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Aug 22, 2021 6:00 AM
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Tbh, Alicia is starting to grow to me as a character in this arc. And yikes, this arc has claimed another victim.

On the other hand, Kimihiko and Siesta really makes an interesting pair in this show despite their different personalities. Kimihiko with the eyepatch though...that actually makes him look kinda badass if you ask me.

Aug 22, 2021 6:00 AM
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Siesta and kimizuka are figuring out who's the one pretending to be fake Fuubi.
Alicia's words touched the lady's heart, so she thought that Alicia was like her daughter.

Wait, so Alicia is Hel?! And that's why Alicia doesn't know who she is
Aug 22, 2021 6:00 AM
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looks like the mystery for this case in London is over, Alicia's real identity, this is surprise, I didn't expect Alicia to be an impostor all this time, The moment when Alicia was hospitalized and Alicia's investigation and defense case was just... What is clear is that it is not an act of defense, but an attack. Still continuing the journey to save their friends...



Aug 22, 2021 6:47 AM
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Siesta and Alicia have their differences but Kimizuka is the link that connects them with each other. Alicia is really cute. I can't stop hearing Kanna in her voice. Siesta doesn't like the fact of Kmizuka being with Alicia that much. LOL, Too bad, there's another victim that got involved in this whole mess.

Well, now we know who Alicia really is. I knew it was all building up to something but certainly didn't expect that.
Aug 22, 2021 6:53 AM
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It was quite boring before but now the plot is becoming more interesting, so Alicia was Hel from the beginning? Damn, and now they have to travel to save her hmm, I guess Siesta died during that part of the story.
Aug 22, 2021 7:01 AM
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The mystery is finally oveer. After some comedic and fanservice episodes, the plot is moving forward. Alice was Hell the whole time. Damn I loved her tho, she was pretty funny. And rip to another victim.

Oh and after knowing that Alicia is Hel, then it wouldn't suprise me that Nagisa is Hel too (same eyecolor)
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Aug 22, 2021 7:03 AM
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So Alicia is Hel (Codename: Hel)?
Or Alicia has two personalities and one of them was Hel (Codename: Hel)?
I'm honestly lost...

Oh and is Siesta moving at the speed of light something she can do or is it because she had it all planned? Xd
Aug 22, 2021 7:03 AM
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Someone call the FBI on this guy.

That episode was pretty intense, compared to the previous ones, so far. I like that twist. Since they still consider her as a friend/teammate, I'm curious to see if they can actually redeem her after all the things she has done.

Aug 22, 2021 7:10 AM
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The "Alicia was actually Hel but lost her memories" twist is dumb and came out from nowhere

Not that I dislike this flashback arc to Siesta, but there's really nothing really noteworthy besides Siesta getting herself a mecha
Aug 22, 2021 7:11 AM

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Kimihiko's chinobyou eye patch is killing me, yes I know it's to protect his eye but it's funny nonetheless xD!

Well, didn't see that coming did I, turns out alicia has bpd or something and she was the murdered
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Aug 22, 2021 7:27 AM

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Still in the case about Alicia, and the possibility of her being Hel is quite high, finally the plot can move forward. No matter how much differences are there between Siesta and Alicia, Kimizuka is the One True Link inseparable.

Another heart is lost, the fifth in a row. And interrogating the victim's loved ones while they're still in shock, I must admit that the way Siesta hard-studded her was uncalled for, and Alicia managed to get a relief on that, even if it meant that Hel was involved in this case after taking over from Cerberus.

That was actually quite the dignified vow between Kimizuka and Alicia, almost like a proposal that's between detectives. But dang Siesta has to come in at the wrong time to see it happen and assume it that way. What are they, mentally 7 years old?

The way that Alicia was acting along with the next victim, that already seemed like a sus move, I can smell it from afar, and Kimizuka lands himself in that precarious situation of identifying that the heart-stabber Alicia was Hel all along the hard way, along with Siesta who figured out the facade game easy. She's the true imposter among them all, and I kid you not, Kimizuka's brains must've been fried or something just for plot convenience for Siesta to fill in the blanks. So that's why Alicia felt that she had a double who was 17 (the real Hel), but just couldn't remember for the life of her.

I've long been bearing Kimizuka' pep talk, but he couldn't even save those close to him, that's repeated with Alicia. The difference between being human and a machine, and coupled that with SPES's real motive, the plot has its tone shift to save the real Alicia.

Hopefully things will be better going forward with SPES's arc. Two rights don't make a right.
Aug 22, 2021 8:09 AM

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I feel like this series is slipping. Siesta wanted Alicia dead but then at the end of the episode she want's to rescue her. Kimizuka plants the chip in Alicia but does not want to believe she is against them.

This episode was cringe af at times as well like Jesus lord.

Siesta even says in the episode that you shouldn't be swayed by emotions and they both do it CONSTANTLY. I just don't know anymore.

Also this is one hell of a flash back and what happened to the blonde haired chick???
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Aug 22, 2021 8:11 AM

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lol wtf is this, it keeps getting more boring each episode, Kimizuka is just so boring as a MC, and all the scenes look so weird.
Well idk what people were expecting from the same studio that made Uzaki-chan, and it's sad too because the light novels apparently aren't this bad.
Aug 22, 2021 8:11 AM

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Yeah it just not very compelling to see some serial murder cases with this all happy-go-lucky anime fun time. Maybe that sounds like such a dumb thing to say because you’re indeed, watching an anime, but it really makes me think that no matter what, anime feels bound to its patterns and mannerisms.
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Aug 22, 2021 8:12 AM
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Oh my. Our male lead is living out every lolicon dream T_T




Maybe one day I'll get to marry a pretty murderous cute girl as well lol
Aug 22, 2021 8:16 AM
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Clas1ck said:
So Alicia is Hel (Codename: Hel)?
Or Alicia has two personalities and one of them was Hel (Codename: Hel)?
I'm honestly lost...

Oh and is Siesta moving at the speed of light something she can do or is it because she had it all planned? Xd

Form what I understood Alicia has two personalities
Aug 22, 2021 8:23 AM
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Kimizuka is doing what Ararararagi wanted all the time. From preview for next ep looks like it wont be outsorced, maybe due to novels suscess animation will be better for finale.
Aug 22, 2021 8:28 AM

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So Alicia has dual personality and her other half is Hel eh. She got taken away too. Kimizuka and Siesta gonna try and save her huh, I wonder if this is the mission when Siesta dies, proly I think.
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Aug 22, 2021 8:43 AM
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Episode 8 of Tanmoshi
It was not outsourced
It was full lenght with no opening nor ending
That knew exactly where to end and how to do it
That made for some emotional scenes to a degree
And dialogue with connection felt quite good
I did not expect to see such a well made one.
Aug 22, 2021 8:43 AM

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It really gets worse with every episode ugh
Aug 22, 2021 8:45 AM

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So Alicia is now revealed to be Hel. Kinda seems a bit random to be honest.
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Aug 22, 2021 9:22 AM
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What the fuck is this show? I am disappointed. Watching this anime gave me severe mental issues and stage 3 cancer, as well as an additional 10-30 cringe attacks each episode. The drama is more cringe than a love story between first graders. The mystery isn't even that good and this is more boring than listening to my grandma tell stories about how she learned how to operate a lamp
Aug 22, 2021 9:26 AM
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I think the anime is getting worse and worse per episode the more episodes they make the more bad it get .
Aug 22, 2021 9:30 AM

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"We must kill her now! Watch me put my gun to her head" 5 minutes later "Lets make some fucking apple pie and then rescue our Nakama! Hell ya!"
Aug 22, 2021 9:30 AM

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This was the first episode I thought was really good since the premiere.
Aug 22, 2021 9:55 AM

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Cool so Alice is Hel and now it's up to Siesta and Kimizuka to rescue her (even though Siesta had full intentions of killing her like 3 minutes prior). And of course they have DIO voicing the bad guy 💀
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Aug 22, 2021 9:57 AM

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Siesta and kimizuka make a good pair tbh.

Alicia was hel and she didn’t remember anything.
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Aug 22, 2021 10:19 AM

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This was the best episode we’ve had in a while honestly. Whole Alicia being Hel shouldn’t have been too surprising giving the last loli’s betrayal, it did catch me off guard and I found myself becoming quite attached to her over the course of the ep. With the amount of remaining eps left I’m guessing siesta’s death will be related to trying to save Alicia
Aug 22, 2021 11:55 AM

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So now they're off to save Hel, I mean Alicia and when they do she'll probably stab Siesta to death while she's sleeping.
Aug 22, 2021 12:30 PM
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Me: This anime cannot get any cringier

This anime: Hold my lolicon fanservice


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Aug 22, 2021 1:39 PM
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"700 nautical miles to the north on a solitary island"... why don't they prepare a questionaire then if info is available just on asking.
Aug 22, 2021 1:46 PM
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This anime is trying too hard. Even so, it doesn't make sense. Also Siesta thinks the circumstances under which she met Alicia supports the fact that she is Hel. How?? Why would Hel be so close to Siesta so unnecessarily? Hel has upper hand. It is more difficult to look for someone in a city than it is to hide from someone. Hel has supernatural abilities. Also the fact is Siesta came to this city to solve a case. That she and Kimizuka met a child at that time is not weird. There are homeless children in most cities. It was Kimizuka that decided to look after her.
Aug 22, 2021 2:15 PM
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This one was a little off to me. The alicia stuff felt a little weird but hopefully next episode will be better

but takehito koyasu's voice is always nice to hear



Aug 22, 2021 3:17 PM

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Loli was impostor all along, daamn.

I am gonna facepalm if Siesta died because Kimi was in lolicon mode until the last second tho.
Aug 22, 2021 4:03 PM

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Ouch for Siesta; Alicia claiming Kimi as her sidekick...

So Alicia having that moment of humanity with the mother of the victims was because the victim's heart was inside her, damn.

While not the Blue Sapphire, Kimi bought the sapphire ring as a "gift" for Alicia, really a tracking device. Awkward moment for Siesta.

If the theory that Hel will become Nagisa is true and Nagisa has Siesta's heart, then Nagisa's the combination of Kimi's two previous love interests? 0_0

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Aug 22, 2021 4:19 PM
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that plot Twist in relation to Alicia I always thought she was kind of weird who plot Twist in relation to Alicia with her way of acting.

Kimihiko with an eye patch looked cool.
Aug 22, 2021 5:37 PM
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The worst episode so far for me. The loli pervert engagement ring part was bad...no... was terrible. Then the "hold my hand" part was cringe worthy. Now we skip merrily down the Alicia Redemption Arc story line. /facepalm

MC was disappointing in dialogue and action. It's ......just......bad....
I was going to drop it down a point in scoring and then I noticed I only rate the series a 5/10. As long as the series doesn't try to sell me Flex Seal or Combat Rated Sunglasses, the score can just sit at 5.
Aug 22, 2021 5:42 PM
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2 words... Loli bait XD
Aug 22, 2021 5:55 PM

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Heh, we got some lolicon fan service in this episode. Wow, what a plot twist, Alicia was Hel all along! Damn, Alicia is really growing on me. New objective, save Alicia!
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Aug 22, 2021 6:12 PM

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This entire episode was so unbearably forced. I'm not sold on Kimizuka and Alicia's relationship at all. All they've done together was roam around the streets aimlessly "solving mysteries" and for whatever reason that was enough to get Kimizuka to pull a gun on Siesta, the girl he's loved for years now? Also, the tonal shift at the end was jarring. Alicia was taken from them by Chameleon and then after they're gone, the two of them resolve to go buy some juicy apples with smiles on their faces... Sure bro. Sure. This anime is beyond saving.
Aug 22, 2021 6:27 PM
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I had a feeling from the start that Alicia was Hel. The specific timing and such was just too perfect for it to be just a coincidence. Also a girl in perfect-condition clothes laying in a box in the alleyway? That was just too perfect. But the story just got more interesting. I mean, they have a new comrade, so that is nice.

One issue I am starting to have with this show is that they have 3 episodes of introducing a new character with Siesta's heart in them, and then they don't even mention that new character for 5+ episodes. I understand that the current episodes are flashbacks, but still. I want to see more of the new character instead of not even knowing of her existence. Switching timelines might be too complicated, so they might be doing everything that they can.
Aug 22, 2021 6:35 PM
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W. O. W. Surprise motherfucker with the culprit revelations revealed to be that cute loli, and looks like she was also an android fugitive from SPES. I can't believe it, the same with Siesta that appeared everywhere in an instant. Oh well. However, they couldn't figure out there's someone else at the church indicated that there's something bad goin on for them at the last journey. So, yeah, the end will be post-poned, for the last journey of them both. Oh, yeah, forgot its actually three. Because looks like the next until the last will also be included with the last girl tour appearance, Charlotte. Fine, fine, i understand this simple journey story. Lets continue the waifu parade great moment, until the very last second....
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Aug 22, 2021 6:45 PM

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Aug 22, 2021 7:24 PM
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Tbh, I think this arc, is getting a bit too predictable. I really like this anime for its unpredictability, and siesta's analysis is sometimes so unpredictable, yet so simple which make her admirable as a detective (yes she's my waifu and no I'm not a simp). In this episode however, I can almost predict all of its "plot twists" which make it less interesting. But, the enemy's appearance is something I didn't think of, which kinda make it a plot twist. I thought that was roswaal from re:zero smh.
Well, that's what I think from this episode.
Aug 22, 2021 9:15 PM
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Worst show I have ever watched. Cant wait for it to be done. I blame the fans, you are quite delusional.
Aug 22, 2021 9:44 PM

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That some crunchy fucking carrots Kimizuka served up and even has more expression than him honestly

And another case strikes again, Damn that horrifying glare from Siesta just say's Kimizuka a lolicon in a lot of words

As the anime was cold from the beginning of the arc but now it's going through some phases as it gets a lot more intense pertaining to who Alicia is and her murderous intent.
Aug 23, 2021 2:25 AM

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Something is definitely wrong with Kimizuka's eyepatch, it disappeared in one angle and returned in the other.

Aug 23, 2021 4:46 AM

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Alicia said she suddenly saw the world in a different light, like she became healthier or something like that, it reminded me of Nagisa. So I am assuming that's what happened to Nagisa as well, Hel is inside her like Alicia. Alicia got what she wanted, she was reborn into a detective. Their eyes look too much alike for it to just be a coincidence. Though I wonder about the whole she has Siesta's heart thing, I guess that's what makes her a detective.

Kimi really proposed to the loli lmao. Honestly should have felt something this episode, but the way everything is presented is just so shit. They just adapted this half heartedly and then called it a day. Even if it's just advertisement for the light novel, they could have put some effort in it ya know. But hey, I guess it's working since I kinda want to start reading the light novel and realize how bad the anime is even more.
Aug 23, 2021 4:52 AM

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I dont think I've been this dissapointed in a show for a long time. I'm still not sure where its going story wise. We know Siesta dies and the only mystery is how that happens.

I'm not sure what the point of anything is after that.
Aug 23, 2021 7:32 AM
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Another bad guy shown and it’s none other than dio himself.
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