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Feb 2, 2014 4:44 PM
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I´ve seen plenty of Anime till today and whenever I see a filler arc starting it makes me wanna puke.

Is it because they are rushed or does the mangaka himself even write them?
I know the reason why filler episodes exist but why do they have to be all that bad?
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Feb 2, 2014 4:51 PM
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Mangaka is not responsible for fillers.
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Feb 2, 2014 4:53 PM
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because they are just episodes that are made while they wait for the manga artist to make more chapters
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Feb 2, 2014 4:54 PM
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Because the guys at the studio suck at writing stories.
Feb 2, 2014 4:55 PM
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Fillers aren't always bad, I usually enjoy them.
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Wait till they're over.
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I almost gave up Bleach because of this shit. The 2 Bount arc seasons are just too fucking unbearable, but the opening made up for it. "Tonight Tonight Tonight" is a good song.
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Because nothing is ever good enough for manga purists and their standards.

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Feb 2, 2014 5:01 PM
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I like filler episodes, they a nice chance to flesh out the characters a bit without needing to really impact the plot.
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Watch anime without fillers and/or skip the fillers then :^) Problem solved
There was this guy some time ago advertising this site
http://www.fillerguide.com/
might be useful

Filler episodes are bad because they are rushed, and with litle input from the original author i think
Feb 2, 2014 5:02 PM

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Sounds like a personal problem.
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Only show w/ fillers I liked at all was Reborn, just because they worked somewhat in the storyline (had continuity). Others I've seen just cut into the middle, really kind of jarring. They were sub-par in writing too.



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Fillers can actually be good by hyping up the main story of an anime if done right. Say in a shounen anime, the current arc is finally at an end and the main protagonist is about to fight the villain, a couple filler episodes can intensify the battle because it makes the viewers crave for it more by adding the wait time.
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Only show w/ fillers I liked at all was Reborn, just because they worked somewhat in the storyline (had continuity). Others I've seen just cut into the middle, really kind of jarring. They were sub-par in writing too.
I thought they were some of the worst, so repetitve.(and at least for the two filler arcs, I believe the mangaka made them)

Feb 2, 2014 5:13 PM

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Bleach's were godawful
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Fillers aren't always bad.
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They don't have to....but they usually do.

Main reason is most studios don't try to hard at filler for fear of screwing up the shows consistency or contradicting something the writer was going to do later. Thus filler is usually "low impact" where nothing much of importance to the actual storyline happens.
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They don't have to....but they usually do.

Main reason is most studios don't try to hard at filler for fear of screwing up the shows consistency or contradicting something the writer was going to do later. Thus filler is usually "low impact" where nothing much of importance to the actual storyline happens.


I hate the filler stories where they try to add some villain that has discovered a way to conquer/destroy the world, when you know in reality the true antagonists would tear them a new one 24/7 and would not sit idly as these fillerfags do as they please.
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There's usually 1 good filler for every 30 stupid ones.

An example of a good one would be Naruto ep. 102 (Kakashi's Mask). That episode is freaking legendary, and it was funny as hell.
Feb 2, 2014 6:39 PM

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I'm lucky I guess. I don't think I've ever seen anything that had fillers.
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it sucks because no matter how long it is it has no impact in the main story
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it sucks because no matter how long it is it has no impact in the main story

That sounds about right. It's very, very, very hard to make something interesting if we know it's all inconsequential.
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Because you people automatically assume the original is the best, that any differences between the adaptation and the original (filler included) are automatically shite.
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They suck because most of the time, a filler episode/arc isn't written by the author of the manga, but instead some random screenwriter you might not know.

Is it because they are rushed or does the mangaka himself even write them?

If something is rushed, it doesn't necessarily make it bad. I know in Dragon Ball Z, Akira Toriyama wrote in Gregory into the anime, despite not being in the manga. Filler episodes can also be made by making a plot revolve around a chapter cover the mangaka made. For example, a chapter cover for the Dragon Ball manga showed Goku driving, and a filler episode was made in the anime showing Goku and Piccolo taking driving lessons/tests.

I know the reason why filler episodes exist but why do they have to be all that bad?

Because the screenwriter for the filler episodes isn't the creator of the manga, therefore isn't his/her work. The screenwriter has to think of an original plot of someone else's work. This makes filler episodes inferior to canon episodes.
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They suck because they interrupt the original story to show crap side stories.
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Some fillers are good but those are hard to find.
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Good question.
If I were to guess its because their writers are crap if the show is based off many a but even then that seems unlikely. An example of perfect "fillers" would be mushishi and gits SAC, but they are both episodical shows which are pretty much entirely comprised of "fillers". When I say filler I mean an episode that in no way contributes to the direction of the plot, something completely off topic.
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Not all are bad. I've seen some absolutely fantastic fillers here and there.

But yeah, most are not that good. It guess it comes down to the writers of those respective anime just not being as good as the original creator.
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Echoing MrAM's argument, while there are some bad filler episodes (I particularly hated the Temacu episode of the Johto arc of Pokemon. God, that was a pain to sit through!), there are some very very good ones (Popolocrois Monogatari 1998 comes to mind). I particularly don't mind filler so much, just as long as it's not annoyed, and I only found a few filler episodes of some series that really made me cringe.
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They don't, you just don't like them.
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Because they do, deal with it.
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They don't, you just don't like them.

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Because your taste.

Also guys stop with the "why my opinion is this" threads please.
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its not made by the mangaka!
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Mangaka writing the filler doesn't mean much. Filler are usually used for long running series in which the canon may or may not be as bad as the filler itself.
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I don't mind fillers honestly. Then again, the shows where they seem to catch the more ire from anime aren't shows that I watch. I could deal with them in DBZ though, mostly because of the humor involved.
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Fillers are fine as long as they're interesting or provide character development.

Fillers are bad when the studio isn't competent enough to make a coherent story arc.

What pisses me off the most is when a half-season anime has time to put in three fillers. Then we have a filler-filled anime with a rushed plot. Seriously, you couldn't just pad it out a little?
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lionheart04 said:
it sucks because no matter how long it is it has no impact in the main story


This. Though some filler still can be enjoyable.
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Filler != bad

When will people stop making this assumption...
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lionheart04 said:
it sucks because no matter how long it is it has no impact in the main story
No they're great because without them you wouldn't have the main story in most cases.
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lionheart04 said:
it sucks because no matter how long it is it has no impact in the main story
No they're great because without them you wouldn't have the main story in most cases.
...what about the manga.
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IntroverTurtle said:
lionheart04 said:
it sucks because no matter how long it is it has no impact in the main story
No they're great because without them you wouldn't have the main story in most cases.
...what about the manga.
We're talking about anime here.
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IntroverTurtle said:
Asap_ said:
IntroverTurtle said:
lionheart04 said:
it sucks because no matter how long it is it has no impact in the main story
No they're great because without them you wouldn't have the main story in most cases.
...what about the manga.
We're talking about anime here.
But the manga is proof that the main story can exist just fine without them.
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Asap_ said:
IntroverTurtle said:
Asap_ said:
IntroverTurtle said:
lionheart04 said:
it sucks because no matter how long it is it has no impact in the main story
No they're great because without them you wouldn't have the main story in most cases.
...what about the manga.
We're talking about anime here.
But the manga is proof that the main story can exist just fine without them.
My point was that most anime can't survive with just the original material, especially longer ones.
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IntroverTurtle said:
Asap_ said:
IntroverTurtle said:
Asap_ said:
IntroverTurtle said:
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it sucks because no matter how long it is it has no impact in the main story
No they're great because without them you wouldn't have the main story in most cases.
...what about the manga.
We're talking about anime here.
But the manga is proof that the main story can exist just fine without them.
My point was that most anime can't survive with just the original material, especially longer ones.
That's just from a financial standpoint, though. Qualitywise, they'd probably manage, since the manga sustains its popularity with just what it presents, which is the main storyline in the anime.
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That's just from a financial standpoint, though. Qualitywise, they'd probably manage, since the manga sustains its popularity with just what it presents, which is the main storyline in the anime.
Financial and quality wise if you consider the art, animation, and pacing as part of the quality. And what's expected from an anime is different from a manga. The people who watch anime are different from those who read manga, etc.
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Financial and quality wise if you consider the art, animation, and pacing as part of the quality.
...I don't really see your point. How does the art and animation matter in terms of story filler?
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And what's expected from an anime is different from a manga. The people who watch anime are different from those who read manga, etc.
But we're just talking about the story that is affected by the filler episodes. There's not much difference there.
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Asap_ said:
IntroverTurtle said:
Financial and quality wise if you consider the art, animation, and pacing as part of the quality.
...I don't really see your point. How does the art and animation matter in terms of story filler?
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And what's expected from an anime is different from a manga. The people who watch anime are different from those who read manga, etc.
But we're just talking about the story that is affected by the filler episodes. There's not much difference there.

And he's talking about the effects that the absence of fillers would have on the story like dragged pacing.
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And he's talking about the effects that the absence of fillers would have on the story like dragged pacing.
How rude, barging into other people's arguments.
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And he's talking about the effects that the absence of fillers would have on the story like dragged pacing.
How rude, barging into other people's arguments.

Lol, if you wanted to have a "private conversations" with him you could have PM him...
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5. Is it actually good?

Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant...
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