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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Intense.... Erin is prepared to suicide if things go bad. Kirik is seeing more and more his dead sister in Erin... Will he be going through a change of heart at one point? I found it interesting that Erin's childhood friend thought she was dead long time ago... Erin was at least successful at tricking Damiya that her techniques cannot be taught, despite her being cornered by him...(hostages) Great episode with more and more buildup... Next episode: Sezan getting changed? Damiya's doing obviously but what role will Kirik play? |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
wakka9ca said: I found it interesting that Erin's childhood friend thought she was dead long time ago... Erin was at least successful at tricking Damiya that her techniques cannot be taught I love how Damiya thought he was warning Erin when he said that the ability to control ouju would be lost if a touda rider was king, and all he did was give Erin hope and possibly a plan. |
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| Waaa... it surprised me that Erin carries a knife with her all the time now. She did say earlier that she'd ready to sacrifice herself it it meant preventing a disaster, but it still surprised me. And Ering shows her smarts again with making Damiya believe that she has supernatural powers to control the beasts. That was real smart. Show him, Erin!!! And Damiya tries threatening her, but it worked in the opposite direction. *jumping and cheering* GO ERIN!!! |
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wakka9ca said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. --------------------------------------- I found it interesting that Erin's childhood friend thought she was dead long time ago... Her friend knew nothing of what happened. I'm guessing she was told later by the town elder and that asshole that Erin died trying to save her mother. Obviously as a way to keep word from spreading of what really happened. I'm sure they will meet really soon. The story is indeed heating up. Cant wait to find out what Erin will do. Oh one other thing to note. It looks like Damiya is appointing to bad guys as Sezon (sp?) and removing past members. What a jackass. I hope he gets eaten in the end. |
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DeathfireD said: Oh one other thing to note. It looks like Damiya is appointing to bad guys as Sezon (sp?) and removing past members. What a jackass. I hope he gets eaten in the end. Yeah, I ws wondering about that preview. I guess only Damiya would do something like that. And I *really* want to know what he needs it for. I also hope he'll get eaten, but then I doubt he will. He's always so *carefull*. |
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| Know your TvTropes. Apparently he is not a GenreSavvy BigBad so it is pretty much guaranteed that he will die in the end or something |
| Not impressed by Erin at all. She's totally reactive now. |
| Too bad Erin blew the whistle. Well, she'd probably be executed if she didn't. I agree with noteDhero, it's not really impressive coming from Erin... It's just what she'd usually think of. I do wonder why the Beastlord obeyed Erin, but not the caretaker... It's not like she had a bond with him or anything. I guess that Erin will meet her old friend when she's on the Beastlord and that it won't be a happy return. Still do not like Damiya. Drop dead already. Why would he change the Sezan? Probably to not have a familiar someone around Erin to protect her, like Ial. |
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| The beast lord recognized the caretaker as someone who blows the whistle. We already know that they remember seeing who does that to them, and making an association in the future. I don't think that it can work again with Erin, but she was so far away that it might not matter. |
noteDhero said: The beast lord recognized the caretaker as someone who blows the whistle. We already know that they remember seeing who does that to them, and making an association in the future. I don't think that it can work again with Erin, but she was so far away that it might not matter. Actually it's a different reason that you will hear about in ep 46 If you want to know here it is (spoiler?): |
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| I was wondering why Erin could approach the beast-lord too. noteDhero's explanation makes sense, but it'll be interesting to see how episode 46 explains it. My only guess is that Erin's eye contact helped calm it down and she was slow in invading its personal space. I was sort of hoping Erin would go crazy and stab Damiya near the end of the episode, but that'd be too anti-climactic; plus, it would be uncharacteristic of her. Now that I think about it, she's usually been on the defensive when facing aggression in the series. I'm glad Damiya didn't try any more moves on her while they were alone. It looks like he's getting cocky by bringing in new men (who are probably the masked guys from before posing as Saigamul). The Sezans will suspect something, but that's probably why they're going to get attacked (judging by the preview). Erin already has the smarts to outwit Damiya-- only reason he's been such a thorn is because of his position. I wish she would drop the suicidal thoughts. It was cool to see Saju. I'm surprised she already has a kid. Here's hoping that she and Erin (and Chok) get to see each other again. |
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| This series has been nothing but a series of bad things for this country, but Erin deposing the child-queen in favor of Shunan is the first good news on the horizon since the start. Interesting to see that Erin's old friend in Aku has been a mother for 3-5 years at age 18. Realistic pre-modern marital/procreation culture. |
aoikishu said: I love how Damiya thought he was warning Erin when he said that the ability to control ouju would be lost if a touda rider was king, and all he did was give Erin hope and possibly a plan. Damiya's a moron. Figures he would end up saying the wrong thing, bwahaha. I hope Erin is successful in whatever she manages to do in the end! Obviously she would much rather the Beast-Lord-taming techniques to just be forgotten. You'd think she'd want the Touda-taming techniques to be forgotten, too. I wonder if she thinks that Touda will become redundant if the Duke is King? ... I wonder what she's thinking period, I guess. Can't wait to see how this all unravels! I hope it doesn't end up with Erin killing herself, of course. It kind of surprised me that she's prepared to commit suicide, if everything goes awry. (Er, more awry than it already has.) |
| Erin has the Sharingan. |
| Am I the only one who thought Damiya said that on purpose? I think Erin should have an audience with the Duke's son. :/ |
| Oh wow this sure is taking up an heavy road! Things sure are getting good! |
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| Chok and Saju got together? Teehee ^^ Damiya thought Erin would just bow to him like that haha. Fortunately the girl's much smarter than he is and completely played him. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| I actually would be really happy if Erin decides to side with the Grand Duke . . . Honestly, between an ignorant Queen and a rotten Uncle, the royal family is nothing but a waste of space. |
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| Yep, Damiya is a total bastard, but the situation is a but impossible to get out of. |
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aoikishu said: I love how Damiya thought he was warning Erin when he said that the ability to control ouju would be lost if a touda rider was king, and all he did was give Erin hope and possibly a plan. Me too, although reading the synopsis of the coming episodes I've less hope :( |
| That guy shitting his pants was hilarious. Looks like Daimiya is an even bigger snake than I thought. |
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| I'm still worried, but Erin surprised me once again, she's not giving up her ways at all! She's even ready to kill herself if it's necessary, and this isn't an easy resolve to have, she also is doing what she can so that they don't take advantage of her, standing her ground against Damiya. She only complied because it was the only way she could stay with Lilan and her family, and still protect them. I also loved that scene with Kiriku at the start, his "People are powerless. It's not a sin to live abiding by your fate." quote was quite poignant. Erin also confided to him her doubts about the way she raised Lilan, she was still feeling really lost. At least now she's finally seeing the light, and the funny thing is that Damiya was the one that unknowingly gave her this prospect. If the Grand Duke were to become king, it would make the Beast-Lords free, but I pity the Touda that would continue to be enslaved, and I guess this kind of Touda domination could also bring serious problems in the long term, but it won't be a worry for her generation if Shunan were to be the king though. And at least the tragedy behind the country wouldn't happen again, so I like her view on the matter. But Damiya is the worst, I loved how Erin called him rotten, because that's what he is, holding the people she care about as hostages, preventing her from speaking with Seimiya, trying to force her to comply in the worst possible way. But she was so smart to use the preconceptions they have against her folk as a weapon though! She's been ostracized a lot because of her origins, and now for the first time they helped her. I loved how she fooled Damiya, at least for now. This "Akun Me Chai" seems like a pejorative term, and if she knows it it's because she heard it when she was a kid, the poor girl. It was awful to see that the hateful Wadan is still doing fine, but nice that her childhood friends married each other, and have a kid, I guess. Also, Ial is coming back into the picture in the next episode, and I can't wait! |
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| If the duke is good for one thing, it's the idea he accidentally gave to Erin Seems like Erin got no choice.. for now Can't wait for the new Queen's death, that probably won't happen :P Instead the death of her country maybe |
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| I like Damiya, he plays his antagonistic role well for me to be impressed. I liked how he threatened Erin and the academy. But in that situation, all Erin could think was Lilan. |
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| Omg is Erin gonna pull the strings to make the Grand Duke become king so that she'd be executed and the beast lords will be able to live in peace? What's this plan she's got? Also the harp thing she did was pretty cool, how'd she do it? I wanna knowwwwww |
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 Damiya standing in front of Erin, trying to block the light, yet failing to fully engulf her in shadows. It's subtle, but there's a balance of power between characters shown throughout the show. This is obvious with things like the Queen sitting above others, or that comment in episode 39 of how no one should look at the Queen from above the cliff. It can be seen here to, where Damiya tries to constantly assert dominance over Erin physically (locking her in his room, approaching her aggressively to intimidate) and emotionally (threatening the safety of the Kazalm staff/students, as well as Yuuyan). Damiya has controlled and dominated others in the past, as demonstrated by his relative position to the former and present Queens. The discussion first starts with both of them sitting on the same chair, with Damiya comfortably reclining on the left side while Erin sat timidly and straight up on the right side. They entered the discussion on somewhat equal terms, but over time, Damiya's façade faded as his true intentions came forth. However, not matter how much he tried to dominate Erin in terms of visual space on screen, Erin never backed down, culminating in her realization towards the end regarding the method of sealing away beast-lord control. Throughout all this, while Damiya, at times, stood over Erin in some manner, she constantly retained control of herself and her position, remaining standing and in range of light throughout the scene. I'm probably digging too deep, but there's still a lot of interesting framing throughout the episode nonetheless. |
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Damiya standing in front of Erin, trying to block the light, yet failing to fully engulf her in shadows.
It's subtle, but there's a balance of power between characters shown throughout the show. This is obvious with things like the Queen sitting above others, or that comment in episode 39 of how no one should look at the Queen from above the cliff. It can be seen here to, where Damiya tries to constantly assert dominance over Erin physically (locking her in his room, approaching her aggressively to intimidate) and emotionally (threatening the safety of the Kazalm staff/students, as well as Yuuyan). Damiya has controlled and dominated others in the past, as demonstrated by his relative position to the former and present Queens.
The discussion first starts with both of them sitting on the same chair, with Damiya comfortably reclining on the left side while Erin sat timidly and straight up on the right side. They entered the discussion on somewhat equal terms, but over time, Damiya's façade faded as his true intentions came forth. However, not matter how much he tried to dominate Erin in terms of visual space on screen, Erin never backed down, culminating in her realization towards the end regarding the method of sealing away beast-lord control. Throughout all this, while Damiya, at times, stood over Erin in some manner, she constantly retained control of herself and her position, remaining standing and in range of light throughout the scene.
I'm probably digging too deep, but there's still a lot of interesting framing throughout the episode nonetheless.
| @Shocked As a literature student, I appreciated the details you indicated because I didn't realized these small details while watching now it seems more pointed. |
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