DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
Crazy Rena! Keiichi miraculously survived. And Rika and Satoko are both dead? WTF?! Nurse and Mion are sus! lol |
Arthur_Pendragon said: ovy7 said: or maybe the reverse happened You guys should keep in mind that the ending shows K1 having the same symptoms as Rena (scratching his neck), so Yeah, that's also a possibility. |
 |
| "The distortions in the light growing more twisted" "Logic lost to me now" : D And also: "She sneered as she declared she wanted it all" Opening analysing is seriously awesome. |
GaichiOct 23, 2020 12:49 AM
"A half moon, it has a dark half and a bright half, just like me…", Yuno Gasai |
Vector5003 said: It would be much better if they just adapted Higurashi correctly ... the end of this arc was so bad, I'm afraid of what they will do going forward What do you mean adapt higurashi correctly? This is entirely new material. |
kofmaster said: Skizo10 said: How anyone could survive all of those stabs ??? How did Keiichi survived after all those stabbings ?????? and rena just died with hit by a'clock ! are they / we dumb or what for presuming that we will believe that shity scene !! I'm grateful that i watched the OG in the past weeks because this show not scary at all ! this episode is pure garbage + censoring WTFF Unfortunately This sequel will probably end with a lower score 6.5 something like that If you watched the old show the past weeks you should have realize that Keiichi was still badly hurt and Mion said tha him surviving was a miracle. So while it wasn't as bad as it was shown, Rena did more than likely attack him and injured him to some extent. |
Zeus_Strider said: you'll have to forgive me for not being hip but I just got to ask cuz I seen a couple people using "L5" and I know what you're referring to but why is it "L5"? I understand where the "K1" came from but I can't figure out the other abbreviation. It's just |
| Idk what Ryukishi's planning, but I'm here for it |
| Welp, that went from 0 to 100 fast. Also how the heck he isn't dead / able to move after being stabbed so many times with this much blood loss on the floor , and not being treated asap? |
Xenocrisi said: There’s definitely something off about this adaptation, and I’m not talking about how all events were changed. The scenes are just not scary at all, or not enough at least All in all great episode, it did good in setting the mood, bus as I said, the scenes were not that scary. While I can tell you that the 2006 vers. made me shit my pants countless times Anyways, how did Keiichi survived after all those stabbings LMAO that fight was intense asf but it made no sense at all Really?I watched the previous season about a year ago and that too every night,but this episode was as scary if not more than previous one and I am watching it in BROAD DAYLIGHT.I am loving this |
Hoondarrh said: I will preface this with that the content of Higurashi is good. However, the studio that picked this up doesn't understand how to make a fucking Horror anime. All the subtlety, all the atmosphere has been ripped away from the show. It's like I'm being slapped in the face with a brick written "horror." Even that is a stretch though, as all the expressions are ridiculous and comical, the art and animation are bad to average at best. I'm not expecting to be surprised by anything as I've seen the original adaptation several times before, but how is this acceptable to even new viewers? Is this good or shocking to those of you? I'm genuinely curious. I think it's been well over a decade since a horror anime has come out that has impressed me. I guess when the director of Gou hasn't ever touched anything remotely related to this genre, this is the sort of dogshit you're left with. Dude I have watched the first two seasons and I can say this is good,I am feeling thrilled,excited and craving for more and if any anime does that I'd say it is good |
littleproblems said: I am surprised no one is talking about when the meta world overlay appeared along with The chain lock was set after K1 let Rena in K1 did not kill Rena or himself Rena did not kill K1 or herself K1 and Rena were the only two in the household at the time of death There is no meta to be observed when we are barely given anything to work with. The weapon that was used to attack Keiichi was seemingly used to carry the murder of Satoko and Rika, the Rika case took place one day after Keiichi's so the killer likely took the Knife from Keiichi's house and placed it there. We are not given a specific time for when the murder happened, so it's possible that Rika and Satoko were already dead a day before and their bodies were only discovered a day later. |
| I noticed something about some people that post in this "discussion" thread. They dont really care and dont read any of the previous posts. 10 people may be talking about Keichi having hallucinations and the next poster will outright ignore all of that and question the quality of the writing because Keichi survived. It amazes me. Why even bother sharing your thoughts anyway? |
littleproblems said: Devil_Slayer said: Why is it likely that Rena talked Keiichi (presumably first)? You see in a shot that she seemed extremely prepared, but did she not bring a weapon. She used a kitchen knife from Maebara's mansion. I think he self-harmed himself.Keiichi was still badly hurt and Mion said tha him surviving was a miracle. So while it wasn't as bad as it was shown, Rena did more than likely attack him and injured him to some extent. The items that were shown are mostly used in dealing with dead bodies. She likely planned to cut his body to part so it's easier to get rid of and remove the evidence. |
Zeus_Strider said: you'll have to forgive me for not being hip but I just got to ask cuz I seen a couple people using "L5" and I know what you're referring to but why is it "L5"? I understand where the "K1" came from but I can't figure out the other abbreviation. LV5 is a non context spoiler for fans that have watched the old series. Basically, open only if you really want to spoil yourself, |
ssjokgOct 23, 2020 2:15 AM
| Well. that was a funny episode. That stabbing scene just fell flat. I was already taken out of the experience by how over the top it was, then we get a censor circle to make things even worse XD |
Devil_Slayer said: DAME DA... ZEN ZEN DAME DA ZE UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOlittleproblems said: I am surprised no one is talking about when the meta world overlay appeared along with The chain lock was set after K1 let Rena in K1 did not kill Rena or himself Rena did not kill K1 or herself K1 and Rena were the only two in the household at the time of death There is no meta to be observed when we are barely given anything to work with. The weapon that was used to attack Keiichi was seemingly used to carry the murder of Satoko and Rika, the Rika case took place one day after Keiichi's so the killer likely took the Knife from Keiichi's house and placed it there. We are not given a specific time for when the murder happened, so it's possible that Rika and Satoko were already dead a day before and their bodies were only discovered a day later.  |
littleproblems said: Devil_Slayer said: DAME DA... ZEN ZEN DAME DA ZE UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOThere is no meta to be observed when we are barely given anything to work with. The weapon that was used to attack Keiichi was seemingly used to carry the murder of Satoko and Rika, the Rika case took place one day after Keiichi's so the killer likely took the Knife from Keiichi's house and placed it there. We are not given a specific time for when the murder happened, so it's possible that Rika and Satoko were already dead a day before and their bodies were only discovered a day later. Sigh fine.... It's possible for Rika and Satoko murdered to have occurred before Rena visited Keiichi and the bodies were simply found a day later, since we never got a confirmation for their death time, only the timing of discovering of the bodies. The door was locked from inside but we never had confirmation about the windows so it's possible for [x] to carry the murder from the through going in and out from the window. The timing of the death isn't a problem if they simply bleed to death after the culprit left, he won't be needed in the scene of the crime |
| i'm glad every time i come to the newest ep discussion thread there's lots of pages to read lol helps clarifying the confusion on another note... because of the animation rena is cute even when going crazy and stabbing someone haha <3 |
Devil_Slayer said: Sigh fine.... It's possible for Rika and Satoko murdered to have occurred before Rena visited Keiichi and the bodies were simply found a day later, since we never got a confirmation for their death time, only the timing of discovering of the bodies. The door was locked from inside but we never had confirmation about the windows so it's possible for [x] to carry the murder from the through going in and out from the window. The timing of the death isn't a problem if they simply bleed to death after the culprit left, he won't be needed in the scene of the crime Sorry to for butting in but I want to add that We dont see Keichi setting his chain lock when Rena enters his house. Nobody died in their confrontation. Nobody stated that Rena died, only that she wasnt saved. If they didnt find her body, be it a corpse or a living one, then "not saved" can refer to her being "demoned away". Also regarding the deaths of Rika and Satoko: The weapon wasnt the same one used in Keichi's house. They simply meant the two of them were killed by the same weapon, be it their own kitchen knife or one the murderer brought with them. It could be Rika mercy killing Satoko and then killing herself; Satoko going LV5 and attacking Rika or killing herself and then Rika also committing suicide; Rena killing them both, before visiting Keichi or after being "demoned away", because see saw Rika secretly talking with Keichi; a random burglar; or someone from "Tokyo". We dont know anything other that their dead bodies were discovered. We dont even know if the they were really killed by a kitchen knife in the first place. I didnt see any mention about the locks of Rika's house. I dont respond o that in case I missed it. |
ssjokg said: Devil_Slayer said: Sigh fine.... It's possible for Rika and Satoko murdered to have occurred before Rena visited Keiichi and the bodies were simply found a day later, since we never got a confirmation for their death time, only the timing of discovering of the bodies. The door was locked from inside but we never had confirmation about the windows so it's possible for [x] to carry the murder from the through going in and out from the window. The timing of the death isn't a problem if they simply bleed to death after the culprit left, he won't be needed in the scene of the crime Sorry to for butting in but I want to add that We dont see Keichi setting his chain lock when Rena enters his house. Nobody died in their confrontation. Nobody stated that Rena died, only that she wasnt saved. If they didnt find her body, be it a corpse or a living one, then "not saved" can refer to her being "demoned away". Also regarding the deaths of Rika and Satoko: The weapon wasnt the same one used in Keichi's house. They simply meant the two of them were killed by the same weapon, be it their own kitchen knife or one the murderer brought with them. It could be Rika mercy killing Satoko and then killing herself; Satoko going LV5 and attacking Rika or killing herself and then Rika also committing suicide; Rena killing them both, before visiting Keichi or after being "demoned away", because see saw Rika secretly talking with Keichi; a random burglar; or someone from "Tokyo". We dont know anything other that their dead bodies were discovered. We dont even know if the they were really killed by a kitchen knife in the first place. I didnt see any mention about the locks of Rika's house. I dont respond o that in case I missed it. I was playing following his game rules in tbh, because we are just given way too little evidence or info to work within the actual show, it's pointless to try and figure what happened. Because a matter of fact, we never saw how, or when, Rena died, only the fact that she was dead by the time Keiichi work up was acknowledged. I thought the same weapon was used to kill Satoko and Rika, my bad then. This makes things so much easier though. |
| Very... deceitful episode, to say the least. Yes, yes, we also noticed the stabbing sequence was kind of a joke. Yes, we also know the 2006 Higurashi was more scary because it was the first time you were watching it, yes. Great point. It is what happens with modern animation. Loses its charm the second time you see it. Anyways, like every spoiler box says, a lot of deceit in the strong scenes in this episode. Can't wait to stop reading spoiler boxes and read actual discussion in the next episodes. I seriously don't remember the nurse from 2006 Higurashi, what a cool scene. If I have to hate something from this episode, was the sound of the neck scratching. That was unpleasant to listen to. |
| "Manga readers are annoying, all they do is complain or spoil the anime we discuss in an anime forum. They should really do their whining at manga forums." Stolen from Janethan23. Add in visual novel readers too |
| My actual theory regarding this matter is, Rena was already at L5 after she , after she saw Keiichi reading and investigating she grew subspecies of him due to Paranoia and though he was into her. This belief was furthered when Keiichi started talking to a Policeman, so she tried to get rid of him quickly before rat her out. |
Devil_Slayer said: we never saw how, or when, Rena died, only the fact that she was dead by the time Keiichi work up was acknowledged. It is never acknowledged that Rena was dead. She may have been passed out. Keichi wasnt shown checking on her body and even if he did he is now far too unreliable to be tusted. We dont even know if the body there is real and not his hallucination. If he can hallucinate and entire fight and multiple stabs then a "corpse" is also possible. |
ssjokg said: Devil_Slayer said: we never saw how, or when, Rena died, only the fact that she was dead by the time Keiichi work up was acknowledged. It is never acknowledged that Rena was dead. She may have been passed out. Keichi wasnt shown checking on her body and even if he did he is now far too unreliable to be able to tell. We dont even know if the body there is real and not his hallucination. If he can hallucinate and entire fight and multiple stabs then a "corpse" is also possible. Rena's death was acknowledged by Mion, Keiichi's PoV is not reliable as he is shown to hallucination and extreme paranoia. Keiichi's wounds may have been self-inflicted or in fact he Rena did attack him and he imagined part of the fight and not all of it. |
Devil_Slayer said: ssjokg said: It is never acknowledged that Rena was dead. She may have been passed out. Keichi wasnt shown checking on her body and even if he did he is now far too unreliable to be able to tell. We dont even know if the body there is real and not his hallucination. If he can hallucinate and entire fight and multiple stabs then a "corpse" is also possible. Rena's death was acknowledged by Mion, Keiichi's PoV is not reliable as he is shown to hallucination and extreme paranoia. Keiichi's wounds may have been self-inflicted or in fact he Rena did attack him and he imagined part of the fight and not all of it. Mion never said that Rena was found dead. She said she wasnt saved. For the villagers being "demoned away" is the same as not being saved. |
ssjokg said: Devil_Slayer said: Rena's death was acknowledged by Mion, Keiichi's PoV is not reliable as he is shown to hallucination and extreme paranoia. Keiichi's wounds may have been self-inflicted or in fact he Rena did attack him and he imagined part of the fight and not all of it. Mion never said that Rena was found dead. She said she wasnt saved. For the villagers being "demoned away" is the same as not being saved. The context of being "saved" in this conversation is cleary Keiichi asking whatever was Rena was dead or not, not to mention saying that Rena wasn't saved in the implication that she went "missing" to an outsider like Keiichi is mispointed Since the context of "saved" here can mean one more than one thing, my theory still stands unless it's stated in Red that Rena didn't die or her status are at least unknown. |
Devil_Slayer said: ssjokg said: Mion never said that Rena was found dead. She said she wasnt saved. For the villagers being "demoned away" is the same as not being saved. The context of being "saved" in this conversation is cleary Keiichi asking whatever was Rena was dead or not, not to mention saying that Rena wasn't saved in the implication that she went "missing" to an outsider like Keiichi is misprinted. Since the context of "saved" her can mean one more than one thing, my theory still stand unless it's stated in Red that Rena didn't die or her status are at least unknown. We dont have context when nobody speaks clearly. If Mion knows Keichi knows about the curse then it doesnt matter. Actually I dont think it matter at all whether she knows that he knows. She doesnt refer it to as demoned away. I am just saying that her life status is up for debate. |
| Since the clinic is closed Satoko should evolve the HS to LV5 because she needs to get the medicine from Irie But I'm not sure if 2-3 days without the medicine would be enough |
 |
| How does ANYONE survive that many stabs to the guts?????! |
| I did not expect this ending. This confirms with absolute certainty it is a sequel. I guess Keiichi was right in Higurashi 1st season to stop Rena from entering his house. I really liked the part where Rika talked to Keiichi this episode. |
 |
| Ok, how the fuck did Keiichi survive that....and that censoring was annoying. The stabbing scene was laughable for me. But I actually think I made a fault here, I definitely should've started with the Deen version first and reading the comments made me realize that. Well, it's still enjoyable for me, so it's not that bad. |
| Guys..... the scene is mostly just Keiichi's paranoia and she didn't actually stab him that many times. How many times must this be said. |
| Omg how can he survive? |
 |
| All the Blue Truth in this thread makes me wish for a proper Umineko adaptation T_T |
|
Devil_Slayer said: Guys..... the scene is mostly just Keiichi's paranoia and she didn't actually stab him that many times. How many times must this be said. Goats are fine with reaching the "bad writing" theory and giving up there. |
| The thing with continuously explaining stuff is that those are spoilers for first-timers, as they aren't supposed to know of this stuff. IMO the episode discussion threads should be split into 2, one for first-timers and one for people who already watched/read Higurashi, like r/anime does it. |
|
| horrifying battle with Mad Rena!! the alarm clock remove Rena's hp, before Keichi ran out of hp himself. lol |
More topics from this board
Poll: » Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Gou Episode 23 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Danpmss - Mar 11, 2021 |
315 |
by Tennouji
»»
Oct 11, 5:43 AM |
|
Poll: » Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Gou Episode 20 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Syureria - Feb 18, 2021 |
337 |
by Tennouji
»»
Oct 11, 4:34 AM |
|
Poll: » Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Gou Episode 19 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Feb 11, 2021 |
310 |
by Tennouji
»»
Oct 11, 4:04 AM |
|
Poll: » Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Gou Episode 17 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Jan 28, 2021 |
326 |
by Tennouji
»»
Oct 11, 3:17 AM |
|
Poll: » Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Gou Episode 16 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )KANLen09 - Jan 21, 2021 |
462 |
by Tennouji
»»
Oct 11, 2:47 AM |