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Aug 19, 2015 10:44 AM
#552
They were lying to us all along. |
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Aug 20, 2015 1:52 AM
#554
Dec 13, 2015 7:08 PM
#555
Who do you think is the most skilled swordsman (or woman) in anime/manga? Also please not that this is not about power, magic or with any outside help, but rather skill with the sword. |
Unsane_HawkDec 13, 2015 7:29 PM
Dec 13, 2015 7:14 PM
#556
Nostalgia makes me say the Hitokiri Battousai. |
I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives. |
Dec 13, 2015 7:24 PM
#557
Sasaki Kojiro from Fate/Stay Night. Replicating True Magic just with pure skill and swallow slayering is serious business. |
Dec 13, 2015 8:55 PM
#558
Oudissy said: Sasaki Kojiro from Fate/Stay Night. Replicating True Magic just with pure skill and swallow slayering is serious business. |
Dec 13, 2015 8:56 PM
#559
Any run of the mill shounnen profag who has a sword |
Dec 13, 2015 8:58 PM
#560
Irrelative said: Oudissy said: Sasaki Kojiro from Fate/Stay Night. Replicating True Magic just with pure skill and swallow slayering is serious business. ^ in a fight with another swordsman barring muh magic, sasaki would win. idk if there's been another swordsman besides kenshin who's skill was praised as much. i'd say hiei would fight against him fairly but i'm biased. |
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Dec 13, 2015 9:00 PM
#561
mugen can break dance while he fights. i think that's an automatic win. |
Dec 13, 2015 9:45 PM
#562
Dec 13, 2015 9:46 PM
#563
Dec 13, 2015 10:49 PM
#564
It's funny how you say Kirito's the most skilled, given that he isn't even in-universe (Kayaba was a better swordsman, I'd say). And he didn't even perform any outstanding feats of skill (like chopping vegetables mid-air, something most comedy samurai girls can do). I wonder if Rakudai's MC can rival FSN's Assassin. One can learn the opponent's skill on the fly, the other can measure an invisible sword's length. (Assassin would win in a fight, because one of his abilities is that his swordsmanship cannot be "seen through" by his opponents or something like that) |
ShockedDec 15, 2015 1:51 AM
Dec 13, 2015 10:50 PM
#565
Guts. That guy killed over 100 dudes at once and the manga made it seem a believable feat. |
Dec 13, 2015 10:59 PM
#566
flannan said: It's funny how you say Kirito's the most skilled, given that he isn't even in-universe (Kayaba was a better swordsman, I'd say). And he didn't even perform any outstanding feats of skill (like chopping vegetables mid-air, something most comedy samurai girls can do). She wasn't serious. |
ShockedDec 15, 2015 1:51 AM
Dec 13, 2015 11:22 PM
#567
Dec 14, 2015 12:28 AM
#568
Oudissy said: Sasaki Kojiro from Fate/Stay Night. Replicating True Magic just with pure skill and swallow slayering is serious business. |
Wohooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
Dec 14, 2015 12:39 AM
#569
In any case I doubt Guts has true skill .It's more of power so insane that no one can stop him Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
ShockedDec 15, 2015 1:52 AM
Wohooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
Dec 14, 2015 12:43 AM
#570
Bernkastel said: AzureDaora said: Bernkastel said: I want to say Hiko Seijuro, but Nanami Yasuri is probably stronger. Except copying other sword styles is just to make herself weaker. Her "original" technique was already perfect. Ignoring stamina issues, there's no way Shichika could take her at any point. umm, but as far as I know Nanami doesn't have any "original" technique other than Migeika, which is copying other techniques. Her Kyotoryu was just copied from Shichika. |
Dec 14, 2015 12:43 AM
#571
Baitdragon16 said: Deago said: Lvin_20 said: Guts? Seriously, There're about 20 comments above you, and nobody has mentioned this MAN?! Cuz Kojiro is cooler .In any case I doubt Guts has true skill .It's more of power so insane that no one can stop him ^ Guts is more power and less skill IMO. |
Dec 14, 2015 1:44 AM
#572
King Bradley. I mean, when you are capable of defeat an homunculus with a super armor, destroy a fucking tank alone with only two swords or standing until your last breath despite having both of your arms ripped, when your only superpower is an enhanced eye and you don't have regenerative powers, you know that you are skilled (and badass) as fuck. Also: Oudissy said: Sasaki Kojiro from Fate/Stay Night. Replicating True Magic just with pure skill and swallow slayering is serious business. |
IllyricusDec 14, 2015 1:55 AM
Dec 15, 2015 1:54 AM
#573
Merged Threads Remember to say why you think a certain swordsman is the best and not just singular "___ is the best" answers, else the thread risks devolving into spam. On that note, off the top of my head I can think of Utena Tenjou, though the reasons I like her aren't tied just to her swordsmanship, and more so for plot and character reasons. |
ShockedDec 15, 2015 1:59 AM
Dec 15, 2015 2:05 AM
#574
Dec 15, 2015 3:26 AM
#576
Hello said: Gintoki because he always say something sentimental before kicking the guy's ass That's one of the worst things about him imo. Makes me roll my eyes most of the time. |
Dec 15, 2015 3:27 AM
#577
tsudecimo said: Hello said: Gintoki because he always say something sentimental before kicking the guy's ass That's one of the worst things about him imo. Makes me roll my eyes most of the time. they do that in naruto all the time why is it a problem in gintama for you? |
Dec 15, 2015 3:40 AM
#578
Randoll_ said: tsudecimo said: Hello said: Gintoki because he always say something sentimental before kicking the guy's ass That's one of the worst things about him imo. Makes me roll my eyes most of the time. they do that in naruto all the time why is it a problem in gintama for you? I actually prefer these theatrical lines before you win kinda things. Its like a must in some cases. But yeah not needed everywhere. |
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Dec 15, 2015 3:52 AM
#579
hoopla123 said: Baitdragon16 said: Deago said: Lvin_20 said: Guts? Seriously, There're about 20 comments above you, and nobody has mentioned this MAN?! Cuz Kojiro is cooler .In any case I doubt Guts has true skill .It's more of power so insane that no one can stop him ^ Guts is more power and less skill IMO. Guts is power-type sure, but that doesn't mean he's lacking in skill. After all most of his opponents(the notable ones atleast) are stronger/toughter than him, he makes up for that with skill/experience and his gear. Like he could match Zodd in a swordfight. |
Dec 15, 2015 6:27 AM
#581
shintai88 said: Randoll_ said: tsudecimo said: Hello said: Gintoki because he always say something sentimental before kicking the guy's ass That's one of the worst things about him imo. Makes me roll my eyes most of the time. they do that in naruto all the time why is it a problem in gintama for you? I actually prefer these theatrical lines before you win kinda things. Its like a must in some cases. But yeah not needed everywhere. Well sure. But the problem is that Gintoki is portrayed as a lazy, apathetic, anti shounen jump protagonist. So it makes me cringe when he suddenly become what he makes fun of. That and his lines in particular are worse than the usual protagonists. Cheesy lines about souls and such.. |
Dec 15, 2015 7:13 AM
#582
Zoro from one piece , he is too badass |
Dec 15, 2015 7:18 AM
#583
tsudecimo said: Well sure. But the problem is that Gintoki is portrayed as a lazy, apathetic, anti shounen jump protagonist. So it makes me cringe when he suddenly become what he makes fun of. That and his lines in particular are worse than the usual protagonists. Cheesy lines about souls and such.. Honestly i am a big fan of Gintama, but after couple of times of rewatching (well i run out anime to watch and i have to download if i wanna to watch the new series) i feel the same way like this too. The action parts are not that interesting anymore imo but not with the comedy tho especially the old Gintama. I haven't watched the new episodes, Shogun assassination arc. Hope it will turn good. |
Dec 15, 2015 7:28 AM
#584
UpperCat said: tsudecimo said: Well sure. But the problem is that Gintoki is portrayed as a lazy, apathetic, anti shounen jump protagonist. So it makes me cringe when he suddenly become what he makes fun of. That and his lines in particular are worse than the usual protagonists. Cheesy lines about souls and such.. Honestly i am a big fan of Gintama, but after couple of times of rewatching (well i run out anime to watch and i have to download if i wanna to watch the new series) i feel the same way like this too. The action parts are not that interesting anymore imo but not with the comedy tho especially the old Gintama. I haven't watched the new episodes, Shogun assassination arc. Hope it will turn good. Yup. Many will disagree but the action and serious portions of Gintama, really brings the show down for me. I think the serious arcs aside from maybe 2 are really boring and generic. And I also can't help but get annoyed by the show's hypocrisy. It's not able to mix comedy and seriousness appropriately. Shogun Assassination arc is really hyped by manga readers so it will probably turn out decent, at least as good or better than 4 divas arc. |
Dec 15, 2015 7:54 AM
#585
I don't get you guys. This should be obvious af. 1. Wields a 190cm sword that shouldn't be that easy to wield at all. Yet he swings it around like a dagger. 2. Fights against multiple Noble Phantasm users with a normal, human-made sword. Repels every one of them, INCLUDING BERSERKER, with the help of Caster. 3. Pisses off Caster, his ribs are turned inside out, continues to speak normally as if nothing happened. 4. Has a skill on the level of an NP, which he got by doing the same thing over and over until reality gave up and let him have that move. And look at them stats: Manages to fight (post-Caster UBW) Saber to a standstill, and only loses because he deliberately forced an end to their fight. |
Dec 15, 2015 8:19 AM
#586
OneTrueBaita said: I don't get you guys. This should be obvious af. 1. Wields a 190cm sword that shouldn't be that easy to wield at all. Yet he swings it around like a dagger. 2. Fights against multiple Noble Phantasm users with a normal, human-made sword. Repels every one of them, INCLUDING BERSERKER, with the help of Caster. 3. Pisses off Caster, his ribs are turned inside out, continues to speak normally as if nothing happened. 4. Has a skill on the level of an NP, which he got by doing the same thing over and over until reality gave up and let him have that move. And look at them stats: Manages to fight (post-Caster UBW) Saber to a standstill, and only loses because he deliberately forced an end to their fight. But all this just shows he's a mediocre swordsman. If I had to go for one, it'd be Sebastian from Black Butler. Everything he does, including swordsmanship, is perfect. |
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Dec 15, 2015 8:25 AM
#587
CherryLover said: But all this just shows he's a mediocre swordsman. If I had to go for one, it'd be Sebastian from Black Butler. Everything he does, including swordsmanship, is perfect. Swordsman, not swordsdemon Also, Assassin beats him in combat. Can he dodge three simultaneous slashes, all aimed to kill? |
Dec 15, 2015 8:28 AM
#588
OneTrueBaita said: CherryLover said: But all this just shows he's a mediocre swordsman. If I had to go for one, it'd be Sebastian from Black Butler. Everything he does, including swordsmanship, is perfect. Swordsman, not swordsdemon Also, Assassin beats him in combat. Can he dodge three simultaneous slashes, all aimed to kill? Are you trying to be literal now? Assassin would be a swordswraith Yes, he can. His movements are far above Assassin's level. There's a reason why he's the perfect butler. |
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Dec 15, 2015 8:31 AM
#589
CherryLover said: OneTrueBaita said: CherryLover said: But all this just shows he's a mediocre swordsman. If I had to go for one, it'd be Sebastian from Black Butler. Everything he does, including swordsmanship, is perfect. Swordsman, not swordsdemon Also, Assassin beats him in combat. Can he dodge three simultaneous slashes, all aimed to kill? Are you trying to be literal now? Assassin would be a swordswraith Yes, he can. His movements are far above Assassin's level. There's a reason why he's the perfect butler. Assassin used to be a man. Sebastian never was a man. Which is why the former counts as a swordsman while the latter is as much a swordsman as idk, Crimson Moon is, if he wields his Knight Arm. No, he cannot. A+ agility = more than 50 times faster than the top speed of a normal human's movements. Not even Saber could escape from it, even when her stats got inflated at the end of UBW. |
Dec 15, 2015 8:35 AM
#590
OneTrueBaita said: CherryLover said: OneTrueBaita said: CherryLover said: But all this just shows he's a mediocre swordsman. If I had to go for one, it'd be Sebastian from Black Butler. Everything he does, including swordsmanship, is perfect. Swordsman, not swordsdemon Also, Assassin beats him in combat. Can he dodge three simultaneous slashes, all aimed to kill? Are you trying to be literal now? Assassin would be a swordswraith Yes, he can. His movements are far above Assassin's level. There's a reason why he's the perfect butler. Assassin used to be a man. Sebastian never was a man. Which is why the former counts as a swordsman while the latter is as much a swordsman as idk, Crimson Moon is, if he wields his Knight Arm. No, he cannot. A+ agility = more than 50 times faster than the top speed of a normal human's movements. Not even Saber could escape from it, even when her stats got inflated at the end of UBW. That's being very very close-minded. So if you aren't a human or was a human, you can't be a swordsman? Yes, he can. 50 times faster is nothing. Sebastian can easily top that. As you said, he's a demon. Hence human parameters are nothing to him. |
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Dec 15, 2015 8:40 AM
#591
CherryLover said: OneTrueBaita said: CherryLover said: OneTrueBaita said: CherryLover said: But all this just shows he's a mediocre swordsman. If I had to go for one, it'd be Sebastian from Black Butler. Everything he does, including swordsmanship, is perfect. Swordsman, not swordsdemon Also, Assassin beats him in combat. Can he dodge three simultaneous slashes, all aimed to kill? Are you trying to be literal now? Assassin would be a swordswraith Yes, he can. His movements are far above Assassin's level. There's a reason why he's the perfect butler. Assassin used to be a man. Sebastian never was a man. Which is why the former counts as a swordsman while the latter is as much a swordsman as idk, Crimson Moon is, if he wields his Knight Arm. No, he cannot. A+ agility = more than 50 times faster than the top speed of a normal human's movements. Not even Saber could escape from it, even when her stats got inflated at the end of UBW. That's being very very close-minded. So if you aren't a human or was a human, you can't be a swordsman? Yes, he can. 50 times faster is nothing. Sebastian can easily top that. As you said, he's a demon. Hence human parameters are nothing to him. Please, Cherry. Swordsman. That implies the person is a male human. If you want to describe a non-human using a sword, then just call him/her a sword user. No, he cannot. And I'll leave it at that, since we aren't coming to an agreement in any way. |
Dec 15, 2015 8:43 AM
#592
OneTrueBaita said: CherryLover said: OneTrueBaita said: CherryLover said: OneTrueBaita said: CherryLover said: But all this just shows he's a mediocre swordsman. If I had to go for one, it'd be Sebastian from Black Butler. Everything he does, including swordsmanship, is perfect. Swordsman, not swordsdemon Also, Assassin beats him in combat. Can he dodge three simultaneous slashes, all aimed to kill? Are you trying to be literal now? Assassin would be a swordswraith Yes, he can. His movements are far above Assassin's level. There's a reason why he's the perfect butler. Assassin used to be a man. Sebastian never was a man. Which is why the former counts as a swordsman while the latter is as much a swordsman as idk, Crimson Moon is, if he wields his Knight Arm. No, he cannot. A+ agility = more than 50 times faster than the top speed of a normal human's movements. Not even Saber could escape from it, even when her stats got inflated at the end of UBW. That's being very very close-minded. So if you aren't a human or was a human, you can't be a swordsman? Yes, he can. 50 times faster is nothing. Sebastian can easily top that. As you said, he's a demon. Hence human parameters are nothing to him. Please, Cherry. Swordsman. That implies the person is a male human. If you want to describe a non-human using a sword, then just call him/her a sword user. No, he cannot. And I'll leave it at that, since we aren't coming to an agreement in any way. I give up. You're insufferable like this. Why are you using such a literal reading of a term when the term is used in the wider sense? Sebastian is a demon, but he uses swords. Hence, he is a swordsman. Simple as that. |
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Dec 15, 2015 8:46 AM
#594
if we're talking in terms of pure skill then its either kenshin or demon eyes kyo imo... but if destructive power is included than its hawkeye from One Piece... |
Dec 15, 2015 8:46 AM
#595
CherryLover said: OneTrueBaita said: CherryLover said: OneTrueBaita said: CherryLover said: OneTrueBaita said: CherryLover said: But all this just shows he's a mediocre swordsman. If I had to go for one, it'd be Sebastian from Black Butler. Everything he does, including swordsmanship, is perfect. Swordsman, not swordsdemon Also, Assassin beats him in combat. Can he dodge three simultaneous slashes, all aimed to kill? Are you trying to be literal now? Assassin would be a swordswraith Yes, he can. His movements are far above Assassin's level. There's a reason why he's the perfect butler. Assassin used to be a man. Sebastian never was a man. Which is why the former counts as a swordsman while the latter is as much a swordsman as idk, Crimson Moon is, if he wields his Knight Arm. No, he cannot. A+ agility = more than 50 times faster than the top speed of a normal human's movements. Not even Saber could escape from it, even when her stats got inflated at the end of UBW. That's being very very close-minded. So if you aren't a human or was a human, you can't be a swordsman? Yes, he can. 50 times faster is nothing. Sebastian can easily top that. As you said, he's a demon. Hence human parameters are nothing to him. Please, Cherry. Swordsman. That implies the person is a male human. If you want to describe a non-human using a sword, then just call him/her a sword user. No, he cannot. And I'll leave it at that, since we aren't coming to an agreement in any way. I give up. You're insufferable like this. Why are you using such a literal reading of a term when the term is used in the wider sense? Sebastian is a demon, but he uses swords. Hence, he is a swordsman. Simple as that. No, that's not how it works. As according to the Oxford English Dictionary, used widely in defining words in both normal and legal circumstances, a swordsman is "a man who fights with a sword". Oxford English dictionary. (2014) Vol. 2. 8th ed. Oxford: Oxford University Press. Therefore, Sebastian, a demon, cannot be a swordsman. |
Dec 15, 2015 8:47 AM
#596
AzureDaora said: Bernkastel said: Same. Nanami is OP as fuck as she can use any swordfighting style she sees, but maybe last episode Yasuri Shichika is stronger.I want to say Hiko Seijuro, but Nanami Yasuri is probably stronger. Agreed, Nanami Yasuri. Mastering new techniques with no effort, too powerful to be taught the style of Kyotouryuu. Pretty messed up in the head though. |
Dec 15, 2015 8:47 AM
#597
Dec 15, 2015 8:48 AM
#598
Dec 15, 2015 8:50 AM
#599
OneTrueBaita said: CherryLover said: OneTrueBaita said: CherryLover said: OneTrueBaita said: CherryLover said: OneTrueBaita said: CherryLover said: But all this just shows he's a mediocre swordsman. If I had to go for one, it'd be Sebastian from Black Butler. Everything he does, including swordsmanship, is perfect. Swordsman, not swordsdemon Also, Assassin beats him in combat. Can he dodge three simultaneous slashes, all aimed to kill? Are you trying to be literal now? Assassin would be a swordswraith Yes, he can. His movements are far above Assassin's level. There's a reason why he's the perfect butler. Assassin used to be a man. Sebastian never was a man. Which is why the former counts as a swordsman while the latter is as much a swordsman as idk, Crimson Moon is, if he wields his Knight Arm. No, he cannot. A+ agility = more than 50 times faster than the top speed of a normal human's movements. Not even Saber could escape from it, even when her stats got inflated at the end of UBW. That's being very very close-minded. So if you aren't a human or was a human, you can't be a swordsman? Yes, he can. 50 times faster is nothing. Sebastian can easily top that. As you said, he's a demon. Hence human parameters are nothing to him. Please, Cherry. Swordsman. That implies the person is a male human. If you want to describe a non-human using a sword, then just call him/her a sword user. No, he cannot. And I'll leave it at that, since we aren't coming to an agreement in any way. I give up. You're insufferable like this. Why are you using such a literal reading of a term when the term is used in the wider sense? Sebastian is a demon, but he uses swords. Hence, he is a swordsman. Simple as that. No, that's not how it works. As according to the Oxford English Dictionary, used widely in defining words in both normal and legal circumstances, a swordsman is "a man who fights with a sword". Oxford English dictionary. (2014) Vol. 2. 8th ed. Oxford: Oxford University Press. Therefore, Sebastian, a demon, cannot be a swordsman. Two can play the dictionary game, Baita. As according to the Cambridge English Dictionary, used widely in defining words in both normal and legal circumstances, a swordsman is "a person skilled in fighting with a sword". Cambridge English Dictionary. (2015) Cambridge University Press. Accessed: December 15, 2015 And the definition of a person is simple. So Sebastian is a swordsman. |
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