| People are mad that Donald Trump called it a "Chinese Virus" https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/17/trump-calls-covid-19-the-chinese-virus-as-rift-with-coronavirus-beijing-escalates https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1239685852093169664 https://twitter.com/w_terrence/status/1239768081838116864  Trump explains why he calls Coronavirus the “Chinese Virus” https://mobile.twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1240317292946350081 Another tweet by Trump referring to Coronavirus as “Chinese Virus” https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1240391871026864130 |
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| Frankly it would be easier to report on things Trump says that people don't get mad about. |
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| lol a world leader being racist in this day of age |
Scud said: Frankly it would be easier to report on things Trump says that isn't fucking idiotic. fixed that for you. |
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| "Chinese virus" actually can also mean "the Chinese are a virus". It can be easily interpreted as a Freudian slip especially if you compare it to things he's said about China before. Aside from that it can also be a political tool that can be used to further attempt at making China an enemy as well as pass blame for his own administration's subpar handling of the pandemic in the US. |
traed said: You do realize the CCP are a virus correct? They're economically invading other nations left and right, causing issues in the South China Sea and also treat their own people as cattle, not to mention they're destroying our planet with pollution. They've spread across the world rooting their influence left and right exactly like a virus."Chinese virus" actually can also mean "the Chinese are a virus". It can be easily interpreted as a Freudian slip especially if you compare it to things he's said about China before. Aside from that it can also be a political tool that can be used to further attempt at making China an enemy as well as pass blame for his own administration's subpar handling of the pandemic in the US. That isn't directed at "Chinese" people though, as a nationality/race, but against "The Chinese" as in the people in power such as the CCP. They are a threat to every nation who's become self-reliant on them and the current situation has show just how fucked nations are when the supply lines are cut off. |
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Cneq said: traed said: You do realize the CCP are a virus correct? They're economically invading other nations left and right, causing issues in the South China Sea and also treat their own people as cattle, not to mention they're destroying our planet with pollution. They've spread across the world rooting their influence left and right exactly like a virus."Chinese virus" actually can also mean "the Chinese are a virus". It can be easily interpreted as a Freudian slip especially if you compare it to things he's said about China before. Aside from that it can also be a political tool that can be used to further attempt at making China an enemy as well as pass blame for his own administration's subpar handling of the pandemic in the US. That isn't directed at "Chinese" people though, as a nationality/race, but against "The Chinese" as in the people in power such as the CCP. They are a threat to every nation who's become self-reliant on them and the current situation has show just how fucked nations are when the supply lines are cut off. When China does it it's a virus and when America does the same it's spreading freedom and prosperity, right? Heh |
traed said: 1. The US doesn't have a monopoly on HUNDREDS of areas of commerce like China does [Medicine, plastics, manufacturing, just about anything you can think of has some part of it made in China and since countries decided for China to be the scapegoat of pollution since they didn't want to make that trash in their own countries they decided to let china do it, not to mention the literal slave labour going on there which in turn = cheaper prices for manufacturing.Cneq said: You do realize the CCP are a virus correct? They're economically invading other nations left and right, causing issues in the South China Sea and also treat their own people as cattle, not to mention they're destroying our planet with pollution. They've spread across the world rooting their influence left and right exactly like a virus. That isn't directed at "Chinese" people though, as a nationality/race, but against "The Chinese" as in the people in power such as the CCP. They are a threat to every nation who's become self-reliant on them and the current situation has show just how fucked nations are when the supply lines are cut off. When China does it it's a virus and when America does the same it's spreading freedom and prosperity, right? Heh 2. The US isn't constantly buying up land in foreign countries and in turn rising the cost of living for the natives. The Chinese own at least 50% of Australia and this has crippled home grown companies and have caused others to completely shut their doors, for example holden cars. 3. The US doesn't treat their people like garbage nor do they run a police state where speaking out against a government official will land you behind bars. You can't even compare China to the US, it's completely fucking impossible. While I do hate China for what they've done it doesn't mean I don't respect the power they control nor the trials they had to go through to get there, even if that form of power is of the oppressive and morally grey variety, power and cunning is still power and cunning. The Chinese were victims of the exact type of self-reliance back with the opium wars and they learned the value of international trade and relations and now it's come right around to bite the west in the ass. |
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traed said: That's an insane amount of reaching. Might as well say it's racist to call pizza Italian food. Also, while handling corona is the #1 priority, China needs to be held fully responsible once this situation is under control. The world is owed 100% transparency so that we can both take proper precautions for the future as well as hold those who were at fault accountable."Chinese virus" actually can also mean "the Chinese are a virus". It can be easily interpreted as a Freudian slip especially if you compare it to things he's said about China before. Aside from that it can also be a political tool that can be used to further attempt at making China an enemy as well as pass blame for his own administration's subpar handling of the pandemic in the US. |
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| I mean, technically speaking he's not wrong. |
| People are dying but there it's still time to get offended by something that shouldn't offend people, classic. Scud said: Frankly it would be easier to report on things Trump says that people don't get mad about. True, the guy breathing seems enough to get people pissed. |
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Daisetsu1 said: deg said: lol a world leader being racist in this day of age Okay, I'll bite. What did Trump say that was racist? you are thinking too literally just think of the consequences since there is a reason the World Health Organization did not name it Wuhan Virus like the Spanish Flu was because the Chinese can be seen as low life eating wild life like bats that can be considered disgusting to people outside of China EDIT: As weeks went by, people began calling it "Wuhan virus." But that's a problematic label. World Health Organization guidelines for naming infectious diseases, issued in 2015, discourage names that refer to specific places, people and professions, aiming to avoid negative repercussions from stigmatizing a geographic area or a population group. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/11/802352351/new-coronavirus-gets-an-official-name-from-the-world-health-organization |
| Did he not understand why it was called Covid 19 and not the Wuhan Virus? It was because of this reason. |
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| I'm triggered by this. I'm literally shaking. Send help, please. |
Monochrosanity said: Did he not understand why it was called Covid 19 and not the Wuhan Virus? It was because of this reason. To not offend cry babies? |
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| Trump is always pissing people off, it isn't new. I say co 19 for short regardless. |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: Monochrosanity said: Did he not understand why it was called Covid 19 and not the Wuhan Virus? It was because of this reason. To not offend cry babies? If you name it something like Wuhan virus no one will go to Wuhan in the next 50 years. It’s not about offending people, it’s about making sure you don’t ruin a cities tourism industry. It’s fairly obvious that people living in Wuhan won’t be too appreciative of the name “Wuhan Virus.” |
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Monochrosanity said: If you name it something like Wuhan virus no one will go to Wuhan in the next 50 years. It’s not about offending people, it’s about making sure you don’t ruin a cities tourism industry. Who is going to do that? They'll avoid it until the pandemic is over in a year or 2. When everyone gets vaccines. |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: Monochrosanity said: If you name it something like Wuhan virus no one will go to Wuhan in the next 50 years. It’s not about offending people, it’s about making sure you don’t ruin a cities tourism industry. Who is going to do that? They'll avoid it until the pandemic is over in a year or 2. When everyone gets vaccines. A lot of people will avoid going to a place that a pandemic is named after. People do crazy things for crazy reasons. Plus China aren’t very happy with the name “China virus” or “Wuhan virus”, see here. Either way naming it something more basic such as Covid 19 makes everyone happy and doesn’t have a chance to hinder a cities tourism industry. |
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| Wow, how that can be interpreted from multiple-ways is actually impressive. Not that the one saying it is, just how any posts in this thread, or all, could be correct. |
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Bayek said: traed said: That's an insane amount of reaching. Might as well say it's racist to call pizza Italian food. Also, while handling corona is the #1 priority, China needs to be held fully responsible once this situation is under control. The world is owed 100% transparency so that we can both take proper precautions for the future as well as hold those who were at fault accountable."Chinese virus" actually can also mean "the Chinese are a virus". It can be easily interpreted as a Freudian slip especially if you compare it to things he's said about China before. Aside from that it can also be a political tool that can be used to further attempt at making China an enemy as well as pass blame for his own administration's subpar handling of the pandemic in the US. Pretty sure no one has ever compaired someone to something life sustaining in a negative way. It's always viruses, infections, cancer, parasites, pests and what is perceived as dangerous dumb dirty animals. I never said that is what he intentionally meant. Do you even know why so many viruses appear in China? Aside from population size and density and animal proximity among other things it's possibly because their soil is deficient in selenium. Many Chinese are selenium defient so they are more vulnerable to certain viruses. |
| there's no need to make a large deal out of it, but it was a stupid thing to do as a prominent political leader. then again, he's already demonstrated quite a few times that he's not good at thinking ahead... |
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| Well... he's right you know, in a way. I mean. Also is this really the time to get triggered over what we call the virus? to a degree the Chinese govt. is kinda responsible for this blowing out of proportion for hiding needed information about the virus. |
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| Trump said something that can be taken the wrong way. More news at 11. Seriously, when will people get tired with obsessing over his tweets? It just pulls media scrutiny from things that actually matter. |
| I've given up trying to convince racist people they're racist. They'll always be woe is me while stepping on everyone else, like anti-vaxxers. I mean like just call me a chink so we both know who we are. In a sense, being anti-progress is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Why help others when everyone around you is as nasty as you are? It makes sense, right? The only thing is that this isn't really conservatism either, so as long as don't call it what it's not, I'm fine with it. |
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| Are you telling me Corona-chan isn't Chinese?? That means we have a serious case of cultural appropriation on our hands everyone. |
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| I don't mind Trump about this and have become his fan again. Sue me liberals. |
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| Liberal dems caring about shit that doesn't matter instead of anything of value because they have no actual platform has been overdone for years now. |
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| I'm Chinese and I know I should be offended but whatever. A lot of stuff doesn't offend me and this is one of the times I do not care. If he calls it the "Chinese Virus", then he calls it that. Like many people call him the worst president, he don't care. But I can see why people are mad, he made a racist comment but I doubt he's gonna apologize. |
Maenads said: People are mad about...oh wait it is the guardian, and twitter. That is where all the whiny fucks go to complain about everything. The virus literally came from China. It is not a French virus. It is not a Turkish virus. FRENCH VIRUS LMAO. But yea he's calling it Chinese Virus cause it came from China |
| I think he used the words "chinese virus" instead of covid-19/coronavirus because these words were so repetitive to the point that it doesn't sound like a word anymore, so he decided to change it up a little and this is the result. Imagine being a country leader right now in amidst of this pandemic, you'd probably be tired of hearing the same word(s) as well. Many in China call it wuhan virus on their social media, and many countries neighbouring china (ie. India) have used "Chinese Virus" as well, and not with any (presumably) bad intent against the populace.I guess I just got used to seeing these words, so it doesn't bother me tbh. (Though admittedly, COVID-19 does seem to be the most popular choice of words to describe this virus even in those regions). |
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guych said: Maenads said: People are mad about...oh wait it is the guardian, and twitter. That is where all the whiny fucks go to complain about everything. The virus literally came from China. It is not a French virus. It is not a Turkish virus. FRENCH VIRUS LMAO. But yea he's calling it Chinese Virus cause it came from China Yeah and in his speech which I watched, he does call it the corona virus. So it was probably just that one tweet. |
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Maneki-Mew said: I bet he forgot the name and called it the chinese virus then. He is not exceptionally smart and things he says are not to be taken serious anyway. He probably did it intentionally to be honest, not very surprising since Beijing is blaming the US so it might have been some sort of retaliation. Speaking of which nobody even mentions that... I guess Trump calling the Wuhan corona virus a "Chinese virus" in some tweet is more outrageous and inaccurate than Beijing calling it a US bioweapon. Another day in the Clown world I guess. |
zrdb said: If anybody deserves to catch covid 19 and die from it it's gotta be trump. I was kinda hoping for Justin Bieber but whatever floats your boat |
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| obviously not a trump supporter by any means, but this is something that he is dead on right about. If the Chinese weren't messing around with bats and shit, most of us would be in our daily routines. we all know Chinese propaganda manufactures lies about the USA. |
Cneq said: traed said: 1. The US doesn't have a monopoly on HUNDREDS of areas of commerce like China does [Medicine, plastics, manufacturing, just about anything you can think of has some part of it made in China and since countries decided for China to be the scapegoat of pollution since they didn't want to make that trash in their own countries they decided to let china do it, not to mention the literal slave labour going on there which in turn = cheaper prices for manufacturing.When China does it it's a virus and when America does the same it's spreading freedom and prosperity, right? Heh 2. The US isn't constantly buying up land in foreign countries and in turn rising the cost of living for the natives. The Chinese own at least 50% of Australia and this has crippled home grown companies and have caused others to completely shut their doors, for example holden cars. 3. The US doesn't treat their people like garbage nor do they run a police state where speaking out against a government official will land you behind bars. You can't even compare China to the US, it's completely fucking impossible. While I do hate China for what they've done it doesn't mean I don't respect the power they control nor the trials they had to go through to get there, even if that form of power is of the oppressive and morally grey variety, power and cunning is still power and cunning. The Chinese were victims of the exact type of self-reliance back with the opium wars and they learned the value of international trade and relations and now it's come right around to bite the west in the ass. Wow, China is spreading out in SE Asia. If that's bad, what is the US? Remember, these aren't the bases, just the countries that have them, they couldn't fit all the bases on the pic.  |
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QPR said: Why would you post military statistics when I'm talking about an economical invasion? A country could have barely any military presence and still be able to "attack" nations through commerce and mass investment. That is precisely why it's called an economical invasion and it is the exact thing China has been doing for decades. Cneq said: 1. The US doesn't have a monopoly on HUNDREDS of areas of commerce like China does [Medicine, plastics, manufacturing, just about anything you can think of has some part of it made in China and since countries decided for China to be the scapegoat of pollution since they didn't want to make that trash in their own countries they decided to let china do it, not to mention the literal slave labour going on there which in turn = cheaper prices for manufacturing. 2. The US isn't constantly buying up land in foreign countries and in turn rising the cost of living for the natives. The Chinese own at least 50% of Australia and this has crippled home grown companies and have caused others to completely shut their doors, for example holden cars. 3. The US doesn't treat their people like garbage nor do they run a police state where speaking out against a government official will land you behind bars. You can't even compare China to the US, it's completely fucking impossible. While I do hate China for what they've done it doesn't mean I don't respect the power they control nor the trials they had to go through to get there, even if that form of power is of the oppressive and morally grey variety, power and cunning is still power and cunning. The Chinese were victims of the exact type of self-reliance back with the opium wars and they learned the value of international trade and relations and now it's come right around to bite the west in the ass. Wow, China is spreading out in SE Asia. If you want to make an argument that the US is doing something similar to that then give examples of countries where the US is constantly buying up land, taking control of homegrown business and making the cost of living skyrocket. You posting United States statistics has no relation to this argument and you're kind of wasting my time. |
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Cneq said: Why would you post military statistics when I'm talking about an economical invasion? A country could have barely any military presence and still be able to "attack" nations through commerce and mass investment. That is precisely why it's called an economical invasion and it is the exact thing China has been doing for decades. If you want to make an argument that the US is doing something similar to that then give examples of countries where the US is constantly buying up land, taking control of homegrown business and making the cost of living skyrocket. You posting United States statistics has no relation to this argument and you're kind of wasting my time. They don't buy up land, the kill people and steal it which is far worse than the Chinese do. I know you are American because the point went right over your head. |
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