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Apr 3, 2014 5:06 PM
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I just wanna know what is considered good art cause the ratings i give seem to contradict those on reviews etc.

Character designs?
Background?
realistic?
movements?
brightness?

Why are some animes with outmoded art animation 1980-2005 given a 7-9/10 while those aired in 2014 have significantly lower art ratings, when they imo have more appealing characters better cg.

I'm asking which one of the 5(or others i haven't mentioned) factors is the most significant for a good art rating, not my preferences.

btw some of you guys say that art is the least important factor when judging an anime, and doing so is being superficial, in a typical romance anime, i don't think anyone would feel passion/affection to a hideous poorly drawn *********. one at least need some decent looks to be attractive(majority), regardless of how good one is one the inside.
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Art is subjective, there is no overall good...it all boils down to personal preference.
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Agreed, Aku no Hana's art is an example of a modern day Mona Lisa.

Although modern art is often criticized for not being individualized enough and having cookie cutter character designs (gem eyes, dot nose, cute "c" mouth, etc).
Apr 3, 2014 5:18 PM
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A lot of people wouldn't rate animation based on standards that didn't exist during the time of its production. And I have to agree to a large extent that it would be stupid to criticize a 90s series for using cel-based animation instead of digital when the standard wasn't even there back then to do it that way in the first place.
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Apr 3, 2014 5:20 PM
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What the watcher thinks is good.
Apr 3, 2014 5:22 PM
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In theory, good art is something that breaks the mold, does something none that have come before it have done. I'd say Vagabond or JoJo's Bizarre Adventure are great examples of this if we're talking about Manga.

However, in practice, due to the subjectivity of the term "good" and the general appeal of the public, good art is typically categorized by flashy animation sequences and colors, pencil thin necks and proportions aswell as high resolution.
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Ratohnhaketon said:
Agreed, Aku no Hana's art is an example of a modern day Mona Lisa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJz2WB3dF10
Apr 3, 2014 5:23 PM
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When it's appealing to the eyes and mind.
Apr 3, 2014 5:25 PM
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When it's not Aku no Hana's anime art, it's anti-2D as it's pig disgusting. Eiken's art is terrible as well.


Apr 3, 2014 5:33 PM

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MEanimaniac1 said:
Art is subjective, there is no overall good...it all boils down to personal preference.

Pretty much anything that makes me say "whoa"
Apr 3, 2014 5:34 PM

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Whatever fits the story that is being told. Character designs and backgrounds being memorable are important.
Realism doesn't even factor in.
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MEanimaniac1 said:
Art is subjective, there is no overall good


Just because people disagree doesn't mean it's subjective, it means some people are right and some are wrong
Apr 3, 2014 5:43 PM

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For me it's realistic looking character designs: Perfect Blue http://youtu.be/V0Rj7nn0ZVs and bright colorful backgrounds : Tatami Galaxy
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Apr 3, 2014 5:57 PM

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YorozuyaGinSan said:
In theory, good art is something that breaks the mold, does something none that have come before it have done. I'd say Vagabond or JoJo's Bizarre Adventure are great examples of this if we're talking about Manga.

However, in practice, due to the subjectivity of the term "good" and the general appeal of the public, good art is typically categorized by flashy animation sequences and colors, pencil thin necks and proportions aswell as high resolution.


Good art for anime in terms of breaking the mold would be Kaiba, Kuuchuu-Buranko, and Belladonna of sadness.
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here is a reference

original trigun: bad art

trigun badlands rumble movie: great art
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Personally, I find 5 Centimeters Per Second's art to be fantastic.
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supreme-kser said:
I just wanna know what is considered good art cause the ratings i give seem to contradict those on reviews etc.

Character designs?
Background?
realistic?
movements?
brightness?

Why are some animes with outmoded art animation 1980-2005 given a 7-9/10 while those aired in 2014 have significantly lower art ratings, when they imo have more appealing characters better cg.
i think it's cute when someone creates an art discussion and one of the first things mentioned is 'realism.' who exactly propagated the myth that something must be trying to be realistic to be good art (or even art at all)?
Apr 3, 2014 6:12 PM

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Heredity said:
supreme-kser said:
I just wanna know what is considered good art cause the ratings i give seem to contradict those on reviews etc.

Character designs?
Background?
realistic?
movements?
brightness?

Why are some animes with outmoded art animation 1980-2005 given a 7-9/10 while those aired in 2014 have significantly lower art ratings, when they imo have more appealing characters better cg.
i think it's cute when someone creates an art discussion and one of the first things mentioned is 'realism.' who exactly propagated the myth that something must be trying to be realistic to be good art (or even art at all)?


mimetic theory of art, it's not a very good theory
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Heredity said:
supreme-kser said:
I just wanna know what is considered good art cause the ratings i give seem to contradict those on reviews etc.

Character designs?
Background?
realistic?
movements?
brightness?

Why are some animes with outmoded art animation 1980-2005 given a 7-9/10 while those aired in 2014 have significantly lower art ratings, when they imo have more appealing characters better cg.
i think it's cute when someone creates an art discussion and one of the first things mentioned is 'realism.' who exactly propagated the myth that something must be trying to be realistic to be good art (or even art at all)?


If you want realism then why watch cartoons lol? Seriously one has to consider the objective of the anime before you can truly judge the art. That said its generally a plus IMO if the artbstands out. Being detailed is good but being simple and cartoons can work to an advantage.
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Realistic arts can be found in BG. Even moeblobs anime like Super Sonico or crazy ones like Manyuu Hikenchou have some pretty good BG arts. Thanks to some fans dedicated in screen-capping them.
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BlackSabotage said:
Heredity said:
supreme-kser said:
I just wanna know what is considered good art cause the ratings i give seem to contradict those on reviews etc.

Character designs?
Background?
realistic?
movements?
brightness?

Why are some animes with outmoded art animation 1980-2005 given a 7-9/10 while those aired in 2014 have significantly lower art ratings, when they imo have more appealing characters better cg.
i think it's cute when someone creates an art discussion and one of the first things mentioned is 'realism.' who exactly propagated the myth that something must be trying to be realistic to be good art (or even art at all)?


If you want realism then why watch cartoons lol? Seriously one has to consider the objective of the anime before you can truly judge the art. That said its generally a plus IMO if the artbstands out. Being detailed is good but being simple and cartoons can work to an advantage.
then we're all in agreeance that aku no hana was excellent? yes, ok. done and done.

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Heredity said:
BlackSabotage said:
Heredity said:
supreme-kser said:
I just wanna know what is considered good art cause the ratings i give seem to contradict those on reviews etc.

Character designs?
Background?
realistic?
movements?
brightness?

Why are some animes with outmoded art animation 1980-2005 given a 7-9/10 while those aired in 2014 have significantly lower art ratings, when they imo have more appealing characters better cg.
i think it's cute when someone creates an art discussion and one of the first things mentioned is 'realism.' who exactly propagated the myth that something must be trying to be realistic to be good art (or even art at all)?


If you want realism then why watch cartoons lol? Seriously one has to consider the objective of the anime before you can truly judge the art. That said its generally a plus IMO if the artbstands out. Being detailed is good but being simple and cartoons can work to an advantage.
then we're all in agreeance that aku no hana was excellent? yes, ok. done and done.



What annoys me is the amount of people who as some rotoscoping generally looks that bad.
Apr 3, 2014 7:25 PM
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BlackSabotage said:
What annoys me is the amount of people who as some rotoscoping generally looks that bad.
i'd just tell people that think such a thing to go and watch heavy metal.
Apr 3, 2014 7:28 PM

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When it comes to visual novels im 100 percent behind calling anything that manages to be 720p good art.
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Heredity said:
BlackSabotage said:
What annoys me is the amount of people who as some rotoscoping generally looks that bad.
i'd just tell people that think such a thing to go and watch heavy metal.


I was thinking American pop but that ones good too.
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BlackSabotage said:
YorozuyaGinSan said:
In theory, good art is something that breaks the mold, does something none that have come before it have done. I'd say Vagabond or JoJo's Bizarre Adventure are great examples of this if we're talking about Manga.

However, in practice, due to the subjectivity of the term "good" and the general appeal of the public, good art is typically categorized by flashy animation sequences and colors, pencil thin necks and proportions aswell as high resolution.


Good art for anime in terms of breaking the mold would be Kaiba, Kuuchuu-Buranko, and Belladonna of sadness.
Add Gankutsuou to that list! I actually just recommended someone Kuuchu Buranko today, completely agree.
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As long as the art is not as shitty as logh, then it's fine.
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As long as the art is not as shitty as logh, then it's fine.
Jest, you surely?
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YorozuyaGinSan said:
Ghost001 said:
As long as the art is not as shitty as logh, then it's fine.
Jest, you surely?


Oh, I forgot. Jojo also sucks as well. Thnx for the reminder.
If I should believe in God. I should also believe in the tooth fairy. The bible is man made. It was Made by bearded men to try and control people with their beliefs. Off topic. No anime can even come close to Nana. :P

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Ghost001 said:
YorozuyaGinSan said:
Ghost001 said:
As long as the art is not as shitty as logh, then it's fine.
Jest, you surely?


Oh, I forgot. Jojo also sucks as well. Thnx for the reminder.
You're welcome, but is that all you wanted to say?
I mean, you can't tell me the only reason you posted in this topic was to slander Legend of the Galactic Heroes.
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YorozuyaGinSan said:
Ghost001 said:
YorozuyaGinSan said:
Ghost001 said:
As long as the art is not as shitty as logh, then it's fine.
Jest, you surely?


Oh, I forgot. Jojo also sucks as well. Thnx for the reminder.
You're welcome, but is that all you wanted to say?
I mean, you can't tell me the only reason you posted in this topic was to slander Legend of the Galactic Heroes.


Yep, that's the worst anime quality/art quality I could think of.
If I should believe in God. I should also believe in the tooth fairy. The bible is man made. It was Made by bearded men to try and control people with their beliefs. Off topic. No anime can even come close to Nana. :P

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Whatever, random person X likes. There is no concrete definition.

Personally when I think "art" in regards to anime, I think nice scenery, detailed backgrounds and characters, and a large variety of colors that compliment the type of show it is.
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Ghost001 said:
YorozuyaGinSan said:
Ghost001 said:
YorozuyaGinSan said:
Ghost001 said:
As long as the art is not as shitty as logh, then it's fine.
Jest, you surely?


Oh, I forgot. Jojo also sucks as well. Thnx for the reminder.
You're welcome, but is that all you wanted to say?
I mean, you can't tell me the only reason you posted in this topic was to slander Legend of the Galactic Heroes.


Yep, that's the worst anime quality/art quality I could think of.
Really? Well, I guess to each his own. Art has never been Legend of the Galactic Heroes' strongsuit.

But do you mean to tell me it's even worse than the art of Hanoka or Skelter Heaven? Not even Mars of Destruction?
Well, ok then.
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YorozuyaGinSan said:
Ghost001 said:
YorozuyaGinSan said:
Ghost001 said:
YorozuyaGinSan said:
Ghost001 said:
As long as the art is not as shitty as logh, then it's fine.
Jest, you surely?


Oh, I forgot. Jojo also sucks as well. Thnx for the reminder.
You're welcome, but is that all you wanted to say?
I mean, you can't tell me the only reason you posted in this topic was to slander Legend of the Galactic Heroes.


Yep, that's the worst anime quality/art quality I could think of.
Really? Well, I guess to each his own. Art has never been Legend of the Galactic Heroes' strongsuit.

But do you mean to tell me it's even worse than the art of Hanoka or Skelter Heaven? Not even Mars of Destruction?
Well, ok then.


I don't know, since I haven't watch those as of yet. But of all the anime I have watch up to date, logh has the worst art style quality. I only watch 3 minutes of the series and had to stop. That's why it's not on my dropped list, because I haven't even watched 1 full episode of that series yet. Waiting on the remake version. They say it's like code geass, I wasn't really fun of that series. So it probably wont be that good any ways...
If I should believe in God. I should also believe in the tooth fairy. The bible is man made. It was Made by bearded men to try and control people with their beliefs. Off topic. No anime can even come close to Nana. :P

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Art varies heavily according to each person's tastes. What's appealing to me may be appalling to another person.

Let your soul guide your feelings when it comes to art
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Bad art is art that is not good.

Good art is art that is not only not bad, but is also good.
Apr 3, 2014 9:49 PM

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Garden of Words. That's good art/animation, for me anyways.
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Taking a different direction in art is a good thing MOST of the time. Like with Last Exile sober and grounded art style, or Needless' over the top character designs and animation(that OP gets me everytime lol)
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Art I like.
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You tell me.
This topic has not been locked and is still available for discussion.
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gamer2710 said:
You tell me.
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Art I like.
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Why are some animes with outmoded art animation 1980-2005 given a 7-9/10 while those aired in 2014 have significantly lower art ratings, when they imo have more appealing characters better cg.

Because art/animation aren't everything? I'm honestly enjoying a 1993 soccer anime over a 2003 soccer anime even if the art qualities are completely different. It's how you present the story, characters and world.
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YorozuyaGinSan said:
Ghost001 said:
YorozuyaGinSan said:
Ghost001 said:
YorozuyaGinSan said:
Ghost001 said:
As long as the art is not as shitty as logh, then it's fine.
Jest, you surely?


Oh, I forgot. Jojo also sucks as well. Thnx for the reminder.
You're welcome, but is that all you wanted to say?
I mean, you can't tell me the only reason you posted in this topic was to slander Legend of the Galactic Heroes.


Yep, that's the worst anime quality/art quality I could think of.
Really? Well, I guess to each his own. Art has never been Legend of the Galactic Heroes' strongsuit.

But do you mean to tell me it's even worse than the art of Hanoka or Skelter Heaven? Not even Mars of Destruction?
Well, ok then.


Actually, I think the art of LoGH is good. What's bad is the animation, and that's understandable since the anime is very old. Anyway, lol at this Ghost001.
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Rashkolnikov said:
YorozuyaGinSan said:
Ghost001 said:
YorozuyaGinSan said:
Ghost001 said:
YorozuyaGinSan said:
Ghost001 said:
As long as the art is not as shitty as logh, then it's fine.
Jest, you surely?


Oh, I forgot. Jojo also sucks as well. Thnx for the reminder.
You're welcome, but is that all you wanted to say?
I mean, you can't tell me the only reason you posted in this topic was to slander Legend of the Galactic Heroes.


Yep, that's the worst anime quality/art quality I could think of.
Really? Well, I guess to each his own. Art has never been Legend of the Galactic Heroes' strongsuit.

But do you mean to tell me it's even worse than the art of Hanoka or Skelter Heaven? Not even Mars of Destruction?
Well, ok then.


Actually, I think the art of LoGH is good. What's bad is the animation, and that's understandable since the anime is very old. Anyway, lol at this Ghost001.


Yea, lol at some ones opinion. I know logh art sucks!! Take that snake!!
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IntroverTurtle said:
gamer2710 said:
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IntroverTurtle said:
Art I like.
One Piece art.
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>Character designs?
you like the designs + memorable/iconic character designs = good art

>Background?
you like the setting + high budget backgrounds with a lot of work put into them = good art

>realistic?
realism and good art are not related, but it might be to some people

>movements?
good animation = good art

>brightness?
brightness and good art are not related, but it might be to some people


>Why are some animes with outmoded art animation 1980-2005 given a 7-9/10 while those aired in 2014 have significantly lower art ratings, when they imo have more appealing characters better cg.
anime from 1980-2005 was targeted to 1980-2005 audience; anime from 2014 is targeted to 2014 audience;
people who watched the 1980-2005 anime when they were still recent got the best experience out of those anime; in 10 years you will be the same probably
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Art is the last thing I think of during judging the quality of anime. Discarding an anime because of 'bad' art is like judging a book by its cover.
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What you consider good art may be considered bad art by anyone else. It's subjective. I personally don't really have a fixed 'good' art.
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