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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I was expecting Grillpalzer and Knapfstein to betray Reuental but they never got the chance. It's a bit too late for Knapfstein but that's what happens at the wrong end of a gamble. I didn't expect the battle to last so long but it looks like all that's needed is one final push next episode. |
 ...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work. |
| Poor Grillpalzer couldn't make up his mind when to doublecross Reuental which led up to Knapfstein to die and his fleet to get almost pulverized. I gotta hand it to Bittenfeld, he just charges in like a wild boar but manages to survive everytime till now. It's not something that usually works, but eh. Also, a person's got to give to Wahlen. He lost his arm when he went to Earth and then lost his prosthetic one after 2 direct hits, just how unlucky that guy is, but still manages to survive. I guess it's things like there that make me care about supporting characters like Lutz and Wahlen. |
| Wahlen has bad luck... or should I say good luck? Grillpalzer is too loser to make decisions. He got himself in something he can't handle.... |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| Grillpaltzer's mouth sure wrote a check his ass couldn't cash. He didn''t fully take into account what would be possible when fighting Wolfgang's forces. Reuenthal has been doing well against Wolfgang so far without having any particularly notable suboardinates under his wing. But as he himself admitted, Reuenthal is feeling some of the similar circumstances Yang Wenli faced in his final battle on Iserlohn. Without any backup, Reuenthal will eventually lose to attrition and have to face Reinhard. |
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| Well, Grillpalzer definitely went way over his head and now hes paying the bill. But this episode was really great, definitely one of the best battles in the series. Wahlen and Bittenfeld are really two unkillable guys. Nobody survived more critical situations than those two. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| As usual, the battle was really realistic and fitted each admiral's character. Wahlen was great, and Julian proved he can take sensible decisions on his own. With Mecklinger coming from Iserlohn, Reuenthal is doomed. |
| wow i wouldn't have thought Mittermeyer will go chasing after Reuenthal So Knapfstein's out...oh well,he wasn't such an important character from my POV,but still RIP i hope for some FPA episodes soon :( 5/5 |
Sayonara,papa! "Just how a mirror reflects you,people will also reflect your heart." ~Athena Glory,Aria "Whatever happens,happens" ~Spike Spiegel's thoughts on dying(Cowboy Bebop) |
| Epic episode! |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
| Great episode. But man, I hate that Reuentahl and Mittermeyer has to fight. =( |
| Bittenfield has grown on me. The mans fun to watch. |
| The name of the next episode really gives it away |
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| I lol'd at the "This isn't good." misunderstanding. |
| This war seems so futile, I still can't believe Reuental would have done it. The previous civil war was about overthrowing the old dynasty, then there was the war against Alliance which also was about the type of government. But this one seems more about Reuental's personal pride. How many million people died in this battle as a result? Yes, maybe Oberstein had some schemes, maybe Reinhard wants battles to feel glorious. But is that a good reason to have millions of soldiers killed in battle? Are they trying to say that autocracy inevitably leads to such civil wars in which the ordinary people suffer? But they're not even showing civilians or even regular soldiers anymore, the dead are just numbers and all we see is ships exploding. Oh well, more widows for Poplan to woo. Incidentally, I never noticed before how phallic the Imperial ships look. |
| HAHA that Knapfstein got killed before he could double cross, he probably cursing in Valhalla to have never went along with the plan. |
| Why don't they just attack Reuenthal en masse? I mean . . . The whole strategy to rush them clearly had failed in whatever it was trying to do, so just back off and wait till their numbers greatly outnumber those of Reuenthal's . . . That would easily be the best course of action. |
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Feorg said: This war seems so futile, I still can't believe Reuental would have done it. The previous civil war was about overthrowing the old dynasty, then there was the war against Alliance which also was about the type of government. But this one seems more about Reuental's personal pride. How many million people died in this battle as a result? Yes, maybe Oberstein had some schemes, maybe Reinhard wants battles to feel glorious. But is that a good reason to have millions of soldiers killed in battle? Are they trying to say that autocracy inevitably leads to such civil wars in which the ordinary people suffer? But they're not even showing civilians or even regular soldiers anymore, the dead are just numbers and all we see is ships exploding. Oh well, more widows for Poplan to woo. Incidentally, I never noticed before how phallic the Imperial ships look. This is precisely the reasoning why I'm not enjoying this arc. The fuel for the conflict seems ridiculous. |
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TowardsTheStars said: I lol'd at the "This isn't good." misunderstanding. Yea, some nice random comedy there :) |
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| That was my favourite battle in a long time. It showcased more tactics and leadership than the others that were propelled by incompetence. It actually makes Reuental's work seem more cut out for him than most of Yang's battles. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| This was actually a really good battle. There was no BS on either side. |
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| Impressive battle! Really great episode. I do wonder what's next. |
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| Loved this episode! Bitttenfield looking like a somewhat decent commander was nice to see. |
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| Those two admirals got what they deserved! It's a shame that Reuental was stuck with them though. |
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| Lol Knappstein got fucking rekt! I almost got worried thinking Wahlen was going to die there. |
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| Reuenthal ended up being a traitor for childish reason, waging a meaningless battle using millions of soldiers, all because of his ego and lifelong unrest. Well he's a character to be remembered for sure. On the other hand I was sooo glad Wahlen didn't die. I think I pretty much like all Reinhard's subordinates, even Oberstein, and of course Reuenthal. This whole battle saddens me and I hope if anyone's gonna die, please just make it Reuenthal alone since it's inevitable anyway. Or is it? |
bossmamaNov 1, 2016 9:15 AM
| great episode, it showed the military competence of Reuental and Mittermeyer but also the other admirals. It looks like Mittermeyer was too fast to let the reinhard loyal forces carry out the plan. Its a bit sad to see people dying because Reuental was too proud to just tell reinhard what happened. Like Mittermeyer said he is indeed drunken by bloodlust. I hope we wont see more of Reinhards loyal subject die. After all even Reuental sub commanders think they are fighting for their kaiser. I really really dont want Mittermeyer to die. He is just to good of a man. PS: Episodes without alliance bullshit are the best in my opinion. Also considering what we saw so far about Iserlohn, any fleet could just pass by it without taking any damage. But dont tell them that, would make the rebel scum useless. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| a battle between frends/sons/brothers full of strategy!!! |
| Funniest part of the episode was Reuenthal's misunderstanding with the coffee boy. |
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| It truly feels like Reuental is fighting well aware that he will lose. Mittemeyer's rage is too much for the poor man to handle. I'll miss my man Oskar von Reuenthal. |
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| Haha I love that "Mazui" when he drank the coffee, Mazui means disgusting/this is bad "situation" That word have double meaning so yea, Reuntal was like "Hmm? Oh yeaaa...." Great joke xD Reuntal might be perfect but his subordinates aren't Also those two guys completely missed their chances to betray Reuntal Kinda ironic, if Mittermeyer let them did that.. the war might be ended faster |
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| Oh well, this didn't go according to their plan. Definitely an intense battle so far. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| I liked Yang's battles more because he'd come out with crazier tactics and he was the one explaining the stuff that's happening, instead of having the narrator doing it. It was a great battle but I personally didn't like it that much. |
| Don't sleep on Bittenfeld. |
| I hate everyone equally |
| step 1: "haha we'll pretend and then stab him in the back but we won't tell anyone in advance" step 2: "oh no how could this have happened to me" even worse, dude dragged his friend into it unnecessarily and now he's gone |
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| so much friendly fire casualites from both sides :( Bayerlein almost got killed in action .. if that happen Mittermeyer woulda unleashed the whole clip on Reuenthal's army rip Knappstein .. he didn't want any parts of the war and was the first of the commanders to die :( |
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JohnWoo said: RIP Knapfstein. You idiot! Grillpalzer's stupid plan just got his friend killed. I was so sad when it looked like Wahlen was next to go. So glad he survived. I thought Bittenfeld might bite it too, but he lives on for now. Yeah Reuental is an idiot, but Reinhard wanted this too. But Reuental should have chosen his type to strike better. He's never going to win this fight. I still think he will kill his best friend though. Power rankings 1) Empire. Will win this battle, but will likely lose two of their three best tactical masterminds doing it. 2) Julian 3) Rubinski 4) Earth Cult 6) Goldenbaums 7) Reuental. I've put him last because he's really not long for this world. these power rankings are hilarious lol imagine Reuental catching wind you ranked him under the army-less exiled Goldenbaums (X_X) |
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| am i the only one thinking this episode must be the most heaviest narrated episode? the narrator didn't shut his mouth for a second. lol grilpalzer "double cross" hasn't been done. and by doing so he killed his friend he dragged only because he promised him he's gonna betray reunthal in the end. i'm kind wants him to do that, rather because he owe it's knapstein, and rather because it will make the plot much interesting lol. in the end julian had made his decision. well i must say i'm not surprised, he now have the empire's "owe" to him. |
| Such a painful episode... truly meaningless to have to die at the hands of once friendly forces. |
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| Goddamit Grillpalzer you could have changed the course of the battle but your indecisiveness caused so much damage to the Empire. Really pathetic. I like Wahlen even more now. He's been an admirable badass ever since he appeared. This battle was so awesome. Especially that thing when Mittermeyer made small openings in Reuental's lines, and at the end when Reuental made that triangular formation for letting his forces retreat. Whoa Mittermeyer being all business about bringing Reuental down, that was nice. I wonder if he'll be able to actually catch him before he retreats to Heinessen..although it's not like Heinessen is a fortress. And there's more fleets coming to Mittermeyer's aid too. Does Reuental stand any chance? |
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| Lots of great tactics this episode. Too bad the double-crossers couldn't do shit with the overwhelming Gale Wolf in front of them |
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| Good display of battle, it seems that more things are going on than meets the eye. Grillpalzer just can't seem to betray Reuntal or waited too long and Knapfstein lost his life in process without anyone knowing about his plan to betray. The powers seem to be pretty evenly matched but I can feel that Mittermeyer has an upper hand thanks to his elite commaders like Wahlen and Bitterfield, also Wahlen losing his arm again was really epic, thankfully he survived again too. |
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