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May 17, 2012 4:25 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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May 17, 2012 5:04 AM
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It was good, so sad when it was showing Sai and Shin's flashback. Sasori went too quickly though. :<
May 17, 2012 5:13 AM
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So there is a weakness to the reanimation technique but will they be fast enough to spread that news amongst there ranks and will everyone know the emotions of there enemy's.
And what are they planning to do with Deidra will they use him for in tell or do they have other plans with him?

And what will Madar do with Kabuto it's clear they don't trust each other for obvious reasons things will become tense now.
May 17, 2012 5:19 AM
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I love Sai, so it was nice to see his past animated.
May 17, 2012 5:20 AM
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Good episode, although not on par with the previous one.
Sai's flashback was a nice touch. Sasori's fight flashback wasn't as necessary IMO though.

Pretty nice overall.
4/5
May 17, 2012 5:55 AM
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Sasori is my fav char =[ now hes gone again


May 17, 2012 6:31 AM
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So, reanimation jutsu isn't perfect. Eh, to bad we probably won't see Sasori again, I liked him. Looking forward to next episode.


May 17, 2012 7:05 AM
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The akatsuki & villains get caught way to easily. Just when I thought they had a nice plan that could actually kill some of the shinobi, there is a big flaw, because they are obviously good in changing their emotions, especially Naruto. No, I'm not entertained, they shouldn't have been caught by guys that were never as powerful as them.
May 17, 2012 8:28 AM
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Gravitation said:
The akatsuki & villains get caught way to easily. Just when I thought they had a nice plan that could actually kill some of the shinobi, there is a big flaw, because they are obviously good in changing their emotions, especially Naruto. No, I'm not entertained, they shouldn't have been caught by guys that were never as powerful as them.


This. I swear the tobi battle better be the most legendary thing ever....
May 17, 2012 9:07 AM

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Gravitation said:
The akatsuki & villains get caught way to easily. Just when I thought they had a nice plan that could actually kill some of the shinobi, there is a big flaw, because they are obviously good in changing their emotions, especially Naruto. No, I'm not entertained, they shouldn't have been caught by guys that were never as powerful as them.


Completely agree they get owned in a blink of an eye and then they talk the rest of it out which is just so shitty, it's meant to be a war not bam bad guy dead over and over again. Both sides are meant to take loses not just stupid filler characters which no one cares about. Also giving Sasori no puppets to fight with how stupid is that -.-

Boring episode long flash back was long, the only decent side to this episode was the ending when bad arse Madara is all like bitch I'll be using you.
2/5
May 17, 2012 9:15 AM

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May 17, 2012 9:19 AM

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Total crap, Kishi tries his hardest to squeeze emotional scenes out of every character, the #1 thing he fails at...I mean look! It's fucking Sai, wasn't he emotionless? Doesn't even make sense and if it did, then the Sai arc itself doesn't.
>.<
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May 17, 2012 10:38 AM

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Seemed kind of rushed to me, but other than that it was Awesome :)
May 17, 2012 11:07 AM

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Good episode, although not on par with the previous one.
Sai's flashback was a nice touch. Sasori's fight flashback wasn't as necessary IMO though.

Pretty nice overall.
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next episode will be interesting
May 17, 2012 11:20 AM

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Sai has no emotions whatesoever always thought Sasuke was always better.
May 17, 2012 11:30 AM

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iNeon said:
Gravitation said:
The akatsuki & villains get caught way to easily. Just when I thought they had a nice plan that could actually kill some of the shinobi, there is a big flaw, because they are obviously good in changing their emotions, especially Naruto. No, I'm not entertained, they shouldn't have been caught by guys that were never as powerful as them.


Completely agree they get owned in a blink of an eye and then they talk the rest of it out which is just so shitty, it's meant to be a war not bam bad guy dead over and over again. Both sides are meant to take loses not just stupid filler characters which no one cares about. Also giving Sasori no puppets to fight with how stupid is that -.-

Boring episode long flash back was long, the only decent side to this episode was the ending when bad arse Madara is all like bitch I'll be using you.
2/5



I agree, this episode kind of gives you that impression, but your jumping way to conclusions to fast, their will be an equal side to the war. Next episodes are going to be bad ass.



May 17, 2012 11:34 AM

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Gravitation said:
The akatsuki & villains get caught way to easily. Just when I thought they had a nice plan that could actually kill some of the shinobi, there is a big flaw, because they are obviously good in changing their emotions, especially Naruto. No, I'm not entertained, they shouldn't have been caught by guys that were never as powerful as them.


This. I swear the tobi battle better be the most legendary thing ever....


Almost incomprehensible and incomparable.



May 17, 2012 11:51 AM

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So Im guessing that Reanimation jutsu can bring anyone back to life but the jutsu can be ended if you put the soul to ease.

I loved the Sai/Shin flashbacks.
May 17, 2012 12:26 PM

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Whaa, Sai never showed so many emotions in one episode!
I loved his + Shin's flashback (it wasn't in manga, if I remember well).
Sasori's part was awesome too, felt a little rushed, but still emotional. A little recaps from his fight, which took place about 240 episodes ago I guess. I feel like re-read that part in manga now ;)
And... Is it only me, or soundtrack was pure epic? O.o
May 17, 2012 1:26 PM

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I liked the sad tone of this episode, the battles don't run away. Next episode time for some Madara and Kabuto, it's going to be good.

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And... Is it only me, or soundtrack was pure epic? O.o

Nope, same here, it fits really well.
May 17, 2012 1:32 PM

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Good, not great. Such emotional scenes. They could have drawn them out longer and took away from some of the previous episodes that were in 'preparation'.

The pacing was really bad, at least to me. Especially during Sasori's transformation and Sai's flashback. It just didn't seem right.

Overall though, it was a nice episode. I thought I'd shed some tears, but it wasn't executed well enough for that. I felt like I was reaching to feel emotion, if you know what I mean like that.

Also, the fight seemed too quick. I was looking for some crazy action-y scenes, and instead we get a badly paced emotional pour out. I agree with others that Sasori was changed too quickly.
It also made me lose the feeling that Naruto has a special gift of altering people's mind sets. If Kankuro did it to Sasori - in like what, 10 seconds? - then is Naruto really that special?

3/5 - Not looking forward that much to next episode... I'd like to learn about the Reanimation Jutsu, but I feel like I know enough to go along with the story haha.
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May 17, 2012 4:52 PM

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I rather enjoyed it, and while Sasori did seem to give up pretty quickly there was a fair amount of time skipped there. He probably had a good long time stuck there with all those swords in him to think about how little he wanted to keep fighting :P Kinda odd to see Sasori as a kid, so he turned his parents into puppets as well? Odd they didn't show up in his fight, then, or did they? It was a pretty Sakura-centric fight so I largely forgot about it.

It was odd that Sai and Shin didn't actually fight at all, Shin's only 'attack' was involuntarily blowing up and then being reanimated. Hopefully the next episode will fill us in as to how exactly the two managed to dispel their Edo Tensei's. Is it really just causing emotion to stir in their hearts? That seems kinda a lame way to defeat the army of the dead, try and fend off their attacks long enough to figure out their dismissal trigger, and then solve their problems with Talk No Jutsu. But fairly in keeping with Naruto, I have to say.

Next episode all the tension between Madara and Kabuto comes to a head, should be awesome. I'm sure Kabuto won't tell Madara everything, he's far too wily a snake for that. I doubt they'll actually fight, at most they'll threaten one another and maybe flash a preliminary trump card or two.
May 17, 2012 8:25 PM

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Deidara is being really annoying and looks like Kabuto is getting in some trouble with Tobi. I don't think it is such a good idea to tell him the secrets, they should just engage imo.
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May 17, 2012 9:18 PM

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Deidara is being really annoying and looks like Kabuto is getting in some trouble with Tobi. I don't think it is such a good idea to tell him the secrets, they should just engage imo.


He sort of has to tell the secrets as they are partners in the war (at least business wise) to gain each others trust. However, it does not seem that Kabuto knows all the mysteries of the Edo Tensei as he himself mentioned in this episode.
May 17, 2012 9:52 PM

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I like the idea that the Reanimation Jutsu has a weakness (since how else could the good guys win if the zombies were completely invincible) but the weakness being that they can be basically talked down with an emotional moment is a complete cop out, and robs the audience of a fight.

I never liked Sai and didn't care much for his backstory, but I was still looking forward to him fighting his brother, and maybe even seeing some emotions resurface. But then he sees that picture and just disappears before anything interesting can happen, and then the same thing happens to Sasori just as I was getting used to having him back.

If the same pattern happens every fight, then there is absolutely no point in even bringing the dead ninjas back to life in the first place. It's especially likely that this could happen since the same thing basically happened when Naruto talked down Pain, and if that happens again with zombie Pain I'll be extra pissed off.

May 17, 2012 11:38 PM

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Decent ep.

4/5!

Next ep should explain why things went too fast in this ep =)

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May 18, 2012 6:04 AM

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I've never really liked Sai much as a character for some reason.
May 18, 2012 9:53 AM

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I feel better about the re-animation jutsu now. It seems to cheapen a character's death if they can just be brought back to life so easily. There needs to be a finality of the sacrifice to make it seem worth while, if characters are brought back all the time, dying loses meaning. In this episode this was used to give closure and that seems better to me than just randomly being able to bring anyone back from the dead.
May 18, 2012 11:52 AM
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Amazing episode although it feels a bit rushed, expected more of a battle between all of them.

I was surprised that Shin and Sasori managed to be "set free" or w/e you can call it but it was really beautiful. Can't wait to see how the other fights/encounters pan out especially Shikamaru and Asuma which I'm guessing and hoping will happen.

As always, the soundtrack kicks ass!
May 18, 2012 2:29 PM

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I felt that the manga did a slightly better job and tugging at my heart when sasori passed down his mother and father puppets. But the animation where he was being freed from the jutsu made it fantastic still.
May 18, 2012 3:06 PM

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There's too many talking in this thing. Stupid flashbacks pop up in every episode. Deidara and Sasori get beaten by a bunch of fodder. Looks nothing like a war. I'm prepared to be disappointed.
May 19, 2012 2:46 AM

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Sasori's end was a bit 'cheesy' IMO, Sai was too emotional in his flashback, sasori's flashback made me angry as they were talking about sakura, only needed to show sakura's face and thats all, all the rest was unnecessary

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May 19, 2012 11:32 AM

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Total crap, Kishi tries his hardest to squeeze emotional scenes out of every character, the #1 thing he fails at...I mean look! It's fucking Sai, wasn't he emotionless? Doesn't even make sense and if it did, then the Sai arc itself doesn't.
>.<


If you are gonna criticize at least criticize something valid like how easy they got defeated by guys that couldn't come close to their level in the past. Not something that makes you seem like a complete idiot or someone who doesn't pay attention while watching.
May 19, 2012 6:27 PM

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Great episode, love Sai's backstory. People are complaining that the Akatsuki are falling apart too easily? You haven't seen anything yet so don't jump the gun.
May 20, 2012 6:19 AM
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I was actually a little disappointed. Here we had a chance for a good fight scene and we ended up with a backstory. I can understand Sai's brother disintegrating after hearing reason, but Sasori? Shouldn't there have been a little more battling before he came to his senses?
May 21, 2012 6:47 AM
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great battle at the star good flash back telling us why sai have no emotion
i like this episode
sai kick ass
May 21, 2012 3:24 PM

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Loved this episode It was really good! Sasori & Sai's brother made it very good. Seemed like Sasori would've turned into a good guy at the end when he was smiling.
May 23, 2012 12:20 AM

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I love the idea of the reanimation jutsu having a weakness! Especially that it's this weakness. I sense some epic sad moments in this arc :333

But I did dislike how quick this episode went ;_;.. and Sai no more emotion? Wa he looked so happy in the past.
May 23, 2012 3:14 PM

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Sai's story with his "brother" was so short yet sad. I teared up. ;A; And can't wait to see how Deidara will be released.. ;;
May 23, 2012 6:48 PM

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Man, what a great episode. Sai's face made me laugh hysterically. It was sad to see what happened between him and his brother. Thank God Danzo is gone now. Sasori too, though he seemed to have a bit more kindness in his final moments, and I respect him for that. Looking forward to the next episode, though again I hope Anko's life isn't in danger.
May 24, 2012 6:36 AM

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It's like wandering spirits who go the spirit world once they complete it's wishes
Sasori's part was to short
May 27, 2012 2:19 AM

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Really surprised about how much Sai actually can feel! I thought they stripped his emotion but he truly does have a heart somewhere deep down. Sasori was great, didn't expect him to pass so easily though.
Jun 21, 2012 10:48 AM
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Yeah, have to agree with 1lau- but yet again we saw them fighting with all their might in previous episodes and it were long battles. So here, knowing all of their techniques it was no use to prolong it not to mention that they grew lvl up by receiving "infinite bodies". That's why the fight was that short.
Still, pseudo edo-tensei by pseudo Orochimaru (kabuto mutant) is pseudo.
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Jun 22, 2012 12:07 PM

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aww i wanted to see more of Sasori :\
Jul 24, 2012 12:58 PM
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Awesome episode, finally the anime is making progress into the war,the wait has been so long.
Sai's past was sad and I agree sasori went quite fast. Deidaraa is so awesome, it's good to have him back for a while.

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I feel bad for Sai...but now I want to know his real name.
Aug 28, 2012 4:39 PM

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It was great seeing how sai and his brother acted, and I"m surprised sasori gave in, Everyone really thinks they are in control but naruto still there..

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Sep 23, 2012 3:17 PM
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That was touching and tragic x_x;!!

Sai was such a cutie blushing and really smiling but now things make sense to the one who doesn't read the manga.

I felt happy that it wouldn't be just an ongoing never dieing re animated "characters" and that there like a ghost who hasn't finished what they wanted to do/see so when it's presented to them they can rest in peace. Hopefully Kabuto can't pull there emotions completely though.

I am sad though cause Asuma ((pretty sure that's his name)) is back x_x;!!! And it's soo sad they die again I can almost match which re animated character that'll be paired with each shinobi!!

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Nov 21, 2013 9:59 PM

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Danzo was such a damn asshole. I'm so glad he died, and not in a nice way as well. I hope this stupid Foundation will stop to exist.

And I'm glad Shin's soul found peace after seeing Sai's drawing.
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This was epic:



Really awesome episode. Edo Tensei suddently seems weak but I guess this won't happen with the rest of the "reborn" characters; I mean, there's no time for such sentimental and touching things like these when the "real" war goes down... Loved it though *.*

Now akatsuki has no Ambush/Comando squad and the Shinobi Forces' squad can proceed with their ambush.

So, Kabuto lured Anko and the rest of the team to Akatsuki's hideout just to capture Anko? Well, if he wants to use her in some research or such that kinda makes sense but... well, it's just weird to have all that work just to capture her... Oh, and Kabuto's plan (according to Madara's thoughts) is to make Akatsuki and the Shinobi forces destroy each other? Hum, I wonder what would Kabuto achieve with that....
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