Must admit, I'm not all that impressed with Inori Minase's voice, which makes me wonder, do you guys just put seiyu in your favorites just because they are voicing characters you like?
| I am too lazy to read that but my answer is yes |
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| Obviously. I mean, why else do you think? Because they are pretty? If I like them for voicing my favorite characters, that's because they have done a good job. |
Kaiser-chanDec 25, 2018 9:49 PM
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| I think I listed Colleen Clinkenbeard as a fave for this reason, and that's about it for me. |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| If I had any VAs in my favorites it would be the other way round. Their performances played a vital part in why some of my favorite characters are my favorite characters. Steven Blum in Bebop, Katayama in Ping Pong, Sugita as Gintoki, Miyano as Okabe etc... |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| "do you guys just put seiyu in your favorites just because they are voicing characters you like?" Is that a bad thing? The voice acting is a substantial part of said character. |
| Good VAs for fans because fans recognize their talents and fit their roles at the same time makes fans put them as favorites. Definitely that. |
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Psajdak said: I think yes, the characters they played is a big factor on the number of favorites. VA's voice is one of what made the characters. Just to name a view Minase voiced:I mean, can't really remember how she sounded in SOG, but she had more roles in the meantime, and Minase is definitely good actress now, but the very color and uniqueness of her voice... It just doesn't sound so special to me, especially when I see her having more than 8000 favorites. Like when I hear her, it's like I heard any other random young female seiyu. I read about it, that many nowadays popular seiyu really sound similar to each other, which makes me ask, are they so popular, at least on MAL, just cause they got roles of characters many people like, and not solely for their voice acting prowess? -Hestia that became a huge meme when Danmachi aired -Rem that became the reason of world waifu war III -Chino, probably one of the most famous cute girls doing cute things anime character I know that my most fav VA dooesn't line up with my fav characters so my opinion can be wrong, but I think when someone really likes a character, they will like the voice, how they speak, etc, and that will lead to liking the VAs too. |
| Because of their performance of course. I couldn't imagine Gintoki's voice other than Sugita, Sakurai Takahiro's voice acting on Kusuriuri form Mononoke made me like the character more. So, it's the other way around. |
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| "do you guys just put seiyu in your favorites just because they are voicing characters you like?" depend on the seiyu some of them are <3 |
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| It's not wrong to put a va just because you like the characters she voiced. You can even put der fuhrer because maybe you like his political views. SOG was a nice anime |
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| I don't add VAs into favorites much, but in cases that I did, it was only partially for that reason. The only VA that I added is for characters rather than voice is Kugimiya Rie because she voiced many characters that I liked. Though she isn't as unique imo, tsunderes that she voices are a bit more bearable than others. Even if I don't really like the archetype, I have found appreciation for her voice after watching many anime where she voiced characters. For every other VA that I added it was because their voice was, at least partially, what made the character. So those two things are tied together there. I added Kadowaki Mai because she voiced my favorite girl, Illya, but I also like Illya so much because I like her voice, and I think it's pretty unique. I also added Nakata Jouji (Kotomine Kirei, Fate), Wakamoto Norio (Emperor Charles, Code Geass and Oskar von Reuenthal, LoGH) and Genda Tessyo (only minor roles) because their voices are just so epic and manly that I can't but like the characters that they dubbed. I have a thing for those kind of voices I guess. So most of my VAs are on my favorites because I really liked their voice acting rather than because I like the characters that they did, however also only if the two are interconnected. It's rare for voice acting to really impress me. But my favorites certainly did. In general I'm rather conservative with my people picks, so all of them had to really impress me if I decided to add them. |
| Yes I believe so, that's most of the reason why people will add seiyuus into their faves, the majority of seiyuus I have in my favorites are there due to voicing a character I like and giving a performance that made me like that character, and also if they have enough of a unique voice that works with many types of characters is also a factor. But same voice seiyuus like Horie Yui which I love are there due to how iconic their voice is, and every time I hear it I am reminded of all the other pass performances they have done. Also them having a great singing voice is a big factor for me, thus why I love Asami Imai (also since she voiced Chihaya Kisaragi one of my fave characters of all time.) |
Aidoru-OjisanDec 26, 2018 7:29 AM
  Ascended Taste I only came back to this site for the forum sets and to promote my RYM list... Anilist ftw still :dab: |
| I put them in because they did a great job in their voice roles of at least one of my favorite characters. Not all of the characters they voice are close to my favorites. Other than the greatest seiyuu the world has ever known in based Sugita, just going by top 10 favorite characters alone to favorite seiyuus, there is no other match |
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| I am too lazy to read that but my answer is No. I don't even remember my favorite character's seiyuu voice. I remember the character voice but if the seiyuu voicing another character i won't recognize it. So my favorite seiyuu would be the one i know the voice while voicing many characters. |
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| Aren't you the same troll that made an entire thread a few days ago shitting on Rem? And now you've moved on to attacking her Seiyu. God damn don't you have anything better to do with your time? And no, I didn't put Minase Inori on my list just because she voices Rem. She also voices Naruse and does an amazing job singing both their insert songs although I doubt you've heard either one since you claimed not to have seen Re:Zero last time. |
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Psajdak said: vegeta8639 said: I wasn't shitting on Rem, just said I wouldn't like her, there's a difference.Aren't you the same troll that made an entire thread a few days ago shitting on Rem? And now you've moved on to attacking her Seiyu. God damn don't you have anything better to do with your time? And no, I didn't put Minase Inori on my list just because she voices Rem. She also voices Naruse and does an amazing job singing both their insert songs although I doubt you've heard either one since you claimed not to have seen Re:Zero last time. I couldn't care less about her, there are some characters I hate, but Rem isn't one of them, nor is she among those which I like. As for Inori Minase, I don't know where you see anything offensive; she's is good actress, but her voice isn't unique to me, like, when I hear her, that I can always tell who is the voice actor. Dude this is so transparent I don't even see why you're trying to argue at this point. You either hate Rem specifically and made a sock account to shit on her or you just picked the 2nd most popular female character hoping to trigger people. My guess is the former. Try actually adding some anime to your list to make your troll attempt less obvious or better yet post from your real account and then maybe I'll take you seriously. Although I'll grant you that this troll is less obvious to spot if the person viewing hasn't seen your previous thread or doesn't know off hand that Minase Inori is Rem's Seiyu. |
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Psajdak said: vegeta8639 said: I was registered on MAL since the end of 2007, and was mainly always Psajdak; although I did change nickname few times for a short period of time.Dude this is so transparent I don't even see why you're trying to argue at this point. You either hate Rem specifically and made a sock account to shit on her or you just picked the 2nd most popular female character hoping to trigger people. My guess is the former. Try actually adding some anime to your list to make your troll attempt less obvious or better yet post from your real account and then maybe I'll take you seriously. Although I'll grant you that this troll is less obvious to spot if the person viewing hasn't seen your previous thread or doesn't know off hand that Minase Inori is Rem's Seiyu. Needless to say, for years I have used MAL for adding/editing people, and characters on MAL, forum, and of course, for listing anime and manga that I watched. But, over the time, listing became more of a chore to me, like, I just did it for the sake of making my list longer, and there were some other problems... So I asked moderator to completely delete my previous Psajdak account, so I can sort of reboot it, but they told me that due to the number of posts I have, if that was all deleted, entire forum would crush. We agreed that I simply make a new account, and rename the old one, so I could still use nickname Psajdak. Old account: https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kleferi Internet Wayback Machine screenshot from 2016: https://imgur.com/a/fx9Cbuq I don't hate Rem, and I don't care about her; if she's so important to you, you can fap to her, protect her, marry her, whatever you want, just leave me alone. Now, unless you have anything else to say beside picking fights with me, and calling me troll, be so good, and leave. Or if there is really something that you don't like about me, PM mods, instead of posting here. I went through some of the posts on that account and that's definitely you despite how ridiculous your story sounds so I have no choice but to accept it as true or mostly true. I don't know how much that affects my overall assessment of you but I still doubt it's a coincidence that one day you make an obvious troll thread shitting on Rem and then a few days later you make another thread attacking her VA. Very thinly cloaking your insults doesn't mean it's not an attack btw. And thanks for the advice but I'll post wherever the fuck I want as long as I am able and if I see another thread talking trash about Rem, expect that I will show up to make my opinion known. |
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Psajdak said: Not sure what you see so ridiculous in it, but it is how it is. The fact that you consider taking 10 seconds to add an anime to your list a chore when the whole point of MAL is to have a list of anime you've seen and plan to watch. I could understand someone taking that attitude with scoring shows but simply adding them is so quick and useful that I can't think of a legitimate reason not to. Before I found MAL I literally had my shows listed on a notepad because it was necessary in order to remember everything. Psajdak said: you will always be able to twists other people's posts the way you want it Dude look at the title of your thread. Minase Inori is the only Seiyu you named and Rem is the only massively popular character she voices (other than Hestia with 1/10th of Rem's favorites). The implication is very obvious without me having to "twist" anything. You're obviously implying that Minase Inori doesn't deserve to be this popular because she's a mediocre Seiyu so we must be favoriting her just because she voices Rem. And that's simply not true because she has many other great roles. Psajdak said: and there's also fact it was me who added this favorite voice actress of yours on MAL, before you even registered here, or maybe even knew about her, when she still didn't start getting more popular roles. Well good for you. I've added things to the database too and I could easily add her back if she wasn't already on here for some reason. Don't act like you did me some great service so now I should ignore your blatant attacks against my favorite characters/Seiyu. Assuming that's even true since I have no way of verifying it. Psajdak said: it was just me asking you to stop sabotaging my threads, just because you feel urgent to defend your waifu, who, as far as I know, is in love with MC, anyway, not you. Oh sorry, you don't want me to sabotage your threads by revealing to people that you're trolling? Like I said, if I notice a Rem thread I will probably show up so if you want me to stop ruining your troll attempts, maybe pick another topic to troll about. That's such a low tier jab btw. At least say "I love Emilia" or "Who's Rem?" if you want to piss me off. Although I guess if you haven't seen the show you wouldn't know what any of the memes are. Ah well.... |
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| It's rare for me to even notice a particular seyuu tbh. But yeah, I'd say it's the other way around. A lot of times the seyuu is the essential part of why I like that character. A lot of times the VA is 50% of the character, honestly. |
| I'm going to be honest: I put a seiyuu in my favorites if I want to fuck her. |
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| I don't care about voice actors at all but I love the characters voiced by Kamiya Hiroshi sounds like gay-ish but don't know it's because of he's voice or the character itself is great... Saiki, Levi, Yato, Otonashi (Angel Beats!), etc. |
| I'm also not a big fan of Kana Hanazawa, but she's absolute community favorite, even though she doesn't even voice the most popular characters. I'm guessing people like her persona and idolize her, otherwise her popularity is a mystery to me OT: I do tend to favor seiyuu who voice my favorite characters, or rather they're part reason why they're my favorites. |
| Not really, it's when I like their performances.It's true that their performances can help me to like the character they're voicing and liking the character can sometimes help me to like the performance to some degrees, but it's not enough to have them in my favourite. That being said, I think that more than half of the quality of good voice acting is completely lost to someone who doesn't speak the language. As a japanese speaker I can enjoy the performance in a way that would be difficult to enjoy for non japanese speakers. And that may be why many peoples simply like a seiyuu because he/she voiced their favourite characters, or because he/she has a very recognizable voice that they enjoy listening to. |
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Psajdak said: You don't need to concern yourself whether I add anime/manga, or not. When someone has a recently made account with zero anime/manga added to their list and then starts making troll threads, the obvious assumption is that it's a sock account. The reason we're even talking about it now is because you asked what I considered ridiculous regarding your situation. Psajdak said: And another thing you are wrong about, when it comes to Minase, I'm talking only with Saori Kido from Saint Seiya in mind, since her, and that girl from Seikimatsu Occult Gakuin are the only times I heard her. Oh and, Tapris from Gabriel DropOut, I noticed she had role in it too, although I don't remember her voice. See this is why I find it hard to accept that you're not trolling. You made an entire thread to trash talk a Seiyu based on 3 of her minor roles. Clearly nobody's adding her to their favorites based off some minor character she voiced 8 years ago. If you actually want to know which roles we like her for, click on a character she voices and if that character has less than 10 favorites, assume that's not one of them. If you want to know the main reasons I like her, search "Minase Inori Wishing" on YouTube then click on the first Lyric AMV. After that go watch the Kokoro ga Sakebitagatterunda movie or just search for "Watashi no Koe" on YouTube. Of course I like her other roles too but those are the main ones based on which I initially added her. Still I can't get over the fact that you'd make attacking her the main topic of your thread without listening to a SINGLE one of her popular roles. Just how does somebody think like this? Psajdak said: Also, don't know anything about any Emilia, and what's that Who's Rem supposed to mean? - both of us know that at the very least I know who is she, who voices her, and what she looks like. I specifically said that you wouldn't know the memes so why are you surprised that you don't know the memes? Emilia is the main bitch from Re:Zero that cucks Rem and ruins the show. That's why Rem fans are especially defensive and easy to trigger, myself included of course. Psajdak said: And as for low punches, it was just observation, I don't understand all that waifu thing, since she is in love MC, or am I wrong; I'm not sure I get how someone can be your wife, if your two aren't even married. You've been in the anime community for 11 years yet you need me to explain to you what a Waifu is? Well I personally don't use the word very much but for me it just means my favorite female anime character. My point was that not many anime fans would actually get triggered that a character they like is in love with the protagonist because we self insert into them anyway. That is why most harem protagonists are so bland and generic, to make self insertion as easy as possible. Basically it's such a low tier insult that a normie or 4th grade bully would think of. Might as well make fun of me for being in love with a fictional character on an anime forum because that's sure to hurt my feelings. Psajdak said: so can you just stop talking to me? Not as long as you keep giving me things to respond to and I am physically capable of responding. |
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| I put people who are cute as my favorites. |
| Don't have VAs on my favorites list. If I would put them it won't be because they coincidentally voiced my favourite character, but because they're a big part of what made the character itself. Speaking as someone who's watched anime with a lot of dialogue but without voice acting, it's quite easy to forget how much voice acting does. A lot of characters would feel empty without them. |
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| I dont have a seiyuu on my favorites but my favorite seiyuu are Mamoru Miyano and Tomokazu Sugita. Whenever they both have the role of the main protagonist, they always end up making it more memorable and likable. |
Psajdak said: vegeta8639 said: I will answer only to this, and that will be it...See this is why I find it hard to accept that you're not trolling. You made an entire thread to trash talk a Seiyu based on 3 of her minor roles. Clearly nobody's adding her to their favorites based off some minor character she voiced 8 years ago. While I can't remember how two other roles sounded, Saori Kido from Saint Seiya is not a role someone would consider minor; it is character that existed since 80s, and is one most famous female characters in anime history. Plus, it airs at the moment, so I can very well hear Minase voice in various situations, and to me, I'm sorry, but she doesn't sound so special. lol so now you're saying that you made this entire thread to attack a Seiyu based on ONE role. And it looks like she's voicing this girl (who has 82 favorites btw) only in this newest installation which currently has 3 episodes out. I haven't even seen the show to see how much involvement she has but I have no problem calling the role minor based on the fact that there's 6 main characters in that show and the girl she's voicing doesn't seem to be too popular in the first place (most of the favorites are from old fans anyway). Lastly even if her performance in that show is absolute shit (which it might be for all I know), you're still judging her without listening to any of her best roles. That is fucking ridiculous. It might be excusable if you were saying it in passing but her name is in the fucking title of your thread. HOW do you not see a problem with this??? It's like going on a tennis forum to make a thread about Nadal being a shitty tennis player based on one set of one match you saw where he played badly and then asking whether people like him because of his hair. Christ. Watch some more anime and don't make threads hating on characters/people you know NOTHING about. Now I'm done with you. |
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| Oooh, finally I got it. So this topic it's not about how much seiyu's acting is part of the character but about OP's dislike of certain roles played by Inori Minase? OK maybe her voice is not that unique/distinguishable but her performances are. I like what she did with Ami from Lupin III: Part 5, Nagisa from Jitsu wa Watashi wa (and I don't like this anime), Chidori from Nobunaga no Shinobi and Great Mazinger from Robot Girls Z. But Chito from Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryokou and Mari from Sora yori mo Tooi Basho are especially nice examples of her acting abilities. She is a pretty good seiyu. Maybe not one of my most favorite but a solid actress. |
| People have their own preference, include people who placed Inori Minase in their favorite. I recognize Inori when she play Mari from Sora Yori and then i follow her role this year like Tada Yui from Tada-Kun, Shoko Makinohara from Bunny Girl Senpai etc. She didn't have wide range of voice but for me she can play the role that fit her voice and do it well. Also the fact that she won 10th Seiyuu Awards on 2015 for Best Lead Actress. Its not just fans but also the industry recognize her skill. I made her one of my favorite female seiyuu because her voice alongside Kana Hanazawa and Sora Amamiya. None of my favorite character was voiced by them. |
gadboyzDec 28, 2018 11:01 AM
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| the one seiyu in my favourites is there because i was utterly blown away by how he showed bakugo’s pain so perfectly in his voice. i get why people might like a seiyu just for voicing a favourite character, but tbh that’s not my thing. |
AnimeFreak-San said: is this a male gender issure...human issue...mental illness perhaps? |
| So you are asking us: ''Why do you rate voice actors by their work?'' Is there anything to rate other than, them playing characters we liked? From the start, a voice actor makes 50% of the whole character because the voice is very important. I love Jibril from No Game No Life, and Kurumi from Date a Live, and I assure you that their voices played a huge role in that. Pointless discussion. |
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Psajdak said: Basically, Saori Kido is female character on level of Bulma from Dragon Ball, Lum from Urusei Yatsura, Lynn Minmay from Macross, etc... It's simply huge to get to voice such character. Saori is currently one of main characters of Saint Seiya: Saintia Sho, and having heard her how she sound, all I said that her voice doesn't sound as unique as of Saori's previous voice actresses; I mean, her acting itself is decent, and she sounds natural, it's just that the very color of her voice sound very average, so similar to many other female seiyu. And you know well that this depends not only from the seiyou but from the writers and mainly from what the director wants to do with the character. Maybe he wants her to sound somehow subdued? Often people have problems accustoming when major seiyous change. Like almost everybody booed Rikiya Koyama when he replaced Akira Kamiya as Kogorou Mouri or Miyuki Sawashiro when she replaced Eiko Masuyama as Fujiko Mine...but they were the perfect choices despite sounding differently and now they define those characters. Psajdak said: You have Heiji Hattori, for instance, in your favorites; take his seiyu Ryo Horikawa... When Heiji talks, you can always recognize Vegeta, or Reinhard, or Shun Andromeda. Nope. Never heard Vegeta's voice. I watched DB and part of DBZ with german dub on RTL2. Never watched Saint Seiya except one episode of Omega. Reinhard sounds very differently from Hattory to me because the last speaks in kansai dialect and also Ryo Horikawa has wide range. They are very different charters to begin with. On the other hand Kazuya Nakai always sounds like Zorro (well as Hijikata to me). Yes there are recognizable and not so voices but I can like both. Psajdak said: I'm not saying anything bad about Minase, on contrary, I wish her all the best, but for someone with so much favorites, I kind of expected her to sound much more recognizable. So your point is that she is a bit overrated but this is the same thing as MAL's top anime - there are bad titles and some definitely deserving praise but obviously not deserving to be that high (like FMA:B, Gintama ect). Telling people to give more balanced scores wouldn't change a thing. |
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