| The religion of Pedos has sided with the religion of peace! http://nypost.com/2015/01/15/you-cant-insult-the-faith-of-others-pope-on-charlie-hebdo/ article said: “You can’t provoke, you can’t insult the faith of others, you can’t make fun of faith,” ^lol, but raping little boys is a ok! |
| I agree with the Pope , ridiculing someone's faith can lead to a knee jerk reaction. Although resorting to murder over something like that is obviously ludicrous. Religion just like nationality, race etc. is a form of identification so insulting, ridiculing, vehemently attacking someone's faith could be a personal attack for some people. Freedom of speech and freedom of expression should always be upheld but they can be abused. For example holding rallies to promote violence against a certain group or for the sole purpose of spitting vitriol to promote hate against a specific group. |
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| Using more words he said "if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say it." What's wrong with that? |
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DrGeroCreation said: For example holding rallies to promote violence against a certain group or for the sole purpose of spitting vitriol to promote hate against a specific group. Here in the U.S....the ACLU once famously defended a Neo-Nazi group's right to march into a predominantly Jewish neighborhood. And guess what....they WON! Because, in the end....the right to speech is greater than your hurt feelings. The second we say that X is not allowed to say this or that is when the dominoes begin to fall one by one. Imagine a government that says you can not use speech against religion to mock and ridicule, why can't they later say you can't use speech against the government as well? Freedom of Speech is non-negotiable as long as you don't infringe the rights of others....and unfortunately for sensitive people, hurt feelings are not an infringement of rights....at least not in America or the majority of the first world. |
--ALEX--Jan 17, 2015 11:59 PM
| I can't insult religion but dem bishop quarterbacks can say I'm going to hell for not believing in their sky daddy? Mommy, I need an adult |
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VitaminCaim said: You need Jesus.Mommy, I need an adult |
| Kenjataimu mode status: 恒久 |
| Well then , tell the Pope to stop cursing Satan. There are people who follow Satan. Satanism is a religion too, think of that before you think of saving your own ass. |
[i]"Yet each man kills the thing he loves, [/i]By each let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!'' ~Oscar |
| Honestly everyone loves making the Catholic church look bad with all the scandals its been through, now I really wouldn't be suprised if the media twisted around the Pope's words to make him look like a dick cause thats what they do, for example maybe the Pope merely meant that if you insult people expect retaliation regardless of whether ita right or wrong, if you piss people off such as insulting their mother although turning the other cheek is ideal its not what most people will do when something they care about is mocked. I expect we'll get a clearer idea when some non biased newspapers report it. |
TheConquererJan 18, 2015 2:29 AM
| I've been here way too long... |
| Anyways, let's see what Jesus said about people like Me that constantly mocks christianity! "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you" -Matthew 5:44 ^This Jesus guy is even more tolerant than the fucking pope! Seriously, I sometimes do feel a little bad for constantly bashing christianity the way I do....if only cuz I genuinely do like Jesus, but I can't stand his annoying fan club and his Daddy is by far the worst dictator in all of fiction. |
| Sooooo, free speech? Oh wait. |
| LOL, people love giving the Catholics crap but they're surprisingly progressive on certain issues like those regarding science. Catholics don't believe that you should take the Bible literally like those New Age Creationists. And besides, he isn't exactly wrong. You do have a right to free speech but come on, don't be stupid. What are you going to get by going up to a Muslim and saying you hate his religion or you insult Christians who wish you a Merry Christmas? Nothing. In fact, you're gonna be worse off if you admit openly that you're an atheist even AMONG other atheists because really, no one wants to trust an asshole. You can be openly atheist or critical of religion online due to anonymity. No one knows who you are, so feel free to speak your mind or shit out of your ass. But when you're among people in real life, best to be respectful even if you don't approve of their religion. |
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JustALEX said: Here in the U.S....the ACLU once famously defended a Neo-Nazi group's right to march into a predominantly Jewish neighborhood. And guess what....they WON! Because, in the end....the right to speech is greater than your hurt feelings. The second we say that X is not allowed to say this or that is when the dominoes begin to fall one by one. Imagine a government that says you can not use speech against religion to mock and ridicule, why can't they later say you can't use speech against the government as well? Freedom of Speech is non-negotiable as long as you don't infringe the rights of others....and unfortunately for sensitive people, hurt feelings are not an infringement of rights....at least not in America or the majority of the first world. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech or expression of religion. It's a bunch of idiots poking at each other under the guise of freedom of expression until the other snaps. If you keep dicking around with bears then it's no fucking surprise you'd get maw to death. It sucks that you died, but if perhaps you had some bloody foresight you'd stop provoking the bear. Freedom of speech doesn't meant exempt from consequences. It especially doesn't mean you can say whatever dumb shit drags itself into your head. This isn't the first time that publication had an attack on them so clearly they thought themselves immortal. The murderous terrorist went to similar extremes to assassinate those office workers as the million or so people marching in the streets in their memory; because a bunch of comic writers that never even wanted to start a polite and constructive discussion are for some reason held to a higher regard then the hundreds of innocent children murdered just weeks before. Go figure. |
| i dont really care what others believe, i have my own beliefs |
| The Pope can go fuck himself. |
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| ROFL, people i present you, the future! |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
| Isn't it more like he said "You can't insult someone's belief's and not expect negative repercussions?" It's not like he's defending the Paris attack either, he called it an aberration. But even if he isn't, it's not surprising, it's not like the Pope is going to say you can feel free to say whatever about religion and defend free speech or something. I mean....it's the Pope. |
| Ironically people are focusing on one specific quote and not the purpouse of said quote which is to try and get people to stop being raging bigots against others. I mean christ are people not even reading any of the other quotes he was saying cause the guy is actually for once holding the church responsible for shit “Let’s consider our own history. How many wars of religion have we had? Even we were sinners, but you can’t kill in the name of God. That is an aberration.” “Everyone has not only the freedom and the right but the obligation to say what he thinks for the common good … we have the right to have this freedom openly without offending,” he said. people are fucking morons if they get mad what this dude is saying here. Hes trying to qualm heavy bigotry and animosity between catholics and islamics in paris cause maybe, trying to stop people from killing eachother is a good idea. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| So, care to explain me, why he it's wrong? |
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Insertanamehere said: Isn't it more like he said "You can't insult someone's belief's and not expect negative repercussions?" It's not like he's defending the Paris attack either, he called it an aberration. But it's not surprising, it's not like the Pope is going to say you can feel free to insult religion and defend free speech or something. Death, imprisonment, and threats are unacceptable negative repercussions of drawing an offensive caricature, the punishment must fit the crime in other words they needed to draw the cartoonists or maybe portray France in a bad light in art to retaliate for their offense at Mohammad being drawn. |
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Praland said: because he treated muslims like equal human beings and pushed for peace between them and others. How sickening. Its almost like he thinks we shouldnt generalize entire groups of people based off of sickening actions of a small group of forgone individuals, what a freaking idiot right?So, care to explain me, why he it's wrong? |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| No need to insult religions, it insults itself. <--lol |
 Behold of my awesomeness~ controversial and/or sensitive topics likely devolve into the same repetitive, derogatory, abusive, and harassing comments can no longer be posted. But my feels. |
JizzyHitler said: Praland said: because he treated muslims like equal human beings and pushed for peace between them and others. How sickening. Its almost like he thinks we shouldnt generalize entire groups of people based off of sickening actions of a small group of forgone individuals, what a freaking idiot right?So, care to explain me, why he it's wrong? Oh i see, thanks, now i understand. |
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| The pope also doesn't care if Jesus is made fun of and sunken in piss but now somehow insulting a religion is a problem. Huh. |
| So....he's telling people not to be arseholes? What a world we live in... |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| the pope can suck my dick |
| The Pope is only keeping it real. Also in Russia they made it illegal for media to show Muhammad's illustrations published by Charlie Hebdo. Salute to Putin. |
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| ''Insult all them atheists, but not them religious ppl cuz we BELIEEEEVE!'' |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| depends if the religion is doing things worth insulting to be fair you know like letting priests touch small children |
| SWFC We're all Wednesday arent we? |
| As a Catholic, this Pope is an idiot. Also, per capita, more teachers rape children than priests. |
| Let's go bowling. |
StopDropAndBowl said: He's been the most progressive Pope the catholic church has had in a long time.As a Catholic, this Pope is an idiot. Also, per capita, more teachers rape children than priests. |
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StopDropAndBowl said: As a Catholic, this Pope is an idiot. You only dislike him cuz he's progressive in other issues.....your conservative head can't take it... StopDropAndBowl said: Also, per capita, more teachers rape children than priests. Teachers are NOT in the business of being moral guides which you can confide in... Teachers are NOT supposed messengers of GOD who would supposedly absolutely abhor pedophilia... Furthermore, when we have heard of teachers raping children, they are INSTANTLY FIRED....handed over to the state to receive proper punishment. When priest have been caught raping children, they have been PROTECTED by the Church, they are not even fired from their positions, and in various cases they have even avoided justice. |
JustALEX said: StopDropAndBowl said: As a Catholic, this Pope is an idiot. You only dislike him cuz he's progressive in other issues.....your conservative head can't take it... Why is your progressive mind right and his conservative head wrong? |
JizzyHitler said: Hes trying to qualm heavy bigotry and animosity between catholics and islamics in paris cause maybe, trying to stop people from killing eachother is a good idea. And he thinks telling people to STOP insulting religions is the best way? Giving into the demands of terrorists? That's the solution? Yes, let's all live in a PC world where we're all nice to each other and anyone that insults someone else instantly deserves whatever punishment they get.....does this make sense? In the example I gave, I showed how non-bigots (the ACLU) protected the rights of Bigots (Neo-Nazis) to hold a march where they would spew all type of hate speech towards a predominantly Jewish neighborhood.... Check out the Westboro Baptist Church....they go all around the U.S doing nothing more than hating on absolutely everyone. And yet we allow this, no one stops them....because their freedom of speech is indeed more important than our hurt feelings. |
JonyJC said: JustALEX said: You only dislike him cuz he's progressive in other issues.....your conservative head can't take it... Why is your progressive mind right and his conservative head wrong? It's not. Also, I don't consider myself a "Progressive" anymore... I've noticed that there are plenty of issues that I don't agree with the label. |
ibearclaw said: Using more words he said "if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say it." What's wrong with that? You shouldn't live your life by worrying about if what you say offends people all the time. At times it's irrelevant how people feel; it's not how you feel in the first place. If you want to criticize, insult, disgrace a religion then by fuck do it. You have every right to |
| ^ You're missing the point that the Pope is trying to make, he wants peace and harmony, what you said is irrelevant to the message he delivered. |
JustALEX said: Well that's America not the world. I guess blackface should become mainstream again and racist caricatures of East Asians and Arabs as well since you know freedom of expression and all that. I don't see how you can't grasp that freedom of speech,expression could go overboard.DrGeroCreation said: For example holding rallies to promote violence against a certain group or for the sole purpose of spitting vitriol to promote hate against a specific group. Here in the U.S....the ACLU once famously defended a Neo-Nazi group's right to march into a predominantly Jewish neighborhood. And guess what....they WON! Because, in the end....the right to speech is greater than your hurt feelings. The second we say that X is not allowed to say this or that is when the dominoes begin to fall one by one. Imagine a government that says you can not use speech against religion to mock and ridicule, why can't they later say you can't use speech against the government as well? Freedom of Speech is non-negotiable as long as you don't infringe the rights of others....and unfortunately for sensitive people, hurt feelings are not an infringement of rights....at least not in America or the majority of the first world. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Well that's America not the world. I guess blackface should become mainstream again and racist caricatures of East Asians and Arabs as well since you know freedom of expression and all that. I don't see how you can't grasp that freedom of speech,expression could go overboard. Hate speech is not something we accept, it's something we tolerate. And people still do that....the KKK still exists, they're still allowed to do what they want as long as they don't actually infringe on anyone's rights. BTW, no one....absolutely NO ONE cared about Mohammed drawings until Muslims MADE IT INTO AN ISSUE. After that, everyone went nuts with making all types of drawings. Because people don't like being told "you can't do this or that"....especially if "this or that" is something that is perfectly legal. |
| I thought the new Pope was a reformer, he's just a pussy bending over everywhere hoping to prop up his faith. |
RedArmyShogun said: I thought the new Pope was a reformer, he's just a pussy bending over everywhere hoping to prop up his faith. The Pope is useless and it's made worse by him bowing down to traitors and terrorists. Bowing down to these people makes them stronger. |
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JustALEX said: You only dislike him cuz he's progressive in other issues.....your conservative head can't take it... I'm not gonna lie, that's mostly it. I like my Church conservative and traditional. I understand the idea of outreach and all that jazz, but I'd rather have a Catholic Church that speaks hard truths than one that everyone likes. JustALEX said: Teachers are NOT in the business of being moral guides which you can confide in... Teachers are NOT supposed messengers of GOD who would supposedly absolutely abhor pedophilia... Furthermore, when we have heard of teachers raping children, they are INSTANTLY FIRED....handed over to the state to receive proper punishment. When priest have been caught raping children, they have been PROTECTED by the Church, they are not even fired from their positions, and in various cases they have even avoided justice. Well, I would say that most people consider teachers to be moral guides and that a teacher molesting a child is just as much a betrayal of societal trust as a priest doing it. And there are plenty of cases when teachers get away with long-term abuse and only get punished by it when the media picks up the story, years later, often with fellow teachers and admins running interference so the molester doesn't get caught. I will say that the Church has been incredibly dishonest, and oftentimes downright evil, in the way they've faced the issue, but I still think it's unfair to call it the "religion of pedos". |
| Let's go bowling. |
JizzyHitler said: people are fucking morons if they get mad what this dude is saying here. Hes trying to qualm heavy bigotry and animosity between catholics and islamics in paris cause maybe, trying to stop people from killing eachother is a good idea. Actually his using that as an excuse to be political. He supposedly is trying to calm things down BUT says it like that because it also in his interested for religion not to be questioned or being made fun off for what it says since he is also a leader of a religion while at the same time making sure the islam dudes aren't in war with his church making his work harder. |
StopDropAndBowl said: As far as Catholicism is concerned we aren't given too many 'hard truths' from the get-go. Pope Francis really has been moving our religion in the right direction when it comes to social issues present in today's world.JustALEX said: You only dislike him cuz he's progressive in other issues.....your conservative head can't take it... I'm not gonna lie, that's mostly it. I like my Church conservative and traditional. I understand the idea of outreach and all that jazz, but I'd rather have a Catholic Church that speaks hard truths than one that everyone likes. |
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Khaosman said: I liked it when the Pope said that the existence of aliens might be possible.LOL, people love giving the Catholics crap but they're surprisingly progressive on certain issues like those regarding science. Khaosman said: They certainly do take it literally when looking for advice on how to view contemporary evils such as condoms.Catholics don't believe that you should take the Bible literally like those New Age Creationists. |
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Hoppy said: Indeed, the Pope can go fuck himself. If his reaction to words is to commit violence, then he's probably a fucking retard. RedArmyShogun said: I thought the new Pope was a reformer, he's just a pussy bending over everywhere hoping to prop up his faith. The Pope is useless and it's made worse by him bowing down to traitors and terrorists. Bowing down to these people makes them stronger. Words or talking as an action cannot kill. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| All atheist who don't respect and bash religion can go fuck themselves. - freedom of fucking speech bitches. Some leaders of the church rapes children and because of that the whole religion is a religion of pedos? fuck you! some muslims are terrorist and because of that muslims = terrorists? fuck you! oh! what? you people hate the church because of the crusades hundreds of fucking years ago? FUCK YOU! like the church now has got anything to do with that. The message was simple: "Respect" but no.. you people love to complicate things. No matter people will always do their best to find the negativity of something that was meant to be positive. also, I don't see any of them around here but I'll just say it just so I won't sound biased: All christians who think they're are so great because they go to church every sunday but treat others like shit because they don't believe in the same God, fuck you! All muslims who kill and spread violence in the name of Islam, fuck you! |
PrimeXJan 19, 2015 3:56 AM
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PrimeX said: All atheist who don't respect and bash religion can go fuck themselves. - freedom of fucking speech bitches. There are plenty of non-atheists who already bash and don't respect religion.....it's really not that hard when you see all the crazy stuff they say. PrimeX said: Some leaders of the church rapes children and because of that the whole religion is a religion of pedos? fuck you! It's not even about the fact that "some" leaders rape kids...it's the fact that the Church COVERS UP these crimes and help the priests get away without any justice being met. Seriously, there have been plenty of documentaries about this, it's not exactly a secret. PrimeX said: The message was simple: "Respect" but no.. Why should religions like Christianity and Islam garner any respect from non-believers? Seriously, stop and think about it for a second. Even the most moderate of Christian and Muslim will tell you what is the punishment for non-belief...it's hell. That's what their religion preaches. A literal eternity of torture just for not believing.....why should I or any non-believer respect that? |
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