| You know how every anime fan has this problem with anime adaptations not following the source material faithfully. The question is, has there been an unfaithful anime adaptation that you think made some good alterations from its source material? Violet Evergarden spoiler |
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| Well the original Chuunibyou novels didn't even have Dekomori as a character (or at the very least she was added after the anime) and given how she's pretty much the best character in the show I see it as a plus Also Akame ga Kill's ending I thought was done better in the anime than the manga. Manga's ending was a whole pile of wtf Same as above with Tokyo Ghoul:re. Ending was done better in the anime imo. In fairness, it was a more faithful adaptation than the 2 above, but it still had its inconsistencies |
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| I don't know if removing parts of manga counts as good changes but I liked Koe no Katachi anime more and think they just removed unnecessary parts... |
| I liked Tokyo Ghoul Root A because Kaneki commits suicide by cop at the end. |
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| Oniisama e... is my best example of this. The manga is really short and the adaptation adds a ton of stuff, making the characters way more interesting in the process. Hell, my favourite scene from the show wasn't in the manga ( ). Rose of Versailles makes a bunch of changes too, and I mostly like them. Some of the characters really benefit from how they got altered in the anime (Jeanne especially), and also the Duke of Orleans got turned into an actual character which is nice (he has such a minor role in the manga that when I first saw him in the anime I though he was an original character lol). They did cut some stuff but most of it is insignificant in the end, though Bernard Chatelet kinda got the short end of the stick there. Also the subplot they added was stupid, but it's a pretty minor thing. |
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| In the Clannad visual novel, Kotomi is an A cup, but in the anime she's a D cup. I'd say that's a good change. |
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| The Chrono Crusade anime took the christian symbolism that was present in the manga just for the sake of looking cool and built an original plot on it, while remaining faithful to the core themes of the manga's plot. Not to mention, it actually makes an interesting commentary on religion and blind faith that isn't simply "religion is bad" or "God is evil" as you would typically expect from a japanese work's take on religion. |
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MadHobbit2 said: Lol, boobfag.In the Clannad visual novel, Kotomi is an A cup, but in the anime she's a D cup. I'd say that's a good change. Flat is justice, justice I say. |
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L_O_V_E_L_A_I_N said: Rose of Versailles makes a bunch of changes too, and I mostly like them. Some of the characters really benefit from how they got altered in the anime (Jeanne especially), and also the Duke of Orleans got turned into an actual character which is nice (he has such a minor role in the manga that when I first saw him in the anime I though he was an original character lol). They did cut some stuff but most of it is insignificant in the end, though Bernard Chatelet kinda got the short end of the stick there. Also the subplot they added was stupid, but it's a pretty minor thing. Exactly! I also like how the anime went more in-depth into Oscar's early years than the manga. Also, I liked how I haven't finished Sailor Moon manga, and I have only watched the two first seasons of the anime, but I feel there is more depth to the characters in the anime. The manga seems to focused on Usagi, and the other senshi's characterizations are kinda flat. |
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| Rurouni Kenshin: Trust and Betrayal removed most of the comedy relief in the manga and added a fuckload of symbolism |
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| Ao no Kanata no Four Rhythm (a.k.a. "Aokana: Four Rhythm Across the Blue") is originally a romance visual novel set against backdrop of characters engaging with each other in the fictional sport of Flying Circus. The lead character is a boy who has a history with the sport but who doesn't play anymore, and I think even in the VN he ends up coaching the other characters instead. And there are four romanceable girls (let's call them "new girl", "girl who plays for fun", "girl who tags along with girl B", and "freshman girl at neighboring but better school"). And yes, you can end up in bed with each of them. For the anime series... instead of picking a route, or making a harem story without picking a route, or picking a fifth route, or portraying multiple routes (a la Yosuga no Sora), the anime series just makes it not about romance altogether. There are possible hints of romance if you look for them, but they're very definitely not the focus. Instead, the series focuses on the sport. A lot of detail is shown of how the people approach the sport, the strategy involved, the various techniques they use and what those techniques are called and what effects they have, and so on. The story is primarily about the new girl discovering her love and talent for the sport, and how she faces and responds to the challenges and experiences of her life with the school's Flying Circus team. But the show also gives time to the male lead, exploring his personal history with the sport. And it also explores the journeys of the girl who plays for fun (how she responds to the pressures of competing), and the girl who tags along with aforementioned girl (who gradually developers her own enjoyment of and knack for the sport, growing more independent of her self-designated senpai). The girl from the neighboring school moves in next door to the male lead and gets a couple "accidentally naked" gag moments early on, but the bulk of her characterization is about her becoming a close friend of another one of the characters, and growing a camaraderie between the schools. And the other students from that girl's school, particularly their #1 and #2, are important characters, as well as the main school's team prez(?) and manager and also their teacher sponsor(?). And finally, there's eventually another character who is arguably added to the "harem" by the end that isn't actually a harem (because it's not a group of girls surrounding the male lead for romance purposes) but is actually just a group of FC players who feel strong bonds of friendship with each other such that they'd get together for a photo when hanging out. I really liked my journey through this. I legit want to get myself a pair of grav-shoes to play Flying Circus. It just feels so fun, in a very pleasant, happy way. I later discovered that the VN was a romance VN and I was downright confused, how could a romance story even make sense here, with this story and with these characters. It would feel shoehorned, in my opinion. I guess it's possible, obviously, but I think that that would feel tacked onto everything else that I know about this setting. And frankly speaking some of the characters seem a bit young for me to imagine them really getting so deep into romantic relationships -- on the other hand given their age I'd honestly more so expect them to behave like they did in the TV show (e.g. with the two underclass students from different schools becoming close friends). I can see a romance blooming between the male lead and some of these romanceable characters, but it would make more sense as either something that grows out of a more extensive personal relationship beyond the scope of this story (e.g. the male lead and the "new girl" becoming romantically involved after their coach/athlete relationship has become a thing they're both comfortable with), or a random factor like "one day I suddenly felt very attracted to you" and then stuff happens. |
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| Mahou Tsukai no Yome - the adaptation was loyal for the most part, even if some key scenes were fast forwarded through. The pleasant change was the ending of the anime, it ended different from where the manga left off. With this ending, while I think it was a pleasant change, it also gives an excuse to the executives not to make a 2nd season, which I hope they will not take advantage of. |
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| @Tohsaka_Rukia talking about Violet Evergarden, i'm glad they didn't flat out made . I know there was that scene at the end of the last episode, but they kept it ambigous enough. |
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| Girls Bravo (anime) has wrestling matches. The manga has a gardening contest. |
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| Definitely K-ON. While the anime still adapts everything form the manga in season 1, the show is filled with anime original scenes and all the stuff taken from the manga are actually my least favorites since the manga kinda... sucks. The second season was it's own story made by the people working on the anime and it's fantastic. This is the greatest example of the anime being better than the manga. |
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| Why "unfaithful"? Is it really a trusting issue? I don't think so. A real "art work" from an "author" would have him/her (the director) appropriate the original material and use it to offer either his own perspective on the message/themes he perceived in the original or going even further away by expressing his/her own ideas or seting his/her own themes through a similar setting. It happens with movies, and nobody takes grudges (except some hardcore Stephen King fans, maybe). Also, the person can align every event from the original book or whatever and produce something highly unfaithful in the way he decided to render it on screen. Take a look at Death Note or Shingeki no Kyôjin (although it is less apparent there). To answer the question: Hiatari Ryôkô! because L_O_V_E_L_A_I_N said: The manga is really short and the adaptation adds a ton of stuff. This way,the scope of the story is enlarged. Of course, it adds a bit of teen drama for nothing at times but that's the price for making a 50eps show from a 3 pocket books series. Digimon Adventure, the movie then the TV series that followed. First, it's pretty baarebones but the movie is still very well done and it's funny to see what you can extract from a simple electronic child toy (a virtual pet). And the TV series built on that even more. It's very standard stuff (coming-of-age adventure / fantasy quest / ensemble story / angels VS demons) and the characters are rather thin, due to the number of characters (each being different, due to the way the quest progresses) but I still see it as pretty good feat. Chrono Crusade: various changes here and there (plus the final segment) but GONZO delivered a rather interesting evolution to the initial situation. "Hagaren" 2004: interesting ideas were developed from the manga's ingredients. Too bad you can feel the transition so strongly between the more manga-based half and the second half. Because of that, it still seems restrained a bit. A better planification (although I admit there are probably some apparently planned elements) would have helped to create a more cohesive series but this is still preetty good (thanks to the fact the transition point was integrated around the mandatory halfpoint's turnabout/revelation). |
Rei_IIIJul 5, 2019 7:43 AM
| Seconding Tokyo Ghoul Root A. I'm a lot happier pretending the series ended there and that :re never happened. |
| "good" is a subjective idea here, more than in most cases since half this site's filled with purists who despise any deviation altering a work when adapting it is almost always necessary and generally a good idea, though take advantage of what the medium is best at, don't just do a copy-paste even for those who love the source material, a direct recreation wouldn't be satisfactory there are reasons why shows like dm crybaby are regarded highly and outside of animation, the lotr films and movies like the shining |
| The k-on anime actually added in a lot of its own scenes instead of directly following the manga and it turned out far superior in my opinion. |
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| Since we're talking about adaptations, the 2006's Fate/stay night which I actually considered it a 40% unfaithful adaptation. I only gave it a 40% since it did stayed with the Fate route and adapted majority of the scenes quite well. (Too bad about the church scene though and the confession scene was much more intense in the VN) One of the changes I actually like in the show is the toned-down arguments between Shirou and Saber. They argued way more in the VN which annoyed me a lot. Mainly when they're running away from Berserker and during their date (not AFTER the date since that one is really important). The VN is still the better one (duh) but this is one change that I really like. There's also the scene when Shirou is teaching Saber how to cook which I absolutely love and actually wished it was in the VN. |
Mikura39Jul 6, 2019 8:48 PM
 Help, I'm hooked into the Fate series (not all) and am obsessed with Shirou x Saber! Also, forever hoping for a ufotable remake of the Fate route! |
TheKawaiiToon said: desusama said: I liked Tokyo Ghoul Root A because Kaneki commits suicide by cop at the end. Umm have you even seen Tokyo Ghoul Re? Then again, don't. I've read the manga but honestly that's the only possible outcome of an S rated Ghoul holding a dead body in front of nearly every high ranking CCG member. |
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Short_Circut said: Tokyo ghoul re s2 was the worst adaptation I've ever seen in *my life*. Fitting so many chapters in one episode with average animation. WTF. That too in a psychological anime.Well the original Chuunibyou novels didn't even have Dekomori as a character (or at the very least she was added after the anime) and given how she's pretty much the best character in the show I see it as a plus Also Akame ga Kill's ending I thought was done better in the anime than the manga. Manga's ending was a whole pile of wtf Same as above with Tokyo Ghoul:re. Ending was done better in the anime imo. In fairness, it was a more faithful adaptation than the 2 above, but it still had its inconsistencies |
Short_Circut said: Tokyo ghoul re s2 was the worst adaptation I've ever seen in *my life*. Fitting so many chapters in one episode with average animation. WTF. That too in a psychological anime.Well the original Chuunibyou novels didn't even have Dekomori as a character (or at the very least she was added after the anime) and given how she's pretty much the best character in the show I see it as a plus Also Akame ga Kill's ending I thought was done better in the anime than the manga. Manga's ending was a whole pile of wtf Same as above with Tokyo Ghoul:re. Ending was done better in the anime imo. In fairness, it was a more faithful adaptation than the 2 above, but it still had its inconsistencies |
| 1) The First season of Black Butler was made while the manga wasn't much too far in it's publication which meant that the ending of the Curry contest Arc and the rest was completly original. Yet, they managed too make the most satysfying ending any fan of the series could ask back then .... They had to f**k it up with an horrible 2nd season though xD THANKFULLY, they redeemed themselves with the 3rd season being the actual follow-up to the curry constest Arc in the manga. 2) I know some people have a certain disdain for the series adaptation of SAO Alicization by A1 Pictures (Like usual lol), but one change they made from the LN in episode 4 or 5 if memory serves right, is where Kirito went with Selka to discuss during the celebration. Originally, Kirito ended up kissing her on her forehead to "prove" is loyalty to Asuna, but they "X" that moment in the adaptation for a simple heartfelt conversation. Also, Eugeo talk with Selka before quitting his village wasn't present in the LN. |
| Highschool DxD The Legendary Juggernaut Drive that levels continents and wipes out armies is no longer turned off by a fucking kid's tv show theme song about tits. |
BlancaXLobo said: @Tohsaka_Rukia talking about Violet Evergarden, i'm glad they didn't flat out made . I know there was that scene at the end of the last episode, but they kept it ambigous enough. Agreed. After I watched VE, I read some spoilers about the major's status and I was glad of the adaptation's result. After Violet reached the climax of her character development in episode 9, I thought it seemed like the finale. Her whole development would have been for naught if she knew that Gilbert was alive all along. There are sequels coming though so who knows what could happen in those. |
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| For all its faults and despite how much derailed the story of the manga, I have to say that I found the execution of the Kuyou arc of Rosario + Vampire better in the anime than in the manga (at least until the climax of the saga). In the first season of the manga, Kuyou was a pretty weak villain, only appeared for one arc, didn't last long and never appeared again until the second season. He basically only served as a way to In the anime, however, The anime turned Kuyou from a plot device to a hateable bastard who always had the situation in check, almost came close to kill the entire main cast, and made them doubt on Tsukune for a while. The anime also reflected better than that arc of the manga his irrational and radical views on humans, as well as how hypocritical and deluded he was at the end. It made me totally hate his guts, unlike in the manga, where I was mostly indifferent towards the character (until the second season, of course, where Ikeda made him even more obnoxious than in the first one). I think it is the only time where I legit thought that the animated adaptation from R+V was better than the manga… Too bad they ruined it at the end by |
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| The third season of Slayers was fully original, and it doesn't lose to the previous one, the character interactions are even better than in the second, the plot arc kept up with the previous themes, and it was just as interesting. And they ended it in a way they can still adapt the remaining novel volumes... though they won't. So it's more like a good addition instead of a good change. A manga alternate version of what could have happened after the second season but before the next novel arc, The Knight of Aqualord is much weaker imo. And the previous seasons did a very good job expanding some novel scenes so it has more detail, also making all the main cast present when in the novels it was often only Lina and Gourry. Sure, they added some more comedy-centered episodes, but no one complains about these.The bad thing is that they removed some of the darker details in the second season, like for example The reason they didn't want to adapt the continuation of the novels may be because it gets a bit darker. X - both TV and movie actually have endings unlike the manga that's on eternal hiatus right in the middle of the final battle. The mangakas said the ending in the manga will be different from both of these so it's easy to deduce the possibilities, but so far the two versions of the endings from the two anime versions are evrything there is. Even if they're not the true ending. Can't say anything about Tokyo ghoul before re-reading because I was following :Re in ongoing and then one week I suddenly had my memory of it clearly wiped out, now I remember only separate scenes from the first series and :Re. |
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| Now, I wouldn't say Cardcaptor Sakura is an unfaithful adaptation, but it definitely does change a lot from the original manga and often feels like a different story to some people. The one thing I do like about the anime is how it expands the amount of cards that Sakura has to collect. The amount of cards in the manga is fine and all, but it was definitely nice to see an expanded list. Some of my favorite Clow Cards are actually exclusive to the anime (e.g. Dream, Time, Create, etc.) |
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| Houseki no Kuni anime adaptation made the unattractive boring gems from the manga into hot anime girls. The story is 99% faithful. |
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| I like how studio's would cut content or fast pacing so that audience can experience could atleast complete adaptation of source material. (Instead of remaining incomplete. (Eg Tokyo ghoul re or certain scientific index season 3) Unless it's some extra filler content at add depth to the source material, I don't want a unfaithful adaptation. I hate true deviation from source material. I feel lucky than studio's won't ask reccomendations from people in mal. Because most of the changes suggested in this discussion where straight out horrible. |
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