Mar 28, 2020 9:21 AM
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MAL ratings are way high.. Like 7.8 score should be a very good show...But in MAL anything lower than 8 is garbage (except for few). Should learn from IMDB....
Mar 28, 2020 9:24 AM
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Probably somewhere in the middle, leaning a bit towards harsh. Even some of my favorite shows ever have issues that keep me from rating them as high as I would want. I'm just a bit more negative when it comes to actually seeing something worthwhile. I tend to focus on problems more so than merits.
Mar 28, 2020 9:26 AM

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In my point of view, I am fair with my score. I score according to the MAL scale and if i like some show i just give it a 6 or more. Nothing complicated. If I dont like a show I just dont watch it anymore and many times happens that I dont even lose my time putting it on my dropped list.
Mar 28, 2020 9:39 AM
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Normal, I give cancer 1's, acceptable stuff 5's and outstanding stuff 10's
Mar 28, 2020 9:40 AM

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0seveN said:
MAL ratings are way high.. Like 7.8 score should be a very good show...But in MAL anything lower than 8 is garbage (except for few). Should learn from IMDB....


Anything above 7 is varying degrees of good.
7 is just good, 6 is okay, 5 is mediocre.
Anything below 5 is varying degrees of bad.

It's not rocket science.

OT: I think I'm fair, bordering on generous. Sometimes I give extra credit points to shows that don't appeal to me personally but still have artistic merit such as Haibane Renmei or Welcome to the NHK.

If I strongly dislike it, usually I drop it unrated instead of punishing myself by watching the entire thing.
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0seveN said:
MAL ratings are way high.. Like 7.8 score should be a very good show...But in MAL anything lower than 8 is garbage (except for few). Should learn from IMDB....
The garbage to not garbage ratio is just as high for shows above 8 as below.
Mar 28, 2020 10:02 AM

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I consider myself pretty generous.I score solely based on enjoyment and production values.I just use the complete MAL scale unlike plebs.If a show is mediocre you give it a 5 and not a 7.
Mine scale used to be in 7.x range but after following seasonals it started tanking.
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Edocchi said:
Sir, you got my respect for having a lower mean score than mine


Pfft, casual. Better step your game up. I'll spare you because you have Aikatsu in your favorites.
I never know being called casual feels this great.
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Mar 28, 2020 10:12 AM

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I consider myself a more harsh scorer, but I'm honestly a bit of both sides, tbh.
Mar 28, 2020 10:14 AM

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on the generous side. yet to give a 1... i always think about the effort that went into making it and feel bad lmao
Mar 28, 2020 10:21 AM

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For some reason I read 'Sorcerer' instead of 'Scorer' and was wondering what the fuck OP is talking about xD.


But I'm definitely a very generous scorer, it's fairly easy to get a 6 or 7 from me as long as I'm mildly entertained and quite hard to get a score lower than 5 from me. Because 5 for me just means I didn't care, wasn't interested or got bored, but without actively disliking any elements. I think many people would give worse scores than 5 to stuff that kinda bored them.
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Mar 28, 2020 10:24 AM

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I am pretty generous it's just that I don't watch good anime.

Mar 28, 2020 10:25 AM
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I guess I would consider myself kind of generous since I rate shows based on enjoyment
Mar 28, 2020 10:27 AM

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Unless a series is completely awful I am a pretty generous scorer.
Mar 28, 2020 10:29 AM
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The funny thing is when I started watching anime, I was extremely harsh with my scores. (To be honest, I have no idea why I continued), but over time my scores have become more" soft". I use the full 1-10 score where 5 is mediocre and very rarely nowadays an anime get an 8, let alone a 10. So I would say somewhere in the middle currently.
Mar 28, 2020 10:31 AM
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Mean score: 6.52
Take that as you will
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I'm very generous, because I generally only rate shows I watch to completion, and if I really don't like a show to the point of giving it a bad rating, I'd drop it beforehand.


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