Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai: Tensai-tachi no Renai Zunousen Chapter 280 Discussion

MegamiRem said:
Shirogane really hates losing doesn't he? Good chapter but I wanted Kaguya x Shirogane in the last two chapters.

The next chapter is the last, I still can't believe it's ending soon.

JizzyHitler said:
I was worried this was gonna be a pretty dry chapter to be the penultimate one till Shirogane saved it in that last stretch with the narcism, fuck I'm gonna miss this stuff.

Soviet_Yunyun93 said:
Are we supposed to care about the dude who just showed up at the end?

Deknijff said:
why author wasting second last chapter on Mikado who doesn't matter and isn't important when we should be getting Kaguya x Miyuki moments

I feel chapter has heavily wasted my time, especially considering only Hayasaka conclusion chapter was any good when all the other ones been very lame and cringe and waste of time

RobertBobert said:

Also, it seems to me, or except for the hair color due to the black and white printing, in this chapter they look almost like twins?

Farabeuf said:
All the salt here. People are missing the point. Mikado is not important here, he’s a vehicle for Shirogane to make his point about genius, life and his relationship with Kaguya. He couldn’t have had that same conversation with anyone but him who has in theory been his rival for her affections. It would have been awkward to have that conversation with Ishigami.
Looking forward to the grand finale although I can already see some people complaining about it because their ship didn’t get enough protagonism

tokihikki said:
Next chapter plot twist - They are twins ☠️

RobertBobert said:


You're missing the point, people didn't need this conversation at all. Especially with Mikado as "vehcle". Imagine that the author was never able to come up with a specific purpose for a character in the plot and now spends important time on him as a plot tool. You yourself literally are pointing out why people don't like using the Mikado here.



They were literally meant to be "twins" in a certain sense, but Aka dropped it halfway through, actually using it for one arc and a couple of jokes.

hyperknees91 said:


It's clear that whatever he had planning with Mikado, it never came to be (just look at his random dealing a the beginning of chapter 216 where neither his conversation or the woman he is talking to end up being relevant in anyway). But I'd say as soon as the Osaragi arc was over, he just dropped the whole plot of the series in general to rush to the finish.

I'm not even sure why he bothered to include Mikado in this chapter. It doesn't work, he's not fleshed out enough as a character and his role in the story is so pointless he could be written out entirely and no one would know the difference. Trying to include some last message with him feels forced as can be. Trying to tell us Kaguya is somehow not great at photography is also incredibly inconsistent (her whole character revolves being good/easily able to master anything). It's just a cheap way to somehow humanize her and to force this message even harder.

Though expecting any actual writing or storytelling from Aka at this point is pointless. It's clear he gave up on this series, and that brings me nothing but sadness as he basically destroyed all the good work he did in the first half. Now the series will age incredibly poorly and only be remembered for its character fondness (if even that is remembered, but I expect this to go the way of School Rumble).

RobertBobert said:


Well, as I hinted above, Mikado was originally meant to be Shirogane's foil with all that it entails. We even had a ship with Chika that played with the fact that Shirogane was her type and Chika was implied to be his type. But it was quickly thrown halfway through and the character seemed to disappear after its arc. Aka seemed to be literally planning to develop the Mikado's participation in the plot, but gradually he simply lost some interest in him.

Well, it looks like Aka just lost interest in the whole series and wants to dedicate himself to Oshi no Ko for the moment. I can understand him, but the way he casually tries to deal with Kaguya in these chapters makes me incredibly salty. It's like the work suddenly lost all significance and now it's just another manga that is going to be closed quickly.

hyperknees91 said:


That was the intention I imagine, even Kaguya herself mentions in chapter 212 that him and Miyuki are nothing alike. However no reason is ever given from her/or the plot as a whole.

The sad part is that the author regrets that his original manga (IB) was cancelled and he couldn't end it the way he wanted to. Whereas with Kaguya he could've ended it properly, but just chose to axe it on his own terms.

RobertBobert said:


This is not the only character whose development was stopped. Remember the time when it was implied that Chica is not as simple as it seems? The times when Hayasaka was constantly reminded of the desire to find a boyfriend and experience youth?

Again, I understand it. But it's so rushed, so superficial, that it's like the job has been canceled rather than him wanting to finish it quickly. This greatly reduces the seriousness of the work and it upsets me. Now when I think about it, I even started to fear that in the future Oshi no Ko might get the same ending.

hyperknees91 said:


I mean yeah, in that chapter where Fujiwara was shown to be a deeper character is the same volume he promised to give us a freshman year arc (which mind you, he still promised to give us last year). Now we don't even have the arc and we have no idea what the deal with Momo and her debt with Miyuki is and why the ex-president is so badly hated. Obviously I could go on, because there's tons of plots that just dropped out of orbit but its depressing to think about.

I mean that's kind of the thing. Why would you trust an author that chooses to end their work in such a half-hearted way. And yeah, there's the whole "immersion" of the work being firmly broken when you realize how little most of the things in this work make any sense/have proper follow ups based on the later writing in the second half. Osaragi's whole story against Iino abandoning Ishigami even though Iino helped Ishigami get into highschool comes to mind. The plot simply never brings this up again, and just continues to go with the newly established narrative that she never supported Ishigami afterwards...I figured he would follow this up properly, but it never came to be. Sadly there's far more than that that doesn't make any sense, but it is what it is at this point.

Basically the only way to enjoy this series is to ignore the plot/drama/character development and just enjoy it for the comedy/character interactions.

RobertBobert said:

Also, it seems to me, or except for the hair color due to the black and white printing, in this chapter they look almost like twins?