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Dec 14, 2017 10:02 AM
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Ay it's me Ajit Pai and I just came back from strangling net neutrality to death with my bare hands. I just wanna thank Verizon, Donald Trump, and the Republican party for letting me do this. Let's discuss 2018 and how I, er no I mean how WE can ruin the future together.
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Dec 14, 2017 10:10 AM
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Man I love not living in America
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Dec 14, 2017 10:11 AM
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I've never discuss politics on this site ( i am not even from America so this "issue" don't even affect me ) but even i understand how screw up this is ( However it still need the court ruling so there still hope for the people although very slim )
And boy did not expect that bomb threat
podetusDec 14, 2017 10:22 AM
Because we're stupid that we love to have fun
Dec 14, 2017 10:11 AM
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This image is all you need to understand what side you should be on.

Look at how hip and relatable it is. Would you not trust this thing with your life?

I can see you


Dec 14, 2017 10:12 AM
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Are his teeth fake or what?
Dec 14, 2017 10:18 AM
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So will my porn now be slower or what ?
Dec 14, 2017 10:20 AM
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Comic_Sans said:
Man I love not living in America

Don't worry mate they'll come for us next
Dec 14, 2017 10:21 AM
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Kuromii said:
Don't worry mate they'll come for us next
NOOOO SPARE ME LÖFVEN
Nico- said:
@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Dec 14, 2017 10:23 AM
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Rip mal... Rip. Chruchyroll Netflix funimation Hulu anime sites in general rip online gaming remember alt right this is on you
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types.
Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
“Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume
“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

Dec 14, 2017 10:24 AM

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It's says I have to pay to view all of the posts, guys help.

Dec 14, 2017 10:24 AM

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hazarddex said:
anime sites in general

Ehm, legal anime sites in general.
Dec 14, 2017 10:26 AM

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Swagernator said:
hazarddex said:
anime sites in general

Ehm, legal anime sites in general.
illegal sites will get hit the hardest or havint your read that they are incressing policing of the internet as well as axing net neutrality
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types.
Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
“Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume
“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

Dec 14, 2017 10:27 AM

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Interesting considering that the most illegal anime streaming site in the world has twice as much internet traffic as crunchyroll.
Dec 14, 2017 10:27 AM

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hazarddex said:
illegal sites will get hit the hardest or havint your read that they are incressing policing of the internet as well as axing net neutrality

Pff, yeah right, they are welcome to try tho.
Dec 14, 2017 10:27 AM

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Welp goodbye Dish then since I can't afford to pay both that and internet on my bundle anymore
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD"
Dec 14, 2017 10:29 AM

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Roloko said:
Welp goodbye Dish then since I can't afford to pay both that and internet on my bundle anymore


People still watch live tv?
Dec 14, 2017 10:32 AM

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SpadesofAce said:
Roloko said:
Welp goodbye Dish then since I can't afford to pay both that and internet on my bundle anymore


People still watch live tv?


Well its more for my parents since they don't know how to use the internet for shit lol.
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD"
Dec 14, 2017 10:33 AM
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oh how I loathe thee corporate america
Dec 14, 2017 10:38 AM

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This is going to hurt the old-pocketbook
"In the end the World really doesn't need a Superman. Just a Brave one"
Dec 14, 2017 11:00 AM
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My country is a joke, and has been since last november. Nothing new, but still pretty upsetting

maybe it's time I just stop paying for cable..
Dec 14, 2017 11:02 AM

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Comic_Sans said:
Man I love not living in America


I'm sure you're country has it's fair share of problems too. We American are fighting this and all the corruption that's going on in the government. We are an extremely strong nation and we don't stand for bullshit, at least not for long. Did you not hear about the Republican that was NOT voted into the Senate in a state full of Republicans? It was a pretty big deal a few nights ago.
Dec 14, 2017 11:08 AM

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Glad I'm living in another continent, America's having some serious troubles.


“If you live for yourself you’ve only got yourself to blame. So I can’t really blame anyone else and I don’t have any regrets.”

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Dec 14, 2017 11:18 AM

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Ari_the_Lioness said:
I'm sure you're country has it's fair share of problems too. We American are fighting this and all the corruption that's going on in the government. We are an extremely strong nation and we don't stand for bullshit, at least not for long. Did you not hear about the Republican that was NOT voted into the Senate in a state full of Republicans? It was a pretty big deal a few nights ago.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/joke
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Dec 14, 2017 11:20 AM

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Chile was the first on the scene when it made Net neutrality provisions to its General Telecommunications Law in 2010. But Net neutrality opponents, as well as some advocates, are critical of Chile’s blanket application of the principle. On June 1, 2014, Chile put an end to giving big companies “zero-rating” access to their services—a widespread practice in developing countries. Zero-rating refers to large companies, like Facebook, being able to make deals with mobile operators to offer the most basic version of their service without charging customers for data use. The details of these deals are unclear, but big companies may pay mobile operators for the privilege.

While zero-rating may be giving big companies an advantage by exposing more people to their services, Net neutrality advocates claim the practice goes against open Internet principles—giving an equal opportunity to access. Mobile Internet penetration is very low in Chile (only 24.8 percent have mobile broadband subscriptions). By blocking data-free access, Chile prevents its citizens from fully experiencing the usefulness of mobile Internet, and restricts them from previewing it before purchasing data.


http://www.newsweek.com/how-net-neutrality-working-countries-have-it-269632




Please stop appropriating Chilean laws please. You don't deserve net neutrality.


Dec 14, 2017 11:26 AM

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Yeah it's really bad that a that a law that has existed since the beginning of the internet has been repealed. Oh wait.
Dec 14, 2017 11:27 AM
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unregulated internet is internet service providers dream so they can profit more

but i heard its not over yet since net neutrality advocates will take it to the supreme court so expect a TRO (temporary restriction order) soon for this decision
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Dec 14, 2017 11:33 AM

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All this means is that at most there will be less ".com" sites in the future, if I understood the issue correctly.
Dec 14, 2017 11:36 AM

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Yeah it's really bad that a that a law that has existed since the beginning of the internet has been repealed. Oh wait.


It was basically a law that stated the one ISP in your area you can pay for service to can't throttle your speeds in favor of other sites.
Btw, they can already throttle your speeds for sites deemed illegal if they want. It is just I think most US ISPs don't give a flying fuck about Japan's Anime revenue.

US broadband: Still no ISP choice for many, especially at higher speeds


https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/us-broadband-still-no-isp-choice-for-many-especially-at-higher-speeds/
Dec 14, 2017 11:41 AM

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aliquae said:
Glad I'm living in another continent, America's having some serious troubles.

That land of freedom is no more, huh?
Dec 14, 2017 11:46 AM

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Good thing I'm rich. Sure is nice living in the upper 1%.
Dec 14, 2017 11:49 AM

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I dunno anything about net neutrality or whateva but jacksfilms said if it didn't get repealed he would legally change his name to "litfam"

rip
Dec 14, 2017 11:50 AM
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I'm not American, so this doesn't affect me...

Just kidding, I'm actually fucked.
Dec 14, 2017 11:52 AM

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I'll be spending a lot more free time on the PS2 now.
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Dec 14, 2017 11:54 AM

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I don't understand how is possible, USA, a reference of the democratic countries can do this shit without the people opinion.
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Dec 14, 2017 12:06 PM
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Harsel said:
I don't understand how is possible, USA, a reference of the democratic countries can do this shit without the people's opinion.


there are millions of people commenting on preserving net neutrality on the FCC website they say

but the FCC and this devil chairman of theirs made fake comments against net neutrality

Two million identities stolen for fake net neutrality comments
Based on the reports filed with the NY AG's office, some of them are already dead.
https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/14/fake-net-neutrality-comments-stolen-identities/

how fuck up is that lol
Dec 14, 2017 12:34 PM

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Ari_the_Lioness said:
Comic_Sans said:
Man I love not living in America


I'm sure you're country has it's fair share of problems too. We American are fighting this and all the corruption that's going on in the government.

Signing petitions and moaning online don't exactly count as "fighting it" though do they.
Dec 14, 2017 12:43 PM

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Harsel said:
I don't understand how is possible, USA, a reference of the democratic countries can do this shit without the people's opinion.


Politicians either don't understand the internet here or just see dollar signs, it's not like the UK where it's more like they want a nanny state or worse.


Dec 14, 2017 12:46 PM
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Land of the free my foot.
Dec 14, 2017 1:00 PM

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yeah Have you seen Star Wars Episode 3? shit reminds me this scene



the thing is , not only Americans should worry about this , cause once US approve this , don't doubt many countries will follow them and kill net neutrality .

The only thing that makes me feel a bit better is that pirate sites will never die , they won't let it happen , it's our ray of light at this moment cause I don't think "big" companies such as Facebook or Netflix will do a shit about it ...
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Net Neutrality didn't even exist before 2015. Nothing is going to change. Get off Reddit, stop fearmongering, and realize that you aren't going to have to start paying $0.99 per post on MAL or whatever the latest bugman myth is.
Dec 14, 2017 1:04 PM

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Soverign said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
Yeah it's really bad that a that a law that has existed since the beginning of the internet has been repealed. Oh wait.


It was basically a law that stated the one ISP in your area you can pay for service to can't throttle your speeds in favor of other sites.
Btw, they can already throttle your speeds for sites deemed illegal if they want. It is just I think most US ISPs don't give a flying fuck about Japan's Anime revenue.

US broadband: Still no ISP choice for many, especially at higher speeds


https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/us-broadband-still-no-isp-choice-for-many-especially-at-higher-speeds/


My point is that the internet has existed before that law existed. You don't need net neutrality.
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Drunk_Samurai said:
Soverign said:


It was basically a law that stated the one ISP in your area you can pay for service to can't throttle your speeds in favor of other sites.
Btw, they can already throttle your speeds for sites deemed illegal if they want. It is just I think most US ISPs don't give a flying fuck about Japan's Anime revenue.



https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/us-broadband-still-no-isp-choice-for-many-especially-at-higher-speeds/


My point is that the internet has existed before that law existed. You don't need net neutrality.


Yeah, I know. Since I pointed out not many countries even have such laws and if they do, they are even worded differently. Like, the EU is currently in a campaign to charge Facebook and whatnot for allowing free speech. Or UK arresting people for Nazi dog jokes. There is already a social media and ISP monopoly anyways.
Hopefully, if this turns out to be a terrible thing we can reverse it. But end of history and all that jazz you know.

DARPA invented the internet anyways, you all have military industrial complex blood on your hands.
Dec 14, 2017 1:21 PM
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Drunk_Samurai said:

My point is that the internet has existed before that law existed. You don't need net neutrality.


The internet wasn’t broken before 2015 and ISPs don’t block or throttle

TL;DR: It remained unbroken because of constant vigilance, not because ISPs didn’t try

As evidence that Title II-based rules are unnecessary, critics point to the success of the internet before 2015. Leaving aside that, as we noted above, internet access was governed by Title II for a good deal of that period, this argument is true. Of course, it’s only true because of constant vigilance by regulators!

Internet providers have attempted to throttle traffic by type or by user (Comcast in 2007), have imposed arbitrary and secret caps on data (AT&T 2011-2014), hidden fees that had no justification or documentation (Comcast in 2016), and tried to give technical advantages to their own services over those of competitors (AT&T in 2016). These attempts were only revealed in retrospect once they were discovered and lawsuits filed. If the deterrents those lawsuits provided eventually had been part of preemptive rulemaking then these practices would never have been attempted at all.

2015 wasn’t some magic year, either: the FCC and Congress had proposed net neutrality rules going back more than a decade before then. It’s only in 2015 that they made them stick.

Now, even if we were to grant that ISPs had not attempted these things when they clearly did, it would be unreasonable to think that they wouldn’t attempt to in the future. Voluntary agreements not to are hardly a substitute for strong rules against anti-consumer practices known to have been instituted before.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/19/these-are-the-arguments-against-net-neutrality-and-why-theyre-wrong/
Dec 14, 2017 1:27 PM

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America is dead, the internet is now the same as Battlefront II, Pay to Win.
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Dec 14, 2017 1:46 PM

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Drunk_Samurai said:
My point is that the internet has existed before that law existed. You don't need net neutrality.
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Net Neutrality didn't even exist before 2015. Nothing is going to change. Get off Reddit, stop fearmongering, and realize that you aren't going to have to start paying $0.99 per post on MAL or whatever the latest bugman myth is.
I hate these lazy ass responses so much. If nothing is going to change then why is the FCC changing the rules of the internet in the first place?

We didn't need net neutrality back then because ISPs weren't as invasive back then. It's 2017; however, and ISP corporations finally figured out ways to make more money while fucking us in the ass. Net neutrality is an inherent good. There's literally no reason to repeal it unless there was a motive to do so such as charging tiered services and throttling speeds to make a bigger buck from customers. I don't even browse reddit dumbass.

MADISON RIVER: In 2005, North Carolina ISP Madison River Communications blocked the voice-over-internet protocol (VOIP) service Vonage. Vonage filed a complaint with the FCC after receiving a slew of customer complaints. The FCC stepped in to sanction Madison River and prevent further blocking, but it lacks the authority to stop this kind of abuse today.

COMCAST: In 2005, the nation’s largest ISP, Comcast, began secretly blocking peer-to-peer technologies that its customers were using over its network. Users of services like BitTorrent and Gnutella were unable to connect to these services. 2007 investigations from the Associated Press, the Electronic Frontier Foundation and others confirmed that Comcast was indeed blocking or slowing file-sharing applications without disclosing this fact to its customers.

TELUS: In 2005, Canada’s second-largest telecommunications company, Telus, began blocking access to a server that hosted a website supporting a labor strike against the company. Researchers at Harvard and the University of Toronto found that this action resulted in Telus blocking an additional 766 unrelated sites.

AT&T: From 2007–2009, AT&T forced Apple to block Skype and other competing VOIP phone services on the iPhone. The wireless provider wanted to prevent iPhone users from using any application that would allow them to make calls on such “over-the-top” voice services. The Google Voice app received similar treatment from carriers like AT&T when it came on the scene in 2009.

WINDSTREAM: In 2010, Windstream Communications, a DSL provider with more than 1 million customers at the time, copped to hijacking user-search queries made using the Google toolbar within Firefox. Users who believed they had set the browser to the search engine of their choice were redirected to Windstream’s own search portal and results.

MetroPCS: In 2011, MetroPCS, at the time one of the top-five U.S. wireless carriers, announced plans to block streaming video over its 4G network from all sources except YouTube. MetroPCS then threw its weight behind Verizon’s court challenge against the FCC’s 2010 open internet ruling, hoping that rejection of the agency’s authority would allow the company to continue its anti-consumer practices.

PAXFIRE: In 2011, the Electronic Frontier Foundation found that several small ISPs were redirecting search queries via the vendor Paxfire. The ISPs identified in the initial Electronic Frontier Foundation report included Cavalier, Cogent, Frontier, Fuse, DirecPC, RCN and Wide Open West. Paxfire would intercept a person’s search request at Bing and Yahoo and redirect it to another page. By skipping over the search service’s results, the participating ISPs would collect referral fees for delivering users to select websites.

AT&T, SPRINT and VERIZON: From 2011–2013, AT&T, Sprint and Verizon blocked Google Wallet, a mobile-payment system that competed with a similar service called Isis, which all three companies had a stake in developing.

EUROPE: A 2012 report from the Body of European Regulators for Electronic Communications found that violations of Net Neutrality affected at least one in five users in Europe. The report found that blocked or slowed connections to services like VOIP, peer-to-peer technologies, gaming applications and email were commonplace.

VERIZON: In 2012, the FCC caught Verizon Wireless blocking people from using tethering applications on their phones. Verizon had asked Google to remove 11 free tethering applications from the Android marketplace. These applications allowed users to circumvent Verizon’s $20 tethering fee and turn their smartphones into Wi-Fi hot spots. By blocking those applications, Verizon violated a Net Neutrality pledge it made to the FCC as a condition of the 2008 airwaves auction.

AT&T: In 2012, AT&T announced that it would disable the FaceTime video-calling app on its customers’ iPhones unless they subscribed to a more expensive text-and-voice plan. AT&T had one goal in mind: separating customers from more of their money by blocking alternatives to AT&T’s own products.

VERIZON: During oral arguments in Verizon v. FCC in 2013, judges asked whether the phone giant would favor some preferred services, content or sites over others if the court overruled the agency’s existing open internet rules. Verizon counsel Helgi Walker had this to say: “I’m authorized to state from my client today that but for these rules we would be exploring those types of arrangements.” Walker’s admission might have gone unnoticed had she not repeated it on at least five separate occasions during arguments.

Dec 14, 2017 1:48 PM

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Say goodbye to freedom boys.

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C.R.E.A.M., get the money
Dollar dollar bill, y'all
Dec 14, 2017 3:11 PM

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This is awful news. Anyone who thinks this isn't a big deal or don't care because they don't live in the US.

1. You're a fucking idiot.

2. You better believe ISP's around the world will follow suit if this passes and becomes law. You think they're not watching this and already coming up with how to pull it off in their respective countries?

As usual. A Democracy doesn't mean anything when it's corrupted by big corporations and big money politics.

Get ready to pay more, and get ready for your ISP's to tell you what sites you can and can't access, and how fast they'll be if they are.


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Nico- said:
Net Neutrality didn't even exist before 2015. Nothing is going to change. Get off Reddit, stop fearmongering, and realize that you aren't going to have to start paying $0.99 per post on MAL or whatever the latest bugman myth is.


lol fuck off dude, you don't understand the situation at all. Is Ajit Pai paying you to say that?

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Soverign said:


It was basically a law that stated the one ISP in your area you can pay for service to can't throttle your speeds in favor of other sites.
Btw, they can already throttle your speeds for sites deemed illegal if they want. It is just I think most US ISPs don't give a flying fuck about Japan's Anime revenue.



https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/us-broadband-still-no-isp-choice-for-many-especially-at-higher-speeds/


My point is that the internet has existed before that law existed. You don't need net neutrality.


Yes we do you're so fucking ignorant on what will happen now that net neutrality is gone
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Can you hear me laugh from the other side of the ocean, with pain in my heart?
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