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Jun 25, 2019 7:35 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Oh boy, the secret of Ryuzoji getting revealed...now that's a revelation.

This arc may actually be my favorite so far in the series. That mysterious device they've been using seems to have great risks. Eriko in that battle outfit though.
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Jun 25, 2019 8:39 AM
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So Ryuzoji has been possessed by some sort of a dimensional being and is after the Reflector Device.

Takuya needs one more jewel.

Jun 25, 2019 8:51 AM
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Great episode,the only thing that i didnt like was the fact that Ryuzoji and Mitsuki had Takuya tied up and they didnt think to check his pockets......
well that's just my opinion.....
Jun 25, 2019 8:52 AM
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This episode had a lot of Steins Gate references(at least for me):
The "fate" (Mitsuki death) like the attractor and the "new path" like the Steins Gate timeline.
This show is getting weirder and weirder but now it starts making sense.
I hope Kanna reveals something mindblowing in the next episode.
Jun 25, 2019 8:59 AM
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Hoo boy, Ryuzoji's a dangerous man. Unfortunately, Mitsuki's mind-control made things even worse for Takuya.

To restart, is the ONLY option for Takuya. And with Eriko-sensei's help, the revelation of Ryuzoji and his conquest to snatch the device from Takuya, is all but a soul's work whilst Ryuzoji in physical form.

So that aforementioned tree in the ED, an aide of Ryuzoji (Abel) was working on it, but somehow an eternal dimensional criminal being spawned in the process, and followed into the human and parallel world.

Plus, Ryuzoji's house is FULL of secrets to be found, starting with the weird device. And definitely even more weirder to see Eriko-sensei in battle gear. As one moves (Eriko) and the other sacrifices (Mitsuki), and Takuya being the protagonist, always can't fathom his actions, but hopefully he bucks up in the future.

Overall, Eriko's arc was definitely one of the strongest showings, even if it seems confusing in the beginning, to all come to the picture that the game of fate is truly game-changing and inevitable.

And so, Takuya goes through Round 2 of the chaos correction, with his dad telling him the next step with the "mysterious" Kanna, and the completion of the Reflector Device's 8 jewels.

Great episode, finally. Time to see how the director himself advertises Kanna's "even more" mysterious figure, next week.
Jun 25, 2019 9:37 AM
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Farmaceut said:
Great episode,the only thing that i didnt like was the fact that Ryuzoji and Mitsuki had Takuya tied up and they didnt think to check his pockets......
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They couldn't spend a couple seconds to check his pockets before tying him up?
Would've been easy plothole to fix: Ryuuzouji tells her to search his pockets, but she can muster just enough resistance to pretend not to find it. In fact, you can assume that's what happened before Takuya came to.
Jun 25, 2019 9:55 AM
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next week we finally start with Kanna's arc for the last jewel and Eriko sensei looking hot in that battle suit
Jun 25, 2019 10:32 AM
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If Takuya needs Kana to guide him, then why the hell didn't his dad tell him about that the very first time his reality was reset?

So apparently he can take objects with him as his reality sets, since he took the new gem with him after the reset.

What was the point of dismembering Abel's body, leaving the torso in one spot and taking the arms, legs and head and hiding them at the mansion?

What was the point of erasing Takuya's memory of Eriko and the fake Ryuzoji? She said "if he thinks you know who he is, he will come after you", but he has been coming after Takuya from the very start, because Takuya has the reflector device, and still does. Knowing what fake Ryuzoji is would actually be a benefit, not a hindrance.

Also, I am not sure why Takuya even listened to a word Eriko had to say about fate, he already proved to himself that he can in fact break fate when he saved Ayumi. This seems like another case of trying to cram different routes of the VN together without worrying about how you are causing plot holes.

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And so, Takuya goes through Round 2 of the chaos correction, with his dad telling him the next step with the "mysterious" Kanna, and the completion of the Reflector Device's 8 jewels.

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actually it is his third reset.

He reset after preventing Ayumi's suicide and getting Kaori and what's his face arrested

He reset after getting Miyo out of the mountain and when Mitsuki shot herself

He is resetting again after Mitsuki got shot and died after confronting fake Ryuzoji
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If Takuya needs Kana to guide him, then why the hell didn't his dad tell him about that the very first time his reality was reset?

So apparently he can take objects with him as his reality sets, since he took the new gem with him after the reset.

What was the point of dismembering Abel's body, leaving the torso in one spot and taking the arms, legs and head and hiding them at the mansion?

What was the point of erasing Takuya's memory of Eriko and the fake Ryuzoji? She said "if he thinks you know who he is, he will come after you", but he has been coming after Takuya from the very start, because Takuya has the reflector device, and still does. Knowing what fake Ryuzoji is would actually be a benefit, not a hindrance.

Also, I am not sure why Takuya even listened to a word Eriko had to say about fate, he already proved to himself that he can in fact break fate when he saved Ayumi. This seems like another case of trying to cram different routes of the VN together without worrying about how you are causing plot holes.

KANLen09 said:

And so, Takuya goes through Round 2 of the chaos correction, with his dad telling him the next step with the "mysterious" Kanna, and the completion of the Reflector Device's 8 jewels.

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actually it is his third reset.

He reset after preventing Ayumi's suicide and getting Kaori and what's his face arrested

He reset after getting Miyo out of the mountain and when Mitsuki shot herself

He is resetting again after Mitsuki got shot and died after confronting fake Ryuzoji


Whoops thanks for the lookout. Apparently it's gonna have a lot of uses now.
Jun 25, 2019 10:42 AM
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HOOfan_1 said:
If Takuya needs Kana to guide him, then why the hell didn't his dad tell him about that the very first time his reality was reset?
Probably because she does not know everything? Takuya needed to collect the jewels and she wouldn't have been much help in that.

So apparently he can take objects with him as his reality sets, since he took the new gem with him after the reset.
This was established in episode 2.

What was the point of erasing Takuya's memory of Eriko and the fake Ryuzoji? She said "if he thinks you know who he is, he will come after you", but he has been coming after Takuya from the very start, because Takuya has the reflector device, and still does. Knowing what fake Ryuzoji is would actually be a benefit, not a hindrance.
Stupid adaptation change. Originally the reveal was much much much much much much later, and they changed it for whatever reason.
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HOOfan_1 said:
If Takuya needs Kana to guide him, then why the hell didn't his dad tell him about that the very first time his reality was reset?

Kanna is only able to help him with the information he knows now - she's like the final piece to the puzzle that isn't much use when you still have to find and organize all of the puzzle pieces at the beginning.


HOOfan_1 said:
So apparently he can take objects with him as his reality sets, since he took the new gem with him after the reset.

This has actually been known since the beginning, ever since he did the original experiment with the reflector device and the soda can on the school roof.

HOOfan_1 said:
What was the point of erasing Takuya's memory of Eriko and the fake Ryuzoji? She said "if he thinks you know who he is, he will come after you", but he has been coming after Takuya from the very start, because Takuya has the reflector device, and still does. Knowing what fake Ryuzoji is would actually be a benefit, not a hindrance.

While Ryuuzouji was coming after Takuya before, he was mainly pressing him on the Reflector Device and trying to determine if Takuya had it. Remember, all Ryuuzouji wanted from Takuya was the Reflector Device.

If Ryuuzouji found out that Takuya knew the truth about him, he wouldn't just take the Reflector Device from him - he'd outright murder Takuya to prevent the secret from being leaked.

HOOfan_1 said:

Also, I am not sure why Takuya even listened to a word Eriko had to say about fate, he already proved to himself that he can in fact break fate when he saved Ayumi. This seems like another case of trying to cram different routes of the VN together without worrying about how you are causing plot holes.

They couldn't save Mitsuki no matter how hard they tried. Saving Ayumi was a miracle and an anomaly. Furthermore, preventing Ayumi's death was a lot simpler because all Takuya had to do was stop her from killing her own self. All of Mitsuki's deaths have been way more complicated than just suicide. Basically, while Takuya was able to find the one worldline where Ayumi could be saved, saving Mitsuki was just too impossible because of all the variables and other people involved in and surrounding her death.

That's what Eriko meant by "the flux in the event potential is too high".
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Jun 25, 2019 11:04 AM

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it's getting more and more interesting

the funny thing is when Eriko wearing skimpy outfit, suddenly changed to battle suit that cover more part of her body

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Jun 25, 2019 12:33 PM

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The soundtrack used here was real good. Some pretty silly sci-fi stuff happened in Eriko's flashback, but at least it was colorful and exciting. The poorly placed fanservice is still quite distracting, thankfully this episode was more conservative with it than the last. When Eriko ripped off her dress (with very little cloth as it was) to reveal a space ninja suit I lost it. I guess she happens to have a Men in Black memory eraser too. She thinks it is Mitsuki's fate to die, ok then.

This show is still providing the wacky twists, and the story is now at about the quality of an average YA sci-fi novel.
Jun 25, 2019 1:44 PM
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legit better than stein's gate, why isn't this show getting any love?
Jun 25, 2019 2:30 PM

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legit better than stein's gate, why isn't this show getting any love?


Gonna be real here...

I love the YU-NO visual novel. And while I do think this adaptation is exceeding my expectations, the quality of the animation is nowhere near the level of the Steins;Gate adaptation.

Art, characterization, story development are all done well, but the animation department is seriously lacking.
Jun 25, 2019 4:31 PM
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Eriko having more clothes on after ripping her clothes off is the pinnacle of anime quantum physics.
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Hmm. Seems like the anime is taking some unnecessary shortcuts, needlessly simplifying the plot by doing that. This episode was mostly anime original, I mean similiar things happened even in the novel but the execution of all this was very different.

They made it seem like Ryouzouji has some superpowers, while in the reality that wasn't the case, he only had his Niarb. Instead things clicking into the place they made everything needlessly convoluted (like with the headless body which was made that way just to prevent identification). And I really have to facepalm when Eriko throw away her clothes only to show her armor which I really don't know how she hid it underneath.

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Art, characterization, story development are all done well, but the animation department is seriously lacking.
I beg to differ, I actually like the animation and I honestly got used to new character designs but I think the main problem of this show is lackluster direction. It isn't too bad as some episodes were quite good (the last one, 5th, 8th and 11th) but other times they needlessly invent things that wasn't needed (like some anime-only Takuya's jokes or insertion of scenes from elsewhere) and other times they think they know better than the original writers which is a big problem and it creates micro plot holes, illogical situations or pacing issues. And due all of that Takuya developement suffers.
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Laukku said:
HOOfan_1 said:

So apparently he can take objects with him as his reality sets, since he took the new gem with him after the reset.
This was established in episode 2.

ycleped said:


HOOfan_1 said:
So apparently he can take objects with him as his reality sets, since he took the new gem with him after the reset.

This has actually been known since the beginning, ever since he did the original experiment with the reflector device and the soda can on the school roof.


That was using the reflector device of his own accord, not an involuntary chaos reset. The show seems to have indicated the two are different. His father even said he would go back where he began.

Although I just re-watched episode 11 dubbed and remember he found a gem there to and took it with him, obviously Kanna's necklace is the last gem
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Jun 25, 2019 8:36 PM
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love this episode, as more revelations are coming... kanna chan is the next one. lets see what path she will opened up to him
Jun 25, 2019 10:56 PM
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Ik this doesn't have anything to do with the episode but ive been wondering this since forever. Is Kanna a prostitute?
Jun 26, 2019 5:16 AM

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Damn man, that was quite a very surprising revelation... I always took this show as a supernatural / mystery one but they added sci-fi stuff ! Eriko coming from the future, chasing a dimensional criminal who was able to possess bodies & move through worlds, wow.

I never get bored of this anime, I even think that none episode was boring. More revelations and mysteries showed up each week, good part being that they get answered progressively. Can't wait to discover more about Kanna's story.
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ycleped said:
elementex said:
legit better than stein's gate, why isn't this show getting any love?


Gonna be real here...

I love the YU-NO visual novel. And while I do think this adaptation is exceeding my expectations, the quality of the animation is nowhere near the level of the Steins;Gate adaptation.

Art, characterization, story development are all done well, but the animation department is seriously lacking.


Eh it’s good enough, the story is what matters. Animation doesn’t need to be great in an anime like this
Jun 26, 2019 7:43 AM

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I like the development of the plot a lot, but I feel like the directing is lackluster and most moments don't make me feel much.

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Jun 26, 2019 3:07 PM
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god damn are the women fine as fuck in this show XD
Jun 26, 2019 8:54 PM
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Mich666 said:


And I really have to facepalm when Eriko throw away her clothes only to show her armor which I really don't know how she hid it underneath.


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Eriko having more clothes on after ripping her clothes off is the pinnacle of anime quantum physics.


Yah that part was hilarious, until she created her eyewear so the armor under her dress actually makes sense.
Jun 27, 2019 4:03 AM

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oh man! this has gone Men in Black flash memory eraser!
Takuya: Now Kanna Hatano, Tell me all about you! even the color of your panties! lolz!


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This story is very particular, I like it
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Laukku said:
Would've been easy plothole to fix: Ryuuzouji tells her to search his pockets, but she can muster just enough resistance to pretend not to find it. In fact, you can assume that's what happened before Takuya came to.
Musing more on this, if you assume that when Takuya jumps dimensions a copy of him and the RD remains, him "escaping" is completely irrelevant to Ryuuzouji because another version of Takuya would still be stuck as his prisoner. In the game, this is implied in Kaori's route, another Takuya supposedly taking his place when he leaves a dimension. However, the empty elevator in episode 5 implies otherwise - that Takuya does disappear when time traveling.
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MasterCastro said:
This episode had a lot of Steins Gate references(at least for me):
The "fate" (Mitsuki death) like the attractor and the "new path" like the Steins Gate timeline.
This show is getting weirder and weirder but now it starts making sense.
I hope Kanna reveals something mindblowing in the next episode.


Actually, it's Steins Gate that got heavily inspired by the visual novel of this
They all feel the same adjust to the pain..like tears in the rain..

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Laukku said:
Laukku said:
Would've been easy plothole to fix: Ryuuzouji tells her to search his pockets, but she can muster just enough resistance to pretend not to find it. In fact, you can assume that's what happened before Takuya came to.
Musing more on this, if you assume that when Takuya jumps dimensions a copy of him and the RD remains, him "escaping" is completely irrelevant to Ryuuzouji because another version of Takuya would still be stuck as his prisoner. In the game, this is implied in Kaori's route, another Takuya supposedly taking his place when he leaves a dimension. However, the empty elevator in episode 5 implies otherwise - that Takuya does disappear when time traveling.


Makes me wonder if maybe another Takuya wakes up at Sword Cape like he does during the chaos correction, complete with the headache and all.

Like he could still just gets replaced, just with a Takuya that's just waking up elsewhere.
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MasterCastro said:
This episode had a lot of Steins Gate references(at least for me):
The "fate" (Mitsuki death) like the attractor and the "new path" like the Steins Gate timeline.
This show is getting weirder and weirder but now it starts making sense.
I hope Kanna reveals something mindblowing in the next episode.


Actually, it's Steins Gate that got heavily inspired by the visual novel of this


THAT was unexpected.
Thanks for the info :D
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Wlep, that's it for Mitsuki, and Eriko, well as expected she from another dimension, from the future that is, but which dimension?????
And now we know that Ryuuzouji was posses by an extra dimensional criminal that first posses Abel

Next the Kanna arc.

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Wlep, that's it for Mitsuki, and Eriko, well as expected she from another dimension, from the future that is, but which dimension?????
And now we know that Ryuuzouji was posses by an extra dimensional criminal that first posses Abel

Next the Kanna arc.


Wrong,

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JiangHaoyi1979 said:
Wlep, that's it for Mitsuki, and Eriko, well as expected she from another dimension, from the future that is, but which dimension?????
And now we know that Ryuuzouji was posses by an extra dimensional criminal that first posses Abel

Next the Kanna arc.


Wrong,




The anime has skipped several jewels, I think, but in the VN
even though the one you mentioned chronologically has to be the last one in the VN. It's a little disappointing that they've cut out so much of the less plot-essential content. Especially the nonogram puzzle in Mio's route, that was dope.
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ycleped said:

Wrong,




The anime has skipped several jewels, I think, but in the VN
even though the one you mentioned chronologically has to be the last one in the VN. It's a little disappointing that they've cut out so much of the less plot-essential content. Especially the nonogram puzzle in Mio's route, that was dope.


No, this is incorrect. I've read the visual novel, and even in the visual novel,

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ycleped said:
Skelig said:



The anime has skipped several jewels, I think, but in the VN
even though the one you mentioned chronologically has to be the last one in the VN. It's a little disappointing that they've cut out so much of the less plot-essential content. Especially the nonogram puzzle in Mio's route, that was dope.


No, this is incorrect. I've read the visual novel, and even in the visual novel,



Right. My bad, it's been a few years since I last read the VN. Now I'm left trying to remember
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I've been half asleep watching every single episode of this anime but the future stuff with generic teacher waifu #1 was pretty cool.
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Skelig said:
ycleped said:


No, this is incorrect. I've read the visual novel, and even in the visual novel,



Right. My bad, it's been a few years since I last read the VN. Now I'm left trying to remember
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Man this anime is so bad. It's worse than Nobunaga's young bride. Thankfully that one ended.
I kinda want to drop this but I've never dropped an anime, so I'll just have to endure it for another cour.
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Man this anime is so bad. It's worse than Nobunaga's young bride. Thankfully that one ended.
I kinda want to drop this but I've never dropped an anime, so I'll just have to endure it for another cour.

Man, your taste in anime is so bad. It's worse than Digibro's.
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ycleped said:
JiangHaoyi1979 said:
Wlep, that's it for Mitsuki, and Eriko, well as expected she from another dimension, from the future that is, but which dimension?????
And now we know that Ryuuzouji was posses by an extra dimensional criminal that first posses Abel

Next the Kanna arc.


Wrong,



Hey buddy, ep 14 is out and guess what, Kanna has the stone.....you're saying?????
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Wrong,



Hey buddy, ep 14 is out and guess what, Kanna has the stone.....you're saying?????


You're still wrong. You'll see soon. She has "a stone", but it doesn't mean that it's the last jewel.
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JiangHaoyi1979 said:


Hey buddy, ep 14 is out and guess what, Kanna has the stone.....you're saying?????


You're still wrong. You'll see soon. She has "a stone", but it doesn't mean that it's the last jewel.
Yeah yeah, Ur jaz making excuse cu'z you can't amid that ur wrong. hehehehe
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JiangHaoyi1979 said:
ycleped said:

Wrong,



Hey buddy, ep 14 is out and guess what, Kanna has the stone.....you're saying?????
In the original game, Kanna's jewel had a more polytope-like shape, clearly different from the round jewels you collect.

For whatever reason, it was made more spherical in the remake and subsequently anime.
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Man this anime is so bad. It's worse than Nobunaga's young bride. Thankfully that one ended.
I kinda want to drop this but I've never dropped an anime, so I'll just have to endure it for another cour.


I agree. I expected (hoped) it to get better but now i don't think it'll happen anymore lol. Someone told me that by the end this would be in the top 100 anime of MAL and now i can safely say that this possibility is laughable and impossible
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JiangHaoyi1979 said:


Hey buddy, ep 14 is out and guess what, Kanna has the stone.....you're saying?????
In the original game, Kanna's jewel had a more polytope-like shape, clearly different from the round jewels you collect.

For whatever reason, it was made more spherical in the remake and subsequently anime.
Oh shut up, cu'z like the hentai, it actually doesn't represent the current anime.
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Laukku said:
In the original game, Kanna's jewel had a more polytope-like shape, clearly different from the round jewels you collect.

For whatever reason, it was made more spherical in the remake and subsequently anime.
Oh shut up, cu'z like the hentai, it actually doesn't represent the current anime.


We'll see who's right soon. And when it's me, promise you'll never comment on these threads again.
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JiangHaoyi1979 said:
Oh shut up, cu'z like the hentai, it actually doesn't represent the current anime.


We'll see who's right soon. And when it's me, promise you'll never comment on these threads again.
Like I care, tch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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We'll see who's right soon. And when it's me, promise you'll never comment on these threads again.
Like I care, tch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You seem to care enough to keep responding!!! And you're still wrong!!!!!
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Got damn! This is crazy. Wow! Who would say that Eriko would have such an important role in all this. My head will explode with all these shocking statements. Eternal dimensional criminal? Dimensional Inspector? Does the Tree Provide? Space of events? Future? Forced review of causality? Correction of chaos? WHAT? Damn! And how do you kill a dimensional being? There are so many questions, but in a certain way I am beginning to understand the events, although it is somewhat difficult to keep up with the rhythm 😅. In truth, this aniyme makes merit to the genre of Science Fiction.

Actually, Mitsuki's death was sad. When she said "I ... I've always loved you", ah! How sad: 'v. What happened between her and Takuya? Ray! I hope they reveal it soon. I curse you fate !.

Now it's Kanna's turn, just missing the gem found on her necklace to complete the 8 gems. As it has been shown in previous episodes, that girl is something inaccessible. Takuya will not have it easy. I think she comes from another world ... A crazy hypothesis, would be the fact that she was his sister, and I do not say it because of the blue hair ... well yes 😅. It is not so crazy, thinking everything that this anime has shown us.

PS: Where did you get your Eriko space suit? The magic of anime. And that scene taken from the "Men in Black", I mean to erase the memory with a flash of light, LOL 😂.
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