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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Damn that fight didnt last long, zoro's new skill was pretty awesome But the highlight of this episode was definitely the conclusion where Pagaya and Conis found out about the Enel's true goal to eradicate the entire sky island send it down to the sea. I want to know where the Gold Bell and the Arc comes into play in all this though. |
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| Nuuuuu, not Pagaya. ;______; He's an awesome guy, stupid Enel. :< |
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
| Has anyone noticed that a lot of the Zoro action in this arc is pretty lame? It's not that intense, and his new moves don't leave much of an impact. They have a cool symbol, but it's all kinda 'meh', especially compared to his other fights in the series. Anyway, I want to know more about Enel. His reasons are still unkown...reminds me of Arlong. Arlong always looked bored and I'm sure he would have enjoyed himself a lot more out on the sea, but I'm still waiting for that idea to be revisited (if it ever will). And poor Pagaya. That man was probably the calmest and most peaceful man I have seen. |
| shit the old dude died... 4/5 |
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| enel is BA....luffy needs to fight....zolo ya needs to get less distracted |
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Rasco said: enel is BA....luffy needs to fight....zolo ya needs to get less distracted It's not Zolo, its zoro. |
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| "NAMI SNAP OUT OF IT!" |
| okay that was one fast fight with zoro haha just one move and it's finished! sidetrack.. when luffy noticed the bones of "nami" he reached for the chest! niceeee! XD |
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-Celestial- said: Has anyone noticed that a lot of the Zoro action in this arc is pretty lame? It's not that intense, and his new moves don't leave much of an impact. They have a cool symbol, but it's all kinda 'meh', especially compared to his other fights in the series. Anyway, I want to know more about Enel. His reasons are still unkown...reminds me of Arlong. Arlong always looked bored and I'm sure he would have enjoyed himself a lot more out on the sea, but I'm still waiting for that idea to be revisited (if it ever will). And poor Pagaya. That man was probably the calmest and most peaceful man I have seen. I actually thought Zoro's fight before this was pretty cool, but I do kind of agree with this episodes battle. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Goes to show how really strong Zoro is when he goes into THREE SWORDS MODO. He's no pushover. An ark that can fly in the sky? Fucking awesome. Cant wait to see that |
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| aisa's a brat. starts crying about the pain of hearing voices stop and then tries to stab a defenseless old man. /whatever |
| I wonder how long this "8 minutes" will be. -Celestial- said: Has anyone noticed that a lot of the Zoro action in this arc is pretty lame? It's not that intense, and his new moves don't leave much of an impact. They have a cool symbol, but it's all kinda 'meh', especially compared to his other fights in the series. Yeah I noticed that Zoro's fights go like this, get beat up the whole time then just pull a special move out of no where to kill your opponent. But he's still BA so it's alright |
| FUCK AISA AND FUCK THAT BITCH THAT KEEPS CALLING ZORO "ZOLO" |
| What an anticlimax with Zoro vs Ohm. And wait God can hear everyone now? I thought he could only track their movements, there have been many other instances where they were talking shit about him. |
GodotCoffee said: Yea i thought their Mantra can hear a person's existence and movement. But sometimes they can use to read mind and hear what people are talking from a distance, they need to explain Mantra more clearly. And how they will lose control of their Mantra...the priest all lose their fight because they lose control of their mantra, but never explain why and how.. And wait God can hear everyone now? I thought he could only track their movements, there have been many other instances where they were talking shit about him. |
| I think the priests lose control of their Mantra when they face a prediction that they don't accept as real or plausible. For example in this episode the last thing that Ohm expected was that Zoro stood still when he gets attacked, not trying to evade his iron cloud sword but actually leaving everything to chance. In the same way the rest of the priests were defeated: those who were fighting with them exposed themselves to serious damage while attacking, they actually took a lot of it. Luffy was on the same explosion range than Satori. For Chopper defeating Gedatsu implied exposing himself to his enemy's attack. And the same happened with Shura and Wiper. I agree though that the battle was a little anticlimactic, and I personally don't like thiose new distance abilities of Zoro. They may be cool-looking and all, but Zoro has a specific fighting style and this is defying it. Also, Enel is the ultimate asshole. |
jal90Oct 24, 2012 3:05 PM
| So zoro can shoot energy blasts out of his swords now? Lol |
| I don't really understand Zoro's new move, but it works I guess so that 's pretty swell. I think Enel's plan to eliminate everyone is pretty damn stupid. And it's so awful how pagaya died at the end! He definitely didn't deserve it... |
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| Pagaya died :( The new skill that Zoro used, its awesome :D |
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| Badass Zoro, OMG Pagaya! |
| And Pagaya was such a nice guy. |
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| The old duuuuuude ;-; |
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GodotCoffee said: What an anticlimax with Zoro vs Ohm. And wait God can hear everyone now? I thought he could only track their movements, there have been many other instances where they were talking shit about him. Anticlimactic indeed. I'm starting not to like Zoro's battles. He's more of a tank than luffy, and he always has a new move. IMO it's not fun to watch Zoro's new moves. They're just some made up slices that 1 hit ko. (comparibly, it is fun watching chopper/Luffy/Robin/even Nami make new moves because they actually have visibly different properties) As for God's senses, I think he noticed them because they mentioned his name. The moment they said "Enel", the screen panned to showing Enel's face before he attacked from the sky. |
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| I disagree with pretty much everyone here on Zoro in this arc. In fact, I feel like he's been "tanking" a lot less than usual given how little he's actually getting hurt. It's just that rather than being the charging bull he was before, he's maturing as a swordsman and focusing more on technique. I think his new techniques are an extension of his breakthrough in Alabasta. I don't think "cutting the air" or creating a shockwave through it is any less realistic than the other superhuman abilities in the series: If it furthers his development, it's good, and I do believe this is furthering Zoro's development as a swordsman. What? Are we now complaining that there isn't enough (action) fanservice? Zoro has basically used every battle in Skypiea as a training session. I think it's commendable. |
| Zoros fight was poorly animated. Looks like I'm going to have to go rewatch Bleach to watch a good sword fight |
| Hope this arc is slowly coming to an end |
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| One Piece is doing one of the things it does best, making villains unlikable asshat's. |
| Like I said earlier, Pagaya might be alive later on just because we know how Oda is with killing characters that have names and personalities haha. Sumimasen~ |
| Good job Zoro!! Next one is Enel |
| Aw no, poor talking-beard sorry man |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| Zoro just keeps getting better and better man |
| “I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy |
| Seems Aisa is too stupid to know that the only reason she's alive is because she keeps getting saved by these non-shandians... That was a big deathflag on the old dude but I wouldn't doubt if he survived since Pell didn't get killed by a freaking mini nuke. |
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| Well, I don't expect anyone in this show to stay dead anyway, so... |
| Yeah, it's not really feasible to expect Zoro to only be a close range fighter. Doubt he could get very far if that's all it was. Honestly, though, I think I've enjoyed his evolution as a fighter a lot more this time around. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Zoro's fights have been disappointing, even going back to his fight with Mr.1 but that one was so rule of cool it was negligible. However, the fact he randomly got this ranged move is actually worse than when Nami pulled out her staff, to fight the spiky girl, that we had never even heard of before. I adore Zoro vs Mihawk, and Zoro vs Hachi, and Zoro's brief encounter with Arlong. Why? Because they are so telling! Zoro's fights were always a statement on who he is as a person. When he fought Cabaji he allowed himself to get hurt so he could prove to himself and to Cabaji that even when wounded he is the better swordsman. His fight with Mihawk showed how intense his dream is, as well as how willing to die he is to maintain his pride as a swordsman with one of the two best moments in the series yet. His fight with Hachi had to do with him showing his philosophy that the 'weight' the sword, aka what you're fighting for is what matters, and the number or type of sword does not. With Arlong despite him losing, we had one of my favorite moments in the series where Arlong saw the wound that Zoro took in his fight with Mihawk and was visibly shaken to the point of fear, wanting to kill him right away before he has a chance to come at him at full strength one day. His fights were incredible, and Mr.1's was slightly anti-climactic but it was a point of learning for Zoro, a time for him to focus on technique rather than raw endurance and strength. For that it's forgivable. With Brahman and Ohm we had Zoro losing for the entire fight and then pulling out his plot device air slash to win at the last second. This goes to show just how weak the fights are in this arc yet again. Robbin vs Yama was probably my favorite and that was solely a showing of how incredibly brutal and cool Robbin is, nothing more. I've noticed Zoro has been non lethally taking many people out. Perhaps he's always done that, but we can't chop it up to him not wanting to hurt people who aren't trying to kill him because he even punched out a divine soldier this time who definitely had the intent to kill. It was notable in Whiskey Peak when he intentionally didn't cut the lady and the child assassin and that's why seeing him punch so much recently is shocking. Did he learn from Luffy to not mercilessly beat all the small fries in the world, or am I just making this up myself? Who knows. The mantra is such an unexplored idea. Satori and Gedatsu dropped theirs themselves if I can recall, and Ohm didn't think Zoro's slash could beat his sword but since Zoro did a stronger one this time or something like that it did. Maybe we'll get more of an explanation, it certainly looked like Wyper beat Shura by tricking him so we may actually understand better as it goes on, but it's another anti-climactic concept Skypiea brings to the table. We had a Luffy moment where he stopped Aisa from killing Gan Fall and it was a good one, but I felt like I've seen it before. Luffy observed carefully, put on his hat, and dropped a truth bomb to make someone realize what they themselves were trying not to. Alike when Luffy got in a fight with Vivi or the countless other times he's done this. What it also revealed was an implication that Gan Fall's pumpkin field is a form of remembrance for the fallen Shandians! That's meaningful and somewhat accounts for when he told Wyper 'pumpkin juice' or whatever. I take it that pumpkins are something from the blue sea that he perhaps got from the pirate he once met, and in turn that's why they're the imagery for remembrance of Shandians. A fruit from their homeland. I made a prediction that the 'voices of the island' would play once Eneru was defeated and knowing that it was from the bell itself that made that noise I have to assume I was right and that it will occur more than ever. Pagaya pushes Conis to save her and die himself. That was powerful, and from what I know Pell actually died in the manga so hopefully we don't have any cheesy anime only stuff this time. Eneru supposedly wants to kill all of Skypiea and send it down to the blue sea. He's even made an ark to allow few to survive with him. |
gfsdfgsdgsdfgs said: Pell actually died in the manga so hopefully we don't have any cheesy anime only stuff this time. Nope, he tanked the nuke there too. |
SuperRed said: Nope, he tanked the nuke there too. Darn. I wish the rumor I heard was true because it made me way less harsh on my future predictions and kept my respect for Oda's writing abilities that much higher. Thanks for the heads up. The fact he survived was so outrageous that I just accepted hearing that he actually died in the manga at face value. |
| My man got strucked hard yo,see a few minutes before he got strucked he said what he wanted like basically bring peace to everyone in the sky and what not,but good thing that he pushed her or she would have gotten struck,damn man this Enel dude has really gone to bringing everyone down you know what I mean,it's gonna be hardly anyone left. It's gonna have to be Luffy that fights him Idk but it's gotta be Luffy that defeats him. That thunder hit him hard tho,you know what I mean no way he's surviving that. |
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| Well, if getting beaten up really bad makes Zoro learn a new move, they should stop trying to hit him. I wish that the outcome of the fight would've been less abrupt and more clever than that. Aisa's a small brain for even attempting to kill Gan Fall at a situation like that. Luffy should've socked her in the head for her little stunt there. Pagaya getting struck by the wrath of the thunder god hit me hard, damn. There's a part of me that believes that it's impossible for him to survive that attack and it's more solemn that way but Pell's still alive so yeah... |
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gfsdfgsdgsdfgs said: SuperRed said: Nope, he tanked the nuke there too. Darn. I wish the rumor I heard was true because it made me way less harsh on my future predictions and kept my respect for Oda's writing abilities that much higher. Thanks for the heads up. The fact he survived was so outrageous that I just accepted hearing that he actually died in the manga at face value. I also hate the fact that Pell survived a lot...it was such a beautiful moment when he sacrificed himself in Alabasta so that the nuke could detonate. I was very disappointed in Oda that he chose to let Pell live. I hope just for the sake of realness that Pagaya is really dead. But I have my doubts, because it looks like Oda has strugles with killing off characters... |
| Zoro's new skill is awesome. |
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| Zoro has a new skill now! |
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| You know... Seeing how all these people (even Sanji and Usopp) all fried up-- I believe they'll be fine. No one really dies, remember? xD!! I'm done with these fake deaths LOL... |
| Lol at Luffy thinking the skeleton was Nami xD And the way he stopped Aisa from attacking Gan Fall was cool asf.. Love how he can be really silly one minute then ultra cool and serious when he needs to be. Zoro vs Ohm turned out to be quite underwhelming. All that build up for a one slash KO. So now we know what Eneru is really up to. Shit just got real.. |
| Zoro did it. God Enel want to did what??? NOOO NOT PAGAYA... |
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| Ohm's sword attacks are pretty cool! Well, real plans are revealed. No way is Pagaya dead. :( |
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