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Sep 12, 2020 5:29 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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These kids just can't a break! Out of nowhere, a Mammothmon appears.

Very glad to see Joe and his partner Digimon get his spotlight. And he shows bravery in the face of danger too. My favorite moment from the episode is Zudoman making his appearance. So much nostalgia...
Sep 12, 2020 9:04 PM
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Amazing episode, as already expected from Joe. He always think everyone ignore him when in fact everyone is secretly admire him, except Gomamon, which is openly admire him.

Also, I don't remember Zudomon being this hot, not sure if it's just me being more into furry than I was from two decade ago...
Sep 12, 2020 9:30 PM
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Gomamon and Joe’s relationship is so good. I love how every episode we see the kids’ partners forcing them to develop and grow. Really good episode, but that cliffhanger is something else. So we’re back in the real world? Something’s up.
Sep 12, 2020 10:12 PM
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When Zudomon's shell formed we could see another thing turning into it, like the Mugendramon on MetalGreymon's evolution.
Sep 12, 2020 10:36 PM
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Oh look, Jyou has the best episode out of Yamato-tachi. Who would have guessed.

For real, Zudomon has some top tier evolution, the best by far out of the four, near on the level of Taichi and Yamato, just without the fancy stuff. I suppose that means the evolutions are intended to be HQ but weren't/aren't able to be.

The fight, though, was crap. Too many still shots and weak impacts. That's thanks to there being too many scenes with Taichi-tachi;o they had 3 compared to the normal 1. Hey, Toei, maybe instead of wasting time with the encyclopedia or/and recap, maybe devote those minutes to the original stuff? Just a suggestion.

I do like how they gave a snowy ep, even though in direct reference, but to Yamato-tachi. He doesn't get to roll in the snow with Taichi but hey, close enough!

And I still can't tell if the Super Evos are supposed to be Crest related or not. Yamato, Koushiro and Mimi's seem to say yes. Taichi, Sora and Jyou's seem to say "eh, not really, as long as they're in sync it's good enough!" Even though we see Jyou's Crest in Ikkaku/Zudomon's eyes, I don't see how the activation relates to it since he's never quite shown to want to fight nor protect. It's obvious it's supposed to be a thing, but it comes out of nowhere. Or maybe him realizing he wants to protect, not just run away and whine, is good enough for the Crest activation?

Still nice to see Jyou all serious. (Lol @ Yamato not caring about Jyou's chatter, I hope it continues to be a running gag.)

Also, the first 12 eps are coming out on DVD/BR. Will they fix anything? will soon be answered and show if this is a cheap cashgrab.
Sep 12, 2020 11:37 PM
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Zudomon is cool but damn the animation is so bad its just still frames

next episode they are back in Tokyo eh
Sep 13, 2020 1:42 AM
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Oh, what an ending, they got back to Tokyo.
Sep 13, 2020 4:32 AM
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oh wow, I did not expect Joe to get the coolest evolution sequence, behind Taichi and Yamato of course. I was expecting Zudomon to be covered in colors and data or something. I enjoy seeing Jyou in action. I hope he would get feature in more stuff and not this one. The fight was pretty bad, but I'll let that slide bc the evolution sequence.

Until this point, I still don't know what the reboot plans to do with the Crests. Sure we older fans know their hidden meaning, but what about new viewers? I try to enjoy the series like a person who has no knowledge of Digimon and find it very confusing. Even as an old fan, I still feel very confusing :/. Are they just gonna throw the "mysterious symbols" to us and never explain their meaning? :/

After 15 episode, is the plot finally kicking in? It feels weird saying that because I haven't got used to the fact that episode involved new evolution felt like a filler :/ The Digimon in the preview, is that Shademon? So is it possible that in this reboot, the main villain is not Devimon but Shademon or another mysterious Digimon? :/

In the beginning of the episode, we see snapshot of Garurumon, I was expecting the next episode will be about Yamato evolves Gabumon to MetalGarurumon or Takeru's debut, maybe not
Sep 13, 2020 8:13 AM
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I was expecting a huge impact when Zudomon hammered Mammothmon's head, but felt like a *bonk*.

Next episode: Taichi's team versus Selim Bradley (Pride).
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Sep 13, 2020 9:28 AM

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More interested in the cliffhanger rather than Joe's spotlight tbh, cuz Ultimate gaining is as underwhelming as always, following the usual pattern and all.

The cliffhanger reminds me of Taichi suddenly going back to Tokyo alone after MetalGreymon's debut in the original. I read episode summaries up to episode 18 on Reddit and looks like they'll fight against new Digimon namely Eyesmon, Orochimon, and Nidhoggmon. I don't know a single one of them but I could find Orochimon on wiki. It seems strong af so I guess we'll see Mega debut, or maybe even Omegamon... *sigh* I seriously hope I'm wrong and it'll just be angels or Takeru introduction.

MastxadowX said:
When Zudomon's shell formed we could see another thing turning into it, like the Mugendramon on MetalGreymon's evolution.
That's Archelomon, who has a shell very similar to Zudomon's. Now I don't think these other Digimon parts in evolution sequences are anything special and just a nod to the lore between their similarities. (Cuz afaik, Mugendramon is the 'Machine Emperor' over all cyborg Digimon, including MetalGreymon, in the lore.)
RenkiniSep 13, 2020 9:31 AM

Sep 13, 2020 11:08 AM

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Zudomon definitely had the best evolution out of the less favored Digimon, even though the fight afterwards was really lacking.
I liked the episode, but I don't know why they had to cut to the other group that much. The Kiwimon chasing scene could've just been left out tbh - it's not like it's totally unreasonable to just come across that cave while walking somewhere.

I'm glad that we got an actual reason for the other Digimon not going to their perfect level to fight the enemy this time. Sora was injured & Matt had to take her away, so they weren't involved at all. Mimi & Tai didn't really have a reason to not bring out Lilimon & Metalgreymon (sooner) last episode.
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Sep 13, 2020 11:12 AM

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That end scene XD, they ended up in the real world after all. Now this is classic digimon and I love it.

Aside that TOEI was seriously slacking off with the animation in this episode and story was quite mediocre too.
Sep 13, 2020 2:44 PM

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Back to Yamato's team, and trouble brews just as quick with Mammon and Yukidarumon. Joe and Gomamon being the decoy, it's hard to see Joe in action because of his cowardness, but because of Sora's inability to fight is the point where Joe takes centerstage with courage.

Honestly, this episode can be summed up to Joe stepping out of his comfort zone and his teamwork with Gomamon, and pushed to the limit with his Super Evolution into Zudomon, one of the less favoured but top transformative Digimon evolutions to date. Their teamwork is impeccable, given the rocky start in the original, and now in this reboot as well.

The cutaway to Taichi's team feels somewhat exhorbitant, but arriving back to the real world this early? What gives?
Sep 13, 2020 3:14 PM

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Joe is one of my favourites and I thought the episode was okay. Zudomon's evolution was hype except for the cursed image in my head of a completely furless Zudomon.

I did really like the cliffhanger ending though. If the summarys that Renkini mentioned are right then my guess is we're not far off from seeing both Angemon and Angewomon. Given that Angemon is OP and always fought on par with everyone else's Ultimate forms, he might not digivolve again til later on. I'd like to see them focus a bit more on plot now that they've gotten all the Ultimates out of the way. Let's put them to use to make them actually feel necessary pls, Toei.

phantomfandom said:

Also, I don't remember Zudomon being this hot, not sure if it's just me being more into furry than I was from two decade ago...

I think it's the latter because Zudomon has always been this hot

AcD4c said:
I was expecting a huge impact when Zudomon hammered Mammothmon's head, but felt like a *bonk*.


Same. There was more lightning when Zudomon called Mjolnir than when he actually attacked.

Renkini said:
MastxadowX said:
When Zudomon's shell formed we could see another thing turning into it, like the Mugendramon on MetalGreymon's evolution.
That's Archelomon, who has a shell very similar to Zudomon's. Now I don't think these other Digimon parts in evolution sequences are anything special and just a nod to the lore between their similarities. (Cuz afaik, Mugendramon is the 'Machine Emperor' over all cyborg Digimon, including MetalGreymon, in the lore.)


I'm not sure about Mugendramon in MetalGreymon's sequence but the Digimon wiki does say that Zudomon's shell is, in fact, Archelomon's shell. I thought that was a cool detail to include in the sequence. It does seem like they're trying to incorporate bits of lore as much as they can in this series.
Sep 13, 2020 6:23 PM

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#TrainTrackChallenge made me laugh more than it should.
Sep 13, 2020 6:37 PM

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On the bright side, looks like next episode is going to be interesting since these shinka filler episodes with exact same story sequence structure since ep4 is finally over. (Yeah I can't believe I have to call the shinka episodes filler at this point, since there's a total of 10 shinkas throughout the spam of mere 11 episodes, each shinka with exactly the same story structure and minimal character dynamic and 0 story progression. Has to be the most boring shinka I've seen since Xros War part 1).
I mean you can probably just watch episode 1~5, and then skip to episode 15 and watch the ending, and you'd miss nothing at all as far as story goes.

Finally something new/ not boring going to happen next episode in the real world.

As a side note, seems like traveling to real world is a little bit too easy this time..
Seems like any Digimon can just walk across this tunnel and invade real world.
In the old Digimon they have to go through some puzzle and ancient ruin to open a portal to real world. Now they just walk across a random tunnel .
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Sep 14, 2020 2:56 AM

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Did anyone recognize this digimon from the next episode's preview?


Or is it an original digimon?
Sep 14, 2020 9:06 AM

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Metallica_Nero said:
Did anyone recognize this digimon from the next episode's preview?


Or is it an original digimon?
Probably either Eyesmon, Orochimon or Nidhoggmon I mentioned in my post above.

Sep 14, 2020 12:40 PM
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So this time Zudomon is the one that saves the day fighting against Mammon and Yukidarumon(Sub Zero Ice Punch). We also got a some character development from Joe once he realized that he's the most important member of the team as Good Old Reliable Joe. Next week Tachi's team find themselves in a trap set by the dark digimon by creating a fake version of Tokyo.

AcD4c said:
I was expecting a huge impact when Zudomon hammered Mammothmon's head, but felt like a *bonk*.


Lol. Wow. Toei dropped the ball on that one because Zudomon's hammer should of had a lot more impact.
Sep 14, 2020 2:26 PM

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AddaeAkono said:
So this time Zudomon is the one that saves the day fighting against Mammon and Yukidarumon(Sub Zero Ice Punch). We also got a some character development from Joe once he realized that he's the most important member of the team as Good Old Reliable Joe. Next week Tachi's team find themselves in a trap set by the dark digimon by creating a fake version of Tokyo.

AcD4c said:
I was expecting a huge impact when Zudomon hammered Mammothmon's head, but felt like a *bonk*.


Lol. Wow. Toei dropped the ball on that one because Zudomon's hammer should of had a lot more impact.


I just said I expected more impact. I said somewhere the episode was bad because of that? Learn how to read please.
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Sep 14, 2020 3:16 PM
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AcD4c said:
AddaeAkono said:
So this time Zudomon is the one that saves the day fighting against Mammon and Yukidarumon(Sub Zero Ice Punch). We also got a some character development from Joe once he realized that he's the most important member of the team as Good Old Reliable Joe. Next week Tachi's team find themselves in a trap set by the dark digimon by creating a fake version of Tokyo.



Lol. Wow. Toei dropped the ball on that one because Zudomon's hammer should of had a lot more impact.


I just said I expected more impact. I said somewhere the episode was bad because of that? Learn how to read please.


I do know how to read and I was simply agreeing with what you were saying about the lack of impact that Zudomon's hammer had in that scene where he struck Mammon because that's what I was looking for. The episode was okay, but it would have been better if Toei put a little more effort in that scene.

By the way. I found your comment very amusing and that why I responded to you the first time.
Sep 15, 2020 2:28 AM

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Metallica_Nero said:
Did anyone recognize this digimon from the next episode's preview?


Or is it an original digimon?


My guess is Shademon. It looks like it :/

Ventus_S said:
On the bright side, looks like next episode is going to be interesting since these shinka filler episodes with exact same story sequence structure since ep4 is finally over. (Yeah I can't believe I have to call the shinka episodes filler at this point, since there's a total of 10 shinkas throughout the spam of mere 11 episodes, each shinka with exactly the same story structure and minimal character dynamic and 0 story progression. Has to be the most boring shinka I've seen since Xros War part 1).
I mean you can probably just watch episode 1~5, and then skip to episode 15 and watch the ending, and you'd miss nothing at all as far as story goes.

Finally something new/ not boring going to happen next episode in the real world.

As a side note, seems like traveling to real world is a little bit too easy this time..
Seems like any Digimon can just walk across this tunnel and invade real world.
In the old Digimon they have to go through some puzzle and ancient ruin to open a portal to real world. Now they just walk across a random tunnel .


Yeah I can't believe there would be a day evolution events are considered filler, in Digimon Adventure of all series no less.

I don't think they are back to their world. It looks more like illusion created by the mysterious digimon to me.

I think Digimon accesses easily to the real world can be seen as allusion for technological advancement. Before, internet access was more restricted. You need to have a modem to connect to the internet, and sometimes it could be quite complicated with connection error (Our War Game flashback haha). So, in a way, the portal connected the Digital World and the Real World was smaller then. Now, there's Wi-fi, easy access to internet, smartphones are everywhere, so in a way the portal will be bigger and easier to go than before.
Sep 20, 2020 11:14 AM

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Now Zudomon is here and....THEY ARE BACK IN TOKYO ALREADY?!
Dec 16, 2020 9:30 AM

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It turned out to be muscles inside Ikkakumon when he took off his fur, and Zudomon was so handsome and strong.

However, the six episodes of super evolutions just feel like breakout games. The process is nothing new. It still feels like the evolution starting when time is up, with little interaction with other Digimons.

It was only when Taichi's group came back to the real world at the end that really struck me.

Jan 18, 2021 3:54 AM

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That ice age reference lol

#TrainTrackChallenge lmao the fact that I can actually see people doing this in real life (ToT) That was a good one. Made me laugh more than it should.

Ikkakumon without the fur is just muscle. That's gonna be stuck in my brain for a while. Evolution scene was cut short like Sora's. Guess Taichi and Yamato's the only ones to get a complete scene but we'll see.

Anyways, looks like the plot is finally gonna move to another direction. Just as I thought, they really were just rushing the evolutions to get them out of the way and if they really are back in Tokyo and it's not just some illusion then I'm guessing Takeru's gonna make his debut soon or maybe Hikari too.
Sep 20, 2021 9:40 AM

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I was expecting Leomon to slide out of that rainbow Zudomon had created at the end of that fight.
Feb 9, 2022 2:07 AM
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Zudomon has been always so cool.
Aug 31, 2023 11:30 AM

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yes Zudomon was hype, he looked so good, over too soon tho. Hopefully we see more of him!
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Now that all of currently known chosen children have ultimates, I wonder how the next episodes will unfold.

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