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Dec 25, 2018 1:48 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Damn, this episode was tough to watch. Not just beacuse Asta is being controlled like a freak but also that Vanessa can't take what she sees anymore.

Got to see Vanessa's past too as a witch. Honestly, I think she was a pretty pure kid back then and seems rather timid compared to her current character. This episode turned out ot be more emotional than I had expected.
Dec 25, 2018 4:07 AM
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Great episode.

We finally got the complete flashback for Vanessa and well, I think it's understandable why she's drinking a lot and always wears revealing clothes xD

Her newly gained ability is pretty op, tho.

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Dec 25, 2018 4:07 AM
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The new spell is unbeatable!
Dec 25, 2018 4:22 AM
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Her power isn’t all that op when you realize all the other op abilities in this series.
Dec 25, 2018 4:28 AM
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Thanks to Magenta Happy for helping Etherious Asta Dragneel
Dec 25, 2018 5:21 AM
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Solid episode, I'm surprised that it follows faithfully to the manga.


Also for manga readers, noticed the cameo? ;) Can't wait for him to appear in the future arc.
Dec 25, 2018 5:56 AM
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Great episode again!

They did it, the absolute madlads!


Vanessa is the best girl confirmed

Petito Clover was gold as always.

Viz said:
Solid episode, I'm surprised that it follows faithfully to the manga.


Also for manga readers, noticed the cameo? ;) Can't wait for him to appear in the future arc.

Yes!
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Dec 25, 2018 7:23 AM
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So she was literally trapped in a cage because she hadn't unlocked her ability yet. Pretty dumb and also psycho. Pretty sure there was something the Queen could have been doing to help her unlock her abilities while also keeping her trapped in idk, the entire castle, rather than a cage. It's funny but also kinda dumb how Yami shows up outta nowhere and bust through the wall as he's living the life of a protagonist to his own shounen anime.

Her power is pretty op anyway.
Dec 25, 2018 7:37 AM
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I'm glad we finally had some Vanessa centered episode this arc, since the previous ones were all about Asta, Mars, Fana and Ladros, which is totally fine, but I finally wanted to see her taking the spotlight. And hell if she did, a red cat able to manipulate fate, holy fuck that's OP (probably the series will find a way to make that more stable later, but so far it seems a pretty hacked ability).

Vanessa's past sucked hard, poor her. The Witch Queen is a complete bitch. And of course it has to be my man Yami the one who rescued Vanessa (I know she mentioned that in the battle against Vetto, but still). And he didn't give a fuck, as always. I love Yami. Yami x Vanessa, anyone?

Also, thank God the red cat was a thing.


Next episode will be last episode of the arc, wonder what next one will be about.
Dec 25, 2018 9:13 AM
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9timesOutof10 said:
Her power isn’t all that op when you realize all the other op abilities in this series.


Are you talking about vanessa? If yes, then you’re wrong. Her powers allows her to literally alter and change a reality. Basically probabilit/reality manipulation. Currently in the manga, her ability is legit the key to fighting the top tiers because her ability basically makes her and her allies invincible
Dec 25, 2018 9:34 AM
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OGAnime said:
9timesOutof10 said:
Her power isn’t all that op when you realize all the other op abilities in this series.


Are you talking about vanessa? If yes, then you’re wrong. Her powers allows her to literally alter and change a reality. Basically probabilit/reality manipulation. Currently in the manga, her ability is legit the key to fighting the top tiers because her ability basically makes her and her allies invincible
All Vanessa’s new ability is good for is stalling, as shown in her two most recent fights in the manga.
Dec 25, 2018 9:43 AM

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So Vanessa got new powers not from the Queen but from her own awakening.

For the moment there I thought that Noelle was a goner.
Dec 25, 2018 9:59 AM
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9timesOutof10 said:
OGAnime said:


Are you talking about vanessa? If yes, then you’re wrong. Her powers allows her to literally alter and change a reality. Basically probabilit/reality manipulation. Currently in the manga, her ability is legit the key to fighting the top tiers because her ability basically makes her and her allies invincible
All Vanessa’s new ability is good for is stalling, as shown in her two most recent fights in the manga.



If she fights alone, I agree. She’ll just stall until she has no more magic. As a team member, she basically makes the team invincible. And with Charmy’s magic combined, she’s basically God that cancels every attack infinitely.
Dec 25, 2018 10:36 AM

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Eh, was expecting her first encounter with Yami to be a bit longer than that, really liked the little montage we got right after that scene tho, showed a lot from her past woth the bulls with just a few still scenes (she was already taking her clothes off at a very young age too).
Dec 25, 2018 10:39 AM

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Great episode! Loved Vanessa’s flashback.
Dec 25, 2018 11:05 AM
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This ability is so sick!! I love this cat already
Dec 25, 2018 12:44 PM

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Viz said:
Solid episode, I'm surprised that it follows faithfully to the manga.


Also for manga readers, noticed the cameo? ;) Can't wait for him to appear in the future arc.


sure they did the same thing for Grey, appearing earlier then she should.

But then again I chalk that up to the fact that they probably didn't expect the series to last.
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Dec 25, 2018 2:38 PM

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This anime started as a 6, but it maintained my interest the entire time, and so I kept watching. I've bumped it up to a 7 as of this episode. It has a rough start, but at this point it has much promise.
Dec 25, 2018 4:13 PM

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Great. Back to sub-tier animation... it was an inevitability.
Love the cat though, got another mascot -would've just been this derpy bird otherwise.

In any case, Vanessa's new-found power is rather convenient... there should be some type of nerf associated with it like; uses a lot of magic, or its usage really taxes the user (fatigue, loss of lifespan or something etc.)

Ultimately, it's gotten pretty interesting so, I can't wait for the next episode
Dec 25, 2018 4:41 PM

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I love Yami. Yami x Vanessa, anyone?

Not bad but Charlotte Roselei is better waifu for Yami imo, you'll see more of her soon
Dec 25, 2018 4:47 PM

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Pretty cliché shounen stuff, but I loved Vanessa's cat it's so cute though. It also seems like she has gotten more powerful than the queen of witches.

But I wish sometimes they would slash their nakamas, these shounen protagonists. Wishful thinking though!
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Dec 25, 2018 5:11 PM
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I dare say Vanessa's Fate Kitty is cute AF! And pretty strong too for being a new power.
Dec 25, 2018 5:21 PM

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Wasn't that "cat" supposed to be disappear when slashed by Asta's sword ? Because Asta sword is an anti magic sword. And was that "cat" a magic spirit?
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Dec 25, 2018 5:35 PM
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Is is just me or the art in this episode is so damn good?! Also, that cute fate kitty tho!
Dec 25, 2018 5:52 PM
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Viz said:
Solid episode, I'm surprised that it follows faithfully to the manga.


Also for manga readers, noticed the cameo? ;) Can't wait for him to appear in the future arc.

at what part of the episode was the cameo???
Dec 25, 2018 6:17 PM
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Kish0 said:
Wasn't that "cat" supposed to be disappear when slashed by Asta's sword ? Because Asta sword is an anti magic sword. And was that "cat" a magic spirit?

The cat is almost immune to everything.
But it costs Vanessa a huge amount of mana to sustain (this will be shown in the next few arc)

Basically, if Witch Queen is taking Vanessa seriously and keep on fighting, she can outlast Vanessa's mana reserve and royally fuck these guys.

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at what part of the episode was the cameo???

Some time during Vanessa's flashback.
Dec 25, 2018 6:36 PM
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Vanessa and Kitty 1 Queen 0 The Queen should really stop playing with dolls
Dec 25, 2018 6:42 PM
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Viz said:
Kish0 said:
Wasn't that "cat" supposed to be disappear when slashed by Asta's sword ? Because Asta sword is an anti magic sword. And was that "cat" a magic spirit?

The cat is almost immune to everything.
But it costs Vanessa a huge amount of mana to sustain (this will be shown in the next few arc)

Basically, if Witch Queen is taking Vanessa seriously and keep on fighting, she can outlast Vanessa's mana reserve and royally fuck these guys.

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at what part of the episode was the cameo???

Some time during Vanessa's flashback.


ohhhhhh i see who u talking now. damn u got a good eye
Dec 25, 2018 6:55 PM

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Damn, never thought i would see Noelle or someone else from BB "die".
Vanessa has truly an incredible power!
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Dec 25, 2018 6:56 PM

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Viz said:

The cat is almost immune to everything.
But it costs Vanessa a huge amount of mana to sustain (this will be shown in the next few arc)
Basically, if Witch Queen is taking Vanessa seriously and keep on fighting, she can outlast Vanessa's mana reserve and royally fuck these guys.
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Damn! Thanks for explaining.
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Dec 25, 2018 7:59 PM
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The cat is really cuteeeee...hmm the power to control fate wow, it's like a power of God haha, if you can control fate, it makes you a God I think...
Dec 25, 2018 9:45 PM

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Vanessa's is one of the most interesting ability I've ever seen
Solid episode
Dec 25, 2018 10:16 PM

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When she repeated herself when fate changed I had flashbacks to the ending of Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates.
Dec 25, 2018 10:58 PM
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killuaxgon said:
Great episode again!

They did it, the absolute madlads!


Vanessa is the best girl confirmed

Petito Clover was gold as always.

Viz said:
Solid episode, I'm surprised that it follows faithfully to the manga.


Also for manga readers, noticed the cameo? ;) Can't wait for him to appear in the future arc.

Yes!


What cameo? Which part i missd it
Dec 25, 2018 11:02 PM

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ZdloraH said:
killuaxgon said:
Great episode again!

They did it, the absolute madlads!


Vanessa is the best girl confirmed

Petito Clover was gold as always.


Yes!


What cameo? Which part i missd it


I guess who they meant is Yami
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Dec 25, 2018 11:25 PM
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Kish0 said:
ZdloraH said:


What cameo? Which part i missd it


I guess who they meant is Yami

What are you on about, it's obviously not Yami..

Dec 25, 2018 11:46 PM
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Dormamu, dormamu
Dec 26, 2018 12:22 AM

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does Vanessa have the Reality Stone power?
She's OP!!!
5/5!


Dec 26, 2018 1:13 AM
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Kish0 said:
Wasn't that "cat" supposed to be disappear when slashed by Asta's sword ? Because Asta sword is an anti magic sword.

It splits into two before the sword hits it. In the manga you can see better.
Dec 26, 2018 3:05 AM

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Viz said:

The cat is almost immune to everything.
But it costs Vanessa a huge amount of mana to sustain (this will be shown in the next few arc)


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It splits into two before the sword hits it. In the manga you can see better.


Wow this magic must be one of the OP magic then. Now only Gordon whose magic not yet revealed, I assume he's OP too.

Thx for the explanation.
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Dec 26, 2018 6:21 AM
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a detailed past of vanessa and on how she even escape that cage... and look a dark pink cat appeared... and its the magic of vanessa- the one that can change destiny or fate... that magic sure will be a great one if she can master it... hahaha
Dec 26, 2018 8:32 AM

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ZdloraH said:
killuaxgon said:
Great episode again!

They did it, the absolute madlads!


Vanessa is the best girl confirmed

Petito Clover was gold as always.


Yes!


What cameo? Which part i missd it
It's a manga spoiler for now
Dec 26, 2018 8:57 AM

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terrible. 2 minutes worth somehow stretched out over an entire episode... really dragging this out.
Dec 26, 2018 11:41 PM
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Good episode!

Was painfull to watch Asta being controled like that, and almost killing Noelle!

Finally some flashback and backstory for Vanessa, her past was so sad a lonely, i am glad
that Yami appeared and changed that!

Vanessa's new power is pretty op, that red cat is really awesome, was like easy to beat Witch Queen!
Dec 27, 2018 8:15 AM

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Lmao Vanessa got her stuck in Izanami 😂
Dec 27, 2018 10:53 AM

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Does someone knows how long this new animation will go foward?
Look if you like this new style it's fine, more power to you but just not my cup of tea.
I don't typically read manga so if I get anything right please don't tell me.
Dec 27, 2018 11:13 AM
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At least the quality of the animation improved a little from the previous episode.
Dec 28, 2018 5:18 PM

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damn good episode black clover actually is not that trash anymore...
but i wouldve liked to see that Asta killed one of the Charcaters and then afterwards getting some development threw that
Dec 29, 2018 5:40 AM
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Queen is the worst. Doing nothing to stop the invasion and then try to kill everyone who helps save her "forest".

Hope she dies...
Dec 29, 2018 9:51 AM
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Pretty cliché shounen stuff, but I loved Vanessa's cat it's so cute though. It also seems like she has gotten more powerful than the queen of witches.

But I wish sometimes they would slash their nakamas, these shounen protagonists. Wishful thinking though!
at least its not the protagonist break free from the villain mind control
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