| I've seen quite a few rating-related threads recently where seemingly no one rates shows that they've dropped because they'd "feel bad" for the show. I personally don't understand this sentiment at all. If you disliked a show enough to stop watching, doesn't that mean you thought it wasn't good? How can you confidently give a great series a high score while not being able to do the opposite to a show you disliked? |
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| You could look at the opposite end, how can you confidently rate a series you never finished even if you disliked it? If enjoyment is absolutely the only factor you consider then it's pretty easy. But it wouldn't be a stretch to say some people want to focus on more criteria which can't be properly applied to a series they didn't finish. |
| we drop it for a reason. but picking it up aint always a reason or not rating, its simple: youre too lazy to rate something u might pick up again. i rate what i drop even if i plan on picking it up again to show myself in the future how i regarded this show. there is no reason to pick up a show if youre not the least interested in the context or simply isnt in the mood for that. but on the other side we have the completitionists.... |
| Sonic X is basically an isekai |
| I rate most of the stuff I dropped. And I lower the score by 1 just for getting to the point where I felt like I had to drop it because I'm generally patient and don't drop things easily so it's quite an accomplishment to get me to drop a show. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Maybe I'm being a hypocrite, but I can't rate some things I dropped because I feel I am not being fair with it. For example, I didn't rate Fate / Zero because I didn't feel it was a bad series, but I didn't like it. |
PentagramShogoki said: Maybe I'm being a hypocrite, but I can't rate some things I dropped because I feel I am not being fair with it. For example, I didn't rate Fate / Zero because I didn't feel it was a bad series, but I didn't like it. Idk, can't you reflect that in your score? I have similar cases like that in my dropped list as well and I make it clear that I didn't find them as bad as the rest of the stuff there by giving them 6 or 7/10 when most other dropped stuff gets a 4 or 5 at best. I don't think it's a big problem. Dropped is just a status, the score can still reflect whatever your opinion of the show is - bad, mediocre, good etc... |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Pullman said: PentagramShogoki said: Maybe I'm being a hypocrite, but I can't rate some things I dropped because I feel I am not being fair with it. For example, I didn't rate Fate / Zero because I didn't feel it was a bad series, but I didn't like it. Idk, can't you reflect that in your score? I have similar cases like that in my dropped list as well and I make it clear that I didn't find them as bad as the rest of the stuff there by giving them 6 or 7/10 when most other dropped stuff gets a 4 or 5 at best. I don't think it's a big problem. Dropped is just a status, the score can still reflect whatever your opinion of the show is - bad, mediocre, good etc... That's why I say I'm maybe being a hypocrite. If I drop a series, it is not because is bad but because I wasn't enjoying it. For example, I dropped Nichijou because I heavy disliked that humor (that made it a 4), but it wasn't a bad series at all. I think it depends on what I'm watching and what it makes me feel. |
| I guess feel bad in the sense that the show could've potentially been a hidden gem if continued, but was unbearable at the time of dropping. Giving a great series a high score is easier cause you've seen all (at the very least most of it), but in terms of the other way round, you don't have the full picture of what the series could offer, so in that case some might not want to pass judgement on solely what they've seen. Hence the "feels bad for it" aspect More so, I don't think dropping a show automatically = disliking it. Like for instance if someone dropped One Piece 400 eps in because they don't have the commitment to watch another 500 eps (i.e., not enough time anymore), they could've still enjoyed the show despite no longer choosing to watch it. Or in my case, for instance, I've technically dropped Lovely Complex because the females taller than males romance isn't my cup of tea, but that doesn't mean I think the show is bad per se |
Short_CircutMar 21, 2019 1:27 PM
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| I rate stuff I dropped with absolutely no regrets, because I have an opinion about it. Granted I don't really drop that much stuff anyway because I do research, have broad taste, and have patience. |
| "The name's Gambit. Remember it." -Gambit "X-Men '97"  |
Bagira20 said: I can't speak for anyone else, but...I've seen quite a few rating-related threads recently where seemingly no one rates shows that they've dropped because they'd "feel bad" for the show. I personally don't understand this sentiment at all. If you disliked a show enough to stop watching, doesn't that mean you thought it wasn't good? How can you confidently give a great series a high score while not being able to do the opposite to a show you disliked? 1. Sometimes I rate stuff I've dropped, if I feel I have a sense of my own opinion on it. 2. In one case, I went back and watched it and the re-rated it afterward. 3. If I don't have an opinion on something, I don't rate. 4. Sometimes I don't drop because of dislike. I may use the dropped status if I happened to watch something but don't plan on continuing it at all. 5. A few of my dropped ratings are surprisingly high. |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| I don't rate dropped or animes because I only rate ones that I've finished, and my opinion is that just because I didn't like something, it doesn't necessarily deserve a bad rating I can tell whether an anime is actually bad, or it just wasn't good enough for my tastes The only cases I rate a dropped anime, if I've watched at least 2/3 of it, then I rate it based on how much I'd enjoyed it until that point |
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GamerDLM said: You could look at the opposite end, how can you confidently rate a series you never finished even if you disliked it? If enjoyment is absolutely the only factor you consider then it's pretty easy. But it wouldn't be a stretch to say some people want to focus on more criteria which can't be properly applied to a series they didn't finish. Like what? Every single element of ANY product made for entertainment, which anime is one of, is made for the sole purpose of enjoyment. Of course you can break down all these elements and examine why they create this feeling of enjoyment, but that doesn't change the fact that they are subservient to it. In short, even if a series had the best animation/characters/music/etc.../ of all time, I'd still drop it if I the feeling of enjoyment wasn't there. And that feeling should come before the first episode ends, which is what happens in the works I'd consider great. |
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| I have the no drop rule. So, I'm not afraid hahahaha. |
| BANZAI NIPPON. Nippon is the Land of freedom. Nippon is the Land of Peace. Nippon is the Land of Justice and Prosperity. In Nippon, we trust. We love Nippon, we love Anime. Anime love us, Nippon love us. 日本 I believe in freedom of expression. |
| I agree with everything the OP says including his Edgeworth avatar. |
| dunno.. maybe they didn't like it nor care about thus couldn't be bothered to rate. I like cataloguing stuff. So I rate dropped stuff. Tho dropped stuff is "cleared trash bin" for me. Meaning I will never touch them again. "On-hold" is category that will be picked up again and from there whenever completed or dropped is a question. Mentioning because seems a lot brought it up here. |
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Bagira20 said: GamerDLM said: You could look at the opposite end, how can you confidently rate a series you never finished even if you disliked it? If enjoyment is absolutely the only factor you consider then it's pretty easy. But it wouldn't be a stretch to say some people want to focus on more criteria which can't be properly applied to a series they didn't finish. Like what? Every single element of ANY product made for entertainment, which anime is one of, is made for the sole purpose of enjoyment. Of course you can break down all these elements and examine why they create this feeling of enjoyment, but that doesn't change the fact that they are subservient to it. In short, even if a series had the best animation/characters/music/etc.../ of all time, I'd still drop it if I the feeling of enjoyment wasn't there. And that feeling should come before the first episode ends, which is what happens in the works I'd consider great. The obvious example would be story elements. You can hardly rate on say overall execution if you dropped it in say the first two episodes. Also yes it is intended for enjoyment, but we are specifically talking about ratings which any individual could have any number of criteria for rating series. Like even pulling an example you used can you really rate based on the characters if you have no experience with how they developed throughout the series, or can you really judge them based on just the first few episodes? The answer is likely without watching there's no real way to tell unless you use an alternate source. Yes enjoyment is a viable factor when rating series but the point of my statement if it's the "only" criteria you use for rating then obviously you'll have no qualms with rating a series you dropped because to you none of those other elements matter as far as rating. Where to somebody else that may not be the case and they want to fairly judge the individual elements that make up the whole product. |
| I read somewhere on MAL that not rating a show is lowering the overall score more than if you rate it a 1, of course if you saw a third of it. Maybe they are haters. I rate everything. |
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| It's not that I'm afraid, more like most of my drops are 1 episode or less and by my drop criteria it doesn't mean that a show must be unwatchable to be dropped. There is nothing to rate on the first 5 or 10 minutes of a 300 minutes long or longer show. If I've seen a third or half of it and/or I feel comfortable with giving a rating then I will, but there is a reason that I only rated obout 30 out of my almost 500 drops. |
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| I don't rate them because for most of the time I don't even reach half of it. I prefer to rate when I have more time, not 1 or 3 episodes. |
| First you have to finish your crap show before you rate it. Without skipping, fast forwarding and being distracted as watching it, until the last episode. If you dropped the show before finishing it, that means it didn't deserve the score you were going to give it anyway. |
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Bagira20 said: I've seen quite a few rating-related threads recently where seemingly no one rates shows that they've dropped because they'd "feel bad" for the show. I personally don't understand this sentiment at all. If you disliked a show enough to stop watching, doesn't that mean you thought it wasn't good? How can you confidently give a great series a high score while not being able to do the opposite to a show you disliked? "Only scores where a user has completed at least 1/5 of the anime/manga are calculated." So...for the most part there's no point. If you just want to have a score there to represent your feelings of a show, that's one thing. but some people will give low scores to series they dropped thinking that that will affect its mean score. Also why rate dropped series anyways? That would just bring down your average score for your completed series. Besides, most people don't score things until they complete them. That's how it's supposed to go I think. So if you don't complete a series, you don't score it. Give high scores to series I love and vice versa; low scores are for series I watched and didn't like. For me if a series is so uninteresting to me that I don't even complete it, it doesn't really need/deserve a score. |
| Some people just don't want low ratings in their anime list and it's their choice. Some people may feel that they can't rate properly something they haven't completed. To name two other plausible explanations. |
| I rate everything I watch, especially stuff I disliked enough to drop. |
| I just don't like rating things I've only seen 1 or 2 episodes of. If I've seen more than that I'll gladly rate something, dropped or not. Though I used to not rate dropped shows or anything I'm currently watching at all because of this jal90 said: Some people may feel that they can't rate properly something they haven't completed. |
| Afraid is an odd word there, it doesn't scare me lol. I only rate a show I've completed is my reasoning, I don't see how someone can rate a 24 episode series after 2 episodes. It's not the finished product yet, my opinion and score is based on the show as a whole. So if I drop it I just won't even bother scoring it usually. |
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| I rate everything. When I have a dropped anime rated it's obviously not going to be a rating based off the entire show, just what I've watched up to that point. And if I ever pick it back up I can just reevaluate it then. |
| I rate most of the things I drop, the only time that I avoid rating is when I drop a show that I knew that I wouldn't like... except if I find it insulting or retarded, in that case I rate it anyway. |
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| Well , I don't rate if I drop the show after like 1 or 2 episodes because I don't think I've watched enough to rate it. |
| "In this world, wherever there is light – there are also shadows. As long as the concept of winners exists, there must also be losers. The selfish desire of wanting to maintain peace causes wars, and hatred is born to protect love." -Madara Uchiha  |
| Because it makes my mean score ridiculously low and when even my score doesn't effect the overall score of that anime there's no meaning behind it |
| I only rate when I feel I've explored enough to calculate. Some drops I know right away, some drops I simply don't care. |
| Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on. Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time. Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always. |
| I went through 3 phases: 1. What you described was my "kind beginner" phase. They made effort to produce this anime. Maybe I don't know enough about anime and so on. 2. My "know your general taste" phase. I like this anime -> complete it / I don't like it -> drop it. Sometimes rate the dropped anime. 3. My current "wearied traveler" phase. Filter every anime before even watching episode 1 (synopsis, PV, reviews, genre, demographics, year of production, studio, etc) If the anime disappoints, nevertheless, rate it. Always rate it. The last time was with Frieren. I had enough of 12 episodes because the pacing was so slow. Then, I dropped it but I recognize why people enjoy it so I rated it 10 anyway. If people can become more paced and clever with Frieren that 10 is worth it (though it is more symbolic my single rating won't move the scores that much). I still see youtube shorts of it, so it sometimes give me incentive to continue, but I haven't taken the time to pick it up and I have too many loose ones to finish first. |
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| Doesn't necessarily apply to me but when has that ever stopped me I don't rate shows I drop because I consider dropping them enough of, like, a statement that I don't need to score it, especially when I normally drop it within 3 episodes anyway EDIT: Although that's not to say they are the worst shows I've ever watched, merely that if they were good enough, I wouldn't have dropped them. Consider it a general "thumbs down" but it's not a 0. If I for whatever reason have to shelve it and it gets pseudo-dropped, it'll generally rot in the "on hold" section instead of being outright dropped |
Supersonic_PainYesterday, 7:24 PM
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| I drop a lot of stuff after one episode. So my score wouldn't even count towards the MAL score. The only anime I rated after only one episode were shows I rated 1/10 because they had nothing going for them and were barely animated. |
| Because they don't want to get hate from fanboys/ fangirls for rating a series they didn't finish. Some people are of the belief that you can't properly rate an anime unless you watch it all the way through. Which I think is bull. A person can get an idea of the direction of an anime and how they'll like it off the first few episodes. I think it's just a way of fans barring people from downscoring their favorite shows. Because I highly doubt that these fans would have respectful opinions of new viewers if they watched their favorites all the way through and gave them a bad rating anyway. Plus, MAL already restricts users' scores from affecting community scores if they haven't watched a certain amount of episodes. Not to mention, not everyone is chasing for clout as a critic. Some just watch for entertainment. Scores are supposed to be a reflection of a user's enjoyment of a series in the first place. Users can have so many different criteria and opinions for what makes an anime worthy of a particular score that it makes the idea of rating "objectively" practically pointless. |
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