| Why is Anime so bad at depicting War? |
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| Different culture, different depiction of war. Germany was the bad guy during WWII and thus their movies tend to portray war as a reminder of Germany's guilt. America was the hero during WWII and thus their movies tend to portray war as a reminder for how heroic America was. Japan was the victim of the atomic bomb during WWII and thus their movies tend to portray war as a reminder of their victimisation. All three depictions are simplifying it. Germany wasn't just evil, America wasn't just heroic and Japan certainly wasn't just a victim. |
| "Why is Anime so bad at depicting War?" Can OP give some examples? |
| Have you seen any canonical Gundam ? |
| just start gundam already! the original one from 1979 and not yuri from mercury |
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| just start Gundam already! the yuri from Mercury one from 2022 and not the original. |
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
| Hmmm, you're probably watching AoT... |
 Maybe try sleeping? |
| That's why Youjo Senki is the greatest Historical/war anime of all time. |
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Catalano said: just start gundam already! the original one from 1979 and not yuri from mercury Holy crap, you made me snort my drink. As for the topic - Grave of the Fireflies? Not you typical tanks and guns, tho. |
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MizunoWaveRider said: Different culture, different depiction of war. Germany was the bad guy during WWII and thus their movies tend to portray war as a reminder of Germany's guilt. America was the hero during WWII and thus their movies tend to portray war as a reminder for how heroic America was. Japan was the victim of the atomic bomb during WWII and thus their movies tend to portray war as a reminder of their victimisation. All three depictions are simplifying it. Germany wasn't just evil, America wasn't just heroic and Japan certainly wasn't just a victim. Cool, sounds you’ve never actually watched German war movies… A good chunk of them portray Germany as the heroes. There’s an exception to every rule, even American movies can portray America as the bad guys in war like in Apocalypse Now. |
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| OP really made it to 3K by making threads with one sentence and then abandons them. It's impressive in a way. |
Tendo_GM said: Post WWII movies don't, they are almost always the same poor folks or single soldiers being terrorised by nazi stereotypes type dramas.MizunoWaveRider said: Different culture, different depiction of war. Germany was the bad guy during WWII and thus their movies tend to portray war as a reminder of Germany's guilt. America was the hero during WWII and thus their movies tend to portray war as a reminder for how heroic America was. Japan was the victim of the atomic bomb during WWII and thus their movies tend to portray war as a reminder of their victimisation. All three depictions are simplifying it. Germany wasn't just evil, America wasn't just heroic and Japan certainly wasn't just a victim. Cool, sounds you’ve never actually watched German war movies… A good chunk of them portray Germany as the heroes. There’s an exception to every rule, even American movies can portray America as the bad guys in war like in Apocalypse Now. Exceptions prove the rule. |
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| Someone hasn't been Gundampilled it seems. The past few generations haven't had to grow up during times of war, so they lack those unique experiences that it takes to write more realistic or interesting scenarios involving it. That's my theory at least. |
| Did you watch every anime which had war as its theme to make this statement? There are some really good shows displaying the horrors of war. But Japan's culture changed after WW2. They realized that belligerence is not what they as a country want so they moved away from it. So many good anime have great anti-war themes. And they are really good. |
| Sasuga, OP. Another thread made by you has become controversial and you earned the attention you needed. 😉 |
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I think I was trying to suggest something about the duality of man, sir.  |
| " Can OP give some examples?" Current highest rated Anime on MAL |
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Dragevard said: Why is Anime so bad at depicting War? What about these works: Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu Uchuu Senkan Yamato Ginga Tetsudou 999 Kidou Senshi Gundam Macross Soukou Kihei Votoms Zipang Area 88 Pumpkin Scissors The Cockpit Yomigaeru Sora: Rescue Wings |
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AOT has nothing to do with war. It's a revenge porn (and the author of the manga admitted it) about becoming a bully . So here we go - you have a dude who didn't know anything about and didn't do a proper research before writing about war. Another example would be 86... But those are only few titles and you claim that the majority of the anime war shows are bad...which is far from true, thus you also didn't do a proper research...thus your take is equally bad as the takes of those guys. |
| Care to provide even a single example to back your claim? |
| Most anime portray war very fairly like Logh, Gundam, and Kingdom. Not always good vs evil. |
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| Some of the issue lies in the "Do Not Do This Cool Thing" dilemma, where media that tries to depict the tragedy and horror of war also portray badass weapons and exhilarating action sequences that depict war as something noble and exciting. |
| May be because stereotype image of Bushido style Samurai is far too different from realities of war. So screenwriters struggle to figure out any workable middle ground between two. Being fiction writers they do not want to deviate too far from Bushido and stereotypes or civilian public in Japan will not get it. In contrast Western public much more accustomed to realities of war so they would find anime depiction of war too far from reality of it. Not to mention Bushido praises bravery and never retreating. I real war you need to dig trenches and hide from bullets, in Australia soldiers are called diggers for that reason. It is stupid to just stand there and catch bullets as Dutch would put it. During actual wars Japanese themselves are also like that. All that Bushido stuff is just for posturing after all. In actual wars they too take cover and wait until enemy stop shouting. However from Japanese Bushido stereotypes that is 'shameful display' so authors avoid that. Civilians would not respect military if they knew that that is what soldiers really do. So stuff like Saving Private Ryan is probably impossible for them. |
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| That is because war itself is so bad. |
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| I don't think anime makers take the counsel of a veteran soldier who served in actual wars as a reference before making war related stuff. |
| Best ending line in anime history = "My name is Saiki Kusuo. I am a psychic." |
| "Why is Anime so bad at depicting War?" Because war sucks |
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Dragevard said: Why is Anime so bad at depicting War? One of the greatest war movies ever made is an anime. Grave of the Fireflies is one of the most harrowingly realistic depictions of war I have ever seen. Barefoot Gen gets an honorable mention.  |
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