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Apr 1, 2013 2:19 PM
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Boku no Pico is pretty fucking dark when you think about it. Those cold black walls waiting for you at the prison cellars...
Apr 2, 2013 1:02 AM

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2deep4me

I like all sorts. I like a good actually thought provoking anime. Things like Time of Eve is are pretty interesting anime. Though even that isn't super deep.

To be honest though, usually when I want "deep", I read non-fiction. It's enjoyable enough when anime actually accomplish deep. But most anime don't. And I'd rather have a cute and funny anime that can make me laugh or smile than a bad attempt at being "deep".
Apr 2, 2013 3:38 AM

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TallonKarrde23 said:
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The LN is amazing. The adaption, a mere shadow of the LN. Because of the way it was adapted, it came off more as a joke than what it really is.


People always claim this, but the LN is pretty fucking terrible too. It feels similar to self-insert fanfics middle school kids write.


Well, I wasn't exactly stating a fact. I was mentioning the difference between the two in my opinion. In your opinion, they're both shitty. In mine, the adaption was shitty while the LN, good
Apr 2, 2013 5:21 PM
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wow, more than 100 people like dark anime. You serious? I find that hard to believe considering most anime are so childish. It's not a surprise people call anime cartoons, because I'm starting to get a sense that the REAL "anime" are dying out, and the moe anime (the cartoons) are moving in way too quick.
Apr 2, 2013 6:10 PM

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stanklem28 said:
wow, more than 100 people like dark anime. You serious? I find that hard to believe considering most anime are so childish. It's not a surprise people call anime cartoons, because I'm starting to get a sense that the REAL "anime" are dying out, and the moe anime (the cartoons) are moving in way too quick.

It could also be that people like both.
Apr 2, 2013 6:14 PM

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jal90 said:
It could also be that people like both.

I'm very open minded towards both.

I hated the whole "It's not a cartoon it's an anime! Cartoons are for kids!" mentality that was so prevalent in the 90s.
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Despite the plethora of anime that are much more mentally stimulating, intense and mature than some of what is intended for adults. I mean those sort of shows my mother has recorded. It's actually a really terrible source to make an opinion, but I touch the television at such seldom moments and watch it even less to the point I can't even name shows or anything anymore. Even then, the connotation anime received may have been because the lighter and more childish anime were made mainstream or shown in children's channels, parents and children not being bothered to make any sort of investigation and end up making the hasty generalization that what they've seen must be applicable to all anime, which is little to none. There may be other reasons, of course.
Apr 2, 2013 8:48 PM
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Yes, I do.
Apr 2, 2013 11:36 PM
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Go to Crunchyroll and scroll down the "Simulcasts" right now. I bet you won't find more than 1/10 dark, mature anime on there.
Apr 3, 2013 12:01 AM

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stanklem28 said:
Go to Crunchyroll and scroll down the "Simulcasts" right now. I bet you won't find more than 1/10 dark, mature anime on there.


Learn the meaning of a business before you try to criticise one. Also, an anime can be dark, mature AND moe. Your extremely close-minded brain makes you not see it.
Apr 3, 2013 12:05 AM

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no i liek moeshit anime's or an anime about schoolgirls and their daily activity
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Apr 3, 2013 12:17 AM
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yhunata said:
stanklem28 said:
Go to Crunchyroll and scroll down the "Simulcasts" right now. I bet you won't find more than 1/10 dark, mature anime on there.


Learn the meaning of a business before you try to criticise one. Also, an anime can be dark, mature AND moe. Your extremely close-minded brain makes you not see it.
My meaning of "moe" anime is comical, childish anime like Lucky Star. Moe, for me, is a genre of itself. But if you refer to moe as "cutesie," then I can see what you said is true. Madoka Magica has cutesie art, and it's still dark and mature as hell.
Apr 3, 2013 12:47 AM
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Oh for fuck sake.
Apr 3, 2013 12:53 AM

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Vixion said:
no i liek moeshit anime's or an anime about schoolgirls and their daily activity

That's the spirit Zura!
Apr 3, 2013 12:55 AM

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stanklem28 said:
yhunata said:
stanklem28 said:
Go to Crunchyroll and scroll down the "Simulcasts" right now. I bet you won't find more than 1/10 dark, mature anime on there.


Learn the meaning of a business before you try to criticise one. Also, an anime can be dark, mature AND moe. Your extremely close-minded brain makes you not see it.
My meaning of "moe" anime is comical, childish anime like Lucky Star. Moe, for me, is a genre of itself. But if you refer to moe as "cutesie," then I can see what you said is true. Madoka Magica has cutesie art, and it's still dark and mature as hell.


You can't just make up a definition and a genre -__-.
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parfaited said:
Vixion said:
no i liek moeshit anime's or an anime about schoolgirls and their daily activity

That's the spirit Zura!


It's not Zura, it's Katsura!
Apr 3, 2013 1:13 AM

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So basically what this troll is saying, is that it wants anime that is both very colourful and has a "moe" artsyle, but is also gore and horror?
Apr 3, 2013 1:16 AM

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Yes, I do. Now kiss me stanklem.
Apr 3, 2013 1:39 AM

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mecharobot said:
So basically what this troll is saying, is that it wants anime that is both very colourful and has a "moe" artsyle, but is also gore and horror?


Basically, he's saying that moe art-style is childish and serious art-style is dark and mature.
Apr 3, 2013 2:57 AM

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yhunata said:
mecharobot said:
So basically what this troll is saying, is that it wants anime that is both very colourful and has a "moe" artsyle, but is also gore and horror?


Basically, he's saying that moe art-style is childish and serious art-style is dark and mature.


He needs to watch Higurashi.

Apr 3, 2013 3:06 AM

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I'd say no. I like mature and serious anime, but not dark per se. Gore is not my thing, though I don't mind it if the series is otherwise good. Psychological anime either works for me or I utterly hate it, usually depending on the main character(s), or whether it infuriates me by being artsy or pretentious. I like tragic stories but not those populated solely by inhuman or incomprehensible people in some weird survival of the fittest setting or some such. What is the point of watching a massacre if you already know that humans are capable of virtually any atrocity?
Apr 3, 2013 3:19 AM

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I think OP has lost touch with reality.
stanklem28 said:
wow, more than 100 people like dark anime. You serious? I find that hard to believe considering most anime are so childish. It's not a surprise people call anime cartoons, because I'm starting to get a sense that the REAL "anime" are dying out, and the moe anime (the cartoons) are moving in way too quick.

Get inside your head that people can like BOTH "dark" and moe.And why the hell do you care about what non anime viewers think about something they dont know shit about-kinda like you apparently.If you are so ashamed to say that you like anime because most of them are "childish",I think it's time for you to grow up a little.
Apr 3, 2013 4:25 AM

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yhunata said:
stanklem28 said:
Go to Crunchyroll and scroll down the "Simulcasts" right now. I bet you won't find more than 1/10 dark, mature anime on there.


Learn the meaning of a business before you try to criticise one. Also, an anime can be dark, mature AND moe. Your extremely close-minded brain makes you not see it.


To be fair, this is the guy who reads wikipedia entries to judge a show so it's not like he really gets a "feel" for the actual tone of a series. Though judging an industry by that is pretty dumb anyway.
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Apr 3, 2013 4:37 AM

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jal90 said:
Actually I think the OP rants louder if we vote yes, because that means he's not special or something.

stanklem28 said:
wow, more than 100 people like dark anime. You serious? I find that hard to believe considering most anime are so childish

This thread in a nutshell.
Apr 3, 2013 4:43 AM

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yhunata said:
Basically, he's saying that moe art-style is childish and serious art-style is dark and mature.


But in the other thread he was complaining that he doesn't like old art, which can be much more serious and gritty in tone, when now we have androngynous bishies and moeblobs, meaning he secretly prefers them.

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He needs to watch Higurashi.


Probably too old for him.
Apr 3, 2013 4:52 AM

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mecharobot said:
yhunata said:
Basically, he's saying that moe art-style is childish and serious art-style is dark and mature.


But in the other thread he was complaining that he doesn't like old art, which can be much more serious and gritty in tone, when now we have androngynous bishies and moeblobs, meaning he secretly prefers them.

012yArthur0 said:

He needs to watch Higurashi.


Probably too old for him.
He already did.7 for s1 and 9 for s2.I wonder how he didnt gave up on it with all the cute stuff they do like cosplay,games etc...
Apr 3, 2013 4:55 AM

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ssjokg said:
mecharobot said:
yhunata said:
Basically, he's saying that moe art-style is childish and serious art-style is dark and mature.


But in the other thread he was complaining that he doesn't like old art, which can be much more serious and gritty in tone, when now we have androngynous bishies and moeblobs, meaning he secretly prefers them.

012yArthur0 said:

He needs to watch Higurashi.


Probably too old for him.
He already did.7 for s1 and 9 for s2.I wonder how he didnt gave up on it with all the cute stuff they do like cosplay,games etc...
God knows I gave up on it.
Apr 3, 2013 5:01 AM

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mecharobot said:
yhunata said:
Basically, he's saying that moe art-style is childish and serious art-style is dark and mature.


But in the other thread he was complaining that he doesn't like old art, which can be much more serious and gritty in tone, when now we have androngynous bishies and moeblobs, meaning he secretly prefers them.


Well, he doesn't really watch the anime itself. You read it in this thread, right (check insan3soldiern's post)? Stanklem is MAL's own wikiboy. Him "watching" an anime means reading the wikipedia entry of it.
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yhunata said:
mecharobot said:
yhunata said:
Basically, he's saying that moe art-style is childish and serious art-style is dark and mature.


But in the other thread he was complaining that he doesn't like old art, which can be much more serious and gritty in tone, when now we have androngynous bishies and moeblobs, meaning he secretly prefers them.


Well, he doesn't really watch the anime itself. You read it in this thread, right (check insan3soldiern's post)? Stanklem is MAL's own wikiboy. Him "watching" an anime means reading the wikipedia entry of it.
What is your avatar from? Those eyes are mesmerizing.
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BlackSabotage said:
yhunata said:
mecharobot said:
yhunata said:
Basically, he's saying that moe art-style is childish and serious art-style is dark and mature.


But in the other thread he was complaining that he doesn't like old art, which can be much more serious and gritty in tone, when now we have androngynous bishies and moeblobs, meaning he secretly prefers them.


Well, he doesn't really watch the anime itself. You read it in this thread, right (check insan3soldiern's post)? Stanklem is MAL's own wikiboy. Him "watching" an anime means reading the wikipedia entry of it.
What is your avatar from? Those eyes are mesmerizing.


Senyuu, a comedy short that aired this winter. Basically, it's about 5 minutes long and it's well worth the random jokes.
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yhunata said:
BlackSabotage said:
yhunata said:
mecharobot said:
yhunata said:
Basically, he's saying that moe art-style is childish and serious art-style is dark and mature.


But in the other thread he was complaining that he doesn't like old art, which can be much more serious and gritty in tone, when now we have androngynous bishies and moeblobs, meaning he secretly prefers them.


Well, he doesn't really watch the anime itself. You read it in this thread, right (check insan3soldiern's post)? Stanklem is MAL's own wikiboy. Him "watching" an anime means reading the wikipedia entry of it.
What is your avatar from? Those eyes are mesmerizing.


Senyuu, a comedy short that aired this winter. Basically, it's about 5 minutes long and it's well worth the random jokes.
I shall check it out. Thanks :D
Apr 3, 2013 8:32 AM

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yhunata said:
Well, he doesn't really watch the anime itself. You read it in this thread, right (check insan3soldiern's post)? Stanklem is MAL's own wikiboy. Him "watching" an anime means reading the wikipedia entry of it.
I know, right? Apparently Supposedly, he is a die-hard fan of these series and loves them to death, but Texhnolyze and Serial Experiments Lain on his list are just so out of place with their ratings. I remember when he kept saying that they have bad plots from what he can see on the wikipedia plot summaries. I'm pretty sure he only added them to his list with many other anime just so they would stop being recommended to him in the numerous recommendation threads he created, which all asked for the same thing.
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Trolls and those who feel small about themselves because they've been told horrible things about the world and about themselves.

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Apr 3, 2013 10:10 AM

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I don't think this will make that much sense, but when i watch most serious/dark/mature show, it really feels like i am really watching anime. When watching most moe/comedy/shonen i feel like i am watching cartoons. When watching most ecchi/harem, i feel like i am just teasing a guilty pleasure.


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Synrite said:
I don't think this will make that much sense, but when i watch most serious/dark/mature show, it really feels like i am really watching anime. When watching most moe/comedy/shonen i feel like i am watching cartoons. When watching most ecchi/harem, i feel like i am just teasing a guilty pleasure.
I feel the same way
Apr 3, 2013 10:37 AM

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Assuming you consider the likes of Monster, Texhnolyze, Serial Experiments Lain and Perfect Blue 'DARK', my answer would be yes.
Apr 3, 2013 10:46 AM
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Synrite said:
I don't think this will make that much sense, but when i watch most serious/dark/mature show, it really feels like i am really watching anime. When watching most moe/comedy i feel like i am watching cartoons. When watching most ecchi/harem, i feel like i am just teasing a guilty pleasure.

This really.
Apr 3, 2013 11:04 AM

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More horror, more blood, more fucked up plots PLEASE !

Neon Genesis Evangelion can get pretty fucked up, might be of interest to you, minus horror.
Same for Texhnolyze.

Damn, I still need watch Texhnolyze, everyone says is good.
Apr 3, 2013 11:15 AM

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ainky said:
Tavor said:
LanaNi said:
More horror, more blood, more fucked up plots PLEASE !

Neon Genesis Evangelion can get pretty fucked up, might be of interest to you, minus horror.
Same for Texhnolyze.

Damn, I still need watch Texhnolyze, everyone says is good.


Good luck, I haven't completed it yet, but let me tell you am I ever hating every minute of it. Don't get me wrong it's fantastic I absolutely adore it; It's just that... Eh you'll see what I mean when you get into it.
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SaekoBusu said:
ainky said:
Tavor said:
LanaNi said:
More horror, more blood, more fucked up plots PLEASE !

Neon Genesis Evangelion can get pretty fucked up, might be of interest to you, minus horror.
Same for Texhnolyze.

Damn, I still need watch Texhnolyze, everyone says is good.


Good luck, I haven't completed it yet, but let me tell you am I ever hating every minute of it. Don't get me wrong it's fantastic I absolutely adore it; It's just that... Eh you'll see what I mean when you get into it.


At least you have Aria to fall back on for the fluffy feelings.
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Apr 3, 2013 11:59 AM

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So

About that Shin Sekai Yori.

S'pretty deep, yo. Pdark, too.
I’m just excited to see my Lord and Savior, Baphomet, represented in such glorious Italian stone. I do hope his eyes gaze upon me and that my allegiance is recognized.

Apr 3, 2013 12:06 PM

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*Checks stanky's list*

Hmmm yes, HOTD, a 9? Yeah ok, it is neither dark not serious. The only thing mature in it is the enormous breast sizes of all the girls in it.

Looking forward to seeing what you have to say about Usagi Drop seeing as how it's on your PTW. I'm sure the darkness that we all know is in that will totally blow your mind. No moe in there at all obviously.

In all seriousness though, from what I read here of your threads. It's apparent you don't enjoy anime and berate the rest of us for liking it. Which begs the question...why are you even here if not to moan about people not having the same opinion as you?
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No obviously everyone on this forum like lighthearted terribad moeshit and highschool romcoms >_>

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stanklem28 said:
Notice the emphasis on DARK.

I don't mean "mature" as in showing naked girls or making a shit-ton of sex jokes. That's more on the lines of "inappropriate."

I mean mature anime as in those with deep, non-comical plots, which usually go with "serious" anime. So mature anime are usually serious anyway.

And "dark" means something that's messed-up like gore and blood. "Dark" could also mean a messed-up story too; a traumatic or psychological story. Again, notice the emphasis on DARK.

If you like mature anime only, and not specifically dark and mature anime, vote no.

See, there is this fascination with something called "guro" in the manga/anime world. I assume that stems from people wanting to see unimaginable things. Maybe these unimaginable things are more shocking and entertaining than seeing mundane things like a bunch of highschool kids talking about their next club meeting or a bunch of kids with special powers shooting lighting balls.

Anyway, I'm just trying to get the demographics for dark, mature anime lovers because I've seen WAY TOO MANY comical and/or corny anime. If I am correct, around 80% of you would hate mature anime, and 20% would like it. That makes me, and my fellow dark anime lovers, a minority. We'll see...

EDIT: apparently, the data's the inverse of what I expected. This does not correlate with the HUGE amount of comical and/or corny anime in existence right now. There are 3 reasons for this inconsistency:

1) The voters are screwing with the statistics because they want to screw up my prediction.

2) The voters here are the ones freeloading off of anime and not actually paying.

3) The voters here are telling the truth AND they're paying for the anime. But, anime creators don't give a single crap, because they release what they want.


You're looking at 150~ Voters as opposed to millions of viewers, of course you're not going to get the statistics you imagined as you're looking at a forum where the only people who would click on such a title would A) be the majority of the people who do enjoy DARK anime, and B) There is no B.

The reason that DARK anime is say 20% of the anime made, the reasoning behind this is because it's much easier to reach an all-age demographic as opposed to a 17/18+, and most studios' will take this fact into account.
Apr 3, 2013 1:34 PM

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I don't know what is a dark anime..don't think I've ever seen one...

Higurashi was really comical, Elfen Lied had naked chicks, Deadman Wonderland was constant sex talk, Code Geass had highschool kids talking about their next club meeting, and Psycho Pass has a bunch of kids shooting lightning balls.. :I
sexual incest in nisomonogatari - no one bats an eye
romance incest in SAO - everyone loses their minds
Apr 3, 2013 1:48 PM

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I don't know what is a dark anime..don't think I've ever seen one...


I think it means that its drab and doesn't have much light. Or that it takes place during the night. Maybe something like Texhnolyze, although I think I'm forgetting some of the really dark ones.
Apr 3, 2013 1:50 PM

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Not sure what you meant about "serious" and "mature" but I do really like dark-themed series.


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I like "dark, serious, and mature " (for example, NANA) anime.

But I don't like GRIMDARK, deepshit, and pointless-tit-and-gore anime (for example, Berserk). There's a huge difference, given the latter is the most hilariously immature shit you can find.
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Dark anime is better with gore, tits, and messed-up things. That doesn't mean that those things have to be in there for an anime to be dark. It just means that without those things, the anime might be a little boring.
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Deepshit anime sucks.

Death Note is shit.

Mirai Nikki is shit.

Elfen Lied is shit.

All shit.

Moe is love. Moe is life.
I’m just excited to see my Lord and Savior, Baphomet, represented in such glorious Italian stone. I do hope his eyes gaze upon me and that my allegiance is recognized.

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