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Feb 23, 2019 2:47 AM
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Tonyic said:
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again and again, JC Staff didn't made the animation of this episode. Just take a looks at the credit in the ending, it's ENGI and J-Cube Animation...


All I see is that they collaborated on this weeks episode, that could mean a lot of things such as painting, key details, finishing it, etc. As far as I know, JC staff is still head studio doing base artwork and animation.


No. When an episode is outsourced, this means it's the animation which is. In every episode, finish and In-betweens are outsourced. But yes, JC is the one who do the compositing, background and some other stuff.
Feb 23, 2019 4:20 AM

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Glad to see my waifu back! ^_^

But jeez... the running animation was crap.
At least it was better when they close up her beautiful face. <3



Always good to hear her sexy background music.

Is it just me or her voice seems to be a bit different. Kinda sharp if I say so myself.
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t last i saw kurumi and ya the score of this anime is getting lower
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I'm a little confused to be fair. I knew about the whole Origami situation but what confuses me is why Origami uses Hurricane, which is the Yamai twin's soundtrack.

Is this just laziness or was it deliberate?

other than that, I'm just glad the show is close to reaching its climax.
Feb 23, 2019 12:28 PM
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Undyingmammal said:
I'm a little confused to be fair. I knew about the whole Origami situation but what confuses me is why Origami uses Hurricane, which is the Yamai twin's soundtrack.

Is this just laziness or was it deliberate?

other than that, I'm just glad the show is close to reaching its climax.


deliberate, this soudtrack is awesome
PMlus, Origami had her own new soundtrack just before ;)
Feb 23, 2019 4:37 PM

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FINALLY KURUMI RETURNS AFTER YEARS & YEARS! Konbawa my waifu <3
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Feb 23, 2019 5:47 PM
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Thank god the only reason I still watch this show just showed up in the nick of time. Best girl Kurumi IS BACK:D
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Petition to not let JC Staff touch anything ever again?

The animation was just garbage this week. I'd rather have no animation like they did with Shokugeki than bad animation. Makes me wanna puke.


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Undyingmammal said:
I'm a little confused to be fair. I knew about the whole Origami situation but what confuses me is why Origami uses Hurricane, which is the Yamai twin's soundtrack.

Is this just laziness or was it deliberate?

other than that, I'm just glad the show is close to reaching its climax.
Eh... They used it in the film too for Cherubiel. They'll use it wherever they think it fits. Same goes for the bgm for Yuzuru's date.


Sande said:
Tohka randomly gets her powers back just as she's about to die and out of nowhere Origami becomes a spirit?! I have no idea what's happening anymore. Kurumi better save this season.
They're capable of drawing their power back when they get distressed / when they need it / when the plot requires it. Natsumi has an interesting definition of distress. O.o
It's that button on Fraxinus that Kotori pushed to get some of her power back that doesn't make a ton of sense to me.


Atavistic said:
Also, as a minor thing, why was Shido so sheepish about kissing Tohka to reseal her before the credits? I thought it might have been because the other girls were there, but that didn't stop him with Natsumi at the end of her arc so it can't be that.
It was Natsumi who went for the kiss in front of all the other girls, not Shido. Looks like Shido is too shy to kiss Tohka with all the others watching, or he thinks Tohka wouldn't want all of them watching.
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Spirit Origami is so beautiful animated (I didn't realize her dress was that revealing at the bust, her tits are being covered by frills alone) and the big funnels are quite cool to see in action.
Not anywhere near as revealing as Tohka's inverted form dress, or Origami's DEM CR unit. Even Tohka's original astral dress, as drawn by AIC Plus+. The closer you look at them, the more lewd features you might notice, like transparencies, or more exposed skin than initially apparent.

AIC capitalized on any opportunity for fanservice that they got, something that I noticed while rewatching Season 1.

Mattinator95 said:
How do stuidos get animes Agian are they just shoved onto a stuido or do the stuido need to agree . Because it's the company that owns the rights to the series that decide if a anime gets another season right ???

I'm curious about that too, is it like a bid where whoever offers the most money gets rights to an anime or does it have something to do with the producers??

It wasn't really apparent until this episode, but the animation really did take a hit...and yeah like @JonasDown said I'm really watching this for the story, this happens to be one of my favorite arcs~
Feb 24, 2019 3:51 AM

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yeeeeeeeeeeee Kurumi's back
Feb 24, 2019 4:23 AM

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HeroVladimir93 said:
Misuzu Togashi once again delivers an amazing performance
This. Even with the lack of animation, her performance as Origami made the battle felt intense. We could really feel Origami's anger, hatred, and strong determination.

Plot wise, so far I'm liking s3 more than s2.
Feb 24, 2019 9:16 AM

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I really like Origami spirit form. Looks powerrfull.

Best news - KURUMI IS BACK BITCHES.
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Feb 24, 2019 11:47 AM
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Awesome episode!

The fight between Tohka and Origami was cool!

So Origami with her pursuit for avenge her parents, and became a spirit as well, i got to say that Origami spirit for is beautifull, she looks even more cute than before!

Seems next episode we will have Kurumi!
Feb 24, 2019 12:27 PM
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Sande said:
Tohka randomly gets her powers back just as she's about to die and out of nowhere Origami becomes a spirit?! I have no idea what's happening anymore. Kurumi better save this season.


Just like usual, Kurumi fanboys will never pay attention to anything other than Kurumi and then when important things like this happen, they think it's bullshit. Did you forget about Kotori or Miku being humans and then turning into spirits for some reason? Did you forget that Kotori did the same in season 1 when she took back her powers to save everyone from Kurumi?
You clearly don't know anything about this series becuase all you can see is Kurumi, you haven't even bothered paying attention to everything else.
Feb 24, 2019 1:44 PM
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Petition to not let JC Staff touch anything ever again?

The animation was just garbage this week. I'd rather have no animation like they did with Shokugeki than bad animation. Makes me wanna puke.


Dude ! It wasn't even JC Staff who was in charge of the animation !
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Origami can die for all I care. Tohka should've actually killed her. I don't buy her sudden switch to wanting to kill everyone again. I just don't. I don't care if she got any extra information on her parents, she should've been developed enough to at least care about the fact that the Spirits are in fact Shido's friends/lovers (almost?) and thus by killing them, she would make him miserable. Luckily for her, Shido's an actual idiot with no real sense of right and wrong of his own that would still happily accept her as if nothing happened like he did before with her first betrayal (which was stupid enough as it was. There wasn't even a hint of conflict between them after that. It just went back to normal) and will again when this arc is over. I really hope I'm wrong, but I'm probably not.
Her turning into a Spirit and being fine with it is also nice hypocrisy on her part (I know she said she'd kill herself after she killed the rest but still, she wreaked havoc to the surrounding area)
Animation was awful again.
This episode was also utterly tonedeaf with the tone being all over the place. Very bad comedic timing at the worst places and whatnot. Especially that Natsumi moment when she was transformed as Origami. It made no sense to have Natsumi react like that as if him being tied up was a mere funny inconvenience. It might've worked if the series portrayed it that way the previous episode, but they didn't.
Shido somehow still caring about Origami after she betrayed him for the second time.
It's sad, because I really liked the first two seasons. Though Origami was always the worst part for me. Such an annoying character.
At least Kurumi ( ie best girl) is back I guess. Hopefully they don't mess her up.
Eh... I'm watching this mostly for Origami, and even I don't think much of it so far. >.< The sudden turn against Tohka, and the other spirits, doesn't make much sense. Given the conversation in the toilet with Shido in season 2, and a bunch of other events, you'd think she'd made peace with the sealed spirits.

I thought she'd have something of a breakdown when she realized she'd become a spirit, but no, she just intends to use her power to kill other spirits as per her previous mission. Sure, one of Origami's strengths in battle is that she's pragmatic, but this seems more hypocritical than pragmatic. If she isn't inherently evil or destructive in spirit form, then what about the other girls?

To be fair to Natsumi, she doesn't seem to know why Origami has tied Shido up, or what she plans to do. I don't think much of Miku trying to steal a kiss from Tohka while Origami has crashed not too far away.

Origami has proven many times to be a skilled, tactical fighter you'd want on your side. Rushing into the wrecked Raizen high school to get between Shido and Tohka, stealing White Licorice for the battle over Tenguu square, wounding Ellen with the blade in her boot, quickly stabbing Natsumi's photos with the knife... all moves you'd want from an ally. With her sudden change of heart, fighting Tohka, Miku, Yuzuru and Kaguya, not really anymore. >.>


I pretty much agree with you. Origami is way to whimsical to trust (as has been shown 2 times now).
However, the Natsumi laughing at Shido while tied up I don't quite agree with. Sure, she doesn't know why Origami did that, but come on. Shido was clearly distressed, was cuffed, in a ruined building (or at least a part of). Unless they're 'evil', no one would laugh that hard at it. Even disregarding that, the entire tone they were going for there was suddenly dropped entirely, making the entire situation kinda hard to take serious, even though that's clearly what they were going for outside of the over the top, illogical 'humoristic' response. Even Kurumi wouldn't react by bursting out laughing (in the way Natsumi did it).
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Anyone here notice Natsumi making a reference to Ikkyu-san?
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Overall, I have hated the animation and character model inconsistencies this season. Its such a let down. Especially what they are doing with Tohkas model. Sometimes she is flat, sometimes she isnt. They have been pretty sloppy this season. And to the guy who keeps saying "But JC Staff didnt do this episode", well they out sourced it to terrible companies. So yea it is kind of their fault for choosing them. I wish JC Staff didnt touch this anime.
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Overall, I have hated the animation and character model inconsistencies this season. Its such a let down. Especially what they are doing with Tohkas model. Sometimes she is flat, sometimes she isnt. They have been pretty sloppy this season. And to the guy who keeps saying "But JC Staff didnt do this episode", well they out sourced it to terrible companies. So yea it is kind of their fault for choosing them. I wish JC Staff didnt touch this anime.


Someone called me ?
As I explained on my twitter and in the DAL discord, this ep was outsourced to 2 studios (ENGI which did a great job on DAL S3 and J Cube Animation) But it seems that ENGI is focused on the next ep that's why there are 2 studios and this can explained why in this ep, sometime it's good, sometime it's ugly

Save my words, next ep will be very good
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MrBefruit said:
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Overall, I have hated the animation and character model inconsistencies this season. Its such a let down. Especially what they are doing with Tohkas model. Sometimes she is flat, sometimes she isnt. They have been pretty sloppy this season. And to the guy who keeps saying "But JC Staff didnt do this episode", well they out sourced it to terrible companies. So yea it is kind of their fault for choosing them. I wish JC Staff didnt touch this anime.


Someone called me ?
As I explained on my twitter and in the DAL discord, this ep was outsourced to 2 studios (ENGI which did a great job on DAL S3 and J Cube Animation) But it seems that ENGI is focused on the next ep that's why there are 2 studios and this can explained why in this ep, sometime it's good, sometime it's ugly

Save my words, next ep will be very good


We'll see. Its a shame ppl have waited so long for another season for the first half of it to be a mess. They should have waited until they could focus a bit more on it to be of better quality. They need to expand or relax on taking too many projects at once it seems.
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Tohka vs Origami xD, Kurumi has come.
Feb 25, 2019 12:32 PM
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So this was supposed to be one of the best scenes/fights of this series and JC Staff proves once again why I have to be mad at them. Literally any other goddamn animation studio could have done a better job. I'm not even mad at this point. This fight is the only one that mattered and this is how it'll go down in history.

Just don't watch this anime for the animation anymore, do it for the story, at least this episode shows to you there's actually a story in this series.


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ThatGuy345 said:
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Someone called me ?
As I explained on my twitter and in the DAL discord, this ep was outsourced to 2 studios (ENGI which did a great job on DAL S3 and J Cube Animation) But it seems that ENGI is focused on the next ep that's why there are 2 studios and this can explained why in this ep, sometime it's good, sometime it's ugly

Save my words, next ep will be very good


We'll see. Its a shame ppl have waited so long for another season for the first half of it to be a mess. They should have waited until they could focus a bit more on it to be of better quality. They need to expand or relax on taking too many projects at once it seems.


Sorry for the late reply.
Well, even if committee production give enouth time to JC Staff, they will manage to waste this precious time.
JC have too many project: first they are a big compagny, they have the workforce for this (yet, it remains too much project to them) and secondly they have to accept thse many projects which producers or whatever who give it to them. It's not like they can politly decline.
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MrBefruit said:
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We'll see. Its a shame ppl have waited so long for another season for the first half of it to be a mess. They should have waited until they could focus a bit more on it to be of better quality. They need to expand or relax on taking too many projects at once it seems.


Sorry for the late reply.
Well, even if committee production give enouth time to JC Staff, they will manage to waste this precious time.
JC have too many project: first they are a big compagny, they have the workforce for this (yet, it remains too much project to them) and secondly they have to accept thse many projects which producers or whatever who give it to them. It's not like they can politly decline.



They literally can't? "Hello, not enough time/workforce for this one, send to Bones, DEEN, TOEI, Madhouse, or even Pierrot".
Well, they should, clearly they are biting so much more pieces of cake than they can chew, not enough money to keep the track of all those things, be Index III or DaL III. Prepare for a boycot if OPM II is even half this bad.

Can't they outsource to more competent studios, anway? They don't need Ufotable/Kyoani level of goodness, I just want some consistency...Neptunia creator artstyle deserves more than that; AIC+ in S1 did justice to it, even the other studio was fine (even rushing in the last 2 episodes).






Kudos to Origami seiyuu, she cleary likes her job. You can feel the fury right there.
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Atrocious animation, such a big fight scene that was supposedly one of the best ones. But well, Kurumi's appearance in the end might actually save this for me.
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So this was supposed to be one of the best scenes/fights of this series and JC Staff proves once again why I have to be mad at them. Literally any other goddamn animation studio could have done a better job. I'm not even mad at this point. This fight is the only one that mattered and this is how it'll go down in history.

Just don't watch this anime for the animation anymore, do it for the story, at least this episode shows to you there's actually a story in this series.


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Wow, everyone is giving shit to the animation here but have you seen the abomination that was Tokyo Ghoul:Re by Pierrot?....

This is at least can be called presentable to some extent lol. (and the story/voice acting more than makes up for it imo)
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Kurumi in the limelight, bless bless.



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Kurumi always the most fun to watch... crazy yandere, but most interesting.

BTW, was Origami dragging a Kurumi clone that apparently had a sad face?...

Doesn't this mean Origami already half defeated Kurumi?
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I am tired of you people !

AGAIN AND AGAIN, IT WASN'T JC STAFF WHO WORKED ON THIS EPISODE (AND SOME BEFORE) THIS TIME IT WAS OUTSOURCED TO ENGI AND J-CUBE ANIMATION

ENGI IS PUTTING ALL IT RESSOURCES TO THE NEXT ONE WHICH WILL BE A BIG EPISODE

THAT'S WHY IT'S OUTSOURCED TO TWO STUDIOS

AND AGAIN, JC STAFF HAS NOTHING TO DO HERE !


Interesting info, that no one else here currently has means to figure out, expect you.
Also even IF it is not JC Staff doing this, they are still responsible in the end, they are the ones in charge of adapting, they were the ones that make the decisions of who to outsource this to or not.

They are the main entity to hold responsability for the outcome of the adaptation here, maybe outsourcing should have been avoided, and then could have delayed DAL III to spring!
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I am tired of you people !

AGAIN AND AGAIN, IT WASN'T JC STAFF WHO WORKED ON THIS EPISODE (AND SOME BEFORE) THIS TIME IT WAS OUTSOURCED TO ENGI AND J-CUBE ANIMATION

ENGI IS PUTTING ALL IT RESSOURCES TO THE NEXT ONE WHICH WILL BE A BIG EPISODE

THAT'S WHY IT'S OUTSOURCED TO TWO STUDIOS

AND AGAIN, JC STAFF HAS NOTHING TO DO HERE !


Interesting info, that no one else here currently has means to figure out, expect you.
Also even IF it is not JC Staff doing this, they are still responsible in the end, they are the ones in charge of adapting, they were the ones that make the decisions of who to outsource this to or not.

They are the main entity to hold responsability for the outcome of the adaptation here, maybe outsourcing should have been avoided, and then could have delayed DAL III to spring!


I don't think they are the one who made the decision, it's morel ikely the high up who decide.
JC Staff have a strange power to manage to waste the time that the committee production gave to them. But well, they finally succeed in producing a decent episode (EP 8).

I said that ENGI will make a very decent episode after the faillure of EP 7, seems to not be EP 8 since it was JC, but I'm still confident that the next ep produced by ENGI will be good.

I don't think that it's a good idea to have delayed it to the spring since the Light Novel is near its end, so they had to air it in winter.
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I was great to finally see Metatron animated!
Was expecting Nightmare figure to appear when tempting Origami to get a Spirit Crystal, but she didnt, or rather, she was hidden inside that white light.
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Lot of Origami's hating... understandable, but this is exactly why this arc exists, to finally explain, develop and given her character a resolution that we have had not seen thus far.
Cant wait for next episode.

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That was with vol20, no new info suggests the LN may still go for awhile longer, since 21 will be a new arc supposedly, and may not be the last.
Which makes even more sense S3 to help boost the LN once again.
Mar 3, 2019 11:16 AM

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Already calling it, the spirit who gave Origami her powers is probably the same one who killed her parents. If this turns out to be true then the irony is strong in this one lol.




On another note, the animation is getting worse every episode. It's really a shame that one of the best arcs is getting such a shitty treatment.


I held out opening your sploiler since it's already revealed now. Yeah, the irony is still there lol.
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Playcool said:
MrBefruit said:
I am tired of you people !

AGAIN AND AGAIN, IT WASN'T JC STAFF WHO WORKED ON THIS EPISODE (AND SOME BEFORE) THIS TIME IT WAS OUTSOURCED TO ENGI AND J-CUBE ANIMATION

ENGI IS PUTTING ALL IT RESSOURCES TO THE NEXT ONE WHICH WILL BE A BIG EPISODE

THAT'S WHY IT'S OUTSOURCED TO TWO STUDIOS

AND AGAIN, JC STAFF HAS NOTHING TO DO HERE !


Interesting info, that no one else here currently has means to figure out, expect you.
Also even IF it is not JC Staff doing this, they are still responsible in the end, they are the ones in charge of adapting, they were the ones that make the decisions of who to outsource this to or not.

They are the main entity to hold responsability for the outcome of the adaptation here, maybe outsourcing should have been avoided, and then could have delayed DAL III to spring!



Kodakowa are the ones that got Engi invloved as Engi is owned partly by them
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Can orgami be called a hypocrite for using sprit power to fight spirits when's it's probably the only way to actually Kill them .

I see what people mean now it goes from all light and Bright to low standard
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Kurumi!!! Finally! I was already considering dropping this series, but here she comes.
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what the fuck is going on? origami's a spirit? fucking hell, i can't be arsed to re-watch the previous seasons

also was the animation always this wack or just this season?
and the best girl just running through the city, hopefully some screen time next episode
Only the animation of this season sucks. The previous seasons' animation was better.
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The animation, it makes me want to stop
Mar 15, 2019 2:28 PM
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Arikawa-chan said:
uninstallthegame said:
what the fuck is going on? origami's a spirit? fucking hell, i can't be arsed to re-watch the previous seasons

also was the animation always this wack or just this season?
and the best girl just running through the city, hopefully some screen time next episode
Only the animation of this season sucks. The previous seasons' animation was better.


It was hardly perfect for last two seasons either
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The animation in this episode was noticeably really bad.

Origami suddenly becoming a spirit was unexpected. Probably because of how random it was.

Kurumi has returned!
Apr 7, 2019 8:48 AM
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Panicked Shido = Higher chance of Shido getting bamboozled, and he did. He was worried so much that he really thought Natsumi was Origami even though she's acting so uncharacteristically.

So even with Origami's upgrade, as long as a spirit of Tohka's calibre have their full power, they could chip down Origami's energy until she has reached her limit.
But all that is useless since Origami is now a fucking spirit! I knew that it was odd for Origami to be holding hands with Shido in near the end of the OP which was first shown in ep 2. And being the last of them just hinted to the fact that Origami will indeed be revealed to be an angel. Can't say I'm surprised though, but damn her spirit powers are awesome!

So Origami is upset because she's now the same as the other spirits, but still has her resolve which is to be a spirits-killing spirit.

KURUMI IS HERE!!!
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Tired of this Origami arc. She's a ugly boring ass character. Oh well at least Kurumi!
Apr 22, 2019 8:34 PM

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Kurumi finally making a showing. Love her sultry music with the saxophone
May 2, 2019 4:08 AM

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Wtf?.. Two Origamis, someone is her, or what?.. I'm confused.. Maybe it's Kurumi?..
Oh, it's Natsumi.. Damn, you laugh like Kurumi..
Just who is this granting power creature, hm..
Origami transformed as well..
Natsumi.. Natsumi.. Poor Natsumi.. If her power works like that.. Poor girl will have to be able to fall in despair more easily, isn't she.. That hurts..
Speak of the devil.. Or Kurumi.. Hm.. And Origami wants to do something with her..
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So, what even the point of sealing them when they can unseal and use their powers pretty much randomly? S1 was at least consistent with that...

Also, Origami just became what she hated the most (in fact, it's obvious she made the pact with the spirit that killed her parents) and she's okay with that? The hell?

And let's not forget to mention that almost kiss that was almost tropetasticly interrupted. What a disappointing episode...

At least Kurumi is finally back to save the day.
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Mich666 said:


Also, Origami just became what she hated the most (in fact, it's obvious she made the pact with the spirit that killed her parents) and she's okay with that? The hell?

At least Kurumi is finally back to save the day.


Next few episodes going to be the most interesting of DAL so far. Origami's arc is my second fav in the Light Novels (first is Kurumi's own arc).
May 26, 2019 2:37 AM

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Brutal battle between Origami and Tohka. Yuzuru and Kaguya are really badly beaten up... ><

Although a bit of comic relief when Miku wants a kiss to wake her up. xD
Mar 16, 2020 3:12 PM

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Ive been waiting for this moment for so long!!! Spirit Origami!! She looks SOO BEAUTIFUL!!!! The white, the dress, the veil. It all looks beautiful as hell!! Best girl Origami just got better.
Yuritopia FTW!!!!!!!!! BANZAI TO YURI !!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 22, 2020 4:21 AM

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Is it just me, or was the animation kinda bad this episode?
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