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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I was waiting for a "Thank you. Fu©k you.", heh. Good episode. we got to see the other side of the Gundam Medal of exterminating wars around the world and more fighting within the team. For some reason i rofl'd when Haro jumped into the water and went 'Ah!'. Looking forward to how they're going to handle the terror attacks. |
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| I enjoyed this one. The short fight scene at the beginning was pretty cool. It was neat as always to see the 4 gundams completely beat down the enemy. It was expected for something like the worldwide terrorism to happen. I can't wait to find out who specifically. |
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| loved it. i like tieria's personality XD. Great fight scenes and the story gets better and better. I'm looking forward to the next episode. |
| I laughed at Haro in the water as well, lol. As for Tieria's personality... gag me *blech* I'm glad Lockon went after him - I was ready to >< I didn't like the beginning, more in a moral sense. I hope Setsuna kills that stupid redhead jerk. So Setsuna was a child soldier, eh? I feel bad for his character now :( I had flashbacks to Blood Diamond *shudder* ...I don't know if I should admit this or not, but I had to stop the ep half way, figure out what the colors of their suits were, and watch it again xD Damn helmets! |
| I loved how they were all shocked after they heard the news of the terrorist attack and civilians dying. WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS ARE? I lol'ed. But really good episode. Plot is starting to thicken considerably. We got a see a good portion into Setsuna's past. And like I said, Sumeragi is hot. |
vindemon64 said: And like I said, Sumeragi is hot. What was up with her shirt :S How did those things stay in there???? :O I love her hair tho :D |
| It was a very good episode this week. They are really pushing the Jihad aspect which is great since it's something I wouldn't expect from Gundam. There was a good bit of action as well. I like that we finally got to see some more of Setsuna's past. Up until now, he hadn't spoken many lines even. Glad to see he isn't a Heero clone or anything. Seeing the four Meisters interact with each other was also interesting. So far they've done a good job of showing us personality. Yeah, Haro in the water was pretty funny. Especially when they are all serious about the upcoming mission and it cuts to the shot of him. It's like closeups on all the pilots with morbid looks on their faces, and then Haro being wet. lol... It seems like each episode is going by quicker and quicker. As soon as I really starting getting into it, the credits come up. Ah well, I guess that is a positive. Looking forward to next week. |
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| A little humor when Haro got carried away by the water, but I like Tieria's personality. Plus, it's understandable for them to act that way especially after what Setsuna did. The show seems to be getting better in terms of character development (if only just a little) so it's all good. And I'm wondering when that redheaded guy will find out who Exia's pilot is. |
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| I'm a bit happier now compared to the last ep. This ep seemed more realistic in terms of reactions when things where happening. For example when Setsuna got out of the gundam, he didn't pull of his mask and have some nostalgic talk with his enemy about the past like in almost every other gundam series. Instaid he just pulls a gun on him and plans to kill him as well as possibly die there without a second thought. Also when their on the island It wasn't like "OMG shame on you Setsuna for showing your self, lets go get some food and talk about what you did". They actually hit him and gay boy pulled a gun on him lol. I was expecting Setsuna to just get up and put his head to the end of the barrel and say "then shoot". I cant wait till the next ep. Its really starting to get good with the whole political story and fights. |
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Iriya said: And I'm wondering when that redheaded guy will find out who Exia's pilot is. Right before he dies, probably. Setsuna's past was probably the best (and scariest) part of the whole episode. And yeah, agree with everyone else on Haro. :D |
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| Really enjoyed this episode and better action than the previous episodes! also got an in sight to Setsuna F. Seiei past! |
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| Setsuna's past is almost exactly similar to Sagara Souske's in FMP.. so I wasn't too impressed by it. however, I was pretty impressed by how he point blank refused to give up Exia.. the whole idea of that gundam being his entire existence intrigues me! haha so i'm not the only person who wonders how Sumeragi keeps her cans in the bin! she's hot though. and lol @ haro haha.. the bus explosion was awesome.. one second Louise sprints off and KA-BLOWTHOR! nice little animation there. I think they're trying too hard to make Tieria seem like the bad guy.. i sense melodramatic change in character setting halfway through the series. or a tear-jerking backstory.. |
| Liked it, probably best ep so far for me because so much happened in this ep. Hope we find out more about Setsuna's past soon. Also looking forward to see how they handle the terrorists. |
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| Well I think the major difference between Setsuna and Sousuke is that Sousuke was never convinced to shoot his begging for their lives parents point blank. That was disturbing. Nice little Haro comedy though. Lockon is my favorite Meister. Tiera is my least favorite, being that he is a dick and all. Tiera should really work on his people skills and stop being so anti-social. If you work with a team, you shouldn't tell one of them that you will shoot them in the back. Its a good thing Setsuna is emo-tragic past or there might have been more of a conflict between those two. |
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| ROFL, the Haro was hilarious. One second we have all this serious drama happening, next second Haro's jumping around and lands in the water and goes "Ah!". I LOL-ed also. Setsuna's backstory was fairly interesting, I'm glad to see he actually has a personality behind the stone face and we're starting to be able to get into what makes his mind work. |
Legion17 said: Well I think the major difference between Setsuna and Sousuke is that Sousuke was never convinced to shoot his begging for their lives parents point blank. That was disturbing. Nice little Haro comedy though. Lockon is my favorite Meister. Tiera is my least favorite, being that he is a dick and all. Tiera should really work on his people skills and stop being so anti-social. If you work with a team, you shouldn't tell one of them that you will shoot them in the back. Its a good thing Setsuna is emo-tragic past or there might have been more of a conflict between those two. Not to mention his Gundam uses leet hacks. I swear after seeing his new shield, in my head I was thinking, why the hell do they even need the other Gundams to take on the same base. Just send this nutbag in and let him go ape shit on everyone wile the others do something else. Kind of pissed me off since all the other Gundams have obvious flaws and weaknesses that they have to watch out for when fighting but his is like a flying fortress using god mode and all weapons cheats and he has the nerv to tell the others they don't deserve to be Gundam pilots LAWL. |
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| The conflict between CB I thought the ep could've been done without it. It was just predictable and forced, imo. Other than that, I enjoyed the episode. |
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| setsuna was a kurd :S i would never have guessed that. I wonder if those where his parents he killed in the flashbacks. |
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| Wow, Sestuna killed his parents point blank...that's...disturbing to say the least. Now these terrorist attacks are going to really shake things up! |
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| My fave part has to be when Setsuna got "Bright-slapped" by Lockon XD and then Lockon asked if he needs to be disciplined more (ie "do you need me to hit you again?" XD) Crystal said: ROFL, the Haro was hilarious. One second we have all this serious drama happening, next second Haro's jumping around and lands in the water and goes "Ah!". That was awesome scene, random, but awesome. and the "Ah" sound Haro made was just sooo cute (makes me love Haro more ^^), and Lockon going "uh.." OranSolus said: Wow, Sestuna killed his parents point blank...that's...disturbing to say the least. Yes, but I like how he doesn't over-angst and whine about it, like some other characters in similar situations, gotta give him respect for that. |
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| So we see more of Setusna's past. Jeez,the way he killed his parents point blank like that. I feel bad. And Tiera.....I want to punch him. Yea, Setsuna messed up, but I think Lockon got his point across just fine without him pulling a gun on him. And then Haro got wet.XD |
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| This was another good episode. The fights are only getting better and better now. It's also nice to be finding out more about Setsuna's past with this Al guy. Speaking of which their battle was very good, but it was a little short. I was surprised to see that Setsuna cared enough to actually step out of the machine though. The rest of the battle against Maralia was well played ou8t as well, and I like how they noted in this that all of the world is starting to only focus on destroying Celestial Being. There was a nice confrontation on the island between the Gundam Meisters as well. It was upsetting to see that Setsuna wouldn't give away any answers to the other though. And I thought it was a bit arrogant of him to just say he deserves to be a Gundam because he's alive. Man even though he's the main character, I'm still not a fan of Setsuna. And after what happened with those terrotist attacks I gotta say that I'm not really liking Teiria either, he seems like a bit of a douche now. Well all in all it was a good episode, and I'm wondering what'll happen next and how Celestial Being will deal with the current situation. 4/5 |
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| A war paradox. Fight terrorism with terrorism. |
ClementIV said: A war paradox. Fight terrorism with terrorism. Terrorism is intentionally killing civilians. The Gundams are fighting the military which is war. The paradox is fighting a war against everyone to stop war. |
| *Goes to watch episode 8 immediately* |
| helluva. setsuna killed his parents. kyaa~ haro is so cute. ^^ |
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| Daaamn. Killing his parents at point blank range. Thats going to fuck someone up. I liked the poor Haro being swept out to sea. Twas brilliant. I like this fighting terrorism with terrorism thing. It's going to play right into what I think Celestial Beings goals are. Create a combined hatred on one thing to unite the world together against them. |
| Setsuna deserves to be killed on that beach. |
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| The Meister with the glasses is the typical despicable character that for some reason is popular with the MAL crowd (soft spoken, dubious sexuality and bishounen I suppose). What a douche. This anime had a lot of balls to tackle terrorism as a subject. |
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| The gundams are so overpowered compared to everyone else right now. Ali Al-Sarges, you da-man, man. (I like him because he's a psycho) |
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| Wow, so... Setsuna killed his parents? Holy shit. I can't wait to learn more about Setsuna's backstory. The hell kind of influence could be strong enough to possess him to do that? And yeah, Tieria is a dick. He'd better go through some serious development. |
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| Tieria's god complex is really getting annoying. However Setsuna deserves to be grounded for his personal stunt. |
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| The child soldier part was really disturbing, but it's definitely made me more interested in Setsuna's background. It's also interesting to see them talk about knowing the amount of casualties that would result from Celestial Being's plans. Seems like they've calculated for everything, every possible outcome. |
| Very nice episode.... 3 great points. for one side we can watch/discover the consequences of a war on civilians/innocents, (every day watch it on the TV News), but if Celestial wants to take this way, the death is one of the points. The second point...Self-preservation and fear, therefore, humanity, instead of embracing peace, will increase spending on armaments. Third point....Terrorism! but supported by the regent governments!!!! Well, here Celestial has 2 options, act or not act, although the kids will finally act, in my opinion, in this point, Celestial they would have to close their eyes, why terrorism is like playing hide and seek! Well, but the most interesting of all them, is that all of it are happen today around the world!!!! kekeke |
| Tieria should've shot Setsuna like maybe in the arm or something, the dude is a loose canon. Wondering how will they handle the terror attacks, but I suspect that they are a ploy or something though. |
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| That scene with 4 Gundams seeing white flare after wrecking the enemy forces was epic. |
| Not only he killed his parents at point blank range but also smiled after it, what can I say? MAY ALLAH ACCEPTS HIS WILL FOR JIHAD! How did you come to this conclusion? I knew he was from the Middle East, but how did you recognize him as a Kurd? |
| the show is starting to grow on me; i just feel like there is some significant contradiction with celestial being. |
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| Tieria is the type of character i always hate in all types of media, i can't force myself to like people like him. Setsuna's past was shocking, I'm curious to know more about him and the other pilots. The confrontation at the beach was very good. |
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| Setsuna has photographic memory of Ali's movements. Poor Haro gets washed up... |
| Setsuna should've been slapped |
| Still not really a fan of any of the characters, though from a less character-centric point of view it's at least interesting (in a "this makes sense" way) that Celestial Being's rather unrealistic declaration of intent seems to be catching up to them. Declaring that they'd somehow stamp out all war, and essentially trying to play god, would quite logically run into some serious issues. I do wonder who/what that Veda entity is. StateofOhayo said: Yeah, same here. At first I figured that Celestial Being was gonna be the good guys, and I felt the show wasn't making much sense in terms of how they were able to talk so big and get away with it, but based on this episode and some material from prior episodes, it seems that the writers were quite aware that they aren't necessarily the good guys and are actually going to address the more philosophical aspects of this.the show is starting to grow on me; i just feel like there is some significant contradiction with celestial being. |
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