| Black Clover currently is being trashed on and I dislike the way it's being trashed on. As the title indicates this is about Black Clover is overhated this will stem into something else that isn't particularly about Black Clover, but about action shounen(a person made how I spelled shounen "Shonen" a big deal last time). Many people I assume know nothing about Japan because of how they're inconsiderate of it which leads me to wanting to say that we shouldn't make everything about us. It's just very arrogant of fans to act like that for a series to be successful or to be good it must follow our standards not aware of Japan's. American Cartoons don't make cartoons for the Japanese (There could be Japanese dubs of those cartoons), but what I am saying is that for a community that talks about culture and how the standards of Japan is different from other countries people seem to ignore that anime produced are possibly put on Japanese Television programming and are aimed at a certain Japanese audience. I don't want to say this means you can't like or dislike and state your feelings about Black Clover or anime in general. This is just giving things some context and perspective about why some anime may be a certain way. I hear people say "The problem with the formula" and always bring up shows that are trashed by a circlejerk, but what if I brought up the possibility that maybe the formula works and we're just too to focused on our own region or country and ignore that a formula just may not work for us or just yourself? Black Clover can be hated or loved by you or anyone who likes or dislikes the series, but the way we are spouting hyperbole like it's the worst thing ever to come to shounen is just immature BS. Black Clover might become the new SAO in terms of being hated. I can guarantee that not many who has watched Black Clover had actually read Black Clover and keep talking about the anime interchangeably with the manga and if you seen someone not specifically or particularly talking about one medium or version then immediately stop listening to that person. The anime and manga are different from each other so far. Also to cap it off I wish by the end of this that no one overreacts when express love or hate for something. People who hate Black Clover act like it's objectively or factually garbage and everyone dislikes it and they are speaking for everyone which will annoy many who don't feel the same or make them uncomfortable just making having a good time harder and thats not a healthy approach to things. incoming comments about how one thinks Black Clover is trash or it's good not actually talking about what the post said because they assumed too fast and not actually read the post going off-topic |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
| idk man, Asta is making me wanna kms every episode. |
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| Black Clover might one day get better but for now it's trash. Also get of the damn va already jeez |
| Dont worry when it gets english dub it would be praised to the heavens. |
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| Nah literally most of us just wanna tear our ears off so that we can be saved from Asta's voice. And the show isn't really terrible, it just feels awfully generic and dated. |
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FruitlessJuice said: its just the typical hate. idk why people dont hate on SoL anime.theyre all the same. I have the feeling that you think that high school romcom and slice of life are the same thing. Could be wrong though |
| I haven't even seen one episode and the MCs voice still makes me cringe. |
Aslt said: Well, some people use the Asta's voice actor's voice as the only argument to call Black Clover terrible, which makes their opinion instantly invalid ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ A totally unbearable voice actor is a valid argument though :D |
Well, I haven't seen it, and most probably won't. But I'm fairly sure it has a plethora of problems, with the MCs voice just being the most prominent one. |
| Just wait until Black Clover gains a decent fanbase, I expect a level of controversy equivalent to SAO |
| @Wasshio You get a friend request for that nice and professional reply of yours. Even though I wasn't defending the anime or agreeing that it's trash I was more or so addressing the hyperbole as in your reply you give your personal feelings which wasn't wanted, but it's fine don't worry as i'm not mad. You giving your personal feelings of the show can help people see that not everyone thinks the same way of the anime. When Black Clover came out my brother and I watched it and the VA wasn't someone I liked hearing and maybe the VA is being told it's ok to scream like that, but I'm not going to pretend that the VA can't improve or something as thats the purpose of criticism to point out flaws in order to improve ourselves as others just do it to shit on something and look better in the process. Black Clover the anime isn't something I am a fan of as I'll admit because of the execution and I LOVEEEEEEEE HOW YOU BRUNG THAT UP!!!!!!!!!! "Execution" I think execution matters and thats why some things for certain people aren't great because instead of it being the concept (Tsundere, The Badass, The Wimpy Protagonist) the way it's executed is very important to whether or not it's properly done for you or for other people. I also agree with you about the hypocrisy as My Hero Academia (One of my current favorite anime) never started out amazing or anything and was doing the same ol tropes and no one really loved MHA until season 2. I think that is a double standard. I don't think they're wrong to say that it being generic is an issue as some people may not love MHA or find it great and they may have seen something like that and aren't as enthusiastic, but the way we treat it....we never allow it to grow. The 3 Episode rule is stupid to me by the way...for alot of reasons and we never really allow series to establish itself and let it become it's own thing anymore. I literally allow every series I watch to do that and what I have a problem with is the execution or the way we get there. The reason I brought up the audiences is because I want people to understand that Anime such as these isn't geared towards us and that stating all these things about it is just immature in my opinion. Anime like this is geared torwards boys in Japan and possibly broadcast on Japanese Television and maybe the Shounen formula works for Japan in this regard as Japan literally has different standards. There is a reason why American Dubs are Different From Japanese...it's because American Dubs change it to follow and adhere to our standards than the Japanese because it's being broadcasted here. Japanese Dubs and anime are produced mostly for Japanese Audiences and maybe so are Shounen Manga. Saying it's the problem of Shounen in a way that is killing it because some of us may not like it or authors or productions not following our standards is so god damn arrogant. |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
| Well some people thinks hating Black Clover is somekind of cool trends I see. I haven't watch a single episode of it but the hate is really making BC something hot this season. Which could be both a good and bad thing I guess. At least it got more popular thanks to the haters right? lol Maybe I'll check it out just to see what it's all about. Also, advice on BC fans, just ignore those haters and enjoy the anime :D don't waste your energy on them and let them do their job hyping it up! Also if you bothered by the score/rating, it's just MAL score, you can ignore it too lol. |
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| I read it til chapter 30-something , not bad , just average , I don't care if people hate it , just the same shit as always , I don't know why you're complaining about it , by this point , you should know very well how this community works , it's an infinite cycle . |
| i doubt that black clover could even become the new SAO cause theres not much lasting expectations from it therefore not many will feel betrayal. sadly i cant even expect much from it even though i atm kinda enjoy the mcs hyperactive reactions in it but i expect it to fail me soon cause thats how it got with the manga sometimes later. well it doesnt matter if they follow a different formular for this but it gonna deppend on how it will be worked on later but i dont think its gonna work out that well. |
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| I never saw an episode of Black Clover, and can't tell if it's good or bad, but one thing I know for sure about this series, is that I hate MC's voice. |
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| Pacing and asta's voice. That is why it is bad. Also the (already) filler episode 3 and little bit of filler in episode 2 don't help. If you think it is a bit interesting just read the manga. It is far better then the anime is now. |
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dvbx_073 said: Pacing and asta's voice. That is why it is bad. Also the (already) filler episode 3 and little bit of filler in episode 2 don't help. If you think it is a bit interesting just read the manga. Read the manga before the anime came out and the manga is just better in my opinion. |
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Wasshio said: Halpher said: @Wasshio You get a friend request for that nice and professional reply of yours. Even though I wasn't defending the anime or agreeing that it's trash I was more or so addressing the hyperbole as in your reply you give your personal feelings which wasn't wanted, but it's fine don't worry as i'm not mad. You giving your personal feelings of the show can help people see that not everyone thinks the same way of the anime. When Black Clover came out my brother and I watched it and the VA wasn't someone I liked hearing and maybe the VA is being told it's ok to scream like that, but I'm not going to pretend that the VA can't improve or something as thats the purpose of criticism to point out flaws in order to improve ourselves as others just do it to shit on something and look better in the process. Black Clover the anime isn't something I am a fan of as I'll admit because of the execution and I LOVEEEEEEEE HOW YOU BRUNG THAT UP!!!!!!!!!! "Execution" I think execution matters and thats why some things for certain people aren't great because instead of it being the concept (Tsundere, The Badass, The Wimpy Protagonist) the way it's executed is very important to whether or not it's properly done for you or for other people. I also agree with you about the hypocrisy as My Hero Academia (One of my current favorite anime) never started out amazing or anything and was doing the same ol tropes and no one really loved MHA until season 2. I think that is a double standard. I don't think they're wrong to say that it being generic is an issue as some people may not love MHA or find it great and they may have seen something like that and aren't as enthusiastic, but the way we treat it....we never allow it to grow. The 3 Episode rule is stupid to me by the way...for alot of reasons and we never really allow series to establish itself and let it become it's own thing anymore. I literally allow every series I watch to do that and what I have a problem with is the execution or the way we get there. The reason I brought up the audiences is because I want people to understand that Anime such as these isn't geared towards us and that stating all these things about it is just immature in my opinion. Anime like this is geared torwards boys in Japan and possibly broadcast on Japanese Television and maybe the Shounen formula works for Japan in this regard as Japan literally has different standards. There is a reason why American Dubs are Different From Japanese...it's because American Dubs change it to follow and adhere to our standards than the Japanese because it's being broadcasted here. Japanese Dubs and anime are produced mostly for Japanese Audiences and maybe so are Shounen Manga. Saying it's the problem of Shounen in a way that is killing it because some of us may not like it or authors or productions not following our standards is so god damn arrogant. Ah, well thank you for that. ^^ Well to respond to some of your points, when it comes to the stuff I said this is only based on my own perception or point of view, as I believe that the series isn't great (as I said, mediocre), but its not something that would be absolutely awful, and if it was the case I wouldn't be bothered continuing it, end of story in a way. I leave it at that and that's probably it. Probably see me complaining a few times but that's really it for the show itself. If a series can be fun or enjoyable to an certain degree or a good chunk of it, I can be open for the rest of the content it will present itself with. Execution is what really matters in the medium mainly because the tropes are stuff that we see very commonly and complaining about said tropes themselves for me its kind of stupid. This might be taken out of my ass, but by that logic, wouldn't people be complaining in real life as well? Common tropes happens for a reason and they're part of the life cycle. In literature though, you have to know how to use these tropes and cliches properly, either it can go in between, bad, or good. Authors have the power to use these tropes and cliches against or in their own favor in the end, so that's up to them. As for Asta's Voice Actor. I said this before but I'll keep it short: Yeah I get the complaint that the voice actor can be annoying with the performance he gives towards the character, but a lot of people are ignoring something: He's NEW. I'm not saying to go and just scrub it off like it's nothing, but rather than being really damn offensive towards him to the point of kicking his ass out of the field, people should give criticism, or wait for him to improve. Whether it be later on in the series, or whatever role he takes later on. I'm pretty sure he's trying to do something as his first legit role in the medium, but of course I think he needs to grow bit by bit. Seiyuus start out bad or mediocre but they can improve over time. If he doesn't improve, that's honestly another different story on the table that can be talked in the future. By the way to point out and I'm not gonna name call anyone, but more often than not when it comes to the VA I haven't seen any criticisms at all for him to improve, it's mostly just negativity and just saying to go and transfer etc. I'm just saying to calm down and give him proper thoughts or things to improve. Not something as negative as "Oh he should quit" etc, especially when I said. He's new. Overall I just think that of course, sure people can still criticize the series but know very well that so far when people are complaining how a series is generic of cliche that can become, as you said, perhaps double standards. Not saying people should stop pointing flaws of course, buuuut. There's just a mix of thought to where more often than not it's not really easy to understand them. Then again, its the anime community. I'm sure there's a lot of people that dislikes it for the right reasons instead of... well, just being a mindless hate. I guess. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ All that I agree with and your last part to where "It is the anime community" it's unfortunate as always. My last thing is that hopefully people don't try to force Shounen to pander to them or be over-dramatic and say Shounen is dying or Black Clover is the epitome of the issues with Shounen because it's arrogant. I want to do a reverse with United States and Japan. Imagine the Japanese watching Action Cartoons and loving them and then after a while they see some bad action cartoons or comics or anything in reading form to go on the internet and shit on it and call it bad and state the rules these comics or action cartoons should follow to not become unsuccessful and compare it to other shows that lost in popularity or something to them while in the US these cartoons or comics are heavily successful and make bank in the box office as their formula has shown to work while the Japanese say this formula needs to change because they don't like it. The reason I say that these anime being intended for Japanese Audiences isn't to excuse it or negate criticism, but to give it some perspective and tell people that they need to understand the situation a little more. How do we know that these action shounen aren't on Television Programs that are mainly for kids like ones in the US like Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon? Them trying to change shounen is trying to change Bob The Builder and make it more adult instead of going to watch Avatar The Last Airbender or Rick or Morty instead which is more intended for them. Plus people are complaining about troupes when they are watching something that will likely have the same tropes...if they don't like these tropes or ones associated with the type then watch something different. There are many anime out there as literally keeping yourself in a box and then complaining theres nothing else in the box except the same ol stuff is really counter-productive. People like you and me don't care for the tropes so we have no problem watching Action Shounen shows and if we dislike something it's because of the execution and not because of the things that define it. Many watch Anime illegally, but want these creators to adhere to their standards when literally anime is not always aired for American Audiences and our standards are heavily different. When we want Shounen to be more for us it's going against the point. Noice said: Majority of people who hate on black clover loved Naruto as kids. Now that they've grown up they just find these new characters annoying when in fact they're just as annoying as their childhood favorites were. EXACTLY! Naruto was annoying as shit and guess what? Those who loved Naruto actually loved it when they were kids and grew up with it. Now to be fair though many were introduced to the dub where the VA wasn't probably annoying to them like Black Clover's MC Asta. I think we all grow up and change as people. I also hate how people say "You must be 10 to think a show is great" when the show they referring to are for kids as literally THATS THE POINT! IT'S SUPPOSED TO APPEAL TO KIDS! Many of us were introduced to anime from shows like Naruto (I was introduced by shows like Yu Yu Hakasho) and they liked some things about it that they kept with them as they grew. 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FruitlessJuice said: could pretty much say the same thing about all shounen battle anime ¯\_(ツ)_/¯its just the typical hate. idk why people dont hate on SoL anime.theyre all the same. |
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| I've seen only 1 episode, but hear me out man. It's the MC's voice. MC's voice even makes my dog scared. I'm going to watch it again and give to ep 25 sinces it's a battle shounen but his voice man. His R's are just too much. Also I enjoyed Bleach, Naruto, Fairy Tail, One Piece, Hero Academia ect. I'll probably enjoy this but that voice. lmao |
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| a black clover discussion and Kuma is not here? this is a miracle |
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| When it comes to Black Clover, the majority of the people don't like it for many reasons, I can see why they don't like it, but I think Black Clover is okay, but not the best. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who isn't bothered by Asta's voice though. XD |
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| Hey, I actually read that. As someone who doesn't hate Black Clover and does not hate Asta's voice, it's still not good though. But it's enjoyable for me, I don't let my opinion me crushed by others. And I make conversations around BC easily without making any hate comments about it. All is in the execution. I am not interested in reading the manga, so I'll just stick with the anime. That said, time to watch the new episode later. |
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SanOro said: a black clover discussion and Kuma is not here? this is a miracle MADA DAAA!!!! DevonConners said: Black Cover is starting to be considered trash by japanese shounen standards as well. The reason people hate it heavily is because of how little authenticity it seems to have. While already being a shounen series, it can feel formulaic to a fault. The reason black cover and a series like My Hero Academia receive such different reactions is, imo, because of how little black cover seems to be trying to set it apart from any other series. It's a naruto copy cat to the fullest. BUT, just being a naruto copy-cat isn't what makes it fall short. It's how uncaring it seems to be that it is a naruto copy. MHA, although definitely not shying away from any and every shounen trope, seems like it is trying to at least be its own show and MAKE it's own moments/themes/stories.. It hits the shounen stride and is at least FEELS fresh, while being an engaging battle centric story. From what I've seen from BC, it's dragging its feet trying to re-create every other "cool shounen moment" and fans now have had enough really good shounen to get really pissed when it seems like creators aren't putting in effort and are trying to pull a fast one on you for a buck. they are not much different, especially in the beginning, maybe since i just finishing ratman which mcuh more fresh than MHA ever been back than (wait, ironicaly their end and start date fit, there maybe some corelation there)... and HERO also overused theme... i don't said early MHA bad by any means, but i don't see it's much different from BC either... ______________________________ OT: Haters going hate... let them be.... not like it influence any bit of enjoyment i get from the series... i simply like discussion, but i don't expect much out of it... |
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| I didn't read all of that, but yes it is overhated. It reminds me of Fairy Tail, which means it will go downhill pretty fast and pretty hard. |
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Ericonator said: This lmao, at least with the Manga, I didn't have to hear him scream every 20 seconds..ughidk man, Asta is making me wanna kms every episode. If not for that; although pretty generic; I would at least enjoy it more if he screamed less since the show itself isn't too bad. I think... |
| Are you really gonna stand there a say it's overhated when you can't point out the positives of what's good about it, I'm not even saying you op have to like it, but what exactly is it bringing to the anime spotlit that is remotely good, and I'm talking about the anime. The most postive praise I've heard about it from people I trust is that it's a decent manga and that it's just a punchy quick pace romp. The anime doesn't even slightly convey this because Studio Pierrot is a bunch of fucking hacks. You can't say BC will be SAO because people liked SAO at first and the premise was relatively fresh. Nobody liked BC and any of the mains since episode 1. Case and point. |
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Stripesu said: Are you really gonna stand there a say it's overhated when you can't point out the positives of what's good about it, I'm not even saying you op have to like it, but what exactly is it bringing to the anime spotlit that is remotely good, and I'm talking about the anime. The most postive praise I've heard about it from people I trust is that it's a decent manga and that it's just a punchy quick pace romp. The anime doesn't even slightly convey this because Studio Pierrot is a bunch of fucking hacks. You can't say BC will be SAO because people liked SAO at first and the premise was relatively fresh. Nobody liked BC and any of the mains since episode 1. Case and point. Are you really going to stand there and give me that comment when I wasn't exactly defending the show in terms of quality? Did you read? I say "Did you read" to any person that gives me a stupid reply that is irrelevant to the point of the post because what people like you are doing is making this about something completely different and misrepresenting what this is even about. Also I thought your reasoning for why Black Clover can't be like SAO was entirely dumbfounded as you seemingly ignored the comparison or what the comparison even was. I don't care if people liked SAO's premise or anything like that as that is irrelevant as the amount of hate and hating a show to the magnitude such as one like SAO is the comparison as Black Clover will become the new punching bag by snobby, jackasses for probably a year or two? Just like any other "bad" show and I put quotations because it's completely subjective is that everyone exaggerates and becomes over-dramatic about it. People make absurd statements which people eat up because it panders to their feelings about the show or makes them feel validated or makes them feel like they made the correct judgement. I have not said anyone who hated Black Clover is wrong or unjustified, but I said this is a overreaction. Also the discussions started by Black Clover regarding to Action Shounen or Shounen in general depending on what the topic is about is literally stupid as people again are making an issue bigger than it really is. I remember in one other post of mine I stated that people love to say Bleach failed because it was bad, but I argue that is bullshit as shows that everyone seems to hate grow in popularity and are successful so this anime Black Clover is a top title in Weekly Shounen Jump seemingly (Not sure as people's rankings do have errors in them), but yet we want to be excessively arrogant about it as if our opinions hold so much power. Anyway I found your reply to my post to be incredibly ignorant and if you give one like that again all you have to know is I won't even give it the time of the day. DevonConners said: Black Cover is starting to be considered trash by japanese shounen standards as well. The reason people hate it heavily is because of how little authenticity it seems to have. While already being a shounen series, it can feel formulaic to a fault. The reason black cover and a series like My Hero Academia receive such different reactions is, imo, because of how little black cover seems to be trying to set it apart from any other series. It's a naruto copy cat to the fullest. BUT, just being a naruto copy-cat isn't what makes it fall short. It's how uncaring it seems to be that it is a naruto copy. MHA, although definitely not shying away from any and every shounen trope, seems like it is trying to at least be its own show and MAKE it's own moments/themes/stories.. It hits the shounen stride and is at least FEELS fresh, while being an engaging battle centric story. From what I've seen from BC, it's dragging its feet trying to re-create every other "cool shounen moment" and fans now have had enough really good shounen to get really pissed when it seems like creators aren't putting in effort and are trying to pull a fast one on you for a buck. Dude....what do you mean? When you say it's starting to be trash by Japanese Shounen Standards it's as if I'm interpreting that as if people in Japan like "A Majority" or some kind think Black Clover is trash. I don't know why you're explaining to me why people hate Black Clover...seriously? I hate repeating myself....it's like only times people read is when it's a reply to them. I can understand why people hate Black Clover...not really the issue. Zelev said: I didn't read all of that, but yes it is overhated. It reminds me of Fairy Tail, which means it will go downhill pretty fast and pretty hard. In what regard is it like Fairy Tail? Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
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| So I went ahead and watch the first episode...and... I must say it's.......... the first time I had the urge to cover my ears when hearing someone scream in anime lmao. I mean, seriously guys Asta's scream was something else haha. However, beside his voice, I didn't find it too bad??? Like, it's just your generic battle shounen???? Also I love the settings and the slightly bleak athmosphere. I only watched the first ep though. Seems like Asta had hidden power or something (nothing new here). All in all, as a fan of battle shounen, I think it's not that bad :/ (aside from Asta's voice lol). Some people just exaggerating. Making Black Clover the perfect chance to bash battle shounen anime everyone hate in the first place, and so the hate blow out of proportion now. Even though it's just your regular battle shounen. Some battle shounen haters find this common hating on Asta's voice a perfect chance to bash Black Clover and battle shounen in general. I think. Haha |
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Halpher said: Zelev said: I didn't read all of that, but yes it is overhated. It reminds me of Fairy Tail, which means it will go downhill pretty fast and pretty hard. In what regard is it like Fairy Tail? Magic. Cliche characters. "The power of believing." |
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| If i say i prefer Black Clover to One Piece, i will be hated or not ? :x It's just, i loved Fairy Until until like the 100 last chapters where seriously, it's was bad. I like the art in Black Clover, the female characters (wait for Sister Lion ... XD) and the pace ... I'm not really caring about others opinions but in same time, i want to read them ... Just to know if it's a basic excuse (like someone creating a new account with 0 messages juste to wrote ill about a anime ...) or a real argument. |
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| maybe because like nothing happen in each episode. let me say in ep 7. letter scenes at church was pointless imo (i dont read manga). almost 1/3 episode gone for nothing. and they still put same prologue over and over each episode. just cant believe i need to wait for 1 week for an episode like this tbh i like to see asta development |
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Halpher said: Black Clover currently is being trashed on and I dislike the way it's being trashed on. As the title indicates this is about Black Clover is overhated this will stem into something else that isn't particularly about Black Clover, but about action shounen(a person made how I spelled shounen "Shonen" a big deal last time). Many people I assume know nothing about Japan because of how they're inconsiderate of it which leads me to wanting to say that we shouldn't make everything about us. It's just very arrogant of fans to act like that for a series to be successful or to be good it must follow our standards not aware of Japan's. American Cartoons don't make cartoons for the Japanese (There could be Japanese dubs of those cartoons), but what I am saying is that for a community that talks about culture and how the standards of Japan is different from other countries people seem to ignore that anime produced are possibly put on Japanese Television programming and are aimed at a certain Japanese audience. I don't want to say this means you can't like or dislike and state your feelings about Black Clover or anime in general. This is just giving things some context and perspective about why some anime may be a certain way. I hear people say "The problem with the formula" and always bring up shows that are trashed by a circlejerk, but what if I brought up the possibility that maybe the formula works and we're just too to focused on our own region or country and ignore that a formula just may not work for us or just yourself? Black Clover can be hated or loved by you or anyone who likes or dislikes the series, but the way we are spouting hyperbole like it's the worst thing ever to come to shounen is just immature BS. Black Clover might become the new SAO in terms of being hated. I can guarantee that not many who has watched Black Clover had actually read Black Clover and keep talking about the anime interchangeably with the manga and if you seen someone not specifically or particularly talking about one medium or version then immediately stop listening to that person. The anime and manga are different from each other so far. Also to cap it off I wish by the end of this that no one overreacts when express love or hate for something. People who hate Black Clover act like it's objectively or factually garbage and everyone dislikes it and they are speaking for everyone which will annoy many who don't feel the same or make them uncomfortable just making having a good time harder and thats not a healthy approach to things. incoming comments about how one thinks Black Clover is trash or it's good not actually talking about what the post said because they assumed too fast and not actually read the post going off-topic No, Black Clover is overhyped. 1) The score is not bad (6 means fine) 2) The first episodes are so low and bad that i don't blame the people that don't like it. 3) Much filler so early. 4) The magic type of shounen is overused (we have Fairy Tail) 5) Asta is annoying (with or not that voice) 6) Boring comedy. 7) The manga is just rushed and with a lot of plot holes. Only difference is that is that the manga have better looking design than the anime. So "the manga is better than the anime" is not so true in everything besides the design. 8) More filler! |
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