| Go watch Ergo Proxy or Angel's Egg if you haven't, and you'll see what it means. |
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DepravedMagi said: how can an anime be pretentious. Just go and watch: Overlord SnK BNHA Code Geass And other shows that take themselves too seriously, and their fandoms thinks its the second coming of Christ. |
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DepravedMagi said: Swagernator said: Just go and watch: Overlord SnK BNHA Code Geass And other shows that take themselves too seriously. I've seen all of them except overlord. Then why are you here asking this question. At this point everything should be clear as day. |
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| Just a word people use while bashing a show to make them look smart while they do it |
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| An anime can't be pretentious, but some anime fans definitely can. |
| here you go, as a reference. just copy and paste this in ur favs |
uninstallthegameAug 25, 2018 9:13 AM
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| any anime i don't like is pretentious |
Edward Elric > your waifu  |
| Angel Egg, Serial Experiment Lain, Monster are pretentious. |
| i think if you spot the anime placing things that dont belong or trying to be deep by having weird crazy long speeches that mean nothing, or trying to be mysterious on basic ish. some anime like flcl pull it off... many others just make you cringe when you notice it |
| Danganronpa is the definition of pretentious anime |
| Symbolism makes an anime seem pretentious. Look at rahxephon, if you aren't paying attention you won't understand the plot and the narrative. Whenever Quon speaks I get brain damage. Well, there's a bit of echi so you can watch it for that. In evangelion even echi is a symbol for something. |
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Catalano said: Come on now.Symbolism makes an anime seem pretentious. Look at rahxephon, if you aren't paying attention you won't understand the plot and the narrative. Whenever Quon speaks I get brain damage. Well, there's a bit of echi so you can watch it for that. In evangelion even echi is a symbol for something. Some of it but not all of it. |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
| Elfen Lied is the first show that comes to my mind. |
-Lightsbane- said: An anime can't be pretentious, but some anime fans definitely can. Fans definitely ruin things. It's why I'll never claim to be a huge fan of anything I like since I don't want to be lumped in with the crazier fans. |
| just watch the first few episodes of clASSroom of the elite and sagurada reset, and you would get a general idea. |
| N.etorare T.echnical R.esearcher |
| I use that term when an anime tries to be smart and thought-provoking without solid writing to back those intentions up, with absolutely zero self-awareness of how silly it actually is. |
| Who are you and why do you show your hostility towards a complete stranger whom you've not once spoken with before. Are you seriously asking to get blocked? Well, if that's what your intent is; to tempt me into throwing hands with someone as lowly and insignificant as you, then i may grant your wish provided you articulate yourself a bit better when trying to spite a person of my wavelength. |
| I think when an anime that go too overboard like Monogatari, its pretentious. I mean a huge part of what they are showing and speaking it does not have anything at all to do with the message of the anime, its only there fór style and to look smart. |
OtaMonkAug 25, 2018 11:13 AM
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GangstaYangWenli said: But it's a "deconstruction" and "subervision", it was intentionally made like that!I think when an anime that go too overboard like Monogatari, its pretentious. I mean a huge part of what they are showing and speaking it does not have anything at all to do with the message of the anime, its only there fór style and to look smart. Is what they love to tell you. |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
| Basically just something more concerned with appearing deep/sophisticated/intelligent than actually being so. |
| Every anime where there's a character who plays god is pretentious. e.g. Cross Ange: Tenshi to Ryuu no Rondo (Embryo) Darling in the FranXX (Dr. Franxx) Death Note (Light) Neon Genesis Evangelion (Gendou) It doesn't get any simpler. |
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| Uhh I don't think snk or bnha are pretentious, just their fandoms are :/ which is the case for a lot of anime.I think SimeonStylitses basically hit the nail on the head with his explanation. |
| Classroom of the elite Classroom of the elite Classroom of the elite |
| Most underated anime on mal: https://myanimelist.net/anime/4651/Yume_no_Crayon_Oukoku?q=Yume%20ni%20crayon |
| Something is pretentious when it uses script, cinematic sequence, or some other quality, that doesn't cohesively contribute to the narrative when addressed to its intended audience. For example, when a show aimed at teens drops obscure philosophical principles in its script, when the intended audience cannot reasonably be expected to judge the validity of what is being said, the reason for such a script cannot be to improve upon the plot, but to "impress" its viewers in a way that doesn't add to the narrative quality. A little bit of impressing is allowable to set the scene, but any amount of beating a dead bush can be considered pretentious. Another example is when some cinematic cliche is used to exact some kind of emotional effect, such as a wind blowing over at the right moment, or its starts raining at some narrative conflict, or a character clenches his fists, or some overly depressive soundtrack replays... These all work in moderation, obviously, to accentuate the plot, but when they are dropped in the work liberally, as if the director was too smart for his own good, it becomes pretentious. There's some measure of subjectivity, based on individual understanding or grasping of certain subtext, or sensitivity to the techniques used, sensitivity to emotional manipulation, etc. The first time you saw a zoom in of a character clenching his fist, you might have really felt it. After the 1000th time, it is just cheesy. Instead of organic storytelling, it becomes a point to hit. If you told a joke and messed up, you might be seen as quirky and people laugh it off. If you told a joke and messed up on purpose, and keep messing up on purpose to achieve the same effect, you might lose all your friends. |
| My subjective reviews: katsureview.wordpress.com THE CHAT CLUB. |
| When it's made in such a way that it seems to be screaming "look at me, look how different and superior I am!!" |
DepravedMagi said: I've seen this kind of criticism used for certain anime and I still don't understand how can an anime be pretentious. So what would make an anime pretentious? Almost no anime is pretentious per se. Most of the cases it is just it's fanbase saying they're deeper than they actually are (Think AKIRA and EVA theories). A pretentious anime would be one that sells itself as more deep/complex than it really is, usually being shallow in what it proposes. |
Ericonator said: Go watch Ergo Proxy or Angel's Egg if you haven't, and you'll see what it means. Evangelion and Angel's Egg are two of the most pretentious anime. Critics and fans always like to overanalyzed anime on something that isn't there. Evangelion Christian symbolism are just there to look cool, no deep theme or symbolism behind it. There is no actual Christian meaning to the show, we just thought the visual symbols of Christianity look cool. If we had known the show would get distributed in the US and Europe we might have rethought that choice. https://wiki.evageeks.org/Statements_by_Evangelion_Staff As for Angel's Egg, the director and writer himself, Mamoru Oshii stated he does not know what the film is about. Critics overanalyze Angel's Egg. Oshii himself has stated he does not know what the film is about.[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel%27s_Egg#Themes You can tell an anime is pretentious when fans/critics overpraise the anime for something the director/writer/author not intended to put in there. |
Papa_ScorchAug 25, 2018 6:48 PM
Gorochu said: Ericonator said: Go watch Ergo Proxy or Angel's Egg if you haven't, and you'll see what it means. Evangelion and Angel's Egg are two of the most pretentious anime. Critics and fans always like to overanalyzed anime on something that isn't there. Evangelion Christian symbolism are just there to look cool, no deep theme or symbolism behind it. There is no actual Christian meaning to the show, we just thought the visual symbols of Christianity look cool. If we had known the show would get distributed in the US and Europe we might have rethought that choice. https://wiki.evageeks.org/Statements_by_Evangelion_Staff As for Angel's Egg, the director and writer himself, Mamoru Oshii stated he does not know what the film is about. Critics overanalyze Angel's Egg. Oshii himself has stated he does not know what the film is about.[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel%27s_Egg#Themes You can tell an anime is pretentious when fans/critics overpraise the anime for something the director/writer/author not intended to put in there. I get lowkey shocked everytime i see someone that thinks Evangelion's fans praises it because of the religious symbolism. It has nothing to do with the overal message of the show and i don't see why the fact that it's only there because of the aesthetics should change anything |
| I don't use that word because it just screams "I don't like this anime so instead of properly criticizing it I'll just call it a pretentious anime for elitist scum" (that's just me though, feel free to disagree) Really though, it comes mostly from the dialogue and the way its presented. Sprinkle in some philosophy and symbolism and you get a recipe for disaster (half the people watching it going "ermehgard this is the deepest shit I've ever seen 10/10 lemme write a 20 page essay about it" and the other half going "this is pretentious dogshit wtf lol imma write a 20 page essay about it") Everything ends up bring a super hit-or-miss coin toss so really you should use your own judgment to decide and not anyone else's |
Imperio_nAug 25, 2018 7:28 PM
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Swagernator said: DepravedMagi said: how can an anime be pretentious. Just go and watch: Overlord SnK BNHA Code Geass And other shows that take themselves too seriously, and their fandoms thinks its the second coming of Christ. But - as you identified - the *fandoms* tend to cause a decent amount of the issue here. I'm a fan of all of those - especially BnHA & SnK - but I'm on a nice peaceful deserted island in the sea of degeneracy that is most fandoms. |
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DepravedMagi said: I'm not really too sure either, but I think it has something to do with a combination of heavy use of unexplained elements and/or symbolism, and some amount of having a confusing storyline but doing it while having an overall feeling of mystique such that it feels sophisticated.I've seen this kind of criticism used for certain anime and I still don't understand how can an anime be pretentious. So what would make an anime pretentious? |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| i think a lot of the time it's the fanbase that makes it pretentious, as in the fanbase praising it for something that it wasn't originally intended to say. it makes it look that way when it's really just misinterpreted |
| pretentious is a label when it people take it too deeply something the series it self doesn't intended it... so tha fault land on fanbases, not the series it self... people who ciriticizes the series using pretentious word is ironically pretentious themself... |
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| Try watching glasslip, finish it and get back to me if you still don't get it. It's only my opinion so you can beg me, get down on your knees if you have to disagree. Smh even MAL made me become pretentious with this long reply when I just wanted to say watch x anime, it sucks. |
| I like Ergo Proxy because Descartes won't give me better examples of his cogito ergo sum in Meditations I, except for when he spoke of the scenario in which he does not know the difference between awakened state and dreaming state. The anime explored it to some extent. Yay, I'm pretentious. Lain is actually the author time-travelling from the future. Btw, what is the border between most shounen and pretentiousness then, by definition? If something pretends, or purports to be, aren't most shounen like that? Kuroko no Basket, Yugioh, Dragonballz, Toriko, etc. |
| when the author's writing gets a lil too far up his/her own ass |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
Aure0lin said: when the author's writing gets a lil too far up his/her own ass Like Grand Blue. Barely surfaced his ass on diving and because it's too boring for him switched to an altogether different focus. lel |
DepravedMagi said: I've seen this kind of criticism used for certain anime and I still don't understand how can an anime be pretentious. So what would make an anime pretentious? It’s when an anime tries to be d33p but can be easily broken down, for example: NGE looks very d33p, but it’s just an SoL monster of the week Elfen Lied tries to look d33p, but anyone can tell it’s just a really edgy ecchi |
| Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e. At the start of every episode, there is a phrase taken from several authors,. The anime is just a generic adaptation from a VN that tries to be smart with random quotes. I can't take it seriously when there is fanservice and dumb characters. Pretentious. |
| All weebs creatures of the galaxy, hear this message. Those of you who listen will not be struck by western animation. You will no longer know hunger, nor pain. Your Anime have come to lead you now. Our strength shall serve as a luminous sun toward which all intelligence may blossom. And the impervious shelter beneath which you will prosper. However, for those who refuse our offer and cling to their western animation ways… For you, there will be great wrath. |
| tokyo ghoul as for me it tries to be something unique but its not |
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