Why do people love an anime at start but when a critic says "this is shit" everyone suddenly thinks that particular anime is shit?
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Aug 26, 2017 9:01 PM
#1
For example: Erased(Peak:9.17 score), kabaneri(Peak: 8.7 score) Sword art online (peak: 8.87 score) This is just a few examples there are many more but when a critic says something bad everyone suddenly agrees with them and jump on the bandwagon. Even the YouTuber the anime man had a video where he said that SAO was a 9.5 in his opinion and deleted the video month afterwards and said "SAO is shit" I don't get this I mean why? |
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Aug 26, 2017 9:02 PM
#2
Because they don't want people to tell them that they have "shit taste", is the only thing I can think of. |
Aug 26, 2017 9:05 PM
#3
Ericonator said: Because they don't want people to tell them that they have "shit taste", is the only thing I can think of. Idk man whenever I meet people irl they always like those anime when I say that I love them but when I tell them I thought the anime is shit they agree.. Why can't they form their own opinion..? |
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. | You know what I hate the most? People who aren't free. They're no more than cattle. |
Aug 26, 2017 9:06 PM
#4
Because they opened up other avenues/perspective to view the show in that may shed much more negative light on the show? |
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Aug 26, 2017 9:07 PM
#5
quirow said: I think Erased was great! Kabaneri was ok. I freaking love SAO. And I think EroManga Sensei is a MASTERPIECE! Imo: Erased was a 9 Kabaneri a 2 (didn't like it, I still don't like it) SAO: Solid 9 And yeah SAGIRI BEST IMOUTO. But that doesn't answer my question really |
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Aug 26, 2017 9:07 PM
#6
All internet figures have their shitty egos and they don't want people to tell them they have shit taste. There's also something called "changing my mind" which is also pretty viable for people who don't pay attention when watching, then change their mind on an anime the moment any form of criticism comes up. They just weren't able to see the flaws at first. Also, important to ask, when did you get the "peak scores" from? Because some crazy people give their scores while an anime is airing, so a high peak in the case of Erased wouldn't be so surprising when it was airing, after all it's the ending that many people had problems with. |
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Aug 26, 2017 9:08 PM
#7
I want one example of this actually happening... There is no way this happens People aren't that weak willed...or so I hope |
Aug 26, 2017 9:10 PM
#8
Tbh, I wouldn't like those three even if critics would praise it. I don't recall them ever explaining the time travel thing in Erased, Kabaneri was kind of dumb in the second half, and SAO got progressively worse with its harem and borderline incest. Just a thought, but that might be why they went down. |
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Aug 26, 2017 9:14 PM
#9
the abnormal high score is purely because of hype Erased and Kanbanery caught my attention, but only for a while, lesson is: never put down score before the show end, with the exception of long running shows |
Aug 26, 2017 9:24 PM
#11
I don't think this has to due with critics... I mean ERASED is quite highly rated... As for the other two, they're average... It's just hype, and as time goes by the hype dies down and people comeback to their senses... Honestly where do you even read critic reviews? I doubt the major majority of watchers actually go find real critic reviews... |
Aug 26, 2017 9:25 PM
#12
social influence is a bitch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_influence |
Aug 26, 2017 9:26 PM
#13
I rate anime based off enjoyment. Erased was a 9/10 for me Haven't seen Kanabari. I've heard that it's a AOT rip-off but that's not gonna stop me from watching it. SAO is shit (just my opinion though). A lot of people say that Overlord I'd shit but I gave it a 10/10 because I though it was the best 'trapped in a mmo' I've ever seen. As far as other people go, I couldn't tell you. I find it difficult enough to know what I'm thinking, much more what the MAL community thinks XD |
Aug 26, 2017 9:26 PM
#14
because the majority of people only seem to watch what everyone else watches, therefore are more likely to be influenced by others opinions i really don't know why people give a shit what critics think.. their opinions don't become any more objective than anyone else's just because theyre "professionals" or have a large audience "that was dumb", "that doesn't work", "that was done really well", "that was really creative" are opinions no matter who says them |
Aug 26, 2017 9:31 PM
#15
Most of the 'peak' scores are tabulated by the scores given by people who watch the show as it airs. When one watches a show weekly, then the narrative inconsistencies are often difficult to pinpoint. Erased and SAO had genuinely awesome first episodes. SAO had pretty good art and music. While Erased boasted some stellar direction. Can't comment on Kabaneri because I haven't watched it. It's as the show goes on that problems pop up. Digibro and others ragging on shows might influence those who had mixed feelings about the show. I doubt that they would profoundly impact those people who either loved or hated a show. |
Aug 26, 2017 9:34 PM
#16
Because those people are sheep who cant forge their own opinions |
Aug 26, 2017 9:37 PM
#17
Erased is what got me into anime! I was wondering why it was getting mentioned less. people should just stick to there own opinion and not someone else's |
Aug 26, 2017 9:48 PM
#18
People in the anime community just parrot whatever the popular Youtubers say, which in turn spreads to other people who do the same thing. Basically it's all just a chain-connected hivemind that leads down from popular Youtubers at the top. Very few people are able to form their own opinions and come to their own conclusions in this community. |
Aug 26, 2017 9:54 PM
#19
I watched zero anime review videos and I can still say that all three of them declined sharply after the 'peaks', the former two more markedly |
Aug 26, 2017 9:58 PM
#20
Insecure. Low self-esteem. Want's to fit in with everyone else. Easily manipulated and influenced. Can't think for his or her self... *sigh* Sheeple. |
Aug 26, 2017 9:59 PM
#21
well Kabaneri was utter garbage, Zephsilver did a awesome review for that anime Haven't seen Sao, and I personally think Erased was good, but not as good as people thought, it could have been better but once you watch something the hypes let you drive in, but once you rewatch something you are going to see how bad (or not that good) an anime was for me, i'm rewatching Re:Zero with my brother, and couldn't believe how good it was at first, and how shit it turned after but i've learned, that 80% of the times, Popular anime tend to be quite bad |
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Aug 26, 2017 10:00 PM
#22
All 3 are just average to me. I don't think the score going down for those 3 anime had anything to do with critic. More like they were hyped at first but when hype gone, the rating drop. Either that or people have too much expectation due to hype but when it does not turn out to be good as the hype, some viewers feel disappointed and give the rating harshly. With the exception of maybe youtube,I don't think most anime fans care about anime critics. There are also the case when the anime went downhill. I thought Kabaneri started out ok but went downhill later on. |
ZapredonAug 26, 2017 10:28 PM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
Aug 26, 2017 10:04 PM
#23
Conformity. People don't like to be criticized and would rather bandwagon. |
Aug 26, 2017 10:07 PM
#24
I knew from the start that Kabaneri would be shit. When the first episode just gives action instead of good worldbuilding, you know it would be bad. As for erased, it has high scores, that's good enough. I liked SAO though. It was a trendsetter and has good animation. Anyone who disagrees is stupid. |
Aug 26, 2017 10:17 PM
#25
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_mentality people hear, people agree/disagree.. people follow... that's just how creature is... |
Aug 26, 2017 10:18 PM
#26
Brb said: I knew from the start that Kabaneri would be shit. When the first episode just gives action instead of good worldbuilding, you know it would be bad. As for erased, it has high scores, that's good enough. I liked SAO though. It was a trendsetter and has good animation. Anyone who disagrees is stupid. I disliked the whole concept of kabaneri. I thought it was bad from episode 1 til the end. I actually fell asleep twice while watching and rewatching episode 1 |
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Aug 26, 2017 10:29 PM
#27
Because people are easily influenced by these YouTubers and have weak wills. Or maybe they can't create their own opinions so they have to listen to some guy analysing and crapping on an anime. I also watch the videos of said YouTubers, but not once have they influenced my scores or the way I enjoy watching a particular anime. I do like some OP and ED analysis videos though. And about that Animeman video, I think he was just joking when he gave SAO 9.5. He hates it alright. |
Aug 26, 2017 11:13 PM
#29
Omkar_Nagwade said: Because people are easily influenced by these YouTubers and have weak wills. Or maybe they can't create their own opinions so they have to listen to some guy analysing and crapping on an anime. I also watch the videos of said YouTubers, but not once have they influenced my scores or the way I enjoy watching a particular anime. I do like some OP and ED analysis videos though. And about that Animeman video, I think he was just joking when he gave SAO 9.5. He hates it alright. no no no no he posted it after the first season ended he wasn't joking. When everyone called him a fag in the comments saying he has shit taste etc he removed the video a month later. And started saying fuck Sao.. pls he said "Shut up about SAO? It's not that often we get an anime so good with everything being perfect" Edit: if you don't believe me here is a link to his old blog: That's still ironically online I think he forgot his pw https://theanimeman.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/sword-art-online-review/ |
Takamura-samaAug 26, 2017 11:17 PM
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Aug 26, 2017 11:19 PM
#30
Well considering those three picks did legitimately start out good or great, towards the end, they all respectively kinda went head first one way or the other. When you don't see the show in a critical light, you tend to be blinded by whatever short comings those shows have. But then you might see someone's review explaining in depth of the flaws that held a show down and you suddenly think to yourself 'ok, this guy has a point. Maybe I was blinded and couldn't see the problems before me.' I dunno, or maybe just herd mentality and everyone jumping on hate bandwagon for no good reason. Either one makes sense. |
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Aug 26, 2017 11:20 PM
#31
because most people have sheep mentality and can't form their own opinion. they just try their best to follow the 'normal' trend. losers. |
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Aug 26, 2017 11:23 PM
#32
OmegaOtaku said: Well considering those three picks did legitimately start out good or great, towards the end, they all respectively kinda went head first one way or the other. When you don't see the show in a critical light, you tend to be blinded by whatever short comings those shows have. But then you might see someone's review explaining in depth of the flaws that held a show down and you suddenly think to yourself 'ok, this guy has a point. Maybe I was blinded and couldn't see the problems before me.' I dunno, or maybe just herd mentality and everyone jumping on hate bandwagon for no good reason. Either one makes sense. I think just bandwagon.. bandwagon is the answer bro |
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. | You know what I hate the most? People who aren't free. They're no more than cattle. |
Aug 26, 2017 11:28 PM
#33
Because people can't think for themselves. |
Aug 26, 2017 11:32 PM
#34
Ericonator said: Because they don't want people to tell them that they have "shit taste", is the only thing I can think of. Whenever i hear somebody say that somebody else has shit taste i automatically think that person has the same IQ as their age, even though saying people have shit taste is basically a full on meme now lol. |
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Aug 27, 2017 12:20 AM
#35
Aug 27, 2017 12:28 AM
#36
I didn't even see any critic speak badly of Erased when I finished it. I just decided it was just above average on my own. I admit that I became more apparent of SAOs flaws in time. Initially gave it a 7/10 but is now a 4/10 for me. |
Aug 27, 2017 12:57 AM
#37
quirow said: I think Erased was great! Kabaneri was ok. I freaking love SAO. And I think EroManga Sensei is a MASTERPIECE! Totally agree! I still remember like maybe a year and a half ago SAO was ranked in 300s now ranked below 1000. -you like some thing -90% of people talk sh*t about and call it trash -you go and lower the score of an anime you loved just to make your self feel better cause now nobody will say you have shit taste. wtf? |
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Aug 27, 2017 1:00 AM
#38
Takamura-sama said: For example: Erased(Peak:9.17 score), kabaneri(Peak: 8.7 score) Sword art online (peak: 8.87 score) This is just a few examples there are many more but when a critic says something bad everyone suddenly agrees with them and jump on the bandwagon. Even the YouTuber the anime man had a video where he said that SAO was a 9.5 in his opinion and deleted the video month afterwards and said "SAO is shit" I don't get this I mean why? Idk? :3 But I know one thing, even if he was a popular critic which always is right I would still disagree with him even if the anime in question I hold dear is to his dislike :3 If everyone agreed with each other and had the same taste then the world would be boring :3 |
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Aug 27, 2017 1:00 AM
#39
Becuase all the people obsessing over 'good taste' are actually just insecure about being looked down upon |
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Aug 27, 2017 1:05 AM
#40
People who change their likes based on someone else's likes are dumb and have no character. If I like something regardless or critics calling it trash or good then I like it there's no reason in faking hate/love except you really wanna be edgy and you let others lead your taste for you, that's weak. |
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Aug 27, 2017 1:07 AM
#41
>critic care to point names of such thing? Are you perhaps talking about Elitist? |
Aug 27, 2017 1:16 AM
#42
Well, I haven't watched SAO, but ERASED and Kabaneri definitely got worse as the episodes passed, Erased was still nice IMO (but it went from my favorite anime to an 8/10, it hurts) but Biba made Kabaneri such a trainwreck. |
Aug 27, 2017 2:30 AM
#43
MetaThPr4h said: Well, I haven't watched SAO, but ERASED and Kabaneri definitely got worse as the episodes passed, Erased was still nice IMO (but it went from my favorite anime to an 8/10, it hurts) but Biba made Kabaneri such a trainwreck. Yeah but why do people do this XD... that was basically my question |
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Aug 27, 2017 2:32 AM
#44
Takamura-sama said: It's simply not true, especially not when you generalize to this extent.This is just a few examples there are many more but when a critic says something bad everyone suddenly agrees with them and jump on the bandwagon. First of all if you take a random critic saying it's shit about an anime with hype no one will care, on the contrary they will get pitchforked by the fans for having a different opinion. If a random critic makes good points about why anime like SAO and Erased are shit then there will likely be all kinds of responses from haters praising them to fanboys telling them that they hate fun/have shit taste but passing through some more reasonable positive/negative/constructive/agreeing/disagreeing responses. If some popular critic says a random criticism then some of his fanbase bandwagons against said anime that's not necessarily because of the criticism nor because he is a critic but possibly because said person is an influencer (especially youtube "critics") and their opinion have more following because of their reach. However bandwagons are less illogical than you might think, it's not just about hating on an anime because a critic said some negative things about it. In order for a criticism to create bandwagon it needs to be grounded in reality or for most people to relate to it and it needs a trigger/justification from said anime. Kabaneri's trigger was the arrival of Biba, Erased's might be various for different people but the usual ones I see around are the killer reveal and that Kayo marries someone else. But it's not just because someone said it is shit, more likely because the "this is shit" is motivated by relatable arguments then when it comes to a breaking point like those I mentioned you can actually see a bandwagon. Erased was nonsense feels trip since the beginning but people will say it's gotten bad around ep 6 or something but it's not the case, it's just that from that point onward the show doesn't bring in the feels anymore for them. Theanimeman backtracking his opinions when he gets shit or backlash from some parts of the community is not news. He's the type of youtuber (like most of them) that tries to follow the flow of the community. I remember that Forneverworld said Erased wasn't anything special after watching the first episode until he realized how popular it was then suddenly it became one of his favorite anime of the season but I have no idea what he said about it after its end. |
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Aug 27, 2017 4:14 AM
#45
people who review anime and say bad things about a certain anime and if there are a lot of those people just say ''omg that anime is so bad'' |
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Aug 27, 2017 2:15 PM
#46
It's because young, impressionable kids who go on the internet see somebody older than them saying that their anime is bad. I remember those big anime Youtubers picking on SAO and everybody agreed with them because they gave evidence. If a person you looked up to proved how your anime you like is bad, you'd probably not enjoy it as much as you did before. |
Aug 27, 2017 2:20 PM
#47
People's tastes can evolve too. Maybe The Anime Man got hit in the face really hard and snapped back to reality. |
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Aug 27, 2017 2:23 PM
#48
maybe because the story goes nowhere as plot progresses i dont think SAO is shit, but s2 is it often happens with the start of the anime. they show something promising and deliver something diffrent |
Aug 27, 2017 2:31 PM
#49
isekai said: social influence is a bitch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_influence Social influence + Hype effect, that's it |
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