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Aug 9, 2018 12:51 AM

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Well I still see old chickens here so I don't see any reason for MAL to ban anyone that easily. No shitposting would probably be boring for me. I only read first page so yeah welcome back MAL lol.
Aug 9, 2018 4:17 AM
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We could use a dark theme. It would help with my shitty fucking eye floaters.
Aug 9, 2018 4:49 AM
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MAL will always be relevant due to its large user base
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https://www.similarweb.com/website/myanimelist.net?competitors=anilist.co

In case anyone was still clinging to the fantasy that MAL was going to be usurped.
Aug 9, 2018 5:06 AM

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When MAL was down, I tried using Anilist and it wasn't for me. So I kept on looking for more alternatives that will suit me, but I found nothing. I waited for MAL to come back.



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Aug 9, 2018 8:49 AM

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I don't think it's a matter of "that site is prettier and has more shit so I'll hop on there huhu".
MAL is easier to navigate, has more information, has a much more dedicated userbase and doesn't base its existence on unnecessary features like...well, dark themes and whatnot.

I imagine the kind of people that will be transferring are the ones that don't use forums, clubs, profiles, comments, etc. but the kind that just uses lists and occasionally complains about how a show has a "too low" or "too high" user score compared to their opinions and then are disappointed when everyone tells them how stupid their complaints are.
So I'd guess that we won't be losing much, at least community-wise.

MAL has a legacy and is the most popular list site for a reason.
Aug 9, 2018 8:50 AM

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MAL started losing relevance after they were gone for more than 5 days.
Aug 9, 2018 8:51 AM

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not to me. I don't even know those other sites. Not really interested.
I probably regret this post by now.
Aug 9, 2018 9:03 AM

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Other sites such as: AnimePlanet or Kitsu, what I delved into during MALs problems, I kept thinking "Ah wish it had this feature (like MAL)" once MAL clubs are back up, most who moved will move back to their abusive ex.
Aug 9, 2018 9:07 AM

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When people ask to see your "list" they always mean link them your MAL. MAL isn't going anywhere it's basically part of otaku culture now. Also I use Anilinkz too but it's literally nothing compared to MAL.
Aug 9, 2018 11:21 AM

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I don't think so. Website relevance is chiefly determined by its usage, and MAL is already well-established with a very large userbase. The fact is, whenever you run a search on any anime name, the first link to show up, besides perhaps Wikipedia, is MAL. Monopolies of the kind MAL enjoys are seldom broken, occasioned only by public scandals, bankruptcies, or other equally grave misfortunes. For examples, even though there are countless chans now, 4chan will always be regarded as the top dog (at least to the general public), despite many newer ones offering better features/communities.
As for the userbase, note that people in general are resistant to leaving websites like MAL which contain their own content (forum postings, anime/manga listings) and "moving on". Part of it has to do with the sheer pain of re-entering your entire list, and another to do with people associating their forum postings to their past in an endearing way. This is especially applicable to long time users who've got really long watched/read lists or had significant forum activity.
Of course, it's possible that a large number of users migrated during the down time, but now that most of the site's functionality is back up, I would expect a fair share to succumb to the attraction of returning to and resuming operations in a familiar environment. It is often the scene entrant or the uncommon online nomad that leaves so casually.
Contrary to popular belief, legacies are hard to break; I don't see MAL losing relevance as one of the big players in the near future.
Aug 9, 2018 11:24 AM

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nah

okay I just wanted to end on that but I forgot about the word limit. Shit.
Aug 9, 2018 1:40 PM

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Arkab said:
Don't think so. The only advantages of a site like anilist were the public feed and custom lists (possibility of more favorites without having to pay anything I don't think was really an advantage....I don't think users feel showing more favorites is something truly relevant). In everything else MAL still wins by a landslide.


What is that ''everything else'' though?
A much more outdated design, no multiple rating systems, the interface as a whole is wonkier and in order for you to get notifications you have to refresh the page. It's live on AniList.

Plus, AniList database mods are actually really active and you can contact them via Discord too, not just rely on the terrible submission system here that takes EONS for mods to even respond. (MAL database staff WILL ignore you on their discord, they desperately want this terrible system on the site to be used).
I just had a few submissions addressed this week... when did I submit those?
Sometime from early to mid 2017.
AniList staff responded instantly when I requested additions/changes to the database.

(In all fairness though, it's not the submission system's fault, database mods just simply aren't that active here, despite the site being MAINLY a database, literally a fraction of the total user base uses forums but they'd prefer to spend more time thinking up forum games instead of bettering their database).
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Aug 9, 2018 2:20 PM

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Anilist's forums are almost totally incomprehensible, and the rest of the site is just as irritating to wade through. I kept seeing people over there praising the layout, and all the while I wondered if we were even seeing the same website, because surely nobody could actually praise what I was looking at. @_@

About the only thing it does better is let you use half-points when rating, because sometimes a show is better than the other shows rated X but not as good as the ones rated Y.

As for other sites, Anime-Planet is where I started out (well, where I was most active until this past year, anyway), and it's alright. It has an easy-to-use layout and everything makes sense, but I like MAL better because I like the number ratings better than the stars, even though it's the same 10-point scale. Also, AP doesn't have a News forum, which is weird.
Aug 9, 2018 5:21 PM

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All the sites have their positives and negatives. MAL to me isn't the best overall in any single category (for things I care about), whether it be layout, overall database, forums, staff etc. However, I would say if you were to score each one of these categories for all the tracking sites, MAL would have the highest average.

It may not lead the pack in any given area, but it competes across the board where as the other sites I have seen have at least one area where they trail far behind.
Aug 9, 2018 5:37 PM

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If MAL cant develop their UI/UX, i think its yes. (i mean the original one, not the additional theme)

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I still like using MAL because I think it has the best database for anime and manga. Being able to see related anime and manga for series is super helpful. Anilist does that also, but it's not as complete.
Aug 9, 2018 11:11 PM

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I am among the many MAL refugees that ran off to AniList as a result of the site's extensive (and somewhat continued) downtime over the summer months, and I can confidently say that whenever MAL is fully restored, it will very easily regain (if lost) and maintain its spot as the most popular community site of its kind in the West.

I believe the whole meme that "[m]any users permanently migrated to other sites too after the apocalypse here" is severely exaggerated. It would be very surprising if most of the "whelp I'm done with MAL for good, hello AniList my new home!!11!" users don't come running back over the next couple months. While AniList is a nice site that has much to offer (seriously, the 25 favorites is really nice), it is not without its cons, such as an extremely inferior catalog (when compared to MAL) and an absolutely unacceptable notification system.

Without a doubt, MAL's public image and the general trust placed in the developers by the community has been tarnished severely, but that's nowhere near enough to bring it down to the level of its competitors. The most pressing concern at the moment would be how MAL plans to address the current absence of a third-party API, as I genuinely do believe that a continued negligence in this regard could create permanent damage to membership.
Aug 9, 2018 11:20 PM

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I went over to Anilist in the first couple weeks of issues with MAL but now with the forums back up here that was the only one thing keeping me on Anilist

Anilist is a great looking site but the title here should be "Will Anilist loose it's relevance now that MAL has the forums back up?" xD
Aug 10, 2018 12:57 AM

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The public feed is the reason why I prefer MAL
Aug 10, 2018 1:59 AM

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Every other site is shit for utility. I just want to have a simplistic site where I can get to almost everywhere in 2-3 clicks.

I wouldn't worry about Anilist, MAL practically died for almost 3 months and it barely rose. Sure MAL fell a few places on Google Search, but I've never once got a search result for Anilist.
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Even with this recent debacle I still have more faith in MAL than any of its contemporaries.
Aug 10, 2018 5:02 AM

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No I don't think so. There is no real competitor to mal. Ofc a lot of people ran over to AniList while MAL was down but most of them still prefer mal from what I heard and the number of people who permanently migrated to other anime tracking sites should be very low. I myself and some of my friends tried out AniList but we gave up on it after a few days cause we didn't like the layout...


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Aug 10, 2018 5:09 AM
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Dunno but i prefer MAL cos it uses less data than other sites.Tried AniList but so slow and sometimes stuck on loading screen..
Aug 10, 2018 7:10 AM
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Now that you've mentioned dark theme... yeah, why isn't there one? Also if mal would finally decide to add manhwas and manhuas that would be great. I need to update them all in my profile notes.
Aug 10, 2018 10:33 AM
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The only reason I use AniList is because Tachiyomi can auto-update my manga list. As soon as MAL's API is back again, I'll never use AniList again.

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Nah. During the time MAL was blacked out, I remember I tried looking up a character on Anilist who wasn't even that obscure, and yet they didn't have the character in their database. MAL is still the most complete and best place to go for anime-related things IMO.

MAL's anime list wasn't down for that long, so I felt no need to move to a different site. The forum was down for a while, but I don't really care about that as much.


What's the difference?
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I took the opportunity to explore more sites, but it's still MAL for me. others are simply extensions.
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I can't leave MAL, it's like a hangnail that won't go away. And the simple layout is pleasing to the eye.
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Anilist forums are dead, only a few people post comments.
Aug 10, 2018 9:17 PM

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this site is more active than anilist right now, which barely has activity like every 2 days
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I was on Kitsu and not Anilist most of the time I was gone. And Kitsu still has a lot of posting, least to me. Kitsu isn't dead like, at all. Very lively community there.

And manga isn't completely dead unlike here....

And gonna mention, Kitsu, despite not having character pages and a lot of other missing features, it does have the official largest character database. They are VERY prompt in everything I submit, adding tags to manga. All that. They have a system where I can SEE the changes. And it is nice. And Kitsu does have those Manwas and such. Manga events.

I donno, I feel like as a manga reader, it is hard to feel happy here on My ANIME list or anilist.... too much anime focus.
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SigmaticDoc said:
Arkab said:
Don't think so. The only advantages of a site like anilist were the public feed and custom lists (possibility of more favorites without having to pay anything I don't think was really an advantage....I don't think users feel showing more favorites is something truly relevant). In everything else MAL still wins by a landslide.


What is that ''everything else'' though?
A much more outdated design, no multiple rating systems, the interface as a whole is wonkier and in order for you to get notifications you have to refresh the page. It's live on AniList.

Plus, AniList database mods are actually really active and you can contact them via Discord too, not just rely on the terrible submission system here that takes EONS for mods to even respond. (MAL database staff WILL ignore you on their discord, they desperately want this terrible system on the site to be used).
I just had a few submissions addressed this week... when did I submit those?
Sometime from early to mid 2017.
AniList staff responded instantly when I requested additions/changes to the database.

(In all fairness though, it's not the submission system's fault, database mods just simply aren't that active here, despite the site being MAINLY a database, literally a fraction of the total user base uses forums but they'd prefer to spend more time thinking up forum games instead of bettering their database).


Similar story with Kitsu. the devs are very open and active. And you actually get to see the progress and your contributions get done. And there isn't this pessimism about adding genres like there is here. Or adding needed/wanted features..... It isn't like "lol that would take so much work" instead it is like "yeah why don't we have that karl?" kek. So the dev team is always working it feels like... and I never feel like Kitsu is stagnant.

Oh and people actually agreeing for more fetish tag support... like wut. So nice.
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MAL never lost it's relevance. I'm in few anime circles and every one of them were making a big deal about how the fourms finally came back to MAL. I don't think the loss of users took as big of a hit as people are saying it did. I only made a anilist account because I'm so used to using taiga to update everything and even then, using the official MAL app on my phone to keep things updated isn't that bad.
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AniList's character database is pretty empty, I'll stick with MAL
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Nah no,
Unless that place offer better quality.

Its like oh no Bethesda/Microsoft/EA now will start selling games on their own platform, do you think Steam has finally started losing its relevance?
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SigmaticDoc said:
Arkab said:
Don't think so. The only advantages of a site like anilist were the public feed and custom lists (possibility of more favorites without having to pay anything I don't think was really an advantage....I don't think users feel showing more favorites is something truly relevant). In everything else MAL still wins by a landslide.


What is that ''everything else'' though?
A much more outdated design, no multiple rating systems, the interface as a whole is wonkier and in order for you to get notifications you have to refresh the page. It's live on AniList.

Plus, AniList database mods are actually really active and you can contact them via Discord too, not just rely on the terrible submission system here that takes EONS for mods to even respond. (MAL database staff WILL ignore you on their discord, they desperately want this terrible system on the site to be used).
I just had a few submissions addressed this week... when did I submit those?
Sometime from early to mid 2017.
AniList staff responded instantly when I requested additions/changes to the database.

(In all fairness though, it's not the submission system's fault, database mods just simply aren't that active here, despite the site being MAINLY a database, literally a fraction of the total user base uses forums but they'd prefer to spend more time thinking up forum games instead of bettering their database).
Wrong, anilist mods are assholes and got mad at me for sharing an opinion. atleast mal mods are somewhat good. Outdated designs? Pls anilists are also outdated and wonkier. All of what u r adressing can be applied to shitlist. (mods arent flooded with work surprise surprise thats why they can add faster than mal mod. if they had the same community as mal they would be flooded with memes and false data)
Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists.
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Botan-Chan45 said:
SigmaticDoc said:


What is that ''everything else'' though?
A much more outdated design, no multiple rating systems, the interface as a whole is wonkier and in order for you to get notifications you have to refresh the page. It's live on AniList.

Plus, AniList database mods are actually really active and you can contact them via Discord too, not just rely on the terrible submission system here that takes EONS for mods to even respond. (MAL database staff WILL ignore you on their discord, they desperately want this terrible system on the site to be used).
I just had a few submissions addressed this week... when did I submit those?
Sometime from early to mid 2017.
AniList staff responded instantly when I requested additions/changes to the database.

(In all fairness though, it's not the submission system's fault, database mods just simply aren't that active here, despite the site being MAINLY a database, literally a fraction of the total user base uses forums but they'd prefer to spend more time thinking up forum games instead of bettering their database).
Wrong, anilist mods are assholes and got mad at me for sharing an opinion. atleast mal mods are somewhat good. Outdated designs? Pls anilists are also outdated and wonkier. All of what u r adressing can be applied to shitlist. (mods arent flooded with work surprise surprise thats why they can add faster than mal mod. if they had the same community as mal they would be flooded with memes and false data)
Botan-Chan45 said:
SigmaticDoc said:


What is that ''everything else'' though?
A much more outdated design, no multiple rating systems, the interface as a whole is wonkier and in order for you to get notifications you have to refresh the page. It's live on AniList.

Plus, AniList database mods are actually really active and you can contact them via Discord too, not just rely on the terrible submission system here that takes EONS for mods to even respond. (MAL database staff WILL ignore you on their discord, they desperately want this terrible system on the site to be used).
I just had a few submissions addressed this week... when did I submit those?
Sometime from early to mid 2017.
AniList staff responded instantly when I requested additions/changes to the database.

(In all fairness though, it's not the submission system's fault, database mods just simply aren't that active here, despite the site being MAINLY a database, literally a fraction of the total user base uses forums but they'd prefer to spend more time thinking up forum games instead of bettering their database).
Wrong, anilist mods are assholes and got mad at me for sharing an opinion. atleast mal mods are somewhat good. Outdated designs? Pls anilists are also outdated and wonkier. All of what u r adressing can be applied to shitlist. (mods arent flooded with work surprise surprise thats why they can add faster than mal mod. if they had the same community as mal they would be flooded with memes and false data)



MAL is wooden as shit though, how is AniList's interface outdated? It's smooth and actually dynamic with proper fade in and outs of drop down menus etc.
On MAL everything just sorta pops up.

You're not on AniList's discord so I can't tell if that happened on their discord or their forums.
If it was their forums feel free to send the thread in which it happened, so we know it's true.
But anyway, the thing about AniList staff is, they participate alongside the community, they also have opinions, they're not robots like MAL's staff. Afraid to voice as single opinion so they don't offend anyone from their community. I find that a lot more respectable.
I've had proper debates with AniList staff.

Plus, I don't know if you're referring to their database mods, forum mods or their discord mods.

Their discord mods are saints compared to MAL's discord mods.
For example, MAL's discord mod - Kagami.

He's infamous in the MAL discord community for being full of prejudice, irrational behavior and biased moderating.
Often punishes people based on his emotions instead of the rules.

Bans from him in that nature include -
Banning someone for a joke. No, it wasn't an offensive joke, it just contained 1 foreign word... even though the entirety of the sentence was in English besides that 1 word.
Banning someone who said ''Blazblue is bad''... Kagami likes BlazBlue so he just banned that user under the pretense that ''It was clearly a bait'' when everyone that knew that user know that he doesn't like BlazBlue.
Banning people that go off-topic for a bit, even though he goes off-topic almost non-stop.
Banning people for mentioning words like ''rape'' even though he's stated that ''he likes to watch hentai that's rape until mind break''.

or let's take another one of their Discord mods in perspective, except he's a mod on the forums too - Brandon.
Muting people for ''excessive spam of images''.
What's excessive you ask? 3 images in the span of 9 minutes.

And it's problematic when the head of their Discord - Heddie, pretends to listen to people's complaints. A lot of people weren't fans of Kagami but he's buddies with him so all criticism of him falls on deaf ears.
Hell, when I submitted a suggestion in the suggestion channel that said ''forbid Kagami from moderating'' it was received extremely positively with the Thumbs Up doubling the amount of the Thumbs Down.
But that wasn't taken into account, everything continued like before.

Lemme clarify now, that's not a problem on AniList's discord.
Hell, they talked about MAL in a really good light when I spoke to them and were extremely disappointed when I mentioned that one of the MAL site staff - sarroush. Went full petty mode and kept telling me how ''AniList stole MAL's database'' because I mentioned that AniList is gaining traffic quickly.
(Nevermind the fact that MAL stole their database from AniDB and pitched info from ANN for the longest time).


Meanwhile, on a totally unrelated note.
Kudos to the MAL discord mods who were actually good and understanding.
Watching4Plot
Entropyciline
Castawayz (sadly left the server)

Also, about your ''mods aren't filled with work'' argument.
If they addressed Discord users' database requests (as long as they're structured properly, including a picture of the anime/manga they're requesting, it's name and other details) instead of scrolling through the endless submissions on the site, it would happen a lot faster.

They'd get troll requests regardless of the platform, but the difference is, on Discord they can block the users with the troll requests so they don't have to experience that from the same person again (as those trolls tend to do that stuff repeatedly) and keep it to genuine ones.
They can never block a user from submitting entries on the site.

If any mod is reading this, it's a nice suggestion if I were to say so myself. Consider it.
Also, I'm not sorry for pointing fingers at your fellow staff members. People need to be aware of their behavior. Sorrymasen.

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SigmaticDoc said:
SigmaticDoc said:


What is that ''everything else'' though?
A much more outdated design, no multiple rating systems, the interface as a whole is wonkier and in order for you to get notifications you have to refresh the page. It's live on AniList.

Plus, AniList database mods are actually really active and you can contact them via Discord too, not just rely on the terrible submission system here that takes EONS for mods to even respond. (MAL database staff WILL ignore you on their discord, they desperately want this terrible system on the site to be used).
I just had a few submissions addressed this week... when did I submit those?
Sometime from early to mid 2017.
AniList staff responded instantly when I requested additions/changes to the database.

(In all fairness though, it's not the submission system's fault, database mods just simply aren't that active here, despite the site being MAINLY a database, literally a fraction of the total user base uses forums but they'd prefer to spend more time thinking up forum games instead of bettering their database).
Wrong, anilist mods are assholes and got mad at me for sharing an opinion. atleast mal mods are somewhat good. Outdated designs? Pls anilists are also outdated and wonkier. All of what u r adressing can be applied to shitlist. (mods arent flooded with work surprise surprise thats why they can add faster than mal mod. if they had the same community as mal they would be flooded with memes and false data)



MAL is wooden as shit though, how is AniList's interface outdated? It's smooth and actually dynamic with proper fade in and outs of drop down menus etc.
On MAL everything just sorta pops up.

You're not on AniList's discord so I can't tell if that happened on their discord or their forums.
If it was their forums feel free to send the thread in which it happened, so we know it's true.
But anyway, the thing about AniList staff is, they participate alongside the community, they also have opinions, they're not robots like MAL's staff. Afraid to voice as single opinion so they don't offend anyone from their community. I find that a lot more respectable.
I've had proper debates with AniList staff.

Plus, I don't know if you're referring to their database mods, forum mods or their discord mods.

Their discord mods are saints compared to MAL's discord mods.
For example, MAL's discord mod - Kagami.

He's infamous in the MAL discord community for being full of prejudice, irrational behavior and biased moderating.
Often punishes people based on his emotions instead of the rules.

Bans from him in that nature include -
Banning someone for a joke. No, it wasn't an offensive joke, it just contained 1 foreign word... even though the entirety of the sentence was in English besides that 1 word.
Banning someone who said ''Blazblue is bad''... Kagami likes BlazBlue so he just banned that user under the pretense that ''It was clearly a bait'' when everyone that knew that user know that he doesn't like BlazBlue.
Banning people that go off-topic for a bit, even though he goes off-topic almost non-stop.
Banning people for mentioning words like ''rape'' even though he's stated that ''he likes to watch hentai that's rape until mind break''.

or let's take another one of their Discord mods in perspective, except he's a mod on the forums too - Brandon.
Muting people for ''excessive spam of images''.
What's excessive you ask? 3 images in the span of 9 minutes.

And it's problematic when the head of their Discord - Heddie, pretends to listen to people's complaints. A lot of people weren't fans of Kagami but he's buddies with him so all criticism of him falls on deaf ears.
Hell, when I submitted a suggestion in the suggestion channel that said ''forbid Kagami from moderating'' it was received extremely positively with the Thumbs Up doubling the amount of the Thumbs Down.
But that wasn't taken into account, everything continued like before.

Lemme clarify now, that's not a problem on AniList's discord.
Hell, they talked about MAL in a really good light when I spoke to them and were extremely disappointed when I mentioned that one of the MAL site staff - sarroush. Went full petty mode and kept telling me how ''AniList stole MAL's database'' because I mentioned that AniList is gaining traffic quickly.
(Nevermind the fact that MAL stole their database from AniDB and pitched info from ANN for the longest time).


Meanwhile, on a totally unrelated note.
Kudos to the MAL discord mods who were actually good and understanding.
Watching4Plot
Entropyciline
Castawayz (sadly left the server)

Also, about your ''mods aren't filled with work'' argument.
If they addressed Discord users' database requests (as long as they're structured properly, including a picture of the anime/manga they're requesting, it's name and other details) instead of scrolling through the endless submissions on the site, it would happen a lot faster.

They'd get troll requests regardless of the platform, but the difference is, on Discord they can block the users with the troll requests so they don't have to experience that from the same person again (as those trolls tend to do that stuff repeatedly) and keep it to genuine ones.
They can never block a user from submitting entries on the site.

If any mod is reading this, it's a nice suggestion if I were to say so myself. Consider it.
Also, I'm not sorry for pointing fingers at your fellow staff members. People need to be aware of their behavior. Sorrymasen.
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talking about mal and anilist website but their discords are probably trash.(discord if full of drama) layout on anilist is outdated and only resembles that of twitter so amazing since you claim mal stole from them. brandon the cunt is retarded since i was just stating an opinion and already warned me for an opinion.(wow) ((also one mod = whole server is trash?, not gonna contact the admin at all on how he does unreasonable bans? And when i mean contact, i mean actually having the balls to dm him and not pussyfoot around it)) also why the double quote r u big gay?
Botan-Chan45Aug 11, 2018 11:59 AM
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...Umm...what the hell is Anilist?

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I am the Arbiter of Absolute Truth, and here is my wisdom:

"Anime was always influenced by the West. This is not news.
Shoujo is the superior genre primarily aimed at young people.
Harem/isekai are lazy genres that refuse any meaningful innovation.
There is no 'Golden Age.' There will always be top-shelf anime.
You should be watching Carole & Tuesday."
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...Umm...what the hell is Anilist?
listing website that literally stole twitters layout
Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists.
Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance
Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo
Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud
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Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime.
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Botan-Chan45 said:
Zelkiiro said:
...Umm...what the hell is Anilist?
listing website that literally stole twitters layout

Welp, if it's as obtuse and reliant on knowing people to get any exposure as Twitter is, then it probably sucks the shit ring out of my toilet.

This glorious signature image was created by @Mayumi!

I am the Arbiter of Absolute Truth, and here is my wisdom:

"Anime was always influenced by the West. This is not news.
Shoujo is the superior genre primarily aimed at young people.
Harem/isekai are lazy genres that refuse any meaningful innovation.
There is no 'Golden Age.' There will always be top-shelf anime.
You should be watching Carole & Tuesday."
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SigmaticDoc said:
Wrong, anilist mods are assholes and got mad at me for sharing an opinion. atleast mal mods are somewhat good. Outdated designs? Pls anilists are also outdated and wonkier. All of what u r adressing can be applied to shitlist. (mods arent flooded with work surprise surprise thats why they can add faster than mal mod. if they had the same community as mal they would be flooded with memes and false data)



MAL is wooden as shit though, how is AniList's interface outdated? It's smooth and actually dynamic with proper fade in and outs of drop down menus etc.
On MAL everything just sorta pops up.

You're not on AniList's discord so I can't tell if that happened on their discord or their forums.
If it was their forums feel free to send the thread in which it happened, so we know it's true.
But anyway, the thing about AniList staff is, they participate alongside the community, they also have opinions, they're not robots like MAL's staff. Afraid to voice as single opinion so they don't offend anyone from their community. I find that a lot more respectable.
I've had proper debates with AniList staff.

Plus, I don't know if you're referring to their database mods, forum mods or their discord mods.

Their discord mods are saints compared to MAL's discord mods.
For example, MAL's discord mod - Kagami.

He's infamous in the MAL discord community for being full of prejudice, irrational behavior and biased moderating.
Often punishes people based on his emotions instead of the rules.

Bans from him in that nature include -
Banning someone for a joke. No, it wasn't an offensive joke, it just contained 1 foreign word... even though the entirety of the sentence was in English besides that 1 word.
Banning someone who said ''Blazblue is bad''... Kagami likes BlazBlue so he just banned that user under the pretense that ''It was clearly a bait'' when everyone that knew that user know that he doesn't like BlazBlue.
Banning people that go off-topic for a bit, even though he goes off-topic almost non-stop.
Banning people for mentioning words like ''rape'' even though he's stated that ''he likes to watch hentai that's rape until mind break''.

or let's take another one of their Discord mods in perspective, except he's a mod on the forums too - Brandon.
Muting people for ''excessive spam of images''.
What's excessive you ask? 3 images in the span of 9 minutes.

And it's problematic when the head of their Discord - Heddie, pretends to listen to people's complaints. A lot of people weren't fans of Kagami but he's buddies with him so all criticism of him falls on deaf ears.
Hell, when I submitted a suggestion in the suggestion channel that said ''forbid Kagami from moderating'' it was received extremely positively with the Thumbs Up doubling the amount of the Thumbs Down.
But that wasn't taken into account, everything continued like before.

Lemme clarify now, that's not a problem on AniList's discord.
Hell, they talked about MAL in a really good light when I spoke to them and were extremely disappointed when I mentioned that one of the MAL site staff - sarroush. Went full petty mode and kept telling me how ''AniList stole MAL's database'' because I mentioned that AniList is gaining traffic quickly.
(Nevermind the fact that MAL stole their database from AniDB and pitched info from ANN for the longest time).


Meanwhile, on a totally unrelated note.
Kudos to the MAL discord mods who were actually good and understanding.
Watching4Plot
Entropyciline
Castawayz (sadly left the server)

Also, about your ''mods aren't filled with work'' argument.
If they addressed Discord users' database requests (as long as they're structured properly, including a picture of the anime/manga they're requesting, it's name and other details) instead of scrolling through the endless submissions on the site, it would happen a lot faster.

They'd get troll requests regardless of the platform, but the difference is, on Discord they can block the users with the troll requests so they don't have to experience that from the same person again (as those trolls tend to do that stuff repeatedly) and keep it to genuine ones.
They can never block a user from submitting entries on the site.

If any mod is reading this, it's a nice suggestion if I were to say so myself. Consider it.
Also, I'm not sorry for pointing fingers at your fellow staff members. People need to be aware of their behavior. Sorrymasen.
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talking about mal and anilist website but their discords are probably trash.(discord if full of drama) layout on anilist is outdated and only resembles that of twitter so amazing since you claim mal stole from them. brandon the cunt is retarded since i was just stating an opinion and already warned me for an opinion.(wow) ((also one mod = whole server is trash?, not gonna contact the admin at all on how he does unreasonable bans? And when i mean contact, i mean actually having the balls to dm him and not pussyfoot around it)) also why the double quote r u big gay?


First, it's not just 1 mod, it was a few mods that were pretty much insufferable
Second AniList's layout is nothing like Twitter, that's just a feed.
I never claimed MAL stole from AniList, they stole from AniDB and AnimeNewsNetwork (their layout especially resembles ANN a lot) now I'm getting the impression your English is not very good so make sure to read through everything I say very carefully, multiple times if you have to. I don't want people to have wrong interpretations of what I say.

And did you even read what I said? I contacted Heddie several times about mods (Specifically that one). I was blatant as hell, I didn't sugarcoat anything.
They're just buddies that's all. All you'll ever get from contacting the head of their Discord is ''I'll see what's up'' or ''I'll talk with him'' but nothing ever changes.
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Zelkiiro said:
Botan-Chan45 said:
listing website that literally stole twitters layout

Welp, if it's as obtuse and reliant on knowing people to get any exposure as Twitter is, then it probably sucks the shit ring out of my toilet.


AniList is an anime/manga database website just like MAL but with personal and global feeds for easier, more organic communication between users and 5 different rating systems, as well as BBcode enabled during reviews.

It also has a built in statistics page to your profile. You don't have to constantly go to MALgraph or other 3rd party websites that rely on the site's API to be running and then wait 3-4 minutes until they update your profile.
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Tbh I thought SigmaticDoc was pretty toxic on the discord so they might have gone harsher on him (and Anilist shill).
I am not a role model either but I never got into issues with the mods.
I was also online when he was discussing with Kagami about Anilist taking MAL's data and I found SigmaticDoc to be putting Kagami on a worse side than he was then went shittalking him on the Anilist discord.
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MAL is much easier to use. I can find anything I want much easier and all ranking lists and the personal anime/manga lists themselves are easier to venture through. I registered to Anilist after MAL went down and it's no competition for now.
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zal said:
@Botan-Chan45
Tbh I thought SigmaticDoc was pretty toxic on the discord so they might have gone harsher on him (and Anilist shill).
I am not a role model either but I never got into issues with the mods.
I was also online when he was discussing with Kagami about Anilist taking MAL's data and I found SigmaticDoc to be putting Kagami on a worse side than he was then went shittalking him on the Anilist discord.
oof, then describes his so called mal discord experience.
Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists.
Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance
Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo
Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud
https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a
Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime.
My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews
Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1
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AniList is an anime/manga database website just like MAL but with personal and global feeds for easier, more organic communication between users

Have Discord and majority of my friends on it, people I like to talk to and aren't on Discord communicate easily through PMs or profile comments, don't care

SigmaticDoc said:
5 different rating systems

Don't care, probably would just use 1 - 10 anyway so no difference for me

SigmaticDoc said:
as well as BBcode enabled during reviews.

Putting aside how I can easily see that making some of the reviews on that site eye cancer, don't care

SigmaticDoc said:

It also has a built in statistics page to your profile. You don't have to constantly go to MALgraph or other 3rd party websites that rely on the site's API to be running and then wait 3-4 minutes until they update your profile.

rarely used MALGraph in the long run, just for a short while to check certain stats on people after they said something dumb on the forums, and got tired of doing that eventually and it didn't last long

so don't care

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You have failed in shilling to me, sorry to say. I wish you the best of luck next time around, comrade.

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zal said:
@Botan-Chan45
Tbh I thought SigmaticDoc was pretty toxic on the discord so they might have gone harsher on him (and Anilist shill).
I am not a role model either but I never got into issues with the mods.
I was also online when he was discussing with Kagami about Anilist taking MAL's data and I found SigmaticDoc to be putting Kagami on a worse side than he was then went shittalking him on the Anilist discord.


You don't know anything about recent events though.
I haven't seen you online in months.
Also, you've never gotten into issues with the mods cause I've never seen you try to even criticize their approach to moderating.

About ''being toxic'' on their Discord. I was just bantering with everyone and it was all k. The only ''toxicity'' I've had on the server is all mod related because I always call people out if I think it's worth doing.

It just so happens that I'm fine in literally every other server that's not MAL's (and I'm in 75 servers on Discord, moderately active in most of them) so I don't really relate the issue with me.
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zal said:
@Botan-Chan45
Tbh I thought SigmaticDoc was pretty toxic on the discord so they might have gone harsher on him (and Anilist shill).
I am not a role model either but I never got into issues with the mods.
I was also online when he was discussing with Kagami about Anilist taking MAL's data and I found SigmaticDoc to be putting Kagami on a worse side than he was then went shittalking him on the Anilist discord.


You don't know anything about recent events though.
I haven't seen you online in months.
Also, you've never gotten into issues with the mods cause I've never seen you try to even criticize their approach to moderating.

About ''being toxic'' on their Discord. I was just bantering with everyone and it was all k. The only ''toxicity'' I've had on the server is all mod related because I always call people out if I think it's worth doing.
I make a point of criticizing anime not the people who like them, I try to respect it even if sometimes I might fail but I found among you one of the people who criticize people rather than just the anime the most, maybe just on MAL and on Anilist you have a different persona.
I don't know about a lot of events not only because we have different discord times but also because I don't care about what happens out of #anime and #manga (which is half dead anyway just like the manga forum here)
Again, personally I found more harshness from the mods towards "troublesome" users like you, Raiden who can't post a comment without a tard in there and someone with who I actually go along with but got banned for some petty reason. Personally I don't agree with this approach but I understand it and I am saying that while your experience might be that negative it doesn't apply to me.

Kagami might have gone off topic but instead of saying it (like I did about other things Kagami was talking about) you chose to say it's bad.
Kagami said Anilist copied MAL's database but I haven't seen him deny it about MAL so I don't see where he's in the wrong. At least MAL named the source and are trying to write their own content with MAL rewrite or something, Anilist doesn't do even the naming of the source.

I even have a screenshot of you saying
I was shilling Anilist so dam hard on MAL's discord
so hard that the MAL staff had to come
and say that it will count as advertisement
to even post ur anilist profile
:GWqlabsKek:
which is kinda admitting your own fault.
However I did post my anilist profile link at times (after that warning but before the return of lists) if people wanted to know my list and had no issue, so to me they're not as bad as you want to make them, although I see some of your points to a lesser degree.

Now that I looked at Anilist's discord even an Anilist discord mod told you that he'd see how your advertising would piss people off.

I will never consider using Anilist as main until they don't have an export function. Since they can import why they don't allow people to export eh???
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