| A thing noticed in anime that features characters having sex or where sex is a plot point, from what I know of the characters that have sex are usually either extremely flawed, depressed or antagonistic. For example, in School Days sex is the cause of certain character problems. White Album 2, the sex scene only comes after the characters reach their lowest point. Panty and Stocking, the 2 female leads like sex and they are portrayed as rude, insufferable and bad-mannered. It also seems shows like Nana, Kuzu no Honkai follow similar conventions from what I've heard. Same goes for manga like Oyasumi Punpun, Velvet Kiss, and the like. Why doesn't sex occur more often between characters who live a normal happy life and don't use sex to escape from sadness or life troubles? The only exceptions seem to be found in sex comedies or the like, but sex doesn't actually appear in those shows often. And please don't say, "because that happens in real life", I know that, I want to know why it's mostly the dark side of sexuality that is represented in Japanese entertainment. |
SuperRedJan 9, 2018 4:38 PM
| Then there's Yosuga no Sora where sex happens because MC has the wooing capabilities and it's a 'happy' occasion that you may have been wondering if it existed It may just be that all (or at least most) of the romances you listed are generally darker romance. Like Parasyte and even SAO have sex scenes in them technically, but they don't exhibit the negative plot points that you mentioned |
Short_CircutJan 9, 2018 4:51 PM
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| It's probably depicted because it causes problems, otherwise it wouldn't be part of the story, or just in the background. There is no need to focus on it. For exemple in the monogatari, Also for Nana, it's not a all always negative. Overall I don't feel the same way as you, in the few anime with sex I've seen it's as often positive as negative (Kemonozume or Eva(misato)) |
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| I thought about that many times. Even the shorter manga stories involve sex after negative events. They say that normally if partners experience sexual desire for each other, there is a greater change for positive outcomes in terms of closeness as well as a reduced likelihood to experience negative events. Maybe that is a main reason for it happening after bad events, but I'm probably thinking to deep in this. Maybe they just want to show people they should have sex after bad events so they will stay together. Would like to know what the main reason is lolol. |
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| People often view sex as one of the higher stepping stones in a relationship. With crossing that stepping stone comes many emotions. And happiness is for hentai. The only alternative is negativity for plot purposes. |
| thought you were coming here after you finished devilman fam =/, |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
| Part of the reason is like over half the examples are high school dramas with the others being drama. Relationships especially physical ones are by far the easiest method to introduce drama into a story and that isn't a Japanese specific feature for entertainment. In terms of non-drama romances it's generally an afterstory event or an end goal to show that the relationship was established, happily ever after, etc. But there are several series featuring sexual content that don't involve particularly negative emotions the first one that comes to mind being Okusama wa Seitokaichou or like Masou Gakuen HxH. |
| I'm pretty sure there are some anime that they just have sex cause they're a couple or want to reproduce a baby. So its not like all anime just has sex as a bad thing, you probably just watch more anime with that kind of theme. Clannad for example, best answer I can give. Bakuman, pretty damn sure Takagi did that considering that's his wife. SAO (highly debatable, but when they did do it, it was more to confirm their love for each other than escape reality [but I think reading 16.5, Kirito was using it to escape the game]) Amagami (VN, so idk if it counts, but if White Album is there, this should count) Tsuki ga Kirei Mashiro iro Symphony Pretty sure there's more, but since I don't keep a list of trash I used to watch, I don't remember. |
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| Because like you said, it is a plot point. To be more impactful But hey, if you want happy sex, vanilla hentai is a go. Aki-Sora is somewhat happy, would I call them depress? They are holding their inner desires to commit tabboo I guess. Or Amagami, technically they have sex Damn, thinking of anatagonistic sex makes me horny. Hate fucking is hot. |
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| If you want a sex scene that has a non-negative and plot-important implications, try Cross Ange. |
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| sex scane oftenly used as plot confiniece... that's all... just like anything, really.... if you want sex life potrayed normally, then it's when the shows normally has sex too... like hentai, or futari ecchi for example, or some shows already mentioned... |
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| sex is considered a stress reliever, and it's also a tools for craving affection towards someone. and it also triggered by certain behavior. Kuzu no Honkai for example, Nana is desperately craving for affection towards her senpai, but it's no use. instead, she's relieved those stress and affection into sexual interaction with other people. for Kuzu no Honkai who emphasized a story of many character with one-sided and/or unrequited love, the feeling of sadness and despair really take a huge role in this anime, these character certainly all craving for physical interaction. especially this is adapted from shoujo manga, the use of physical interaction is common. a certain behaviour can also triggered some character for using sex because, that's how they are. in Kuzu no Honkai, Akane is always using men as her sex friend, this behavior is explained by her that in the past, she loves to grabbing men attention, use men, and all of that. slutty, if you can explained it that way. Kuzu no Honkai is very unusual example because the main plot of the story is very depressing in the first place. as why sex is rarely used in normal life situation, there are sex scene in Namaikizakari, which is for me it's pretty happy. sex scene in shoujo manga probably considered a very final act of the story, or not used at all to retain its shcool life innocence aura in the story, or just to keep it friendly, like Taiyou no Ie for example. and also there's Bonnouji, a seinen manga that have the most happiest sex scene that i ever seen in manga. for short maybe: a good happy story didnt need any sexual interaction to achieve the happiness of the character in the story, because they practically had it good. but a bad depressing one, sex scene is the only thing that can retain the character happiness, let alone sex, a physical interaction scene probably will make them happy, because (maybe) that's their only best feeling that they will ever get in the whole story |
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| Sex happens in plenty of anime, no matter their genre. They don't show the scenes because there's no reason to. If a couple has sex, and we, the audience know that, would they need to show the actual sex scene? Would it make any difference? I don't think, or see, how "happy" sex can be a plot point. If everyone has happy sex, there's no real plot, so to say. That's why, when sex is used as a plot point, it'll be in a negative way. As in all the drama that you've mentioned. |
| Honestly I don't know... I admit I have thought about the subject... I would like to see more accurate portrays of sexual relations since the number one thing each of us is taught... Is that... "When a man and women love each other very much..." In other forms of entertainment, sex is equally portrayed in both manners... They show people who love each other, and people who want to escape... Anime seems to avoid the concept of sex quite frequently... At most you'll see a little shot of the after math or just the beginning but even that is rare... It's contradicting since anime has a reputation for going farther and deeper than most... But yet it shuns out one of the most influential things in humanity... Who knows... The anime industry is stranger than fiction... |
| Most anime features teenagers. Teenagers should not have sex. |
| Anime and manga doesn't really need to change its view towards sex(majority of it) Visual Novels and Light Novels/Web Novels does the job for it. |
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| Well, we all know how fucking purist the japanese and Otaku in particular are. The overarching narrative in a lot of romance anime is that relationships should be idealized and pure and sex is unnecessary/impure/dirty and you only need it if something is wrong with you. Not explicitly of course, but it kinda does feel like that. However that's only the case in romance anime. But there it's pretty much 100% true. If a romance anime involves sex it's gonna be a depressing and melodramatic one full of broken people. Correct me if I'm wrong :>. You can still get casual sex scenes in other genres tho, where it isn't put on some pedestal and just shown as a neutral thing that's part of people's life without generating depression or melodrama. I'm thinking of stuff like Golgo 13 or Onihei. Also idk about Panty & Stocking, that anime felt very sex-positive to me and they were having a good time with it. Just because you don't like their personalities (I found them a lot of fun btw doesn't mean it's focusing on the negative or depressing side of sex. On the contrary, I think Panty & Stocking is exceptional as an by being so openly sex-positive. It really doesn't fit your narrative. |
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| I think Futari Ecchi is a definite exception to this rule. |
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| @JokerJoestar huh... Panty&Stocking? The whole point of the plot is to shit on slut shaming. Punpun gave me a weird virgin women-hating vibe. It was well written, but depictions of sexuality in that manga... ewwww. |
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| Your average anime will have a cast which is a little young to be having sex just yet. While there's nothing wrong with school-aged people having sex in general, I think it's probably correlated reasonably strongly with some sort of problem, so it's not too surprising if that's what you tend to see in fiction. |
| Because sex is a bad thing. I don't watch Anime with sex in it. |
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JokerJoestar said: Why doesn't sex occur more often between characters who live a normal happy life and don't use sex to escape from sadness or life troubles? The only exceptions seem to be found in sex comedies or the like, but sex doesn't actually appear in those shows often. And please don't say, "because that happens in real life", I know that, I want to know why it's mostly the dark side of sexuality that is represented in Japanese entertainment. Because you are only looking at anime/manga that portray sex as like that, I think. There are many stories where sex is shown as the ultimate form of love and showing the happiness of the couple when they are the happiest. In manga, we have so many where sex is shown as the happiest moment that I will stop mentioning. But yeah, I get what you are trying to say here. I think showing sex as something dark does happen and leaves an impact on the viewers since I see more people seem to talk about the anime/manga you mentioned than the ones you didn't. At least not for sex. Btw, add this to your list: |
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Clebardman said: @JokerJoestar huh... Panty&Stocking? The whole point of the plot is to shit on slut shaming. Punpun gave me a weird virgin women-hating vibe. It was well written, but depictions of sexuality in that manga... ewwww. I only saw as an Adult Swim style comedy that tried to subvert the Yamato Nadeshiko/Magical Girl archetype by portraying the characters as loud, rude and dirty as possible. Which made them unlikable to me, not to mention how the comedy got annoying with each episode. The ending sucked too. |
| The Japanese culturally do not usually encourage things viewed as bad behavior, like crime, underage sex, and drug use even in their media. Especially in shows for children, teens, and young adults, if it is there they make sure to illustrate the fact that it's bad or has consequences somehow. Also Japanese are not the most openly affectionate culture. They like to keep private things private. Things like just kissing your loved one in public would be frowned upon by a lot of people. |
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JokerJoestar said: Clebardman said: @JokerJoestar huh... Panty&Stocking? The whole point of the plot is to shit on slut shaming. Punpun gave me a weird virgin women-hating vibe. It was well written, but depictions of sexuality in that manga... ewwww. I only saw as an Adult Swim style comedy that tried to subvert the Yamato Nadeshiko/Magical Girl archetype by portraying the characters as loud, rude and dirty as possible. Which made them unlikable to me, not to mention how the comedy got annoying with each episode. The ending sucked too. I agree with JokerJoestar. Panty and Stocking was a parody of American adult cartoons. Also the ending was stupid. This should help |
| I remember an anime on my list that has an example of positive sex that doesn't have a negative tone. https://myanimelist.net/anime/26349/Danna_ga_Nani_wo_Itteiru_ka_Wakaranai_Ken |
THIS!!! They really shouldn't; they are too immature to handle the consequences of it. :/ |
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| You should watch Kareshi Kanojo. It had a really sweet & mature portrayal of sexuality. But to answer your question, I think it's mainly darker, more serious shows that bother portraying sex at all. I think thats just cause of Japanese attitudes towards sexuality in general. |
| I think the problem is because the series that do have happy couples or even relationships will stay very chast, there isn't a ton of relationships in anime/manga that are of older relationships and that's not to say teens don't have sex it's just you never see them being all that raunchy about it. Like yeah somewhat in manga, certain shoujo especially but even then the sex usually leads to something or is a plot trigger so it's not something they do regularly. I've come to terms with it. But I have been seeing a lot of manhwa doing it from the ones I've read, Dark Heaven has pretty tame to extreme amounts of sexual relations through out the whole thing. |
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JokerJoestar said: youre clearly not watching the right stuff.....A thing noticed in anime that features characters having sex or where sex is a plot point, from what I know of the characters that have sex are usually either extremely flawed, depressed or antagonistic. For example, in School Days sex is the cause of certain character problems. White Album 2, the sex scene only comes after the characters reach their lowest point. Panty and Stocking, the 2 female leads like sex and they are portrayed as rude, insufferable and bad-mannered. It also seems shows like Nana, Kuzu no Honkai follow similar conventions from what I've heard. Same goes for manga like Oyasumi Punpun, Velvet Kiss, and the like. Why doesn't sex occur more often between characters who live a normal happy life and don't use sex to escape from sadness or life troubles? The only exceptions seem to be found in sex comedies or the like, but sex doesn't actually appear in those shows often. And please don't say, "because that happens in real life", I know that, I want to know why it's mostly the dark side of sexuality that is represented in Japanese entertainment. watch romantic vanilla hentai...... |
simonephone said: You should watch Kareshi Kanojo. It had a really sweet & mature portrayal of sexuality. That does handle it somewhat tastefully.... but I still thought they were too young. I'm just a prude old lady though. xD But in the manga |
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JokerJoestar said: A thing noticed in anime that features characters having sex or where sex is a plot point, from what I know of the characters that have sex are usually either extremely flawed, depressed or antagonistic. For example, in School Days sex is the cause of certain character problems. White Album 2, the sex scene only comes after the characters reach their lowest point. Panty and Stocking, the 2 female leads like sex and they are portrayed as rude, insufferable and bad-mannered. It also seems shows like Nana, Kuzu no Honkai follow similar conventions from what I've heard. Same goes for manga like Oyasumi Punpun, Velvet Kiss, and the like. Why doesn't sex occur more often between characters who live a normal happy life and don't use sex to escape from sadness or life troubles? The only exceptions seem to be found in sex comedies or the like, but sex doesn't actually appear in those shows often. And please don't say, "because that happens in real life", I know that, I want to know why it's mostly the dark side of sexuality that is represented in Japanese entertainment. ehhhh? you're cherry picking, there's plenty of anime where sex is completely normal or romantic and panty&stocking really doesn't fit in here, how does it portray sex negatively, lol? despite panty being a 'slut' it doesn't give any negative vibe, if anything it's more a healthy look on the matter - as a normal everyday thing. not making it into a huge taboo or anything, which is definitely a good thing |
ImaishiJan 13, 2018 3:52 PM
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