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| Wow, Anna is so close yet so far away from his brother... I think that douchebag was under Johan order not Karl (I think Johan want her away from him so he can keep using him and also not having his true identity revealed because of Lotte investigation) nonetheless she needs to move on the only thing that was in Karl mind is his father and nothing more... Talk about a chance meeting I think that old soldier maybe changed Tenma determination about killing him in the forest due to him respecting people... |
Roy_FockerJun 13, 2017 10:32 PM
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| Anna/Nina don't have any problems Yeah right xD Feelsbadman :( He can't kill Johan in that forest now |
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| Tenma really seems to be in a downward spiral, if someone deserves a hug it's him. |
| Lotte was really selfish in this episode. Karl has had a terrible childhood up until now, let the man be happy for once and don't think of yourself every single time dammit. I hope she dies. |
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| I hate Lotte. She shouldn't have said that sexist comment that the guy wasn't her type. No wonder she got rejected. Anna better call Lotte as soon as she goes home, cause she can immediately get Johan. Now I notice how NinaAnna looked like Liebert. The eyes. And Tenma, that wasn't some random stare from Johan. He knows you are out there. Judging from what he said to NinaAnna as a child, he don't care if you kill him or not. The focus on food. What is this, Shokugeki no Souma?   Guess Tenma won't be killing Johan for a while. I hope he didn't barf up that soup. DEATH FLAG for Karl. |
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JeremiahOrange said: I hate Lotte. She shouldn't have said that sexist comment that the guy wasn't her type. No wonder she got rejected. how the fuck is that sexist? lmao anyway, nice ep and, if i remember correctly, the next one is one of my favorites! |
| Great to see Nina again!! The episode was cool, I liked the bird analogy at the end too. Seems like the next episode will focus on Dieter |
| Very interesting episode. I love it how they humanized Tenma so far, really well done characterization. |
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Zewerr said: Damn that old man. He had to ruin everything with that damn sympathetic story. Lmao true xDDDDDD |
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| I don't mind if Tenma doesn't kill Johan right now, but it better not be because of that old man's story. It's like Karl forgot about even his adopted parents. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out he has never spent as much time with them as he does with Schuwald. I don't like him. |
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| I like what transpired here, Johan who's a monster, a beast and a vicious criminal had no problems killing Jurgens, yet Tenma who represents all what humanity should be (good, kindness etc) felt sick at the thought of taking a life. I hope Johan dies because of the German flu. |
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SaiDrew said: It's like Karl forgot about even his adopted parents. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out he has never spent as much time with them as he does with Schuwald. I don't like him. That's the part that's been bugging me ever since Schuwald found out about Karl. It feels kind of strange to paint Karl as sympathetic, down to earth, disinterested in Schuwald and apparently finally accepting his foster parents...only to turn around and invalidate that scene entirely. Guess their proposal to adopt him formally was just a fart in the wind to him. Then again, it was also strange and rude of him to pay off that guy to dance with Lotte, I'd be super insulted if that happened to me. Are we supposed to assume his newfound family/standing is changing him? But, somehow, that feels too subtle a narrative considering what we've seen so far. Lotte was annoying this episode, especially when she kept assuming Anna had it easier due to being beautiful. It's obvious Tenma didn't have the guts to shoot Johan. Not only because of the kids around him, but also because he hasn't spiraled enough to actually pull the trigger. And because there's like 40 episodes left, lol. Tenma now officially confirmed as Snow White. |
Pande91Aug 28, 2019 1:25 PM
| This was a powerful way to bring Tenma around and re-humanize him. I thought it was going to be a cheap moral lesson in traditional anime fashion where he just couldn't unbind his Lawful Good chains -- and no shades of moral ambiguity exist, suggesting there's no right time or right reason to kill someone, and Tenma would become unredeemable should he actually kill Johan -- but this was a shockingly tactful turn around with a moving support character arc. Great episode. |
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matheoo41 said: Aren't you forgetting someone? If Johan wanted to, he could probably make Karl kill his foster parents with his own hands. I don't remember all the details since I last saw this, but did Johan even talk to Karl about his adoptive parents at that point? I don't remember them discussing that. To me it seemed more like after Johan facilitated Schuwald and Karl's reunion as father and son, Karl himself dropped the relationship with his adoptive parents without any manipulation/intervention from Johan's part. I agree she went a bit too far, but the way people are, being beautiful makes your life easier, especially if you are a young woman. True, but at her age you'd assume one wouldn't be tactless enough to say it so bluntly unless they were explicitly trying to insult the other person. Edit: also, if this is the episode with the school dance, Lotte's anger was misplaced. Anna had nothing to do with that guy being paid off to dance with Lotte. The longer he puts it off, the more doubt he'll have and the harder it will get. Since he hasn't done it now, I think he'll never get around to it, heck, he will probaly try to save him in the end. While watching this show I expected Tenma to actually become more determined to do away with Johan after witnessing time and time again the destruction he left behind. And I will leave it at that, since saying more would involve spoilers. |
Pande91Oct 16, 2019 1:57 AM
| That ex-soldier must've been paid by Johan. It seems, it's still too early for Tenma to kill Johan, Johan could manipulate Tenma if Tenma is going to meet face to face with Johan that is. |
| He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame. |
| Karl is such a douche! I sympathized with him before, but how could he treat her like that, after all what she did for him, stood by him in his difficult time? I hope she's going to tell him off some day. And he seemed to have forgotten about his forster parents. |
shiroi-ookamiApr 15, 2020 1:47 PM
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| Maybe Lotte should do like a normal person (okay, what she did is considered normal actually) and just y'know, tell Karl she likes him. "Hey, Karl. I like you and was wondering if you'd like to go dancing with me. I got two tickets." Bam, done! |
| interesting things happening to tenma to prevent him murdering. now that nina is in munich, the climax should be more interesting. poor lotte, karl doesn't deserve her. |
| It seems like Tenma couldn't make himself to get rid of Johan once and for all, but this shows what a great human being he truly is. I really wanna see how will it all progress from here and what will Anna and Tenma do |
| Damn this food looks tasty in this show |
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| Tenma didn't kill Johan right away cause he thinks about his "human" side personality, while in previous episode it was clearly bullshit Johan is wicked from the start. |
| Damn man... Tenma is just too good-natured for this |
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| It's always cool seeing anna again. Tenma practicing his stuff was also cool to see |
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| hmmm Tenma might hesitate to assassinate Johan in the forest. also more Anna pls |
| That was a Decent episode |
| I'm not sure that this thing of not kill someone in the forest only applies to the forest. My guess is that this story told by the old man was some kind of analogy to the fact that killing is wrong and life should be respected. It's like that phrase, "if you kill a murder, the world doesn't lose a single murderer, 'cause you also turn into one". |
| anna again yay the way johan looking at tenma,, |
| One side I want Tenma to shoot Johan and end this all but on the other side I don't think he'll be able to handle the guilt especially after hearing the old man's story and seeing Johan's 'human' side. On top of that it'll most likely cause him to no longer perform as neurosurgeon. |
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| Such a weak episode. That first half with Anna having to deal with a heartbroken Lotte was so bad. Also damn you, random old man. Now Tenma won't be able to kill Johan in that "sacred" forest. |
| Lol to the dude above me calling this one weak. loved the ending, i wonder how it will affect tenma moving forward. if i were to guess johan is one of those unstoppable villains that remains till the end of the story to push the story's philosophy. i.e he isnt dying any time soon. |
| The mentioning of his homeland sure triggered something in Johan. I think this is probably one of the very few times where his reaction/facial expression is not faked. As a serial killer, I bet he has experience with shooting and range and can tell that Tenma is smart enough to pick that library spot. How does he know that Tenma is going to shoot him though or has been tailing him? That we don't know yet. |
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| Johan really has insane instincts. He should just hire someone else to actually kill him for him since he's repeatedly hesitated and wasted time and opportunity |
| I never expected Lotte and Nina to become friends. They were a refreshing duo. Johan is freaking creepy I’m sorry old man, but Johan needs to go. |
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| Alright, Karl you fucking asshole, I understand that for the past 20 years of his life, he has never been with his real father, and now that he is, he's basically become the legs and eyes of his father for every meeting that he participated in. In other words, he can't hang around with Lotte as much as he used to, nevertheless, no matter how busy Karl is with his father, he shouldn't have offered some dumbass money in exchange for dancing with Lotte, that is such a dick move. Nina is here, Johan has a way of pulling all of his acquaintances into any city he's in even without so much as an effort. So then, Tenma is working up his courage and abilities to one day assassinate Johan with a brand-spanking new sniper rifle. He has used pistols before and has fired numerous shots towards various armed individuals, but he has never assassinated someone who is not armed not to mention unaware of his intention to kill him. (Though knowing Johan, he has a near 6th sense when it comes to these things). Tenma is visibly broken over having to do so, he looks depressed and the fact that he met a former soldier who is trying to atone for his sin of cold-blooded murder just made it that much more difficult for Tenma to do the same. He's innocent for now, can someone who instinctively save the lives of those he met in his path transgress that act and instead, intentionally take the life of another human? |
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| More Nina is always a W cause i adore her voice pls and Johan is a literal walking gaslighter without looking like he's trying like he's just barely trying. Tenma rlly is a conflicted man abt his thoughts killing Johan or not but sadly or actually not? he wasn't able to do it in the forest but i applause for his kindness at least. |
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| This Johan mf makes you sick without even talking to you. Tenma was literally puking. |
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