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Dec 17, 2016 4:27 PM
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Well this sure was interesting for Goku and the others but I have a feeling they're going to need more than just powering up. This new arc is starting to intrigue me a bit more with Hit entering the story.

He became one of my favorite antagonists from one of the previous arcs. I'm kinda surprised how strong he's became now.
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Dec 17, 2016 4:32 PM
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Man fuck toei for that shitty animation
Dec 17, 2016 4:55 PM
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It'll be so interesting to see how Goku will face Hit without using Kaio Ken! He's died twice before and being dead in the tournament won't really matter I guess... Do you think he'll die soon?
Dec 17, 2016 6:06 PM
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An episode mostly told in flashback. Goku's dead again, but it doesn't look like for very long. Try again Hit! XD
Dec 17, 2016 6:12 PM
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He's dead again, and it's the first time he doesn't even "Hit" his opponent.
Dec 17, 2016 6:18 PM
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Turtles_Leader said:
Husseinala00 said:
Man fuck toei for that shitty animation

And have you watched the 72 preview. Man, it's gonna be awful.


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Dec 17, 2016 6:26 PM
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"This new arc is starting to intrigue me a bit more"
It's not a arc, it's filler that ends in the next episode. Non of this will be in the manga.

Also - can we have Spin-off series with Hit as a antihero? Couse his world seems pretty interesting and Hit himself is a great character.
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Dec 17, 2016 7:00 PM
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Hit Froze Time. The battle starts next week.
Dec 17, 2016 7:54 PM
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The animation wasn't bad lately but I'm impressed on how badly it was done in this one. Unfortunately, the next ep goes through the same problem lol

Other than that, it seems the whole episode was a flashback of next episode (a weird thing). Goku's death is not, well... a surprise. To be honest, deaths (besides villains) aren't surprising anymore xD The only new thing is that Hit has a newer technique seemingly.
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Dec 17, 2016 8:10 PM
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So Hit's technique is sort of like Guldo's?
Seems like a pretty OP technique. It wasn't a bad episode, if anything I've been wanting to see how Hit does his assassinations.

LOL at Picollo. The guy went from wanting to kill Goku to being Pan's uncle, to playing baseball and now he's Gohan's BBQ man. It would have been hilarious if he was wearing chef clothes.

Vegeta got a bit of screen time. You could tell Vegeta was ticked off when Beerus said Goku is the team leader. If Goku slacks off then Zeno will get mad. I don't blame Vegeta for feeling that way.

Hmm that preview though.
Hit stronger than Goku??

Dec 17, 2016 8:23 PM

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I liked how they made such a big deal that Goku Died... I mean he had died so many times...it is now obvious he may die sooner than later...plus with the existence of Dragon balls he seems immortal to me ....Lol
Dec 17, 2016 8:37 PM

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What the heck is up with characters gaining new powers out of nowhere in this show? =P

Not that long ago, Goku and Hit could fight on even terms, now Hit's got a new ability that allows him to dodge every attack and kill Goku in one punch?

So much about this show makes no sense to me lol.
Dec 17, 2016 8:53 PM

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What the heck is up with characters gaining new powers out of nowhere in this show? =P

Not that long ago, Goku and Hit could fight on even terms, now Hit's got a new ability that allows him to dodge every attack and kill Goku in one punch?

So much about this show makes no sense to me lol.


Nah, this one was established like 35 episodes ago. It was said that Hit wasn't fighting seriously, couse he couldn't use all of his letal attacks, Goku surrenders becouse of that, he wanted proper fight. His main attacks are letal, all those time stuff are only tools. In first fight he had to convert his tool to main weapon. So this time it isin't out of nothing.

It says alot about Hit 35 episode ago (1 year in Anime) that even then vs Goku Kaioken x10 he won this fight (Goku said that he would loose either way, he couldn't fight anymore, were Hit was in good shape) and yet Hit was holding back.

So the real problem will be in the next episode, couse if Goku wins, it will be meh.
Draw or some slight upper hand would be better.
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Hit got a new ability! Goki is dead again!
Dec 17, 2016 9:34 PM

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the new ability of Hit is a mystery but im sure its still time manipulation thing

Goku dead again, welp time for the Dragon Balls to revive him again next episode
Dec 17, 2016 9:35 PM

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This feels like a complete different feels this episode and i love it.
I think may be they send Hit to train Goku. But anyway Hit was awesome as always :)
Dec 17, 2016 10:01 PM

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Goku is dead? Think again. XD
Well, even if he does die we know he'll be revived with the dragonballs. :P

The facial animation for the next episode looked terrible. :|
Dec 17, 2016 10:55 PM

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well they still have like a week to fix the NEP animation for the next ep
Dec 17, 2016 10:57 PM

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I knew it, this saga was another filler saga like Copy Vegeta s***.
Dec 17, 2016 11:04 PM
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Ulquiorra said:
He's dead again, and it's the first time he doesn't even "Hit" his opponent.

Not the first time he failed to hit his opponent before he died.
Dec 17, 2016 11:06 PM

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pretty obvious who goku was looking for from the former. but fun stuff.

hit definitely learned these abilities over the year since yes, he couldn't be lethal against goku in the tournament, but he never had to fight like that before, hence the improvement, and goku said they would over rule the gods so he sure as hell was training. but. who hired him to kill goku? is whis still memeing?

poor vegeta, we love you

Dec 17, 2016 11:19 PM

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This episode was ratherly disappointing and very anti-climatic. And with the preview now it's confusing. Why a fight between Hit and Goku? Shouldn't they have done that this episode?

And that shit animation for next week, well this episode too.
Dec 17, 2016 11:40 PM

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This Episode Was Quite Unique And I Loved It.Looks Like This Arc Is Going To Be Awesome
Dec 17, 2016 11:44 PM

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Uchihaaa said:
This Episode Was Quite Unique And I Loved It.Looks Like This Arc Is Going To Be Awesome


this is not the new arc though, this fight with Hit will end next week
Dec 18, 2016 12:10 AM

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ThugHunter said:
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this is not the new arc though, this fight with Hit will end next week


Unfortunately, this is the case. The next big arc doesn't officially start until February 5th.
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Dec 18, 2016 2:38 AM

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that preview is as shit as SSB vegito one lol (but with shit animation)
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Dec 18, 2016 2:50 AM

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Tropicalwood said:
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He's dead again, and it's the first time he doesn't even "Hit" his opponent.

Not the first time he failed to hit his opponent before he died.


When he died in the fight against Raditz he fought him a lot, he wasn't killed in an instant.
Against Cell it was the same.
Dec 18, 2016 3:10 AM

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So Goku will be revived, or he didn't die, and he instantly goes for a rematch?

Maybe Beerus/Whis secretly hired Hit so that Goku gets a big load of motivation to train like crazy for the tournament.

We can see Beerus' smile in the preview, which can mean his plan worked, or he forces Hit to train with Goku until the tournament begins.
Anyways, probably it's much simpler than that, and it will barely have any impact on the story, since it's just a 2-episodes long filler. :(
Dec 18, 2016 4:10 AM

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There was Vegeta in it/5

Goku's sons are as stupid as him, lol.

Wow, when Goku was talking to Hit Masako Nozawa made him sound like Black and I started fangirling xD

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Maybe Beerus/Whis secretly hired Hit so that Goku gets a big load of motivation to train like crazy for the tournament.

Oh... I think you are right. That's why Vegeta was suspecting Whis gave a training menu to Goku.
Dec 18, 2016 4:13 AM

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Hey, anyone have theory on how Hit can travel between Multiverse?
Does Whis help him?
Dec 18, 2016 4:19 AM

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Hit is Saitama. True story.
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Dec 18, 2016 4:57 AM
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Ulquiorra said:
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Not the first time he failed to hit his opponent before he died.


When he died in the fight against Raditz he fought him a lot, he wasn't killed in an instant.
Against Cell it was the same.

He didn't land a hit on that heart virus before it slowly and painfully killed him.
Dec 18, 2016 6:42 AM

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Hey, anyone have theory on how Hit can travel between Multiverse?
Does Whis help him?

Hit got the cube-shaped spacecraft from Champa in the tournament saga.

I'm also confused about the preview. Maybe Hit didn't actually kill Goku. He probably will take him to train in another planet or universe. I think the reason to fake Goku's death is that Goku can train 24/7 without having Chichi nagging.
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Tropicalwood said:
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When he died in the fight against Raditz he fought him a lot, he wasn't killed in an instant.
Against Cell it was the same.

He didn't land a hit on that heart virus before it slowly and painfully killed him.


Oh,that one, I completely forgot.
But that only happened in the future, I was thinking about actual battles he fought.
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Dayum it was that easy for hit to kill goku? o.O
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I think the reason Hit was able to kill Goku so easily is because he wasn't in a tournament therefore he was allowed to use his highly effective killing techniques.

Also it's pretty obvious that Whis must have hired him to train Goku. As well as this that next episode preview was ridiculous it had Gohan and Goten saying how terrible it was that their dad was dead but the footage is completely made up of Goku alive and fighting Hit, someone at Toei probably has a sense of humour about this I bet.

That beginning bit with Goku acting like a martial artist for the first time in ages was great, the bit where Gohan and Goten tail him around town was hilarious and the bit where Hit goes out on a job in that dark rainy city was unlike anything seen before in Dragon Ball this episode was much better than I thought it was going to be.
Dec 18, 2016 9:11 AM

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Hit killed Goku so easily
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I don't get it Goku is back alive, I'm guessing he got wished back again.
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Nah, this one was established like 35 episodes ago. It was said that Hit wasn't fighting seriously, couse he couldn't use all of his letal attacks, Goku surrenders becouse of that, he wanted proper fight. His main attacks are letal, all those time stuff are only tools. In first fight he had to convert his tool to main weapon. So this time it isin't out of nothing.

It says alot about Hit 35 episode ago (1 year in Anime) that even then vs Goku Kaioken x10 he won this fight (Goku said that he would loose either way, he couldn't fight anymore, were Hit was in good shape) and yet Hit was holding back.

So the real problem will be in the next episode, couse if Goku wins, it will be meh.
Draw or some slight upper hand would be better.

I see, that makes sense. Thanks. If I could +1 your helpful and informative post, then I would. =)

I know most people would consider it lame for Goku to figure out some way to win, but I'm kind of a dumb Goku fanboy and hate seeing him be so completely weak and useless like this. Though I do have to say, Hit being this unbelievably strong (maybe even stronger than Beerus, who knows) yet being so uninterested in wealth/power and ruling over the universe (even though he totally could) makes him a somehow likeable character despite being a cold-blooded murderer.
Dec 18, 2016 12:37 PM

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So was the Hit from episodes ago from Universe 6 and this is Universe 7's Hit? Maybe that would explain the power difference.
Dec 18, 2016 1:31 PM

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Jokes on Hit, Goku will get revived right away apparently. Dragon balls are too OP

the preview for next week looks hilarious judging from the animation alone
Dec 18, 2016 3:00 PM

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i'm guessing that hit can also manipulate space.
so, like obito , he's there but at the same time he's somewhere else.
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So was the Hit from episodes ago from Universe 6 and this is Universe 7's Hit? Maybe that would explain the power difference.

nope , same hit.
it felt like he knew goku already.
any other hit wouldn't have given goku a chance to run away.
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The fastest I've seen goku die lol. But excellent episode, different from the usual fights.

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Well that was unexpected. I mean sure from the last preview you could imagine what would happen to Goku, but really? 1 hit defeat without any chance? That's the first time I've ever seen Goku that inferior against someone. Also how did Goku know that Hit wants to kill him?

And what's going on in the next episode? Goku fighting again against Hit and Beerus appears?
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Looks like it's around that time for my Dragon Ball Super hype train to get rolling again. Really looking forward to next week to see Hit's face when he realized he failed his assassination for (what I'm guessing) the first time, especially after his new perfected techniques. And of course, to see why there was a hit on Goku to begin with.
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I think there's now a proper match for Saitama...it's gonna be Hit! (or might be Hit = Saitama because he One Punched Goku without contact!)
anyways that aside, what's the twist of this one!?
Beerus-sama ain't gonna like the outcome of this!
What's the trick that Hit has up his sleeve!?
An god-killing assassin technique!? might be an attack that is a higher plane of existence than the god-ki energy that isn't revealed yet?
Hit even has a Madara technique of style wherein all attacks passes through his own matter...Hit might even have "Limbo"...his own dimension since every time the time stops, the one affected of the time stop is also inside that dimension! might be a higher level of time stop which includes his very own dimension?
Who is Hit working for? hmmm...
5/5!
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I still don't understand why the characters make such a fuss over a death...
Shenron is like their best friend now, XD ... they're basically immortal

remove all the restrictions over ressurrection wishes was a terrible decision of the writers...
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robhans said:

It's not a arc, it's filler that ends in the next episode. Non of this will be in the manga.


It would make sense, i was wondering how was an Arc with Hit being the "villain" would be like.

I had a few ideas, but Akira and Toei both suck, so, I didn't expect them to do it correctly.

It's a weird filler then, I guess they had to ask Toriyama about Hit's techniques, or at least I hope so.

It would be dumb not to have Hit using these techniques later on.

Just like how Goku didn't absorbed any ki attacks, or healed himself ever again like he did in SSJG.

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can we have Spin-off series with Hit as a antihero? Couse his world seems pretty interesting and Hit himself is a great character.


Do we have confirmation that THAT was his world?

Anyway, Hit is interesting, but he wouldn't work as a main character.

fejota said:
Aladeen111 said:
Hey, anyone have theory on how Hit can travel between Multiverse?
Does Whis help him?

Hit got the cube-shaped spacecraft from Champa in the tournament saga.



No, he didn't.

#1) He said he didn't want it anymore.

#2) The cube was his prize for winning, he lost.

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remove all the restrictions over ressurrection wishes was a terrible decision of the writers...


I couldn't agree more.

The revival of characters was an 0.K. thing since it could be performed only 1 time.

Then Akira ended up removing many restrictions over time.

The more powerful the characters and wishes, the more crappy DB becomes.

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This Episode Was Quite Unique


Yes, it was uniquely boring.

The actual meat was like 10 minutes at most, it got ridiculously extended.

This is why the manga is superior, it brings the actual story, not the unnecessary crap.

Having motion, color and sound is clearly an advantage, but I wouldn't sacrifice the quality of the story for those, even less when the animation is poor.
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soo Hit is absolutely OP as expected. It wouldnt even be bad if there would be a reason for it. But no...

Judging from the preview, super tries to make a new "most ugly anime epsiode of all time" attempt.
I hope this was just a budget saver for the preview and not the real animation.

Is this the first time they have to use the dragonballs to get a mc back?
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