| I don’t know since I don’t listen to K-Pop much But what does this have to do with MAL forums? |
| Ah shiet. My favorite Fairy Tale OP was sang by KPOP singers? I don't like Fairy Tale but that song 's a real banger right there. |
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| People who hate Kpop just coz of the fandom are just soo stupid, toxicity is in every fandom, but why worry about that? Grab whatever you can from something and be on your way. |
| The downside of KPop and JPop etc to me is that it is highly exploitative, toxic and filled with a lot of abuses. Lots of stories about it. I like some of the music but that sorta stuff is in the back of my mind so I don't really listen to it. Not that I am really buying anything so it doesn't matter. Just my perspective. I don't dislike it for any other reason though the music can be pretty good. |
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| I only know 2 anisongs sung by Korean groups They're pretty neat but yeah the fangirls suck ass not anime related but this tokusatsu song sounds like K-POP make more of these if you want me on your side |
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| Probably not really but actually yes |
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| The kpop scene is hypercompetetive. People trying out for them need to meet insane demands, especially for people who aren't even 18 yet. It's a very exploitative music scene. |
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| I think the fans do leave a bad stain on a lot of people. |
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| That's just one of the many reasons. The music is fucking TERRIBLE, and it's the most soulless industry out there. |
| Out of the few songs I've heard, it grates my ears, and the over enthusiastic fans don't help. |
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| I think they just bash BTS to trigger their toxic fans or smth |
DefeatingMeSep 26, 2021 12:53 AM
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| Yes, there are definitely some toxic K-Pop fans. Soooooo toxic. But, the same can be said about anime fans too. The reality is people get way to carried away in any fandom with a significant following. It can't be avoided, unfortunately. Personally though, I actually like K-Pop, but the only K-Pop group who's music I think sound like anime music is Dreamcatcher lol (because they have strong rock elements in their music. Well, except B-sides which are VERY different from their usual sound). I was disappointed that the only OP they've done so far was for the lackluster King's Raid anime. And the fact that they didn't even use Deja Vu was like a kick in the gut T^T! (Deja Vu was a song they did for the King's Raid game. It's SUCH a great song and I wish they would have used it...) |
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luminality said: Katanadude said: The music is fucking TERRIBLE, honestly, I think this applies to regular pop music as well? it's always a matter of finding the right artists that strike your fancy to me. i don't like most k-pop songs even as a fan of the genre, but there are some groups and soloists that i can count on to release great songs, just like regular pop music. unless you dislike pop as a whole, which makes my argument irrelevant, though you can always check out k-rnb or k-bands if you like those genres more. regular pop music is better than kpop. so is j-pop, mandopop, latin pop, etc. obviously there are some good kpop out there, but the idol groups are terrible and the music is awful. im quite familiar with korean music, and I do think its good. just not kpop. there's plenty of great korean artists being overshadowed by the garbage that is kpop |
Conceptualhero said: Katanadude said: That's just one of the many reasons. The music is fucking TERRIBLE, and it's the most soulless industry out there. Yeah, I know what you mean. The ones that are in Anime OP/EDs generally are pretty good though. I really enjoyed Fairy Tail OP 15. So much that I went and gave Kpop another look but I still couldn't get into the music. Then I found out there were some in Anime ops and eds, and then to my surprise, many of them were really good. TVXQ (the ones that made the one piece opening) have a good Japanese discography that I recommend checking out. Their kpop music isnt good however. |
| How does KPOP differ from JPOP though? All those idols are the same overused chewing gum. Simple and uninspiring music, mindless songs with no sense, and these notorious cringeworthy group fortnite dances. This is the main reason why people hate it. It's too pretentious while actually primitive and boring. And fans are just typical fanservice fans who prioritise fancy looks over consistency. |
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| "Is KPOP really hated just because of the fans?" Well personally I hate it because I hate pop music in general. "some of my favorite openings were sang by KPOP singers" OK, how OP's taste in music should be relevant to me? |
| Yes and no. Anything can be ruined by a horrendous fanbase, but kpop is one of the biggest offenders here, considering just how rabid some of the fans can be (rumors had it that some of the fans would try kidnapping their favorite idols). That aside, I think there’s also other reasons people would hate kpop too and not just cuz of the fans, one of the reasons being the fact that the kpop industry itself is very exploitative compared to other industries (e.g. how their everyday life is being micromanaged). Personally, I don’t like kpop due to how uncreative most of the songs are, let it be lazy lyric writing to subpar music production, but that’s my take on it. |
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| Everyone has different reasons, but I indeed know many people who came to dislike Kpop because they've been hurt or offended by the fans. One of the general reasons (and also my case) is how Kpop fans tend to belittle Jpop artists for "not being as good as Korean artists", which is hilarious since Kpop industry is generally inhumane towards idols and trainees. They even go as far as bully Jpop fandom for reasons currently unknown to me. Plus, honestly, demographically speaking, Kpop has a great deal of young fans who have little manners and even though every fandom has a toxic side, it's literally incomparable to millions of uncontrollable obsessive teenage girls. Conceptualhero said: FarhanLakho1 said: I don’t know since I don’t listen to K-Pop much But what does this have to do with MAL forums? Dunno I heard anime fans and Kpop fans have beef with each other or something. I'm not sure about anime fans, but Jpop fans tend to either stay away from Kpop ones or have fights frequently. My guess is that most Jpop fans enjoy anime (like they would watch the show with their fav song as an OP etc.), thus you get such an impression. I'm pretty sure simply being an anime fan has nothing to do with disliking Kpop, though. |
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| Besides the fans the industry is really a big pile of dogshit and the fans are just the bonus of dogshit added on to the pile. Note this does not mean i hate the music i actually enjoy some songs very much. |
AstZeroSep 26, 2021 4:10 PM
| The beauty of humans is that they say one thing then do another, but at the same time that can also be their ugliest side. |
| I partially hate it because of the fans, but the biggest reason is that the music fucking sucks as hell. Hell I would rather watch Boku no Pico 10 times than listen to some song made by plastic faced people |
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| It's quite easy to avoid fans, and K-pop is an umbrella term to cover literally any music that comes out of Korea, there is something for EVERYONE. People just get offended over popular stuff. I get it if you don't like the loud/busy sound or the over the top choreographies or outfits, I can name so many artists who don't do that but they get overlooked or ignored because they fall under "K-pop" |
| Speaking for myself, I don't like pop music in general, Korean or not, taking 'pop music' to mean 'music from, or similar to, these top charts'. The personal and public perception of K-pop fandom and how K-pop is now mainstream in my country (Indonesia) isn't helping me at all. It's the tale as old as time: big fandoms invite big vocal minorities which doomscrollers and algorithms like. Late 2000s to early 2010s K-pop slaps, though. |
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| There is zero difference between kpop fans and anime fans, one has an obsession over real-life koreans, the other over fictional japanese characters |
| like others have said it's exploitative so I avoid it. if it's happen to be my anime song then it's okay. like I won't promote it. |
| Kpop is actually really good, I love their songs but the fandom is meh. +Many otaku/weebs don't like Kpop but in actual most of the Kpop artists are one of us anime lovers. |
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Conceptualhero said: Near1267 said: Kpop is actually really good, I love their songs but the fandom is meh. +Many otaku/weebs don't like Kpop but in actual most of the Kpop artists are one of us anime lovers. The Kpop group that sang One Piece opening 10 and 11 were big fans of One Piece! Yepyep + everlasting shine and beautiful were also sang by Kpop groups. |
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| I do like KPop songs, they do have some certain beats that makes them different. But I would not want to be associated with the stan. They're basically the similar breed to their hardcore Japanese idol fan, but lack the self restraint in public online spaces. |
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| Maybe there's a lot of obnoxious and annoying fans, but that to a point can be ignored. However the many fishy aspects of the kpop industry are not that easy to. Its artificial popularity schemes, its treatment of idols, their unnatural growth, the heavily competitive mindset it creates and transmits to the fans (armies are... really something that exists). Maybe I'd like a lot of kpop songs if I listened to them individually, but hearing about how much of a shitty and borderline dystopic place the industry is it feels like a rabbit hole I really don't want to get into. |
jal90Dec 6, 2021 5:20 PM
| If I have to be honest I'm not into kpop but I like some of their debut that's japanese only like TxT doing a debut called "Everlasting Shine" and Treasure doing a debut called "BEAUTIFUL", both from Black Clover and I like it. |
| some are good but some are meh I turn it off within 20 seconds - I find some k-drama OST songs are generally better/more memorable melodies than k-pop |
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Conceptualhero said: I was going through anime openings and just found out some of my favorite openings were sang by KPOP singers. 1. I have to admit, the songs are catchy, but there is something about the fans. Share the world was such great opening. It was serious spoiler tho. |
| i actually can't see what to hate about kpop except the fans, so yeah |
| I just don't like KPOP. Maybe my taste in music is not in KPOP. KPOP means Korean POP, but the music is mostly EDM, R&B, Hiphop. Meanwhile, my favorite music genre is POP. In comparison, Japanese Language is easier to follow than Korean Language, so you might be able to sing the Japanese song you just listened to than KPOP. And after all, Japanese songs have music that is much more unique but still pleasant to hear. BTW my favorite Japanese artists are 48 Group and 46 Group. This is just my personal opinion. |
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| I think that's it because the music is otherwise pretty inoffensive imo. |
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| Yes, because no one cares about the fact that it's more of a slave industry than music industry. |
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| People hate Kpop because of many reasons. One of the reason is that the fandom is shit. Every girl screaming the names of bts guys is kind of annoying (If you have ever dealt with one in real life) Kpop and korean music industry right now relies on makeup. Every single member of a boy band looks like a fricking girl. There is no sign of manliness or testosterone in them. As a man, this is kind of insulting. I dont mind if they are cute or thin, but there action and makeup and stuff are all feminine which looks weird. At least I dont particularly hate their music or dance cause some of them aint half bad but hating them is almost for the same reason we used to hate one direction or other boy bands with these characteristics. |
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